Re: possible cllue about this 30 second system freeze

2025-04-14 Thread gene heskett
On 4/14/25 11:51, Pocket wrote: On 4/14/25 11:04 AM, gene heskett wrote: On 4/14/25 09:18, Pocket wrote: On 4/14/25 8:35 AM, gene heskett wrote: But while there is a call to docker on an ipv4 address starting with 172 in the trace output, I don't recall ever setting up docker on this system.

Re: possible cllue about this 30 second system freeze

2025-04-14 Thread gene heskett
On 4/14/25 09:18, Pocket wrote: On 4/14/25 8:35 AM, gene heskett wrote: But while there is a call to docker on an ipv4 address starting with 172 in the trace output, I don't recall ever setting up docker on this system.  So who can help me check to see if its missing and this freeze is the ti

Re: possible cllue about this 30 second system freeze

2025-04-14 Thread gene heskett
On 4/14/25 01:55, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Sun, Apr 13, 2025 at 05:32:29PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: On 4/13/25 14:07, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Sun, Apr 13, 2025 at 12:50:14PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: Hi Gene, I'm probably going to regret this - let's see if I can help you fault-find

Re: possible cllue about this 30 second system freeze

2025-04-13 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sun, Apr 13, 2025 at 05:32:29PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > On 4/13/25 14:07, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 13, 2025 at 12:50:14PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > > > > Hi Gene, > > > > I'm probably going to regret this - let's see if I can help you > > fault-find :) > > > > Question

Re: possible cllue about this 30 second system freeze

2025-04-13 Thread gene heskett
On 4/13/25 14:07, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Sun, Apr 13, 2025 at 12:50:14PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: Hi Gene, I'm probably going to regret this - let's see if I can help you fault-find :) Questions: 1. Which version of Debian is this? Give us the output of /etc/os-release and of uname -a

Re: possible cllue about this 30 second system freeze

2025-04-13 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sun, Apr 13, 2025 at 12:50:14PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: Hi Gene, I'm probably going to regret this - let's see if I can help you fault-find :) Questions: 1. Which version of Debian is this? Give us the output of /etc/os-release and of uname -a on this machine, please. 2. Do you actually

possible cllue about this 30 second system freeze

2025-04-13 Thread gene heskett
Using strace, the freeze corresponds to a poll command for fd33, which appears to be a docker function. In this case the test file is an AppImage, orcaslicer-2.3.0, but any AppImage will work for this. I have quite a few, as its the only way to get the latest and greatest given debians penchant

Re: Happy 30 Years Debian Project

2023-08-17 Thread Javier Barroso
El jue., 17 ago. 2023 23:34, Javier Barroso escribió: > > > El jue., 17 ago. 2023 22:49, Ash Joubert escribió: > >> Happy Birthday Debian! >> >> My open source journey started with Slackware in 1995, then Red Hat from >> 1996, and then Fedora. I first encountered Debian at a new job in 2007, >>

Re: Happy 30 Years Debian Project

2023-08-17 Thread Javier Barroso
El jue., 17 ago. 2023 22:49, Ash Joubert escribió: > Happy Birthday Debian! > > My open source journey started with Slackware in 1995, then Red Hat from > 1996, and then Fedora. I first encountered Debian at a new job in 2007, > and switched my desktop to Debian/sid in 2012. I installed my curren

Re: Happy 30 Years Debian Project

2023-08-17 Thread Ash Joubert
Happy Birthday Debian! My open source journey started with Slackware in 1995, then Red Hat from 1996, and then Fedora. I first encountered Debian at a new job in 2007, and switched my desktop to Debian/sid in 2012. I installed my current Debian/sid desktop in April 2017 and it has been rolling

Re: Happy 30 Years Debian Project

2023-08-17 Thread Roger Price
On Wed, 16 Aug 2023, Luna Jernberg wrote: Happy Birthday 30 years of the Debian Linux Project I consider Debian to be a major intellectual achievement, Collective, but still a major achievement. My first Linux ran on an IBM PS/2 L40 SX laptop with a monochrome display. I had to

Re: Happy 30 Years Debian Project

2023-08-17 Thread songbird
Luna Jernberg wrote: > Happy Birthday 30 years of the Debian Linux Project ... and congrats on surviving and persisting through all that can happen. :) songbird

Re: Happy 30 Years Debian Project

2023-08-17 Thread tomas
On Thu, Aug 17, 2023 at 07:32:10PM +0200, Martin Petersen wrote: > happy birthday Debian ! > > and thanks to all you contributors and nice people in this community. > > i chose debian as a noob after my first experiments w. suse around '98/'99 > and never looked back. best os on the planet and s

Re: Happy 30 Years Debian Project

2023-08-17 Thread Martin Petersen
ation. the whole is indeed greater than the sum of it parts. rip ian <3 On 2023-08-16 13:31, Luna Jernberg wrote: Happy Birthday 30 years of the Debian Linux Project https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2023/08/happy-debian-day-going-30-years-strong/ https://wiki.debian.org/DebianD

Re: Happy 30 Years Debian Project

2023-08-16 Thread Nate Bargmann
Happy anniversary indeed. 30 years for anything is a significant milestone particularly an all, or nearly all, volunteer project that doesn't have a single person who is the benevolent dictator for life but instead has had a number of elected project leaders over that time. This is very mu

Re: Happy 30 Years Debian Project

2023-08-16 Thread Tuco Ramirez
Happy Birthday Debian By the way, thank you all who put any amount of work on Debian. Thank you Ian. On August 16, 2023 11:31:35 AM UTC, Luna Jernberg wrote: >Happy Birthday 30 years of the Debian Linux Project > >https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2023/08/happy-debian-day-going

Re: Happy 30 Years Debian Project

2023-08-16 Thread riveravaldez
Happy birthday to all, oh, you lovely people/community, oh, this lovely OS! <3 ^_^ ^o^ #LongLiveFreeSoftware #CopyLeft

Re: Happy 30 Years Debian Project

2023-08-16 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
On Wed, Aug 16, 2023, 9:38 AM Marco wrote: > Am 16.08.2023 um 15:07:35 Uhr schrieb Thomas Schmitt: > > > > > https://wiki.debian.org/DebianHistory?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=Debian-announcement-1993-pic-by-Ian_Murdock.png > > Rather interesting that people printed out usenet posts back in th

Re: Happy 30 Years Debian Project

2023-08-16 Thread Marco
Am 16.08.2023 um 15:07:35 Uhr schrieb Thomas Schmitt: > > https://wiki.debian.org/DebianHistory?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=Debian-announcement-1993-pic-by-Ian_Murdock.png Rather interesting that people printed out usenet posts back in these days.

Re: Happy 30 Years Debian Project

2023-08-16 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Luna Jernberg wrote: > Happy Birthday 30 years of the Debian Linux Project \o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/ > https://wiki.debian.org/DebianHistory?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=Debian-announcement-1993-pic-by-Ian_Murdock.png Also avai

Happy 30 Years Debian Project

2023-08-16 Thread Luna Jernberg
Happy Birthday 30 years of the Debian Linux Project https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2023/08/happy-debian-day-going-30-years-strong/ https://wiki.debian.org/DebianDay/2023 https://wiki.debian.org/DebianHistory?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=Debian-announcement-1993-pic-by-Ian_Murdock.png

Re: file born 30 seconds after its creation on ext4 - bug?

2022-05-02 Thread tomas
On Mon, May 02, 2022 at 10:04:00AM -0500, David Wright wrote: > I'm not very familiar with files' birth as it's a relatively new > addition to filesystems, particularly how to display it even when > present. So I looked it up, and the ext4 wiki says it's the time > at which the inode is created. I

Re: file born 30 seconds after its creation on ext4 - bug?

2022-05-02 Thread David Wright
On Mon 02 May 2022 at 01:30:08 (+0200), Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2022-04-30 15:19:21 +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > > An explanation of the observed problem would need: > > - a mechanism which delayed the content production of the inode while it > > was already in u

Re: file born 30 seconds after its creation on ext4 - bug?

2022-05-01 Thread tomas
On Mon, May 02, 2022 at 01:10:04AM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2022-04-30 14:06:53 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] > > It sure looks like a bug. But it would be a bug at a spot where one would > > expect that it should have bitten oodles of other people by now, so t

Re: file born 30 seconds after its creation on ext4 - bug?

2022-05-01 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, May 02, 2022 at 01:30:08AM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > I'm wondering whether the data are transferred from the VFS to ext4 > necessarily within the same openat system call or could just be kept > in the VFS as long as they are not needed elsewhere, i.e. the VFS > beha

Re: file born 30 seconds after its creation on ext4 - bug?

2022-05-01 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2022-04-30 15:19:21 +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > An explanation of the observed problem would need: > - a mechanism which delayed the content production of the inode while it > was already in use for open and write, > - or a mechanism which caused ext4 to hide the inode to oth

Re: file born 30 seconds after its creation on ext4 - bug?

2022-05-01 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2022-04-30 14:06:53 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sat, Apr 30, 2022 at 10:33:34AM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > > I understand that Vincent Lefevre suspects these discrepancies to be a bug > > in the ext4 driver. I rather suspect that ext4 is ok and that we observe >

Re: file born 30 seconds after its creation on ext4 - bug?

2022-04-30 Thread Thomas Schmitt
an a lot of weird things. But the subsequent praragraphs clearly concern the RAM-to-disk migration of memory pages which are associated to the filesystem's disk storage. > And the delayed allocation will actually commit the data to disk only after > 30-150 seconds (it is not very clear on t

Re: file born 30 seconds after its creation on ext4 - bug?

2022-04-30 Thread tomas
On Sat, Apr 30, 2022 at 12:31:07PM -, Curt wrote: > On 2022-04-30, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > > > > Indeed. With normal filesystem operations there should be no need to call > > something like sync(2) in order to get a consistent representation of the > > current file

Re: file born 30 seconds after its creation on ext4 - bug?

2022-04-30 Thread Curt
On 2022-04-30, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > > Indeed. With normal filesystem operations there should be no need to call > something like sync(2) in order to get a consistent representation of the > current filesystem state. > What does the following mean, then, in that light: Bec

Re: file born 30 seconds after its creation on ext4 - bug?

2022-04-30 Thread tomas
On Sat, Apr 30, 2022 at 10:33:34AM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > sp...@caiway.net wrote: > > how does one force to refresh this memory with a command? > > to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > What do you mean by "refresh"? What's in the cache is alwa

Re: file born 30 seconds after its creation on ext4 - bug?

2022-04-30 Thread Thomas Schmitt
o need to call something like sync(2) in order to get a consistent representation of the current filesystem state. That's actually the riddle of this thread: The filesystem behavior outside the script and the time stamps look like the file was created 30 seconds after the script began to op

Re: file born 30 seconds after its creation on ext4 - bug?

2022-04-29 Thread tomas
On Fri, Apr 29, 2022 at 09:41:23PM +0200, sp...@caiway.net wrote: > On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 13:45:15 -0400 > > > linux caches file system pages in memory > > how does one force to refresh this memory with a command? What do you mean by "refresh"? What's in the cache is always the "freshest" version:

Re: file born 30 seconds after its creation on ext4 - bug?

2022-04-29 Thread sp...@caiway.net
On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 13:45:15 -0400 > linux caches file system pages in memory how does one force to refresh this memory with a command? Thanks!

Re: file born 30 seconds after its creation on ext4 - bug?

2022-04-29 Thread Marc Auslander
a hole. sync isn't about this. linux caches file system pages in memory - both content and metadata. sync is about forcing the changed pages back to disk, for example before shutting down. It's done automatically - maybe every 30 seconds (I'm not sure about linux on this). But

Re: file born 30 seconds after its creation on ext4 - bug?

2022-04-29 Thread duh
On 4/27/22 11:05 PM, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 10:45:09PM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: Another option might be that your system's time was "reset". This shouldn't happen, but it can happen if your NTP was down, the machine got out-of-sync over time and you restart the NTP se

Re: file born 30 seconds after its creation on ext4 - bug?

2022-04-28 Thread Vincent Lefevre
Hi, On 2022-04-28 11:26:36 +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > and one with > > openat(AT_FDCWD, "….out", O_WRONLY|O_CREAT|O_APPEND, 0666 > > <... openat resumed>) = 3 > > about 30 seconds later. > > Oh. So the script

Re: file born 30 seconds after its creation on ext4 - bug?

2022-04-28 Thread Vincent Lefevre
written back to the actual FS. When I did tail -n 30 mpfrtests.*.out; ll mpfrtests.*.out this had the effect to look at the entries in the current directory. For some reason (a bug occurring under some particular conditions?), the dirty state due to the data written above to the VFS was ignor

Re: file born 30 seconds after its creation on ext4 - bug?

2022-04-28 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > and one with > openat(AT_FDCWD, "….out", O_WRONLY|O_CREAT|O_APPEND, 0666 > <... openat resumed>) = 3 > about 30 seconds later. Oh. So the script was still running when the file finally appeared to lt, tail, and ll ? Is the text s

Re: file born 30 seconds after its creation on ext4 - bug?

2022-04-28 Thread Vincent Lefevre
ventin.lip.ens-lyon.fr.out doesn't appear in the first "lt|head" output). 3. To go back after 14:43:42. And this would not explain the cventin:~/software/mpfr> tail -n 30 mpfrtests.*.out; ll mpfrtests.*.out zsh: no match zsh: no match cventin:~/software/mpfr[1]> tail -n 3

Re: file born 30 seconds after its creation on ext4 - bug?

2022-04-27 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 10:45:09PM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > Another option might be that your system's time was "reset". > This shouldn't happen, but it can happen if your NTP was down, the > machine got out-of-sync over time and you restart the NTP server at > which point it may(!) decide to

Re: file born 30 seconds after its creation on ext4 - bug?

2022-04-27 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2022-04-27 09:26:50 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > Are you able to reproduce the issue at all, even like 1% of the time? In the past 11 years, I may have ran the script (and looked at the output just after that) hundreds or thousands of times; the commands to look at the output have been in my s

Re: file born 30 seconds after its creation on ext4 - bug?

2022-04-27 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 03:11:22PM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > So, perhaps there were no issues with openat, but when reading > the directory, the file could not be found because some internal > structures might have been incomplete. If so, this is a bug at the kernel level, perhaps in the VFS

Re: file born 30 seconds after its creation on ext4 - bug?

2022-04-27 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2022-04-27 11:39:17 +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > If it has indeed to do with the CPU cache then a particular cache would have > delayed its writing to RAM for 30 seconds but would have served its own CPU > with the full results of file system driver and virtual memory activities >

Re: file born 30 seconds after its creation on ext4 - bug?

2022-04-27 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > the issue [...] is probably unlikely to occur again. In this case we will hardly be able to find an explanation. > However, there's also the fact that the birth time was 30 seconds > ahead of the actual file creation, while there was no lock

Re: file born 30 seconds after its creation on ext4 - bug?

2022-04-27 Thread Vincent Lefevre
Hi, On 2022-04-27 09:07:37 +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > i wrote: > > > So if it got created by the script, maybe it was deleted or renamed > > > shortly afterwards and created again 30 seconds later ? > > Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > The script doesn&#x

Re: file born 30 seconds after its creation on ext4 - bug?

2022-04-27 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, i wrote: > > So if it got created by the script, maybe it was deleted or renamed > > shortly afterwards and created again 30 seconds later ? Vincent Lefevre wrote: > The script doesn't do that. The file is created with > echo "* $fqdn ($(${1:-.}/config.gues

Re: file born 30 seconds after its creation on ext4 - bug?

2022-04-26 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2022-04-26 14:18:58 -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > On an ext4 filesystem, I got a file born 30 seconds after its > > actual creation. Is this a bug? > > I doubt it. > Note that a file's atime/mtime/ctime is a property of the file itself, > whereas "appe

Re: file born 30 seconds after its creation on ext4 - bug?

2022-04-26 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2022-04-26 12:47:53 -0500, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 12:37 PM Nicholas Geovanis > wrote: > > > On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 8:45 AM Vincent Lefevre > > wrote: > > > >> On an ext4 filesystem, I got a file born 30 seconds after its

Re: file born 30 seconds after its creation on ext4 - bug?

2022-04-26 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2022-04-26 19:01:26 +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > It looks as if the file indeed does not exist when you inquire it. > So if it got created by the script, maybe it was deleted or renamed > shortly afterwards and created again 30 seconds later ? The script doesn't do that. The f

Re: file born 30 seconds after its creation on ext4 - bug?

2022-04-26 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 12:37 PM Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 8:45 AM Vincent Lefevre > wrote: > >> On an ext4 filesystem, I got a file born 30 seconds after its >> actual creation. Is this a bug? >> > > Only experimentation can really bac

Re: file born 30 seconds after its creation on ext4 - bug?

2022-04-26 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 8:45 AM Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On an ext4 filesystem, I got a file born 30 seconds after its > actual creation. Is this a bug? > Only experimentation can really back me up on this, but consider the following: Every time you use the "|" operator or t

Re: file born 30 seconds after its creation on ext4 - bug?

2022-04-26 Thread Thomas Schmitt
enamed shortly afterwards and created again 30 seconds later ? Consider to inquire the file in the script for birth time and inode number immediately after it was created. Compare these properties with the properties of the file which you see 30 seconds later. Have a nice day :) Thomas

file born 30 seconds after its creation on ext4 - bug?

2022-04-26 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On an ext4 filesystem, I got a file born 30 seconds after its actual creation. Is this a bug? I know that such issues can be observed with NFS, but here this is just a local ext4 filesystem. Here are the details. I started a shell script: cventin:~> ps -p 667828 -o lstart,

Audacity parameter 'phase_shift' out of range [0 - 30]

2022-04-22 Thread davenull
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Re: On line meet up Thursday 17:30

2020-07-23 Thread David Wright
On Thu 23 Jul 2020 at 16:52:48 (+1000), Keith bainbridge wrote: > On 23/7/20 4:23 pm, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > On Ma, 21 iul 20, 17:39:09, Keith bainbridge wrote: > > I hadn't noticed this before, but where does 'the system' get my name > from. Everything I can see here says Keith Bainbridge. Yo

Re: On line meet up Thursday 17:30

2020-07-23 Thread Teemu Likonen
* 2020-07-23T21:47:32+10, David wrote: > $ date --utc --date='23 Jul 2020 17:30 +1000' > Thu 23 Jul 07:30:00 UTC 2020 While we are here let's also say this in more international date and time format ISO 8601: $ date --rfc-3339=seconds --utc --date="2020-07-23 17:30

Re: On line meet up Thursday 17:30

2020-07-23 Thread David
On Thu, 23 Jul 2020 at 17:03, Keith bainbridge wrote: > On 23/7/20 4:23 pm, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > For the future you might want to specify the UTC time instead. > So, UTC 7:30 it is. Hi Keith, That is incomplete information, you need to specify the UTC date also. For your

Re: On line meet up Thursday 17:30

2020-07-23 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 04:45:43PM +1000, Keith bainbridge wrote: > Probably right, but I wasn't sure if UTC adjusted to daylight saving time, > and got a couple of conflicting versions when I searched. It doesn't. If your local time zone does DST, you will notice that your offset from UTC change

Re: On line meet up Thursday 17:30

2020-07-23 Thread tomas
On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 04:52:48PM +1000, Keith bainbridge wrote: > On 23/7/20 4:23 pm, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > >On Ma, 21 iul 20, 17:39:09, Keith bainbridge wrote: > > > I hadn't noticed this before, but where does 'the system' get my > name from. Everything I can see here says Keith Bainbridge.

Re: On line meet up Thursday 17:30

2020-07-23 Thread Keith bainbridge
On 23/7/20 4:23 pm, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Ma, 21 iul 20, 17:39:09, Keith bainbridge wrote: I hadn't noticed this before, but where does 'the system' get my name from. Everything I can see here says Keith Bainbridge. Email client: Thunderbird 79.0b2 (64-bit) - the beta version; on a mult

Re: On line meet up Thursday 17:30

2020-07-23 Thread Keith bainbridge
x27;t sure if UTC adjusted to daylight saving time, and got a couple of conflicting versions when I searched. So, UTC 7:30 it is. -- Keith Bainbridge keithr...@gmail.com 0447 667468

Re: On line meet up Thursday 17:30

2020-07-22 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 21 iul 20, 17:39:09, Keith bainbridge wrote: > > To get the timing right as close as possible, it is 17:40 as I send this > note. For the future you might want to specify the UTC time instead. Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser signature.asc Description:

On line meet up Thursday 17:30

2020-07-22 Thread Keith Bainbridge
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On line meet up Thursday 17:30

2020-07-21 Thread Keith bainbridge
Good evening All I couldn't help notice how many of you suggested a Raspberry Pi as a better alternative to trying to use an old PC, in answer to a recent question. I wondered if some of you would care to join a small user group in regional Australia, whose prime purpose is using single bo

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Re: 30 second wait kernel 3.14.12-1

2014-07-25 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
messages during the wait. If you edit /lib/udev/net.agent and change do_everything > /dev/null 2> /dev/null & to ( do_everything ) > /dev/null 2> /dev/null & is the delay gone? as if by magic, delay gone... how did you find out? The 30 second timeout is a udev internal tim

Re: 30 second wait kernel 3.14.12-1

2014-07-25 Thread Michael Biebl
after >>> that. I get no messages during the wait. >> >> If you edit /lib/udev/net.agent and change >> >> do_everything > /dev/null 2> /dev/null & >> >> to >> >> ( do_everything ) > /dev/null 2> /dev/null & >> >>

Re: 30 second wait kernel 3.14.12-1

2014-07-25 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Michael Biebl wrote: Am 25.07.2014 04:44, schrieb Hugo Vanwoerkom: Anybody venture a guess as to what is happening? I have a 5 second rootdelay specified in the kernel parameter list and this happens after that. I get no messages during the wait. If you edit /lib/udev/net.agent and change do

Re: 30 second wait kernel 3.14.12-1

2014-07-25 Thread Brian
On Fri 25 Jul 2014 at 05:42:38 +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: > Am 25.07.2014 04:44, schrieb Hugo Vanwoerkom: > > > > > Anybody venture a guess as to what is happening? I have a 5 second > > rootdelay specified in the kernel parameter list and this happens after > > that. I get no messages during t

Re: 30 second wait kernel 3.14.12-1

2014-07-24 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 25.07.2014 04:44, schrieb Hugo Vanwoerkom: > > Anybody venture a guess as to what is happening? I have a 5 second > rootdelay specified in the kernel parameter list and this happens after > that. I get no messages during the wait. If you edit /lib/udev/net.agent and change do_everything > /d

30 second wait kernel 3.14.12-1

2014-07-24 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Hi, Running Sid and sysvinit. With the recent kernel upgrade in Sid from 3.14.10-1 to 3.14.12-1 there appeared a 30 second wait in the boot process. It shows up in kernel.log, like so: ... Jul 24 21:02:30 hda5 kernel: [ 11.363107] input: HDA NVidia Front Mic as /devices/pci:00/:00

Re: xscreensaver-command -version is getting called every 30 seconds ?? (sid, xfce4)

2014-01-14 Thread Selim T. Erdogan
Zenaan Harkness, 13.01.2014: > xscreensaver-command -version is getting called every 30 seconds. This > causes my xscreensaver unlock/password dialog window to open up all > the time... > > Any idea how I can find out what's calling this command every 30 seconds? Try runnin

Re: xscreensaver-command -version is getting called every 30 seconds ?? (sid, xfce4)

2014-01-13 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 1/13/14, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 08:55:51PM +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote: >> xscreensaver-command -version is getting called every 30 seconds. This >> causes my xscreensaver unlock/password dialog window to open up all >> the time... >> >

Re: xscreensaver-command -version is getting called every 30 seconds ?? (sid, xfce4)

2014-01-13 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 08:55:51PM +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > xscreensaver-command -version is getting called every 30 seconds. This > causes my xscreensaver unlock/password dialog window to open up all > the time... > > Any idea how I can find out what's calling t

xscreensaver-command -version is getting called every 30 seconds ?? (sid, xfce4)

2014-01-13 Thread Zenaan Harkness
xscreensaver-command -version is getting called every 30 seconds. This causes my xscreensaver unlock/password dialog window to open up all the time... Any idea how I can find out what's calling this command every 30 seconds? TIA Zenaan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user

Re: Holy Gnome3 Invasion, Batman! - Testing Upgrades 06/30/2013

2013-07-01 Thread Jape Person
On 06/30/2013 11:38 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > [JFTR, I hit the same issue a while ago in unstable, and it took a while > to clean via aptitude's interactive interface] > > On Du, 30 iun 13, 17:49:13, Jape Person wrote: >> >> So...my problem was that I was

Re: Holy Gnome3 Invasion, Batman! - Testing Upgrades 06/30/2013

2013-06-30 Thread Andrei POPESCU
[JFTR, I hit the same issue a while ago in unstable, and it took a while to clean via aptitude's interactive interface] On Du, 30 iun 13, 17:49:13, Jape Person wrote: > > So...my problem was that I was just using my package manager improperly. > (Self-inflicted wounds are a

Re: Holy Gnome3 Invasion, Batman! - Testing Upgrades 06/30/2013

2013-06-30 Thread Jape Person
On 06/30/2013 04:01 PM, Jochen Spieker wrote: > Patrick Wiseman: >> On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 10:06 AM, Jape Person wrote: >>> >>> Forgive the facetious thread title, please. I just about got knocked out of >>> my >>> socks this morning when I ran my da

Re: Holy Gnome3 Invasion, Batman! - Testing Upgrades 06/30/2013

2013-06-30 Thread Jochen Spieker
Patrick Wiseman: > On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 10:06 AM, Jape Person wrote: >> >> Forgive the facetious thread title, please. I just about got knocked out of >> my >> socks this morning when I ran my daily upgrade checks in aptitude. >> >> I run Debian tes

Re: Holy Gnome3 Invasion, Batman! - Testing Upgrades 06/30/2013

2013-06-30 Thread Jape Person
On 06/30/2013 11:06 AM, Jape Person wrote: > On 06/30/2013 10:40 AM, Patrick Wiseman wrote: >> On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 10:06 AM, Jape Person wrote: >>> Hi! >>> >>> Forgive the facetious thread title, please. I just about got knocked out of >>>

Re: Holy Gnome3 Invasion, Batman! - Testing Upgrades 06/30/2013

2013-06-30 Thread Jape Person
On 06/30/2013 10:40 AM, Patrick Wiseman wrote: > On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 10:06 AM, Jape Person wrote: >> Hi! >> >> Forgive the facetious thread title, please. I just about got knocked out of >> my >> socks this morning when I ran my daily upgrade checks in apt

Re: Holy Gnome3 Invasion, Batman! - Testing Upgrades 06/30/2013

2013-06-30 Thread Patrick Wiseman
On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 10:06 AM, Jape Person wrote: > Hi! > > Forgive the facetious thread title, please. I just about got knocked out of my > socks this morning when I ran my daily upgrade checks in aptitude. > > I run Debian testing with Xfce, and I'd like to kee

Holy Gnome3 Invasion, Batman! - Testing Upgrades 06/30/2013

2013-06-30 Thread Jape Person
Hi! Forgive the facetious thread title, please. I just about got knocked out of my socks this morning when I ran my daily upgrade checks in aptitude. I run Debian testing with Xfce, and I'd like to keep it that way. About a year ago I switched out Wicd for network-manager-gnome so that I could m

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Re: How to debug: "INIT: PANIC: segmentation violation at 0xb776c417! sleeping for 30 seconds."

2011-01-29 Thread Arturo R.
I hate to "bump" my own message, but I'm making some progress and I'm wondering if anyone can help me further debug. My initial message: On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 10:31 PM, Arturo R. wrote: > Hi all. > > Per the title, I'd love to get your input on how to debug/fix this > particular issue. A descr

How to debug: "INIT: PANIC: segmentation violation at 0xb776c417! sleeping for 30 seconds."

2011-01-24 Thread Arturo R.
Hi all. Per the title, I'd love to get your input on how to debug/fix this particular issue. A description of my setup: Asus UL30A-X5 Laptop 1.3GHz Intel SU7300 Core 2 Duo 4GB of DDR3 RAM 500GB SATA Intel GMA 4500MHD Running Debian sid on a coLinux 0.7.8 (uname -a: "Linux colinux 2.6.33.5-co-0.7

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Re: vpnc times out after about 30 minutes i think

2009-12-28 Thread Javier Barroso
Hi, On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 6:28 AM, Mitchell Laks wrote: > Hi > I need to connect via a cisco router from a debian machine to a debian > machine. > after i run vpnc and after I am  connected, > suddenlym after about 30 minutes (i think), i find myself disconnected, even >

vpnc times out after about 30 minutes i think

2009-12-28 Thread Mitchell Laks
Hi I need to connect via a cisco router from a debian machine to a debian machine. after i run vpnc and after I am connected, suddenlym after about 30 minutes (i think), i find myself disconnected, even in the middle of active interaction. I tried including the line DPD idle timeout (our

Re: 30 Minutes (system time/ntpdate/dovecot)

2009-06-15 Thread David Baron
On Monday 15 June 2009 08:20:23 debian-user-digest-requ...@lists.debian.org wrote: > > Even more. I get a bootup error message failing to set date (and time) > > to ... the following day + 3 hours!! > > You may have a bad system clock. That does happen on some older > hardware or if a CMOS battery

Re: 30 Minutes (system time/ntpdate/dovecot)

2009-06-14 Thread Todd A. Jacobs
On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 04:50:23PM +0300, David Baron wrote: > Even more. I get a bootup error message failing to set date (and time) > to ... the following day + 3 hours!! You may have a bad system clock. That does happen on some older hardware or if a CMOS battery goes bad. I'd do the following

Re: 30 Minutes (system time/ntpdate/dovecot)

2009-06-14 Thread David Baron
>>>Has been happening quite a bit lately: >>>Problem with ntpdate. If and when it finally works, get a change of 10,800 >seconds ... that is 30 minutes. >>>The dovecot IMAPd server is unreadable. Restarting it yields a complaint >>>about 10,800 seconds of

Re: 30 Minutes (system time/ntpdate/dovecot)

2009-06-11 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 04:08:54PM +0300, David Baron wrote: > >>Has been happening quite a bit lately: > > >>Problem with ntpdate. If and when it finally works, get a change of 10,800 > >seconds ... that is 30 minutes. > > >>The dovecot IMAPd serve

Re: 30 Minutes (system time/ntpdate/dovecot)

2009-06-11 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Thu,11.Jun.09, 16:08:54, David Baron wrote: > OK, time to fix this. Since my system comes up with the "correct" time zone > but three hours later, it must be interpreting the stored (hw) time as GMT > and > adding the three hours (gmt+2 + daylight savings). > > How to fix this? If you onl

Re: 30 Minutes (system time/ntpdate/dovecot)

2009-06-11 Thread David Baron
>>Has been happening quite a bit lately: >>Problem with ntpdate. If and when it finally works, get a change of 10,800 >seconds ... that is 30 minutes. >>The dovecot IMAPd server is unreadable. Restarting it yields a complaint >>about 10,800 seconds of time, killin

Re: 30 Minutes (system time/ntpdate/dovecot)

2009-06-08 Thread David Baron
>Has been happening quite a bit lately: >Problem with ntpdate. If and when it finally works, get a change of 10,800 >seconds ... that is 30 minutes. >The dovecot IMAPd server is unreadable. Restarting it yields a complaint >about 10,800 seconds of time, killing itself now! Rest

Re: 30 Minutes (system time/ntpdate/dovecot)

2009-06-07 Thread John Hasler
The current chrony initscript looks for a defaultroute at startup. If one is found it puts chronyd online. The ip-up script is only used with PPP. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@list

Re: 30 Minutes (system time/ntpdate/dovecot)

2009-06-07 Thread Celejar
On Sun, 7 Jun 2009 10:59:50 -0400 Daryl Styrk wrote: ... > I've had nothing but great results with chrony. Aside from an issue of > chrony falling back to 127.127.1.1 when it cannot connect to a ntp server.. > Which happens often with my laptop as I move around during the day.. I > fixed tha

Re: 30 Minutes (system time/ntpdate/dovecot)

2009-06-07 Thread Daryl Styrk
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Jun 07, 2009 at 05:07:08PM +0300, David Baron wrote: > Has been happening quite a bit lately: > > Problem with ntpdate. If and when it finally works, get a change of 10,800 > seconds ... that is 30 minutes. > > The dovec

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