Joe wrote: >> >> [1] The problem with "modern" is that it carries with itself a value >> judgement, as a stowaway, so to speak. If you ain't "modern", >> you're a luddite or something. That kind of thing makes communication >> hard. It's difficult to listen, with all that shouting. > > Never forget, not all progress is in the forward direction. It was > progress which led to the Dark Ages.
After the civilization caring the progress collapsed - do not take things out of the context please.