Re: CUPS test page prints but nothing else can print

Chris Green wrote: > I have just [re]installed an HP Laserjet Pro M15w printer on my T470 > laptop which runs Debian 12. > > The CUPS test page prints succesfully but nothing else seems able to > print. The CUPS Print Status window shows the job for a few seconds > but then

Running containers with systemd-nspawn works, but machinectl fails

before debian 12) and I've been advised to look into machineclt and systemd-nspawn. I have absolutely no experience in running containers, systemd or otherwise, and I'm not sure how this all works with nspawn, but I created a symlink to the location of the cloned server inside of /var/li

CUPS test page prints but nothing else can print

I have just [re]installed an HP Laserjet Pro M15w printer on my T470 laptop which runs Debian 12. The CUPS test page prints succesfully but nothing else seems able to print. The CUPS Print Status window shows the job for a few seconds but then it flashes the red cross indicating an error and the

Re: DokuWiki but in Markdown

On Thu Jan 23, 2025 at 12:43 PM GMT, Nicolas George wrote: https://ikiwiki.info/ Very interesting. It seems it only fails for the last point. But maybe it can be added easily, after all buttons like that run on client-side. That would be nice. Somebody once spent a lot of time integrating

Re: Backports (bookworm), upgrade to all x for kernel 6.12.x, but not upgrade to 6.13

On 1/23/25 00:14, didier gaumet wrote: Le 22/01/2025 à 23:41, Marco Möller a écrit : On 1/22/25 23:23, didier gaumet wrote: Debian provides realtime kernels in its repositories. For an AMD64 PC and Debian 12 Bookworm (without backports), the last LTS realtime kernel package is: linux-image-6.

Re: DokuWiki but in Markdown

On 2025-01-22, Dan Ritter wrote: > Chris Green wrote: >> Does this help any? RestructuredText is more like MarkDown than >> Dokuwiki markup is, I think. >> >> It was a very simple plugin to write, you might find it easy to copy >> and change to work with MarkDown. Is there a simple single exe

Re: DokuWiki but in Markdown

Jonathan Dowland (12025-01-23): > It might be helpful to others for you to spell out the facets of DokuWiki > you find most important. Good point. I might be forgetting something, but as is: - No need for database server. - Passive: the web server runs the site when it is accessed. I c

Re: DokuWiki but in Markdown

On Wed Jan 22, 2025 at 4:43 PM GMT, Nicolas George wrote: Do you know if there is a wiki similar to DokuWiki but that uses Markdown as a syntax, not a custom one nobody else uses, packaged in Debian? Bonus points if it can use Git to manage its texts. It might be helpful to others for you to

Re: Backports (bookworm), upgrade to all x for kernel 6.12.x, but not upgrade to 6.13

Le 22/01/2025 à 23:41, Marco Möller a écrit : On 1/22/25 23:23, didier gaumet wrote: Debian provides realtime kernels in its repositories. For an AMD64 PC and Debian 12 Bookworm (without backports), the last LTS realtime kernel package is: linux-image-6.1.0-29-rt-amd64 Do I understand correc

Re: DokuWiki but in Markdown

3. Extensible - There are extensions to add Markdown syntax - >https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Markdown With all the same drawbacks as the extensions that bring Markdown to DokuWiki. > If markdown is not a hard requirement If Markdown were not a hard requirement in “DokuWiki but in Ma

Re: Backports (bookworm), upgrade to all x for kernel 6.12.x, but not upgrade to 6.13

On 1/22/25 23:12, Michael Stone wrote: On Wed, Jan 22, 2025 at 11:07:57PM +0100, Marco Möller wrote: You mean, linux-image-amd64 in bookworm-backports, which currently draws in  linux-image-6.12.9+bpo-amd64 (= 6.12.9-1~bpo12+1), can be expected to NOT draw in some 6.13 like 6.13~rc7+1~exp1 curr

Re: Backports (bookworm), upgrade to all x for kernel 6.12.x, but not upgrade to 6.13

On 1/22/25 23:23, didier gaumet wrote: Debian provides realtime kernels in its repositories. For an AMD64 PC and Debian 12 Bookworm (without backports), the last LTS realtime kernel package is: linux-image-6.1.0-29-rt-amd64 Do I understand correctly, that the rt-kernels like the one you ment

Re: Backports (bookworm), upgrade to all x for kernel 6.12.x, but not upgrade to 6.13

Le 22/01/2025 à 23:23, didier gaumet a écrit : [...) DAW usage and I don not think he was not using backports) [...) I did not take time to read myself before posting, sorry: "I do not think he was using backports" is more correct ;-)

Re: Backports (bookworm), upgrade to all x for kernel 6.12.x, but not upgrade to 6.13

od results. What seems to be efficient if you work with more than a few instruments/tracks, is, yes, a realtime kernel Debian standard (by default) kernel is not realtime, but Debian provides realtime kernels in its repositories. For an AMD64 PC and Debian 12 Bookworm (without backports), th

Re: Backports (bookworm), upgrade to all x for kernel 6.12.x, but not upgrade to 6.13

On Wed, Jan 22, 2025 at 11:07:57PM +0100, Marco Möller wrote: You mean, linux-image-amd64 in bookworm-backports, which currently draws in linux-image-6.12.9+bpo-amd64 (= 6.12.9-1~bpo12+1), can be expected to NOT draw in some 6.13 like 6.13~rc7+1~exp1 currently already having appeared in the ex

Re: Backports (bookworm), upgrade to all x for kernel 6.12.x, but not upgrade to 6.13

On 1/22/25 22:32, Michael Stone wrote: I think the problem here is a misunderstanding of how backports work: they're not "the latest kernel", they're "the latest kernel from debian testing". You're not going to see a kernel in backports that's not going to be in trixie until after the trixie re

Re: DokuWiki but in Markdown

On 22/01/2025 16:43, Nicolas George wrote: Hi. Do you know if there is a wiki similar to DokuWiki but that uses Markdown as a syntax, not a custom one nobody else uses, packaged in Debian? Bonus points if it can use Git to manage its texts. I found gitit, that looks interesting, but I have not

Re: DokuWiki but in Markdown

yntax.". Yes, that is the issue. > I don't think you're going to find what you want somehow! :-) As a DokuWiki plugin, probably, almost certainly, not. As a Debian package, probably not. If it existed, odds are I would have found it without having to ask here. But as a non-pac

Re: Backports (bookworm), upgrade to all x for kernel 6.12.x, but not upgrade to 6.13

On Wed, Jan 22, 2025 at 09:48:24PM +0100, Marco Möller wrote: Well, I thought that some easy receipt would pop up as an answer to my question on how to achieve such automatic upgrades. As this did not happen I conclude that the wished procedure is not so common and not readily worked out by now

Re: Backports (bookworm), upgrade to all x for kernel 6.12.x, but not upgrade to 6.13

uld foresee that KDE in Trixie stabilizes and would not undergo major changes no more, than I would consider to maybe right away install Trixie now, which to my knowledge is expected to become delivered with kernel 6.12, and also coming with up-to-date pipewire etc. . But my observations do not point to

Re: DokuWiki but in Markdown

will recognise it and treat the whole file as RestructuredText, no > > need for any Dokuwiki markup at all within the text. > > > > The plugin is available from the Dokuwiki site:- > > > > https://www.dokuwiki.org/plugin:rst > > > > It says it

Re: DokuWiki but in Markdown (preferable with git backend)

ki, I had not really thought about it in depth and I did not really want a wiki. I cannot really blame you, so many people posting here come asking for X when it is really Z they need. But in the future, I suggest you keep this kind of assumption for cases where you have strong clues that it is the case or for when some time has passed and no satisfactory answer was given. Regards, -- Nicolas George

Re: DokuWiki but in Markdown (preferable with git backend)

SSG, Static Site Generators. Example given: Zola ( https://getzola.org ). > > > > For the more wiki experience `zola serve` > > ( https://www.getzola.org/documentation/getting-started/cli-usage/ ) > > So webbrowser in one window and your favorite text editor in another wi

Re: DokuWiki but in Markdown

hole file as RestructuredText, no > need for any Dokuwiki markup at all within the text. > > The plugin is available from the Dokuwiki site:- > > https://www.dokuwiki.org/plugin:rst > > It says it's not been updated in more than 2 years which is true but I > think it still works

Re: DokuWiki but in Markdown (preferable with git backend)

itor in another window. I might be wrong, but it does not look remotely like a wiki. Would you explain? -- Nicolas George

Re: DokuWiki but in Markdown

Dan Ritter (12025-01-22): > Would the dokuwiki plugin to accept Markdown work for you? Sorry, I wanted to say it in my first mail but forgot before hitting the :wq keys. Tried one, does not work. Read the docs, the other are worse. The plugins slap Markdown on top of the DokuWiki syntax,

Re: DokuWiki but in Markdown

Chris Green wrote: > Does this help any? RestructuredText is more like MarkDown than > Dokuwiki markup is, I think. > > It was a very simple plugin to write, you might find it easy to copy > and change to work with MarkDown. Is there a simple single executable > program to convert MarkDown to

Re: DokuWiki but in Markdown

Nicolas George wrote: > Hi. > > Do you know if there is a wiki similar to DokuWiki but that uses > Markdown as a syntax, not a custom one nobody else uses, packaged in > Debian? Bonus points if it can use Git to manage its texts. > > I found gitit, that looks interesting, b

Re: DokuWiki but in Markdown

Nicolas George wrote: > Hi. > > Do you know if there is a wiki similar to DokuWiki but that uses > Markdown as a syntax, not a custom one nobody else uses, packaged in > Debian? Bonus points if it can use Git to manage its texts. Would the dokuwiki plugin to accept Markdown work for you? -dsr-

Re: DokuWiki but in Markdown (preferable with git backend)

On Wed, Jan 22, 2025 at 05:43:44PM +0100, Nicolas George wrote: > Hi. > > Do you know if there is a wiki similar to DokuWiki but that uses > Markdown as a syntax, not a custom one nobody else uses, packaged in > Debian? Bonus points if it can use Git to manage its texts. > >

DokuWiki but in Markdown

Hi. Do you know if there is a wiki similar to DokuWiki but that uses Markdown as a syntax, not a custom one nobody else uses, packaged in Debian? Bonus points if it can use Git to manage its texts. I found gitit, that looks interesting, but I have not found a public sandbox on the web to see the

Re: Backports (bookworm), upgrade to all x for kernel 6.12.x, but not upgrade to 6.13

On Wed, Jan 22, 2025 at 01:00:49AM +0100, Marco Möller wrote: > On 1/22/25 00:10, George at Clug wrote: > > I apologise, but I do not understand what it is you want to achieve or what > > it is that you are asking. > > > > Can you please give more explanation?

Re: Backports (bookworm), upgrade to all x for kernel 6.12.x, but not upgrade to 6.13

On 22/01/2025 03:17, Marco Möller wrote: Could you please share with me, or point me to, a howto or receipt for applying all upgrades to future kernel 6.12.x versions to appear in Bookworm Backports when doing "apt update && apt upgrade", but to not leave the 6.12 (upstream L

Re: Backports (bookworm), upgrade to all x for kernel 6.12.x, but not upgrade to 6.13

On Wed, Jan 22, 2025 at 01:00:49 +0100, Marco Möller wrote: > On 1/22/25 00:10, George at Clug wrote: > > I apologise, but I do not understand what it is you want to achieve or what > > it is that you are asking. > > > > Can you please give more explanation? > >

Re: Backports (bookworm), upgrade to all x for kernel 6.12.x, but not upgrade to 6.13

On 1/22/25 00:10, George at Clug wrote: I apologise, but I do not understand what it is you want to achieve or what it is that you are asking. Can you please give more explanation? I want to install the currently highest version of kernel 6.12 from bookworm-backports to my Bookworm. Upon

Re: Backports (bookworm), upgrade to all x for kernel 6.12.x, but not upgrade to 6.13

Marco, I apologise, but I do not understand what it is you want to achieve or what it is that you are asking. Can you please give more explanation? You said: "not leave the 6.12 (upstream LTS) branch and not upgrade to some higher kernel version like 6.13 when they would also become avai

Re: Backports (bookworm), upgrade to all x for kernel 6.12.x, but not upgrade to 6.13

t;apt update && apt upgrade", but to not leave the 6.12 (upstream LTS) branch and not upgrade to some higher kernel version like 6.13 when they would also become available in backports? Thanks a lot in advance! Talby. Hi It is very likely that Debian will stick with 6.12 thougho

Re: Backports (bookworm), upgrade to all x for kernel 6.12.x, but not upgrade to 6.13

On Tue, Jan 21, 2025 at 09:17:52PM +0100, Marco Möller wrote: > Hello community! > Could you please share with me, or point me to, a howto or receipt for > applying all upgrades to future kernel 6.12.x versions to appear in Bookworm > Backports when doing "apt update &&

Backports (bookworm), upgrade to all x for kernel 6.12.x, but not upgrade to 6.13

Hello community! Could you please share with me, or point me to, a howto or receipt for applying all upgrades to future kernel 6.12.x versions to appear in Bookworm Backports when doing "apt update && apt upgrade", but to not leave the 6.12 (upstream LTS) branch and not upgr

Re: gdm Bug: 61-gdm.rules sets Wayland to false, but X is not installed, then freezes

On 20 Dec 2024 08:32 +, from soc...@teclab.at: > I filed a bug: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gdm/-/issues/959 > > Not sure if you want/need me to file another bug in the Debian bug system. > > Asking for advice. Generally the recommended way to do it is to file a bug report with the distri

gdm Bug: 61-gdm.rules sets Wayland to false, but X is not installed, then freezes

Dear Debian Users, I filed a bug: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gdm/-/issues/959 Not sure if you want/need me to file another bug in the Debian bug system. Asking for advice. Regards Thomas

Re: PC monitor is freezing, but I can ssh into it and operate okay

On Wed, Dec 11, 2024 at 18:42 wrote: ..l If you think something is actually running and the monitor's in some > power-saving state, you can use "ddccontrol" to change the power-saving > state. Here's how I turn each monitor off and on in turn (in sh): ... Looks pretty hairy ;-D Thanks, ebe, I

Re: PC monitor is freezing, but I can ssh into it and operate okay

to print random web pages (I don't do it > intentionally but I'm sometimes "forced" to as a "honey do" task). If you think something is actually running and the monitor's in some power-saving state, you can use "ddccontrol" to change the power-saving s

Re: PC monitor is freezing, but I can ssh into it and operate okay

metimes hangs when attempting to print random web pages (I don't do it > intentionally but I'm sometimes "forced" to as a "honey do" task). You might consider starting with hardware tests. Run the diagnostics provided by BIOS or UEFI. Then run a memory stress test. If th

Re: PC monitor is freezing, but I can ssh into it and operate okay

to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Wed, Dec 11, 2024 at 04:14:58PM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > > DISPLAY=:0 > > (of course, this will only work if there /is/ an X server running > in the first place :) (of course, if there is no X server running, only the console setting has any meaning.

Re: PC monitor is freezing, but I can ssh into it and operate okay

On Wed, Dec 11, 2024 at 09:01:19AM -0600, Tom Browder wrote: > On Wed, Dec 11, 2024 at 08:21 Tom Browder wrote: > > > On Wed, Dec 11, 2024 at 07:14 Dan Ritter wrote: > > > >> Tom Browder wrote: > > > > ... > > > >> > I can ssh in, reboot, and all is well. Is there any way to completely > >> turn

Re: PC monitor is freezing, but I can ssh into it and operate okay

On Wed, Dec 11, 2024 at 04:14:58PM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Wed, Dec 11, 2024 at 09:01:19AM -0600, Tom Browder wrote: [...] > > unable to open display "" > > This one is because they have to "talk" to the right X server, so they > need the DISPLAY env variable set, to know which

Re: PC monitor is freezing, but I can ssh into it and operate okay

lay 0 Interestingly, all the other commands before AND AFTER the reboot responded: unable to open display "" But I do have my monitor back and working. I'll report back if I get another freeze. I should have reported some of my sys info: Debian 11, running the MATE version. -Tom

Re: PC monitor is freezing, but I can ssh into it and operate okay

On Wed, Dec 11, 2024 at 07:14 Dan Ritter wrote: > Tom Browder wrote: ... > > I can ssh in, reboot, and all is well. Is there any way to completely > turn > > off the screen saver and its timer via system settings? > > There are three things that could be called screen saver ... Thanks, Dan, I

Re: PC monitor is freezing, but I can ssh into it and operate okay

Tom Browder wrote: > I can ssh in, reboot, and all is well. Is there any way to completely turn > off the screen saver and its timer via system settings? There are three things that could be called screen saver settings: - the console blanker is controlled via setterm -blank 0 (t

PC monitor is freezing, but I can ssh into it and operate okay

I can ssh in, reboot, and all is well. Is there any way to completely turn off the screen saver and its timer via system settings? There may be related problems with my newly installed HP printer which sometimes hangs when attempting to print random web pages (I don't do it intentionally bu

Re: If one sets 'Defaults rootpw' in sudoers but no root password is it disaster?

Chris Green wrote: > Dan Ritter wrote: > > Chris Green wrote: > > > I'd like to force a different password from my own password when I do > > > 'sudo -i' to get root privilege. However I'm a bit frightened about > > > what might h

Re: If one sets 'Defaults rootpw' in sudoers but no root password is it disaster?

Dan Ritter wrote: > Chris Green wrote: > > I'd like to force a different password from my own password when I do > > 'sudo -i' to get root privilege. However I'm a bit frightened about > > what might happen if I set 'Defaults rootpw' in the su

Re: If one sets 'Defaults rootpw' in sudoers but no root password is it disaster?

Chris Green wrote: > I'd like to force a different password from my own password when I do > 'sudo -i' to get root privilege. However I'm a bit frightened about > what might happen if I set 'Defaults rootpw' in the sudoers file but > forget to actually c

Re: If one sets 'Defaults rootpw' in sudoers but no root password is it disaster?

I am to tired to test this now - but I guess as prerequisite you should then give the root user a password.  A long time ago I was "providing" root with a password in some Debian or Ubuntu system using 'passwd'. sudo should not cope with an undefined root password, a

If one sets 'Defaults rootpw' in sudoers but no root password is it disaster?

I'd like to force a different password from my own password when I do 'sudo -i' to get root privilege. However I'm a bit frightened about what might happen if I set 'Defaults rootpw' in the sudoers file but forget to actually create a root password. (This is on sy

Re: I/O errors during RAID check but no SMART errors

On 09/10/24 at 21:10, Jochen Spieker wrote: Andy Smith: Hi, On Wed, Oct 09, 2024 at 08:41:38PM +0200, Franco Martelli wrote: Do you know whether MD is clever enough to send an email to root when it fails the device? Or have I to keep an eye on /proc/mdstat? For more than a decade mdadm has s

Re: I/O errors during RAID check but no SMART errors

Andy Smith: > Hi, > > On Wed, Oct 09, 2024 at 08:41:38PM +0200, Franco Martelli wrote: >> Do you know whether MD is clever enough to send an email to root when it >> fails the device? Or have I to keep an eye on /proc/mdstat? > > For more than a decade mdadm has shipped with a service that runs i

Re: I/O errors during RAID check but no SMART errors

Hi, On Wed, Oct 09, 2024 at 08:41:38PM +0200, Franco Martelli wrote: > Do you know whether MD is clever enough to send an email to root when it > fails the device? Or have I to keep an eye on /proc/mdstat? For more than a decade mdadm has shipped with a service that runs in monitor mode to do thi

Re: I/O errors during RAID check but no SMART errors

On 08/10/24 at 20:40, Andy Smith wrote: Hi, On Tue, Oct 08, 2024 at 04:58:46PM +0200, Jochen Spieker wrote: Why is the RAID still considered healthy? At some point I would expect the disk to be kicked from the RAID. This will happen when/if MD can't compensate by reading data from other m

Re: I/O errors during RAID check but no SMART errors

Michael Kjörling: > On 8 Oct 2024 11:29 -0400, from d...@randomstring.org (Dan Ritter): >> >> This looks like a drive which is old and starting to wear out >> but is not there yet. The raw read error rate is starting to >> creep up but isn't at a threshold. > &

Re: I/O errors during RAID check but no SMART errors

0 prio class 3 >>| Oct 06 14:28:09 jigsaw kernel: I/O error, dev sdb, sector 9361284864 op etc. > > Those aren't sequential, or even exhibiting the same interval from one to > the next. Am I misinterpreting the data? No, but the numbers are close to each other and the errors

Re: I/O errors during RAID check but no SMART errors

On 8 Oct 2024 11:29 -0400, from d...@randomstring.org (Dan Ritter): >> The disk has been running continuously for seven years now and I am >> running out of space anyway, so I already ordered a replacement. But I >> do not fully understand what is happening. > > The dr

Re: I/O errors during RAID check but no SMART errors

wrote this song I'm 22 now, but I won't be for long. Time hurries on / and the leaves that are green turn to brown. -- S&G, "Leaves that are Green"

Re: I/O errors during RAID check but no SMART errors

cks end with this: >> >>| Oct 07 10:26:12 jigsaw kernel: md/raid1:md0: sdb1: rescheduling sector >>10198068744 >> >> What does that mean for the other instances of this error? > > I expect you probably have either no TLER value set Thanks a lot, I had never

Re: I/O errors during RAID check but no SMART errors

| Oct 06 14:37:20 jigsaw kernel: I/O error, dev sdb, sector 9400871680 op 0x0:(READ) flags 0x0 phys_seg 160 prio class 3 … and so on. On the second RAID check, the numbers are not the same, but in the same range. > If the disk is a few days away from being replaced, I would not > bother sh

Re: I/O errors during RAID check but no SMART errors

ght? Why > doesn't md mention it? I suspect that the times you saw an error from the SCSI layer but not from MD, were times that the SCSI layer retried and got the data out eventually. When the SCSI layer times out of all its retries it actually resets the drive and then the whole bu

Re: I/O errors during RAID check but no SMART errors

cate the data somewhere > else (probably because it doesn't know what the data should be in the > first place). Yes. > The disk has been running continuously for seven years now and I am > running out of space anyway, so I already ordered a replacement. But I > do not ful

I/O errors during RAID check but no SMART errors

Hey, please forgive me for posting a question that is not Debian-specific, but maybe somebody here can explain this to me. Ten years ago I would have posted to Usenet instead. I have two disks in a RAID-1: | $ cat /proc/mdstat | Personalities : [raid1] [linear] [multipath] [raid0] [raid6

Re: I am currently facing a bug but unsure what is causing it

t down.After > that, I tried to off that button by pressing the button for 6-7 seconds but > after powering on next time, it shows a CMOS error and then laptop gets > started with battery 0%(even if it was charged 100% before). > > Note that I installed Debian 3 days ago.How to rep

I am currently facing a bug but unsure what is causing it

Hello, I have recently installed debian with KDE desktop environment.But occasionally, after doing shut down, the power button of the light stays on and except that,everything looks like the laptop has been shut down.After that, I tried to off that button by pressing the button for 6-7 seconds but

Re: about 10th new install of bullseye BUT its not Bullseye, its bookworm!

On 6/5/24 08:21, gene heskett wrote:> But in asking how to get rid of [orca], the subject is always changed and I always get re-install instructions. Because that is the most practical and correct answer for your situation; especially given the disk access issues. AIUI assist

Re: about 10th new install of bullseye BUT its not Bullseye, its bookworm!

On Wed 05 Jun 2024 at 11:21:04 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: > > I have removed orca by removing its exec bits. But the system then > will not reboot, waiting forever for orca to start. The only recovery > possible is a re-install, which accounts for about the first 23 > installs

Re: about 10th new install of bullseye BUT its not Bullseye, its bookworm!

valent) on each of those packages and see if that clears it. I _know_ this is frustrating as all get out for you but a clear approach, written down so that you can remember where you got to will be very helpful. If all else fails, you can then share it with the list and say "I got to step X

Re: partition reporting full, but not

On Tue 20 Feb 2024 at 17:14:41 (+), debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: > Felix Miata wrote: > > Keith Bainbridge composed on 2024-02-20 17:45 (UTC+1100): > > > > > I just removed 3 snapshots from my daily driver with no change in > > > used space reported by df > > > > df doesn't know how t

Re: partition reporting full, but not

ous > change is free space. That would seem reasonable, as there's not much more to do than note which files the snapshot contains. > I then update/upgrade. The initial attempt told me > 63 upgraded, 3 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. > Need to get 337 MB of archi

Re: partition reporting full, but not

On Wed, Feb 21, 2024 at 12:21:05PM +1100, Keith Bainbridge wrote: > > On 21/2/24 10:47, Felix Miata wrote: > > I didn't think so, which begs the question why OP Keith is using it. :p > > -- > > I read somewhere about 2 years ago, that it automagically de-duped data > when it detected I was copy

Re: partition reporting full, but not

On 21/2/24 10:47, Felix Miata wrote: I didn't think so, which begs the question why OP Keith is using it. :p -- I read somewhere about 2 years ago, that it automagically de-duped data when it detected I was copying the same file to different directories. It's not deliberate,

Re: partition reporting full, but not

Keith Bainbridge composed on 2024-02-21 11:57 (UTC+1100): > Felix Miata wrote: >> A current thread from elsewhere that should be helpful: >> > really-the-solution/172576> >> btrfs filesystem usage / >> snapper li

Re: partition reporting full, but not

On 21/2/24 11:38, Felix Miata wrote: A current thread from elsewhere that should be helpful: btrfs filesystem usage / snapper list btrfs qgroup show / Thanks for the pr

Re: partition reporting full, but not

upgrades wouldn't fail. > I don't know much about btrfs, but what would be really helpful (if > you do, and it seems so) would be for you to fill us in on how to > asses the space used up by old snapshots (what seems to be the main > suspect currently). A current thread fr

Re: partition reporting full, but not

Greg Wooledge composed on 2024-02-20 14:56 (UTC-0500): > On Tue, Feb 20, 2024 at 02:47:26PM -0500, Felix Miata wrote: >> Surely somewhere on debian.org such things must be addressed if Bookworm's >> default >> has also been changed to btrfs. > That has not happened. The default file system is

Re: partition reporting full, but not

On Tue, Feb 20, 2024 at 02:47:26PM -0500, Felix Miata wrote: > Surely somewhere on debian.org such things must be addressed if Bookworm's > default > has also been changed to btrfs. That has not happened. The default file system is still ext4.

Re: partition reporting full, but not

ebian upgrades wouldn't fail. > I don't know much about btrfs, but what would be really helpful (if > you do, and it seems so) would be for you to fill us in on how to > asses the space used up by old snapshots (what seems to be the main > suspect currently). My hands-on ex

Re: partition reporting full, but not

Felix Miata wrote: > Keith Bainbridge composed on 2024-02-20 17:45 (UTC+1100): > > > I just removed 3 snapshots from my daily driver with no change in > > used space reported by df > > df doesn't know how to calculate freespace on btrfs. You need to be > typing > > btrfs filesystem df

Re: partition reporting full, but not

Hi, > when cfdisk reports: > Device Start End Sectors Size Type > /dev/sda2 1785522176 1786245119 722944 353M EFI System > /dev/sda3 1786245120 1933045759 146800640 70G EFI System > I don't understand the 'EFI System' note /dev/sda3 is / The partition type d

Re: partition reporting full, but not

On Tue, Feb 20, 2024 at 09:21:15PM +1100, Keith Bainbridge wrote: > > On 20/2/24 19:38, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] > Tomas, the upgrade failure was earlier than these notes. It has now worked I see. > Sorry, but I don't know how to assess the snapshot space usage. Nor do

Re: partition reporting full, but not

ulate freespace on btrfs. You need to be typing btrfs filesystem df if you have not aliased df to btrfs filesystem df. Still, Keith seems to have a real shortage of file system free space, otherwise Debian upgrades wouldn't fail. I don't know much about btrfs, but what would be

Re: partition reporting full, but not

On 20/2/24 18:42, Felix Miata wrote: btrfs filesystem df OK, so please interpret: >> btrfs filesystem df -h / Data, single: total=32.80GiB, used=31.94GiB System, DUP: total=8.00MiB, used=16.00KiB Metadata, DUP: total=1.50GiB, used=1.10GiB GlobalReserve, single: total=71.69MiB, used=0.00B k

Re: partition reporting full, but not

pace on btrfs. You need to be typing > > btrfs filesystem df > > if you have not aliased df to btrfs filesystem df. Still, Keith seems to have a real shortage of file system free space, otherwise Debian upgrades wouldn't fail. I don't know much about btrfs, but what

Re: partition reporting full, but not

t 337 MB of archives. After this operation, 473 MB of additional disk space will be used. Do you want to continue? [Y/n] But the 3 kernel related packages failed to install a couple of times. When I finally figured I should check space, there was none. I rolled back to prior to the upgrade

Re: partition reporting full, but not

Keith Bainbridge composed on 2024-02-20 17:45 (UTC+1100): > I just removed 3 snapshots from my daily driver with no change in used > space reported by df df doesn't know how to calculate freespace on btrfs. You need to be typing btrfs filesystem df if you have not aliased df to btrfs f

Re: partition reporting full, but not

73 MB of additional disk space will be used. Do you want to continue? [Y/n] But the 3 kernel related packages failed to install a couple of times. When I finally figured I should check space, there was none.   I rolled back to prior to the upgrade, but still no free space. I said sometime in

Re: partition reporting full, but not

On 19/2/24 13:00, Max Nikulin wrote: On 19/02/2024 06:26, Keith Bainbridge wrote: So later yesterday afternoon I created a new snapshot with no obvious change is free space. Effect of snapshots is delayed. When you remove a file that does not belong to any snapshot, some disk space is rec

Re: partition reporting full, but not

David Christensen wrote: > On 2/18/24 19:20, Keith Bainbridge wrote: > > I am convinced that the missing space is used by btrfs snapshot > > process. > > > Perhaps. But, are you re-balancing your btrfs file systems regularly? > > https://manpages.debian.

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ks seems very kinky to me. I am using zfs somewhat in a similar way, but it took me some years to set it up in a good way. Apart from a warning and the usual RTFM, i do not have much to offer. Except maybe for this: Snapshots hold space, they are not like hardlinks. (although one can snaps

Re: partition reporting full, but not

On 2/18/24 19:20, Keith Bainbridge wrote: I am convinced that the missing space is used by btrfs snapshot process. Perhaps. But, are you re-balancing your btrfs file systems regularly? https://manpages.debian.org/bookworm/btrfs-progs/btrfs-balance.8.en.html Doing it by hand was not

Re: partition reporting full, but not

On Mon, Feb 19, 2024 at 02:20:20PM +1100, Keith Bainbridge wrote: [...] > I am convinced that the missing space is used by btrfs snapshot process. But > WHY is the used space reporting on my daily driver LESS than that on the > spare machine 29G vs 35G? The original install was the

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d. Do you want to continue? [Y/n] But the 3 kernel related packages failed to install a couple of times. When I finally figured I should check space, there was none.   I rolled back to prior to the upgrade, but still no free space. I said sometime in this thread that timeshift (and BiT) use hard

Re: partition reporting full, but not

On 19/2/24 13:41, Felix Miata wrote: would be some places to start. Didn't you do your https://btrfs.readthedocs.io/en/latest/btrfs-filesystem.html reading yet? ?_? My eyes have glazed over too often, already. I know I have to get back, but that NEED to do it is making it harder. -

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