Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-09-02 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 04:40:01PM -0500, Kirk Strauser wrote: > At 2003-08-28T18:37:34Z, Nathan E Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I'd guess the latter. I've seen what could have been good software > > engineering if management had been willing to wor

Re: VIA CPU's

2003-08-28 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 09:36:34PM +0100, Peter Nuttall wrote: > On Thursday 28 Aug 2003 8:01 pm, Ron Johnson wrote: [ 43 million levels of quoting ] > > It was a joke. Note the emoticon ":-p". I may be American, but > > I'm not *that* ignorant. Besides, isn't it Pounds Sterling? > > > > "You

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-08-28 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 02:10:10PM -0500, Kirk Strauser wrote: > At 2003-08-28T18:15:09Z, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > SDLC! What a joke! > > OK, I'll bite. Does everyone here honestly hate software engineering? Or > is it that they haven't seen it done well? I'd guess the latter. I'v

Re: Code rights for employees (was Re: SCO identifies code?)

2003-08-20 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Tue, Aug 19, 2003 at 07:21:47PM -0500, Michael D Schleif wrote: > if one wants to pick the nits that are actually buzzing around ones > head ;> Nits don't buzz around your head as they are eggs. (sorry :-) -- Nathan Norman - Incanus Networking mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For the next hour, WE

Re: need djb dnscache init script

2003-08-19 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Mon, Aug 18, 2003 at 10:02:03PM -0400, Tom Vier wrote: > i've googgled a bunch, but all i've come up w/ are redhat scripts. anyone > happen to have a debian version? Install daemontools and run djbdns using svscan as you should. Here's Adam McKenna's [0] init.d script to start/stop svcsan [1]:

Re: Good Debian-based distro

2003-08-14 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Wed, Aug 13, 2003 at 02:23:24PM +0200, David Fokkema wrote: > On Wed, Aug 13, 2003 at 07:13:10AM -0500, Kent West wrote: > > Bummer. I had administrator access to our Sparc server for using as a > > tftp server, but I reckon in a case like yours, you might could have > > created a mini-LAN wit

Re: Poor performance with 1GB of RAM

2003-08-14 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Wed, Aug 13, 2003 at 07:41:04PM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote: > On Wed, 2003-08-13 at 18:14, Nathan E Norman wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 13, 2003 at 08:56:01AM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote: > > >knight:~# swapon -s > > >Filename Type SizeUsed Pr

Re: Challenge-response mail filters considered harmful (was Re: Look

2003-08-14 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 09:32:25AM -0700, Alan Connor wrote: > > From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Aug 7 09:27:07 2003 > > > > > > Carlos Sousa writes: > > > Do you also have an account at my service provider? Or is it that you're > > > just incapable of setting up your mail system to show the real ori

Re: Challenge-response mail filters considered harmful (was Re: Look

2003-08-14 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 09:39:23AM -0700, Alan Connor wrote: > > From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Aug 7 09:33:53 2003 > > > > > > On Thu, 07 Aug 2003 08:10:30 -0500 John Hasler wrote: > > > Carlos Sousa writes: > > > > Do you also have an account at my service provider? Or is it that > > > > you're ju

Re: multiple network cards bound together

2003-08-14 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Wed, Aug 13, 2003 at 09:16:42AM -0400, D. Clarke wrote: > Hi! > > Is it possible to bind multiple (non matching, or matching) network cards > together to act as one device? > > I've got a fileserver here with 2 nics in it, currently both have seperate > ip's but I'd like the box to have just o

Re: Poor performance with 1GB of RAM

2003-08-14 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Wed, Aug 13, 2003 at 08:56:01AM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote: > On Wed, 2003-08-13 at 06:08, Rob Weir wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 11, 2003 at 02:03:26PM -0700, Mark Ferlatte wrote: > > > J. Zidar said on Mon, Aug 11, 2003 at 10:49:21PM +0200: > > > > I see. I'm pretty new to Debian and all. I've read th

Re: d-u / Usenet gateway (was Re: Challenge-response mail filters

2003-08-08 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 09:42:53AM -0700, Alan Connor wrote: > > From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Aug 7 09:40:20 2003 > > > > > > On Tue, Aug 05, 2003 at 10:33:25PM +0100, Karsten M. Self wrote: > > > > > > Newsgroup descriptions are the proper repository for this information. > > > > Are you referr

Re: Look at these update from M$ Corporation.

2003-08-01 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Fri, Aug 01, 2003 at 08:02:18PM +, Andrew McGuinness wrote: > Alan Connor wrote: > >That's how C-R programs work. The bug-track folks wouldn't even know it > >was operating. > > > > > Um.. He *is* "the bug-track folks", and he just said he can see it > operating. > > Thats 3 idiotic claim

Re: Cannot Connect to some website on linux

2003-07-28 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Mon, Jul 28, 2003 at 01:04:01AM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote: > On Mon, 2003-07-28 at 00:43, Ron Johnson wrote: > <---SNIP---> > > # cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_ecn > > 1 > > > > When /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_ecn had the value "1", I couldn't get > > to thatpetplace either. However, I could, after

Re: Could this be debian ?

2003-07-21 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Mon, Jul 21, 2003 at 02:39:00AM -0400, alex wrote: > > http://www.langa.com/newsletters/2003/2003-07-21.htm > > Item 10 - Just for grins > > Get your flamethrowers ready! http://www.langa.com/newsletters/2003/2003-07-21.htm";> *yawn* -- Nathan Norman - Incanus Networking mailto:

Re: OT: why I don't want CCs

2003-07-17 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Thu, Jul 17, 2003 at 12:26:36PM -0600, Gary Hennigan wrote: > martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [snip] > > top - 19:32:46 up 104 days, 4:57, 1 user, load average: 0.01, 0.02, > > 0.05 > > Tasks: 299 total, 1 running, 295 sleeping, 3 stopped, 0 zombie > > Cpu(s): 0.2% user

Re: OT: why I don't want CCs

2003-07-16 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Wed, Jul 16, 2003 at 01:14:52AM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Wed, Jul 16, 2003 at 10:01:47AM +0200, Joerg Johannes wrote: > > And kmail has one major advantage: I can read mails > > with over-long lines without problems... > > So can mutt, but the ultimate solution is to tell your correspon

Re: OT: America's Army

2003-06-27 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 08:35:56PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 04:43:57PM -0500, Nathan E Norman wrote: > > > > You mean FreeCraft. > > > > > > Doh, you're right, but I fear not for long. > > > > Why, do you think In

Re: OT: America's Army

2003-06-25 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 06:30:30AM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 05:54:46PM -0600, Jamin W. Collins wrote: > > > I hope that the Blizzard's threats that caused the end of FreeCiv > > > > You mean FreeCraft. > > Doh, you're right, but I fear not for long. Why, do you think

Re: terms of legal remittance [8 days left].

2003-05-31 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Mon, May 26, 2003 at 04:22:11PM -0500, Kent West wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >The following are demanded, debian-boot unsubscription as previously > >specified [I note that all other lists have been unsubscribed]. Public > >list apology from c j. Watson. No further libelous statemen

Re: issue with make-kpkg kernel_image

2003-04-05 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sat, Apr 05, 2003 at 06:21:46PM -0500, Kevin McKinley wrote: > On Sat, 5 Apr 2003 16:53:42 -0600 > Nathan E Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Sat, Apr 05, 2003 at 12:13:53PM -0900, Andy wrote: > > > > > > I am using this for reference

Re: issue with make-kpkg kernel_image

2003-04-05 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sat, Apr 05, 2003 at 12:13:53PM -0900, Andy wrote: > > I am using this for reference and can successfully do a custom kernel: > http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/ch-kernel.en.html > > I must be doing something wrong because when I try to do it again with > using "Custom.2" I get th

Re: Sparc Ultra1 Debian 3.0, kernel 2.4.18 builtin lan card problem...

2003-04-04 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Fri, Apr 04, 2003 at 06:20:33AM -0500, Michael Bevilacqua wrote: > On Thu, Apr 03, 2003 at 11:23:38AM -0500, Greg Morgan wrote: > > Any ideas/thoughts on what's going on? Thanks in advance for any help. > > Does the Openboot screen initally display the hardware address? (mac > hex address) >

Re: default run level

2003-04-03 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Thu, Apr 03, 2003 at 02:39:02PM -0600, Irish, Jon D BAE SYSTEMS wrote: > Here is a newbie question: Which default run level do I change inittab > to so that the PC boots to a VGA console instead of X? You don't play with inittab at all; this isn't RedHat. See http://home.ix.netcom.com/~kmself/

Re: login as root to GUI

2003-04-03 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Thu, Apr 03, 2003 at 12:49:01PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Thu, 3 Apr 2003 08:47:54 -0600 > Nathan E Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > mutt does line wrap, but the default is ugly and hard to read. Many > > popular and useful MUAs don't do li

Re: urgent Mail Server

2003-04-03 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Wed, Apr 02, 2003 at 10:43:04PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Wed, Apr 02, 2003 at 12:26:37PM -0600, Nathan E Norman wrote: > > Please read section 5 of rfc 2821. > > > > "If no MX records are found, but an A RR is found, the A RR is > > treated as if it wa

Re: unsubscribe

2003-04-03 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Thu, Apr 03, 2003 at 02:50:11PM +0100, Mark Martin wrote: > > > Disclaimer > The above information is confidential to the addressee and may be > privileged. Unauthorised access and use is prohibited. Internet > communications are not secure and therefore this company does not accept > legal r

Re: Problems with ddclient

2003-04-03 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Wed, Apr 02, 2003 at 09:22:31PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > (Please reply to the list as others may run into this problem, too) > > On Wed, Apr 02, 2003 at 10:32:07PM -0500, Stephen Touset wrote: > > Is that a limitation of ddclient? I've tried inputting the values > > manually on their webpa

Re: login as root to GUI

2003-04-03 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Thu, Apr 03, 2003 at 08:18:30AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Wed, 2 Apr 2003 23:31:52 -0800 > Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Please turn your line wraps on to something more sensable like 72 > > columns per line instead of one paragraph per line. > > This isn't meant t

Re: Why am I no longer receiving the digest?

2003-04-03 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Wed, Apr 02, 2003 at 10:58:15PM +0100, Pigeon wrote: > On Wed, Apr 02, 2003 at 12:31:56PM -0600, Nathan E Norman wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 02, 2003 at 01:41:46PM +0100, Pigeon wrote: > > > Is there some problem with the list servers at the moment? I haven't > > &g

Re: cdrdao / ide-scsi problem

2003-04-03 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Thu, Apr 03, 2003 at 02:07:28AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Thu, Apr 03, 2003 at 10:10:10AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > > cdrecord asks the following debconf question: > > OK, mybad. But xcdroast doesn't, and I never use cdrecord from the > command line since xcdroast will do it all in on

Re: Why am I no longer receiving the digest?

2003-04-02 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Wed, Apr 02, 2003 at 01:41:46PM +0100, Pigeon wrote: > Is there some problem with the list servers at the moment? I haven't > received a debian-user-digest since March 31st. Yet on visiting > lists.debian.org I see there's been plenty of traffic. Has anybody > else not received the digest? > >

Re: urgent Mail Server

2003-04-02 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Wed, Apr 02, 2003 at 09:18:50AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Wed, 2 Apr 2003 01:31:02 -0800 > Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I guess this message is some sort of demented halucination. I have > > never had an MX record...yet I still get the list. I also haven't had > >

Re: urgent Mail Server

2003-04-02 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Wed, Apr 02, 2003 at 09:09:07AM -0600, Jeffrey L. Taylor wrote: > Quoting Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > [snip] > > An MX is only needed if some other system is going to be handling the > > mail bound for that one. > > > > You can get away with this most of the time. However, the RFCs do

Re: sparc stability

2003-04-01 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Wed, Apr 02, 2003 at 02:30:12AM +0100, Warwick Brown wrote: > heya peeps, > > ive been trying to run linux on sparc for a while now, but no matter > what distributuib/kernel i use, it seems to crash on an almost daily > basis, im using a Sun Creator3D/30, and i cant seem to find any > resolve,

Re: error on boot up

2003-04-01 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Tue, Apr 01, 2003 at 03:15:38PM +0800, lito lampitoc wrote: > Hi All, > > Sorry if this is OT, but I seems to be the only one on debian-sparc > list, that why I'm cross posting this. Er, I never saw your post on debian-sparc ... taking it back there. > I installed debian 3 on my Sun sparc ne

Re: [OT] no space after defined \newcommands in LaTeX

2003-03-31 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Mon, Mar 31, 2003 at 07:44:01PM -0500, Nori Heikkinen wrote: > > how do you mean, "they have to do that for most commands they didn't > write"? A builtin, like \TeX. I can't write "\TeX is really cool", I have to write "\TeX{} is really cool". -- Nathan Norman - Incanus Networking mailto:[E

Re: [~OT] tax program for linux

2003-03-30 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Mon, Mar 31, 2003 at 12:45:55AM -0500, Fred Smith wrote: > On Sun, 2003-03-30 at 22:25, Nori Heikkinen wrote: > > My dad, who has graciously done my taxes for me every year up until > > now, has finally shuffled them off to me. When i ask him how to do > > them, he keeps telling me to get Turbo

Re: Networking troubles with multiple nics

2003-03-30 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sun, Mar 30, 2003 at 07:59:21PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Sun, 30 Mar 2003 13:56:15 -0600 > Nathan E Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > auto eth1 > > iface eth1 inet static > > address 192.168.1.1 <-- > >

Re: Networking troubles with multiple nics

2003-03-30 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sun, Mar 30, 2003 at 01:23:09PM -0600, Eric Eelkema wrote: > Hi, > > I have a 486 with three 3c509 cards set up as a router. It > took some work to get the cards on different IRQs, but I > think I did that correctly, and all of them work individually. > The problem is, when I bring up both int

Re: buying a cd writer

2003-03-29 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sat, Mar 29, 2003 at 11:10:30PM +, Jonathan Matthews wrote: > On Sat, Mar 29, 2003 at 08:01:33PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > [snip] > > Yes, agree, I have an old 12x lite on and a newer 40x. Works fine on > > both windoze and debian. I'm also useing a Plextor 48x, very nice. And a >

Re: pxelinux boot isn't loading woody kernel

2003-03-29 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sat, Mar 29, 2003 at 06:05:32PM -0500, Susan Kleinmann wrote: > I am trying to install Debian onto a floppy-less CD-ROM-less Shuttle > XPC SS40G with an AMD Athlon installed. > > Following the instructions at: > http://www.debianplanet.org/node.php?id=818 > I obtained the linux.bin and root.bin

Re: dpkg/dselect misbehavior

2003-03-29 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sat, Mar 29, 2003 at 10:42:19AM -0500, Stephan Sauerburger wrote: [ please don't top post ] > Oh man.. I just spent about 4 days installing packages and > reconfiguring it from scratch, including rolling a new kernel. Not > having to completely redo all of it again from a Woody CD would be >

Re: [OT] Designing a Website

2003-03-29 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sat, Mar 29, 2003 at 10:33:33PM +0200, Aryan Ameri wrote: > > Your sig does not begin with a single line consisting of the three > > characters "-- " (ignoring the quotes); such a delimiter is considered > > standard. > > ASAIKS, my sig does have that "-- " character, because KMail 1.5 > automa

Re: How should we handle people who can not unsubscribe?

2003-03-29 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sat, Mar 29, 2003 at 02:14:24PM -0500, Mark L. Kahnt wrote: [ snip ] > I am getting the impression that many people commenting in this thread > didn't pay attention to what the OP was dealing with. IIUC, his email > address has been changed by his ISP from .com to .net, and while they > are st

Re: [OT] Designing a Website

2003-03-29 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sat, Mar 29, 2003 at 08:24:53PM +0200, Aryan Ameri wrote: > Did I ask for a tutorial on Basic html tags? > or did I ask wether graphic intensive websites are good pr bad? Neither, you asked asked for help creating an aesthetically pleasing web page which conformed to standards so you could get

Re: [OT] Designing a Website

2003-03-29 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sat, Mar 29, 2003 at 05:33:54PM +0200, Aryan Ameri wrote: > Hi there: > > I am a freshman student, in Computer Studies. A project has recently been > assigned to us in one of our courses (intro to computers), and as I don't > have experience building websites, I am seeking your advice in this

Re: Convincing someone to switch to Linux

2003-03-29 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sat, Mar 29, 2003 at 12:34:47AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Sat, Mar 29, 2003 at 04:21:23PM +1200, cr wrote: > > That 'tech support' is a red herring anyway, at least if you have Internet > > access. I've had better support from the linux-newbie, gnome, debian > > mailing lists (and even

Re: Convincing someone to switch to Linux

2003-03-29 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sat, Mar 29, 2003 at 11:41:25AM +0200, Aryan Ameri wrote: > On Saturday 29 March 2003 02:37, Roberto Sanchez wrote: > > > -MS Windows controlled BIOS setup (I just found out the new Toshiba laptops > > have no more "hit to enter setup" on boot. It is all handled through > > Windows utilities

Re: System Slows Down

2003-03-28 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 10:32:53AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Fri, 28 Mar 2003 01:41:09 -0800 > Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 11:44:38AM +0200, Barak Korren wrote: > > > 2. The right way to configure crontab it to use the contab (1) > > > command.

Re: reporting a bug

2003-03-28 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 10:29:32AM -0500, Francis Lau wrote: > Hi, > > I'm quite new at Debian so please bare with me. I was trying to install > wu-ftp on a machine and the following message popped up: You do know there's a debian package of wu-ftpd, right? I'll skip my usual rant regarding the

Re: How should we handle people who can not unsubscribe?

2003-03-28 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 07:10:27PM +0200, Barak Korren wrote: > Nathan E Norman wrote: > > >On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 04:04:38AM -0800, Osamu Aoki wrote: > > > > > >>Oh, as for subscription address, maybe we need to tell outlook user how > >>to read the

Re: Limit a process's CPU usage?

2003-03-28 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 05:01:39PM +0100, Thomas Krennwallner wrote: > On Fri Mar 28, 2003 at 08:34:21AM -0600, the boisterous > Nathan E Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote to me: > > PS I don't have a limits(5) manpage. What package provides it? I do > > have th

Re: Limit a process's CPU usage?

2003-03-28 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 02:15:03PM +0100, Joerg Johannes wrote: > On Friday 28 March 2003 12:52, Thomas Krennwallner wrote: > > A quick look gave me: limits(5) > > In Debian it seems to be /etc/security/limits.conf and not /etc/limits > > as described in limits(5) > > As I understand it, this will

Re: Linux Sucketh not.

2003-03-28 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Thu, Mar 27, 2003 at 11:30:36PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 11:17:31PM -0800, Paul E Condon wrote: > > This is a reply to this email as received in digest mode. I use mutt > > to read my mail. In mutt, I open the digest email by pressing CR, and > > then open a pick-list

Re: apt-get dist-upgrade bails

2003-03-28 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 12:24:59AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Thu, Mar 27, 2003 at 10:10:17PM +, Jonathan Matthews wrote: > > > apt-get install apt dpkg tar ( ... any others anyone?) debconf > > apt-get dist-upgrade > > > This is redundant. Things apt depends on always get resolved a

Re: God answeres my prayers to get off this list, "NO!", God says, "Your pain must endure forever!!!"

2003-03-28 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 11:39:41AM +0100, Nicos Gollan wrote: > OK, you get _one_ more chance before I forward each and every message I get > from the list to you. Yes, that's a threat. Yes, I'd do this. It'll become > active if I see one more dumb post by you dating from after 11:45 CEDST. Plea

Re: Convincing someone to switch to Linux

2003-03-27 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Thu, Mar 27, 2003 at 06:48:26AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 04:13:14PM -0600, Nathan E Norman wrote: > > Perhaps I am out in left field, but if a business considers a $1500 > > computer "expensive", there may be other problems at said company

Re: [OT, FLAME] Linux Sucks

2003-03-27 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Thu, Mar 27, 2003 at 09:49:49AM +1100, Joyce, Matthew wrote: > > > > > Devil's advocate: how do you knmow firestarter does what it > > says it is doing if you don't understand iptables? Please > > don't take this as a personal attack; I just feel if you > > don't understand the technology,

Re: leaving computer on 24/7

2003-03-26 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 10:12:14PM +, Karsten M. Self wrote: > on Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 10:03:39AM -0800, Bill Wohler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > "Koen Dejonghe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > I installed debian woody on an ordinary pc and was wondering if I can > > > leave the machin

Re: remount md0 after disc failure

2003-03-26 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 01:43:09PM +1100, Lindsay Yardley wrote: > G'day all, > I have or will have in a few minutes (I hope): > hda1: /boot > hda2: / > hda3: swap > md0: /home > > My question is: If hda fails and I replace it, reinstall debian then umount > /home from / then mount /home on md0 t

Re: Convincing someone to switch to Linux

2003-03-26 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 08:33:46AM +0100, Conrad Newton wrote: > >From Roberto Sanchez on Tuesday, 2003-03-25 at 18:45:52 -0500: > > It didn't work out. I offered some other ideas (as suggested here on the > > list), and got a "we'll think about it." Today when I went into the > > lounge, I saw

Re: Convincing someone to switch to Linux

2003-03-26 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 07:51:56AM -0800, Kenward Vaughan wrote: > On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 08:33:46AM +0100, Conrad Newton wrote: > > >From Roberto Sanchez on Tuesday, 2003-03-25 at 18:45:52 -0500: > > > It didn't work out. I offered some other ideas (as suggested here on the > ... > > Just out o

Re: [OT, FLAME] Linux Sucks

2003-03-26 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 12:42:38PM -0500, Roberto Sanchez wrote: > >It's not a question of *me* not wanting a GUI. I'm asking whyinhell > >*anyone* would want one. What does it enhance? > > > >What's the design goal? So far the only thing I've ever seen in print is > >that it needs to be done be

Re: [OT, FLAME] Linux Sucks

2003-03-25 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 07:28:15AM -0800, nate wrote: > Nathan E Norman said: > > > Sorry for yelling, but this whole "debian is hard to install" thing drives > > me crazy. Call me an elite bastard, but I still feel if debian is too > > hard to install, you sho

Re: Installer - Was: [OT, FLAME] Linux Sucks

2003-03-25 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 10:51:18AM +, Klaus Imgrund wrote: > > Does anybody if the installer that is used for the 'testing netinstall' > images is a sign of things to come.If so I would like to know where I > can go and whine about it. I'm not sure about how the testing netinstall relates t

Re: Official Exim 4 package

2003-03-25 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 07:26:50AM -0600, Jamin W. Collins wrote: > On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 04:40:41AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 24, 2003 at 11:26:38AM -0600, Jamin Collins wrote: > > > No it's not. Version number indicate a progression of an > > > application, they have no indica

Re: setting up RAID

2003-03-25 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 12:20:55PM +0200, Konstantin Kostadinov wrote: > > > G'day all, > > I'm setting up a RAID1 set in debian 3r0. > > I checked /proc/mdstat & got the following: > > Personalities: [raid1] > > read_ahead not set > > unused devices: > > > > hmmm, I got RAID support, woopeee >

Re: [OT, FLAME] Linux Sucks

2003-03-25 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 02:05:16AM -0800, Lukas Latz wrote: > > Of course, when the shiny happy install doesn't work on some esoteric > > hardware you're screwed, but nobody runs _that_ stuff. (or do > > they??) > > > > *sigh* > > About 2 1/2 years ago, I installed Suse on a 1997 Mac clone with

Re: [OT, FLAME] Linux Sucks

2003-03-24 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 03:30:10PM +1100, Lindsay Yardley wrote: > | Marc, the original poster clearly had a problem that went way beyond not > | being able to install Debian, but in charity there is no excess. And it > | will do no good to make Debian less easy because he was annoying. > > I'v

Re: [OT, FLAME] Linux Sucks

2003-03-24 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Mon, Mar 24, 2003 at 03:07:24PM -0800, Marc Wilson wrote: > On Mon, Mar 24, 2003 at 10:03:24AM -0800, nate wrote: > > hopefully this time around there's enough time for them to get it > > working, though I don't know if we'll see an official X11-based installer > > for the next revision, I hope

Re: [OT, FLAME] Linux Sucks

2003-03-23 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sun, Mar 23, 2003 at 07:26:51PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Sun, Mar 23, 2003 at 07:19:32PM -0800, Kenward Vaughan wrote: > > I think he showed up late last year, yes? > > Late last month. I think he posted twice out of a few dozen times > that he demonstrated he had a clue. I think his b

Re: Where is faq/HOWTO for changing locale?

2003-03-22 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sat, Mar 22, 2003 at 11:59:35AM -0800, Peter Farley wrote: > I need to change my locale from LANG=C to LANG=en_US > on debian-390 (woody-3.0r1), running under hercules > 390 emulator. Just changing the value of LANG does > not seem to do what I expect. In fact, it doesn't > seem to do much of

Re: not accepting mail despite proper A<->PTR setup

2003-03-22 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sat, Mar 22, 2003 at 04:54:52PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: > I just got a mail delivery error from another MTA: > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: host xxx.xx[123.12.123.12] refused to > talk to me: 501-HELO requires a valid host name as operand: > 'albatross.madduck.net' 501-connection

Re: gpg: DSA requires the use of a 160 bit hash algorithm

2003-03-21 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Fri, Mar 21, 2003 at 01:18:40PM +0200, Tapio Lehtonen wrote: > I can't anymore sign e-mails using mutt. Error is > > gpg: DSA requires the use of a 160 bit hash algorithm > > What to do to fix this? I started getting the error after installing > spamassassin from testing to a woody host. I did

Re: moving harddives from one system to another

2003-03-20 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Fri, Mar 21, 2003 at 01:49:44AM -0500, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote: > On Thu, Mar 20, 2003 at 08:11:39PM -0600, Hanasaki JiJi wrote: > | is it safe to take a harddrive, with data on it, out of one system and > | put it in another? > > Just ensure that > 1) the other machine's hardware can

Re: Problems with Apt-Get

2003-03-20 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Thu, Mar 20, 2003 at 06:01:13PM -0600, Joseph A Nagy Jr wrote: > Colin Watson wrote: > >On Thu, Mar 20, 2003 at 04:39:51PM -0600, Joseph A Nagy Jr wrote: > > >>Perhaps one day they'll improve upon FTP. > > > >HTTP improved upon FTP long ago. The fact that the name hasn't been > >changed doesn't

Re: Problems with Apt-Get

2003-03-20 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Thu, Mar 20, 2003 at 09:40:10AM -0600, Joseph A Nagy Jr wrote: > I'm having problems with updating the package list from > mirrors.kernel.org (apt-get says connection times out). Is this a known > problem or am I just one of the (un)lucky few who this happens to? > > Here's a partial output f

Re: Debian unofficial repositories w/ Apache 2.0.44/PHP 4.3.1/MySQL 4.0.12

2003-03-20 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Thu, Mar 20, 2003 at 03:48:19AM -0800, Ryan Aligen wrote: > > Hello, this is my first time on this list. I was just wondering if there > are any repositories with these packages or if I will have to compile them > manually. Check out http://www.apt-get.org/ . If you don't find what you want

Re: Finally - Your Own Low Cost Teleconferencing Service!

2003-03-19 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 10:32:46PM -0600, Joseph A Nagy Jr wrote: > Conference Service wrote: [ snip _entire fdreaking spam message ] > Okay, this is just bad, folks. Consider yourself whacked upside the head with a clue-by-four. Reposting spam to any mailing list is at best considered bad form

Re: Making PDF document in KWord

2003-03-19 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 10:12:04AM -0500, Alan Shutko wrote: > Nathan E Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > You can create a PS document with TeX and then convert it to PDF > > using 'ps2pdf'; the result is usually poor. > > Try making your ps f

Re: OT: what's the difference between apache+mod_perl and apache-perl, apache+mod_ssl and apache-ssl etc...

2003-03-19 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 12:49:40PM +0200, Haim Ashkenazi wrote: > Hi > > If I understand corectly, apache-perl is staticaly compiled with mod_perl (that is > it's the same as installing apache+mod_perl). so how come I can install both? the > same with apache-ssl. > > Am I missing something her

Re: Making PDF document in KWord

2003-03-19 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 11:06:47AM +0200, Aryan Ameri wrote: > Hi There: > > When I want to make a PDF document with KWord (Using print menu), KWord is > able to make a pdf file, but the result is crappy, many words are not in > their original position, and all in all, it is unreadable. However,

Re: Apt: Searching for "Provides: ..."

2003-03-19 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 08:46:31AM +0100, Thomas Guettler wrote: > Hi! > > I want to search for all packages which provide xserver. > > apt-cache search 'Provides.*xserver.*' > > This should find xserver-s3, but it doesn't. > > Any hints? I'm no apt-cache expert, but my reading of the man pa

Re: MySQL 4

2003-03-18 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Tue, Mar 18, 2003 at 10:58:23PM -0500, Tom Allison wrote: > Brian Nelson wrote: > >Vineet Kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > >>* Andrew Pritchard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20030318 15:27 PST]: > >> > >>>With the recent release of MySQL 4, I was wondering when (if ever) Debian > >>>was going

Re: Source for 2.2.20 kernel

2003-03-14 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Fri, Mar 14, 2003 at 12:47:28AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 10:51:14AM -0600, Jeffrey L. Taylor wrote: > > I'm missing something. What is the name of the source for the 2.2.20 > > kernel? > > kernel-source-2.2.20 if it's still actually in the distribution; it's > pre

Re: TELNET

2003-03-14 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Fri, Mar 14, 2003 at 11:43:44AM +, Joao Paulo wrote: > telnet is also very good (but for other things). >telnet host 25 >telnet host 21 >... Yuck. Use 'nc' from the netcat package instead. -- Nathan Norman - Incanus Networking mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Great minds discuss id

Re: failing to unsubscribe

2003-03-12 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 01:56:01AM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: > i never had problems with this before even though i noticed a million > people complaining. i would like to unsubscribe from a debian-curiosa. > i know for a fact that i am subscribed to debian-curiosa as > [EMAIL PROTECTED] thus i

Re: Bad Debian (L.A.H.)

2003-03-10 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 06:53:54PM +0100, Carel Fellinger wrote: > On Sun, Mar 09, 2003 at 09:53:08PM -0600, Nathan E Norman wrote: > ... > > IMO, you can avoid anything printed by Prentice Hall except stuff > > written by W. Richard Stevens. > > I think that's ill

Re: Bad Debian (L.A.H.)

2003-03-09 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sun, Mar 09, 2003 at 10:19:46PM -0600, John Hasler wrote: > Nathan E Norman writes: > > There are some oddities in /etc/init.d on debian systems; some > > maintainbers have, er, "interesting" ideas about scripting. However, the > > cool thing about debian is ev

Re: buy or build computer?

2003-03-09 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sun, Mar 09, 2003 at 01:55:32PM -0500, Peter Christensen wrote: > My five-year-old Gateway Pentium 200 MHz died recently. (It won't boot from > the hard drive or a rescue disk, and it won't go into bios-setup mode.) I > don't think it's fixable, and anyway, it was so slow that it's probably ti

Re: Bad Debian (L.A.H.)

2003-03-09 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sun, Mar 09, 2003 at 10:08:00AM -0800, Eric G. Miller wrote: > On Sun, Mar 09, 2003 at 06:10:07PM +0100, J. Lambrecht wrote: > > // I am not on the list so please, reply to all > > > > > > Sigh, and now i now why Debian's not for kids > > > > --- > > "From : Linux Administrator Handbook p.35

Re: Installing Intel compiler RPMs on Debian

2003-03-09 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sun, Mar 09, 2003 at 01:34:05AM -0600, Gary Turner wrote: > Charlie Zender wrote: > > >Hi, > > > >What is the recommended way to install the Intel Fortran and C/C++ > >compilers on Debian? They come as a set of RPMs. The RPMs do not > >install on my Debian system, because there are no RPMs ins

Re: [SOLVED] Re: fetchmail and SMTP return codes

2003-03-09 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sun, Mar 09, 2003 at 03:58:05PM +, Jason Chambers wrote: > The SMTP protocol is documented RFC821 so you can see how mail > servers communicate and what the three digit codes mean. > You can then test stuff by "telnet localhost 25" which is useful > for troubleshooting problems. Please re

Re: Orinocco Silver and wep encryption.

2003-03-07 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sat, Mar 08, 2003 at 01:20:10AM -0500, Mark Roach wrote: > On Fri, 2003-03-07 at 11:33, Martin Fluch wrote: > > Hi! > > > > I try to get the WEP encryption (sure, it is not secure but better than > > nothing) on my wireless card (Orinocco Silver) to work at home. No problem > > to use it under

Re: Kernel compile for dhcpd

2003-03-07 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 05:35:55PM -0800, Curtis Vaughan wrote: [ Please don't top post, it makes your post hard to read and easier to ignore ] > Hubert Chan states that I can just take my old config file and copy to > the new tree. I assume you mean to copy it to where I am compiling the > ker

Re: Dumb question: How do you reboot?

2003-03-07 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 09:15:26AM -0500, Bob Paige wrote: > Nathan E Norman wrote: > >[ No technical content, just a funny story ] > > > >At a prior job, we had a bunch of servers in a datacenter. Some of > >the datacenter people liked to play with the keyboard; one of

Re: "resetting" a network card

2003-03-07 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 09:53:26AM -0700, Bob Proulx wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > On Thursday 06 March 2003 10:13, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > The problem is that the network card, after lots of data (about 4GB) - > > > > > either in receive or in transmit, stops responding corr

Re: KNOPPIX and it configure.

2003-03-06 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 08:22:12AM +0200, Egor Tur wrote: > Hi folk. > I want to use KNOPPIX for create my LaTex documents. But I can not > reconfigure LaTex distributive because files of tetex are on CD. Can I > do this. (Now I need reconfigure hyphenations). Thanx. Note: I've never used knoppix.

Re: kernel: lp0 on fire ????

2003-03-06 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 05:20:09PM +1100, John Griffiths wrote: > > > > > >Yes, you are using a retarded email client and inserting this huge > >disclaimer bullshit which is all one one line. > > > >You asked for that one :-) > > > > Wow, > > you're in a charming mood today dude. I see your mail

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