Re: Recover data from unallocated space

2019-06-05 Thread John Crawley
On 2019-06-06 01:24, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: On 05.06.2019 19:52, Vipul wrote: I had a dual booted PC ( Windows and Debian in HP notebook with 1 TB hard-disk) and from few months Windows cannot starts ( because one day I was in hurry change size of two of partitions using "gparted' and to f

Re: What is agetty, and why can't it be stopped?

2019-06-05 Thread David Wright
On Wed 05 Jun 2019 at 22:43:53 (-0400), Felix Miata wrote: > Gene Heskett composed on 2019-06-05 22:04 (UTC-0400): > > > root@coyote:~$ locate agetty > > /sbin/agetty > Maybe this will be a useful clue: > > In Stretch, any gettys running on vtty[1-6] are actually agettys. > Files in /etc/systemd/

Re: logging Q's for stretch

2019-06-05 Thread David Wright
On Wed 05 Jun 2019 at 22:25:07 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > > Since upgrading to stretch, my syslog is being spammed by freshclam, > clamav, and spamd. These has their own logs in wheezy, so syslog was how > I kept track of the hardware. > > So syslog is growing rapidly and gets rotated in ju

Re: Wifi not working in Lenovo laptop/Ideapad/Atheros QCA9377

2019-06-05 Thread senthil kosapeta
Attaching the mail to debian-debbugs list & debian-boot lists. Please redirect if necessary. Summary : 1) System hangs/stucks when firmware-atheros is installed. 2) Thereaferwards Rebooting is not successfull. Please help. Thanks, Senthil On Sun, Jun 2, 2019 at 12:12 PM senthil kosapeta wrote:

Re: What is agetty, and why can't it be stopped?

2019-06-05 Thread Felix Miata
Gene Heskett composed on 2019-06-05 22:04 (UTC-0400): > root@coyote:~$ locate agetty > /sbin/agetty Maybe this will be a useful clue: In Stretch, any gettys running on vtty[1-6] are actually agettys. Files in /etc/systemd/system/getty.target.wants/ are symlinks to: /lib/systemd/system/get

Re: What is agetty, and why can't it be stopped?

2019-06-05 Thread Miles Fidelman
agetty is "alternatative getty" - it's the terminal driver that listens on each terminal port it's launched by init (or systemd), most likely in respawn mode - you'll need to find the init file (or systemd equivalent) that launches it, and change the config do a "man getty" or "man agetty" a

logging Q's for stretch

2019-06-05 Thread Gene Heskett
Greetings all; Since upgrading to stretch, my syslog is being spammed by freshclam, clamav, and spamd. These has their own logs in wheezy, so syslog was how I kept track of the hardware. So syslog is growing rapidly and gets rotated in just a day or so, and that means a "tail -fn xxx" watching

Re: USB digital microscope from Walmart

2019-06-05 Thread David
On Thu, 6 Jun 2019 at 04:15, Mike McClain wrote: > > I bought a USB digital microscope from Walmart that the ads > claimed would work under Win2K and Linux. So far the supplier has > failed to back up that claim with meaningful info. > Has anyone had any luck getting one of these working under Deb

What is agetty, and why can't it be stopped?

2019-06-05 Thread Gene Heskett
Greetings all; This machine has only one serial port, which I normally use a session of minicom to connect as a terminal quit a bit dumber than a vt102, to a TRS-80 Color Computer 3 in the basement. But my normal config for minicom is /dev/ttyS0, but it claims the device is taken. Sure enough

Re: Replacing Pulseaudio with Alsa alone

2019-06-05 Thread Michael Lange
Hi, On Thu, 6 Jun 2019 00:21:31 +0200 Kaj Persson <70147pers...@telia.com> wrote: > Thank you for all answers and advices. A silly question, perhaps: Do I > need take any special steps for the transform, or is just e.g. > >    apt-get --autoremove remove pulseaudio > > sufficient, and the

Re: tea4cups=printer screwup

2019-06-05 Thread Brian
On Wed 05 Jun 2019 at 16:27:41 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Wednesday 05 June 2019 03:10:37 pm Brian wrote: > > > On Wed 05 Jun 2019 at 13:41:48 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > Greetings all; > > > > > > I just removed tea4cups, totally. Why? It totally screws up a print > > > job. > > > > I

Re: Replacing Pulseaudio with Alsa alone

2019-06-05 Thread Kaj Persson
On 2019-06-04 at 23:47, Joe Dennigan wrote: Dan Ritter writes: Kaj Persson wrote: I am running Debian 9 Stretch. After the OS install the Pulseaudio is by default the standard audio system with Alsa as the executor. Which is the best strategy to remove Pulseaudio and instead letting Alsa be t

Re: USB digital microscope from Walmart

2019-06-05 Thread Bob Weber
On 6/5/19 3:09 PM, Mike McClain wrote: I bought a USB digital microscope from Walmart that the ads claimed would work under Win2K and Linux. So far the supplier has failed to back up that claim with meaningful info. Has anyone had any luck getting one of these working under Debian? This

Re: OpenGL forwarding via ssh session: works on jessie, does not work on stretch

2019-06-05 Thread Étienne Mollier
On 6/5/19 10:26 PM, Simon S wrote: > I think i found the culprit: > > I use the debian apt repo for machinekit and the rt kernel: > deb [arch=armhf] http://repos.rcn-ee.com/debian/ stretch main > > This repo installs libGL.so.1.0.0 instead of libGL.so.1.2.0. > I forced to use the default debian a

Re: OpenGL forwarding via ssh session: works on jessie, does not work on stretch

2019-06-05 Thread Simon S
I think i found the culprit: I use the debian apt repo for machinekit and the rt kernel: deb [arch=armhf] http://repos.rcn-ee.com/debian/ stretch main This repo installs libGL.so.1.0.0 instead of libGL.so.1.2.0. I forced to use the default debian apt source repo and purged all libgl stuff from t

Re: Date format for Thunderbird 60.7 -- partial success in changing it

2019-06-05 Thread Jörg-Volker Peetz
Thank you Greg for the clarification. I find your third link https://wiki.debian.org/DotFiles very worth reading. Regards, Jörg Greg Wooledge wrote on 05/06/2019 14:52: > On Wed, Jun 05, 2019 at 11:18:55AM +0200, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: >> As user of thunderbird you best set the environment vari

Re: tea4cups=printer screwup

2019-06-05 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 05 June 2019 03:10:37 pm Brian wrote: > On Wed 05 Jun 2019 at 13:41:48 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Greetings all; > > > > I just removed tea4cups, totally. Why? It totally screws up a print > > job. > > It's liable to do that when the user is clueless. Maybe so. But why doesn't

Re: OpenGL forwarding via ssh session: works on jessie, does not work on stretch

2019-06-05 Thread Simon S
Am Sonntag, 2. Juni 2019 15:00:05 UTC+2 schrieb Simon S: > Hi, > > I have a weird problem with opengl forwarding via ssh. > I am running debian jessie on my BeagleBone Black (armhf) that I use for my > CNC machine by running machinekit. > Everything works as expected, I even got indirect opengl r

Re: Re: Debian standard installation media packages

2019-06-05 Thread Jacques Toerien
Hi, thank you for the response. > Which image exactly are you using ? Please tell the download URL and a checksum after download (MD5 or some SHA*). This is the image I’m now using. (see note below at end of message re. Buster) https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-

Re: tea4cups=printer screwup

2019-06-05 Thread Brian
On Wed 05 Jun 2019 at 13:41:48 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > Greetings all; > > I just removed tea4cups, totally. Why? It totally screws up a print job. It's liable to do that when the user is clueless. > First, it prevents the use of a printers duplex ability, thereby doubling > the use of p

Re: OpenGL forwarding via ssh session: works on jessie, does not work on stretch

2019-06-05 Thread Simon S
Hi! Thanks for testing it out! I was wondering if it had to do with an user beeing logged in to lxde. I think autologin might be enabled on the jessie system. Unfortunately this does not help. Still the same problem on stretch. I have some additional info. Without exporting the inderect renderin

Re: Sequential boot with systemd?

2019-06-05 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 27 mar 19, 19:27:21, Steve Keller wrote: > Is it possible to configure systemd to *not* start services in > parallel? That would be very difficult to achieve with systemd, your best option would probably be to switch to sysv. > I'd prefer deterministic boot with readable boot > messages.

Re: USB digital microscope from Walmart

2019-06-05 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 05 June 2019 03:09:49 pm Mike McClain wrote: > I bought a USB digital microscope from Walmart that the ads > claimed would work under Win2K and Linux. So far the supplier has > failed to back up that claim with meaningful info. > Has anyone had any luck getting one of these workin

Re: USB digital microscope from Walmart

2019-06-05 Thread deloptes
Mike McClain wrote: > I bought a USB digital microscope from Walmart that the ads > claimed would work under Win2K and Linux. So far the supplier has > failed to back up that claim with meaningful info. > Has anyone had any luck getting one of these working under Debian? > This one claims 1000x ma

Re: Replacing Pulseaudio with Alsa alone

2019-06-05 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 05 June 2019 02:02:59 pm deloptes wrote: > Renato Gallo wrote: > > I personally use pulse on chrome and firefox without problems of any > > sort > > same here but I'm not using chrome at all. I use from time to time BT > audio and pulse comes handy there. I am not sure if alsa can han

Re: Replacing Pulseaudio with Alsa alone

2019-06-05 Thread deloptes
Greg Wooledge wrote: > As does firefox-esr 60.6.3esr-1 in buster, it seems.  I didn't know about > about:buildconfig before.  Handy. > > I don't know the exact story, but I've heard pieces of it over the last > year or two.  Apparently at one point upstream decided not to support > direct ALSA an

USB digital microscope from Walmart

2019-06-05 Thread Mike McClain
I bought a USB digital microscope from Walmart that the ads claimed would work under Win2K and Linux. So far the supplier has failed to back up that claim with meaningful info. Has anyone had any luck getting one of these working under Debian? This one claims 1000x magnification and the sup

Re: Replacing Pulseaudio with Alsa alone

2019-06-05 Thread deloptes
Renato Gallo wrote: > I personally use pulse on chrome and firefox without problems of any sort same here but I'm not using chrome at all. I use from time to time BT audio and pulse comes handy there. I am not sure if alsa can handle this.

Re: Replacing Pulseaudio with Alsa alone

2019-06-05 Thread deloptes
Joe wrote: >> >> [1] The problem with "modern" is that it carries with itself a value >> judgement, as a stowaway, so to speak. If you ain't "modern", >> you're a luddite or something. That kind of thing makes communication >> hard. It's difficult to listen, with all that shouting. > > Never for

Re: Replacing Pulseaudio with Alsa alone

2019-06-05 Thread Michael Lange
Hi, On Wed, 5 Jun 2019 12:27:30 +0200 wrote: (...) > What miffs me is that no-one in this thread seems to really care > enough to go check the sources. But then, some still seem to care > enough to go ballistic and complain loudly. > > As I said, I'm happy with my Firefox having no sound (it ha

tea4cups=printer screwup

2019-06-05 Thread Gene Heskett
Greetings all; I just removed tea4cups, totally. Why? It totally screws up a print job. First, it prevents the use of a printers duplex ability, thereby doubling the use of paper. Second, it spits out the single sided job it does print, face up so the stack requires a hand sort to put page 1

Re: Recover data from unallocated space

2019-06-05 Thread Hans
Oh, and there is another idea: If the partition is not overwritten, you can try "testdisk" and recover the partition table. If you succeed, maybe all your datas are accessible again. Best Hans signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: Recover data from unallocated space

2019-06-05 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
On 05.06.2019 19:52, Vipul wrote: > I had a dual booted PC ( Windows and Debian in HP notebook with 1 TB > hard-disk) and from few months Windows cannot starts ( because one day I was > in hurry change size of two of partitions using "gparted' and to fix this I > had many solutions but failed) s

Recover data from unallocated space

2019-06-05 Thread Vipul
I had a dual booted PC ( Windows and Debian in HP notebook with 1 TB hard-disk) and from few months Windows cannot starts ( because one day I was in hurry change size of two of partitions using "gparted' and to fix this I had many solutions but failed) so, yestarday I decided to fix it by using

Re: Replacing Pulseaudio with Alsa alone

2019-06-05 Thread tomas
On Wed, Jun 05, 2019 at 08:34:59AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Jun 05, 2019 at 12:34:49PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > I hope I am believed when I say that firefox in unstable (67.0.1) has > > --enable-alsa in about:buildconfig. And sound works without pulseaudio. > > As does firefox-esr 60.6

Re: Replacing Pulseaudio with Alsa alone

2019-06-05 Thread tomas
On Wed, Jun 05, 2019 at 08:43:31AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Jun 05, 2019 at 10:12:54AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > If you don't care about those things -- or are in for some > > fiddling -- by all means, drop Pulse, and tell us others about > > it! > When I do youtube stuff in

Re: Replacing Pulseaudio with Alsa alone

2019-06-05 Thread Renato Gallo
I personally use pulse on chrome and firefox without problems of any sort Renato Gallo System Engineer sede legale e operativa: Via Privata Cefalonia, 14 - 20156 - Milano (MI) Tel. +39 02 - 87049490 Fax +39 02 - 48677349 Mobile. +39 342 - 6350524 Wi | FreeNumbers: https://freenumbers.way-in

Re: Date format for Thunderbird 60.7 -- partial success in changing it

2019-06-05 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Jun 05, 2019 at 11:18:55AM +0200, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: > As user of thunderbird you best set the environment variable LC_TIME in your > profile, e.g. via ~/.bash_profile . Check it with the command > > $ locale > > You have to log out (from desktop and from computer) before changes in

Re: Replacing Pulseaudio with Alsa alone

2019-06-05 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Jun 05, 2019 at 10:12:54AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > If you don't care about those things -- or are in for some > fiddling -- by all means, drop Pulse, and tell us others about > it! I never installed it to begin with. And my primary browsing has been in google-chrome-stable for qu

Re: Replacing Pulseaudio with Alsa alone

2019-06-05 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Jun 05, 2019 at 12:34:49PM +0100, Brian wrote: > I hope I am believed when I say that firefox in unstable (67.0.1) has > --enable-alsa in about:buildconfig. And sound works without pulseaudio. As does firefox-esr 60.6.3esr-1 in buster, it seems. I didn't know about about:buildconfig befor

Re: Replacing Pulseaudio with Alsa alone

2019-06-05 Thread tomas
On Wed, Jun 05, 2019 at 12:34:49PM +0100, Brian wrote: > On Wed 05 Jun 2019 at 12:08:00 +0200, Michael Lange wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > On Wed, 5 Jun 2019 05:38:18 -0400 > > Dan Ritter wrote: > > > > > > > https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1345661 > > > > > > That was two years ago.

Re: Replacing Pulseaudio with Alsa alone

2019-06-05 Thread Brian
On Wed 05 Jun 2019 at 12:27:30 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > Anyone out there care to download the Debian source package and > check what the compile options are? This *must* be visible in the > Debian-specific patches, right? Not necessary. Use about:buildconfig. -- Brian.

Re: Replacing Pulseaudio with Alsa alone

2019-06-05 Thread Brian
On Wed 05 Jun 2019 at 12:08:00 +0200, Michael Lange wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, 5 Jun 2019 05:38:18 -0400 > Dan Ritter wrote: > > > > https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1345661 > > > > That was two years ago. > > yes, I remember the discussions about that, but still here audio in > fi

Re: Replacing Pulseaudio with Alsa alone

2019-06-05 Thread Stephan Seitz
On Mi, Jun 05, 2019 at 11:20:58 +0200, Michael Lange wrote: Georgi Naplatanov wrote: If you don't use PulseAudio then only one application can use an ALSA device at the same time on your computer. really? Here I can play back a video in firefox and play another video No, I don’t think so. II

Re: Replacing Pulseaudio with Alsa alone

2019-06-05 Thread tomas
On Wed, Jun 05, 2019 at 12:13:54PM +0200, Michael Lange wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, 5 Jun 2019 11:33:15 +0200 > wrote: > > > > Now don't expect your distro maintainer's to continue indefinitely > > maintaining your firefox's port in a non-standard configuration. > > > > sure, I don't expect anyt

Re: Replacing Pulseaudio with Alsa alone

2019-06-05 Thread Michael Lange
Hi, On Wed, 5 Jun 2019 11:33:15 +0200 wrote: > Now don't expect your distro maintainer's to continue indefinitely > maintaining your firefox's port in a non-standard configuration. > sure, I don't expect anything in particular ;) But I believe I can perfectly wait with taking action until it

Re: Replacing Pulseaudio with Alsa alone

2019-06-05 Thread Michael Lange
Hi, On Wed, 5 Jun 2019 05:38:18 -0400 Dan Ritter wrote: > https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1345661 > > That was two years ago. yes, I remember the discussions about that, but still here audio in firefox without PA never ceased to work. Actually I always wondered if anyone really t

Re: Replacing Pulseaudio with Alsa alone

2019-06-05 Thread Tixy
On Wed, 2019-06-05 at 11:17 +0200, Michael Lange wrote: > Hi, > > On Tue, 4 Jun 2019 15:55:34 -0400 > Dan Ritter wrote: > > > Kaj Persson wrote:  > > > I am running Debian 9 Stretch. After the OS install the > > > Pulseaudio is > > > by default the standard audio system with Alsa as the executor

unattended-upgrades downloaded package information only from the sources in sources.list.d directory ignoring sources.list file

2019-06-05 Thread Martin T
Hi, in order to test unattended-upgrades I downgraded yesterday(4.06) packages iceweasel, qemu-utils and thunderbird: # # "apt list --upgradable" command below was executed on 4.06 # apt list --upgradable Listing... Done iceweasel/stable 60.7.0esr-1~deb9u1 all [upgradable from: 52.9.0esr-1~deb9u1

Re: Replacing Pulseaudio with Alsa alone

2019-06-05 Thread Dan Ritter
Michael Lange wrote: > Hi, > > On Tue, 4 Jun 2019 15:55:34 -0400 > Dan Ritter wrote: > > > Kaj Persson wrote: > > > I am running Debian 9 Stretch. After the OS install the Pulseaudio is > > > by default the standard audio system with Alsa as the executor. Which > > > is the best strategy to re

Re: Replacing Pulseaudio with Alsa alone

2019-06-05 Thread tomas
On Wed, Jun 05, 2019 at 11:20:58AM +0200, Michael Lange wrote: > Hi, > > On Tue, 4 Jun 2019 22:51:31 +0300 > Georgi Naplatanov wrote: [...] > > If you don't use PulseAudio then only one application can use an ALSA > > device at the same time on your computer. > > really? Here I can play back a

Re: Replacing Pulseaudio with Alsa alone

2019-06-05 Thread Michael Lange
Hi, On Tue, 4 Jun 2019 22:51:31 +0300 Georgi Naplatanov wrote: > On 6/4/19 10:24 PM, Kaj Persson wrote: > > I am running Debian 9 Stretch. After the OS install the Pulseaudio is > > by default the standard audio system with Alsa as the executor. Which > > is the best strategy to remove Pulseaudi

Re: Replacing Pulseaudio with Alsa alone

2019-06-05 Thread Michael Lange
Hi, On Tue, 4 Jun 2019 15:55:34 -0400 Dan Ritter wrote: > Kaj Persson wrote: > > I am running Debian 9 Stretch. After the OS install the Pulseaudio is > > by default the standard audio system with Alsa as the executor. Which > > is the best strategy to remove Pulseaudio and instead letting Alsa

Re: Date format for Thunderbird 60.7 -- partial success in changing it

2019-06-05 Thread Jörg-Volker Peetz
As user of thunderbird you best set the environment variable LC_TIME in your profile, e.g. via ~/.bash_profile . Check it with the command $ locale You have to log out (from desktop and from computer) before changes in .bash_profile get applied. Regards, Jörg.

Re: use mailx instead of sendmail in apt-listchanges

2019-06-05 Thread Martin T
Dan, > You could do the wrapper, or you could install nullmailer, which > is an extremely simple MTA that always hands off mail to a > relayhost (i.e. somebody else's problem). I ended up with a following wrapper: $ cat /usr/sbin/sendmail #!/usr/bin/env bash # As header fields are at the top of

Re: Replacing Pulseaudio with Alsa alone

2019-06-05 Thread Joe
On Wed, 5 Jun 2019 10:06:23 +0200 wrote: > > [1] The problem with "modern" is that it carries with itself a value >judgement, as a stowaway, so to speak. If you ain't "modern", > you're a luddite or something. That kind of thing makes communication > hard. It's difficult to listen, with all

Re: Replacing Pulseaudio with Alsa alone

2019-06-05 Thread deloptes
humbert.olivie...@free.fr wrote: > Depending on your needs. PA is good at resampling easily different audio > flows at different samplerate. Much easily that what one can do with ALSA. > > Olivier Yes and integration with other subsystems like bluetooth and dbus

Re: Replacing Pulseaudio with Alsa alone

2019-06-05 Thread tomas
On Tue, Jun 04, 2019 at 10:51:31PM +0300, Georgi Naplatanov wrote: [...] > PulseAudio is some kind of mixer/proxy between ALSA and desktop > applications. In modern GNU/Linux OSes it's discouraged to remove/not > using PulseAudio. Because... Reasons. What is a "modern GNU/Linux OS" anyway? This

Re: Replacing Pulseaudio with Alsa alone

2019-06-05 Thread tomas
On Wed, Jun 05, 2019 at 07:40:30AM +0100, Tixy wrote: > On Tue, 2019-06-04 at 22:51 +0300, Georgi Naplatanov wrote: > [...] > > If you don't use PulseAudio then only one application can use an ALSA > > device at the same time on your computer. Even some applications > > support > > PulseAudio only.

Re: Date format for Thunderbird 60.7 -- partial success in changing it

2019-06-05 Thread Curt
On 2019-06-05, Ken Heard wrote: > > The latest version of Thunderbird for Debian Stretch, 70.7 which I now > use, still allows only the US date format, MM-DD-, but for me at > least expresses the time as HH:MM (24 hour clock). In a partially > successful attempt to change the date format I di

Re: Replacing Pulseaudio with Alsa alone

2019-06-05 Thread Michael Howard
On 04/06/2019 20:24, Kaj Persson wrote: I am running Debian 9 Stretch. After the OS install the Pulseaudio is by default the standard audio system with Alsa as the executor. Which is the best strategy to remove Pulseaudio and instead letting Alsa be the one and only audio system? Are there any