Re: updating debian 8 (jessie) stable to permanent testing - SOLVED?

2016-01-26 Thread Adam Wilson
On Tue, 26 Jan 2016 14:47:11 -0500 Francis Gerund wrote: > Okay, thanks for the tip. Really gonna need to keep up with the > security notices now. > > Or, if it gets too bad, I could just switch to something easier: > https://www.gentoo.org Gentoo? Is that the best you can do? GNU/Linux from

Re: failed to fetch Sid InRelease

2016-01-26 Thread Adam Wilson
On Tue, 26 Jan 2016 17:19:09 -0500 Haines Brown wrote: ># aptitude update >Err: http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian unstable InRelease > temporary failure resolving 'ftp.us.debian.org' >W: Failed to fetch > http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/unstable/InRelease: > tempora

Re: updating debian 8 (jessie) stable to permanent testing - SOLVED?

2016-01-26 Thread Francis Gerund
On 1/26/16, Jochen Spieker wrote: > John Hasler: >> Adam Wilson writes: >>> You should be running dist-upgrades in stable. apt-get upgrade only >>> gets new package versions, leaving out upgrades which require new >>> packages, old packages to be removed, dependency changes, etc. >>> dist-upgrade

is nvidia cuda toolkit package broken?

2016-01-26 Thread H.S.
Folks, I am trying to install Nvidia CUDA toolkit package (to try out CUDA programming) but seem to be getting this circular dependency problem: ~$ sudo aptitude install nvidia-cuda-toolkit The following NEW packages will be installed: libcublas6.5{a} libcuda1{a} libcuda1:i386{a} libcuda1-i38

Re: Problem with udev upgrading from wheezy to jessie

2016-01-26 Thread deloptes
Lisi Reisz wrote: > > I think it is you who have had a slight aberration, deloptes. ;-) > > Lisi > > Sorry for erroneous off-list post. at least gmail seem to work better than yahoo

Re: Problem with udev upgrading from wheezy to jessie

2016-01-26 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 26 January 2016 19:16:04 deloptes wrote: > Chris Bannister wrote: > > I don't know what it means by 'creating the /etc/udev/kernel-upgrade > > file.' I'd check to see it it exists prior then after. I'd remove it if > > the latter, e.g. I haven't got one in my system. > > if we read the O

Re: Problem with udev upgrading from wheezy to jessie

2016-01-26 Thread Brian
On Tue 26 Jan 2016 at 22:38:36 +0200, Selim T. Erdoğan wrote: > On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 01:41:24PM +0100, Michael Biebl wrote: > > > You can force the upgrade of the udev by creating the flag file > > /etc/udev/kernel-upgrade simply by running something like > > touch /etc/udev/kernel-upgrade > >

Re: updating debian 8 (jessie) stable to permanent testing - SOLVED?

2016-01-26 Thread Jochen Spieker
John Hasler: > Adam Wilson writes: >> You should be running dist-upgrades in stable. apt-get upgrade only >> gets new package versions, leaving out upgrades which require new >> packages, old packages to be removed, dependency changes, etc. >> dist-upgrade is necessary if you want all the latest up

Re: updating debian 8 (jessie) stable to permanent testing - SOLVED?

2016-01-26 Thread Bob Holtzman
On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 07:11:40PM -0500, Francis Gerund wrote: > Hi Lisi. > > Just got your posting. > > Yes I did find and read this (among other references). > > It says: > "If you notice that some packages are not upgraded you should also try > apt-get dist-upgrade, but beware that this comm

Re: Problem with udev upgrading from wheezy to jessie

2016-01-26 Thread Charlie Kravetz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 26 Jan 2016 22:34:25 +0100 deloptes wrote: >Charlie Kravetz wrote: > >> >> If I am reading this list correctly, release sequence was Squeeze, >> Wheezy, Jessie. That would make the upgrade wheezy to jessie correct. >> > >Yes apologies - t

failed to fetch Sid InRelease

2016-01-26 Thread Haines Brown
This continues a thread about sound in Sid, but is really a different issue. My copy of Sid, less systemd, was doing fine until I decided to skype:i386 on my amd64 machine (no skype:amd64 available) and then pulseaudio and pauvucontrol. Installing skype no problem, but I had trouble installing pul

Re: Problem with udev upgrading from wheezy to jessie

2016-01-26 Thread deloptes
Charlie Kravetz wrote: > > If I am reading this list correctly, release sequence was Squeeze, > Wheezy, Jessie. That would make the upgrade wheezy to jessie correct. > Yes apologies - this should be something with the arm related kernel and udev versions. regards

Re: Problem with udev upgrading from wheezy to jessie

2016-01-26 Thread deloptes
deloptes wrote: > Chris Bannister wrote: > >> I don't know what it means by 'creating the /etc/udev/kernel-upgrade >> file.' I'd check to see it it exists prior then after. I'd remove it if >> the latter, e.g. I haven't got one in my system. > > if we read the OPs original post we would note tha

Re: Problem with udev upgrading from wheezy to jessie

2016-01-26 Thread Selim T . Erdoğan
On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 01:41:24PM +0100, Michael Biebl wrote: > Am 26.01.2016 um 11:08 schrieb Chris Bannister: > > On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 11:58:16AM +0100, Martin Hanson wrote: > >> > >> Please upgrade your kernel before or while upgrading udev. > >> > >> AT YOUR OWN RISK, you can force the inst

Re: Problem with udev upgrading from wheezy to jessie

2016-01-26 Thread Charlie Kravetz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 26 Jan 2016 20:16:04 +0100 deloptes wrote: >Chris Bannister wrote: > >> I don't know what it means by 'creating the /etc/udev/kernel-upgrade >> file.' I'd check to see it it exists prior then after. I'd remove it if >> the latter, e.g. I have

Re: updating debian 8 (jessie) stable to permanent testing - SOLVED?

2016-01-26 Thread Francis Gerund
On 1/26/16, Brian wrote: > On Tue 26 Jan 2016 at 14:07:42 -0500, Francis Gerund wrote: > >> After carefully considering the warm, supportive, heartfelt posts of >> support and encouragement in this and the other thread, I decided that >> maybe testing isn't for me. >> >> So I upgraded to unstable.

Re: updating debian 8 (jessie) stable to permanent testing - SOLVED?

2016-01-26 Thread Brian
On Tue 26 Jan 2016 at 14:07:42 -0500, Francis Gerund wrote: > After carefully considering the warm, supportive, heartfelt posts of > support and encouragement in this and the other thread, I decided that > maybe testing isn't for me. > > So I upgraded to unstable. You're a little devil on the sl

Re: updating debian 8 (jessie) stable to permanent testing - SOLVED?

2016-01-26 Thread Francis Gerund
On 1/26/16, John Hasler wrote: > Francis Gerund writes: >> So I upgraded to unstable. > >> Let the breakage begin! > >> Uptime: 1:53 . . . and no breakage yet. Jealous? :-) > > I've been running Unstable ever since it was invented. You should > subscribe to debian-devel, debian-changes, and deb

Re: Problem with udev upgrading from wheezy to jessie

2016-01-26 Thread deloptes
Chris Bannister wrote: > I don't know what it means by 'creating the /etc/udev/kernel-upgrade > file.' I'd check to see it it exists prior then after. I'd remove it if > the latter, e.g. I haven't got one in my system. if we read the OPs original post we would note that he's upgrading from wheezy

Re: updating debian 8 (jessie) stable to permanent testing - SOLVED?

2016-01-26 Thread John Hasler
Francis Gerund writes: > So I upgraded to unstable. > Let the breakage begin! > Uptime: 1:53 . . . and no breakage yet. Jealous? :-) I've been running Unstable ever since it was invented. You should subscribe to debian-devel, debian-changes, and debian-security . -- John Hasler jhas...@news

Re: updating debian 8 (jessie) stable to permanent testing - SOLVED?

2016-01-26 Thread Francis Gerund
On 1/26/16, John Hasler wrote: > I wrote: >> You do not need dist-upgrade in Stable. The only changes to Stable are >> new versions of packages already in it. > > Brian writes: >> You are not expecting a Jessie-and a-half, then? > >> https://www.debian.org/News/2008/20080726 > >Installation o

Re: updating debian 8 (jessie) stable to permanent testing - SOLVED?

2016-01-26 Thread John Hasler
I wrote: > You do not need dist-upgrade in Stable. The only changes to Stable are > new versions of packages already in it. Brian writes: > You are not expecting a Jessie-and a-half, then? > https://www.debian.org/News/2008/20080726 Installation of these additional packages is not required a

Re: updating debian 8 (jessie) stable to permanent testing - SOLVED?

2016-01-26 Thread Brian
On Tue 26 Jan 2016 at 10:05:46 -0600, John Hasler wrote: > Adam Wilson writes: > > You should be running dist-upgrades in stable. apt-get upgrade only > > gets new package versions, leaving out upgrades which require new > > packages, old packages to be removed, dependency changes, etc. > > dist-u

Re: updating debian 8 (jessie) stable to permanent testing - SOLVED?

2016-01-26 Thread John Hasler
Adam Wilson writes: > You should be running dist-upgrades in stable. apt-get upgrade only > gets new package versions, leaving out upgrades which require new > packages, old packages to be removed, dependency changes, etc. > dist-upgrade is necessary if you want all the latest updates. You do not

Re: updating debian 8 (jessie) stable to permanent testing - SOLVED?

2016-01-26 Thread John Hasler
David Wright writes: > Debian developers expend their efforts on the packages themselves. > If you consider that being able to painlessly upgrade to testing > is an important goal, then you are free to expend *your* effort in > *that* direction; but you may not receive much help from others. Const

Re: updating debian 8 (jessie) stable to permanent testing - SOLVED?

2016-01-26 Thread John Hasler
Lisi writes: > What has that got to do with anything?? download-only has its uses, > but this does not appear to be one of them. He thinks that if the power goes off in the midst of an upgrade his system will be left in an unrecoverable state. This is not true, of course, as the package manageme

Re: updating debian 8 (jessie) stable to permanent testing - SOLVED?

2016-01-26 Thread Adam Wilson
On Mon, 25 Jan 2016 19:11:40 -0500 Francis Gerund wrote: > So again, perhaps some automated mechanism for upgrading might be > beneficial. Or at least some elaboration or amplification of the > documentation on this subject. And how about a simple guide to "this > is how you update to testing"?

Re: updating debian 8 (jessie) stable to permanent testing

2016-01-26 Thread Adam Wilson
On Mon, 25 Jan 2016 18:54:14 +0300 Adam Wilson wrote: > On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 21:26:26 -0500 Francis Gerund > wrote: > > > Hello . . . > > > > Is this mic on? > > > > What? > Oh, I see. I didn't realise you were just being impatient.

Re: updating debian 8 (jessie) stable to permanent testing - SOLVED?

2016-01-26 Thread Adam Wilson
On Mon, 25 Jan 2016 18:12:09 -0500 Francis Gerund wrote: > Hi, Jochen. > > 1) You are correct. It should have been: > > >Then, I did: > > >sudo apt-get check > >sudo apt-get update > >sudo apt-get upgrade > >sudo clean > >sudo autoclean > >sudo autoremove > > My mistake. Sorry. > > > 2) R

Re: IMPORTEND squid3 stable needs update

2016-01-26 Thread Charlie Kravetz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 26 Jan 2016 22:17:54 +1300 Chris Bannister wrote: >On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 09:37:52PM +0300, Michael Tokarev wrote: >> 15.01.2016 22:47, startrekfan wrote: >> >> > *squid3 Version 3.4.8* is deployed in the Jessie stable >> > repository.*Th

Re: Problem with udev upgrading from wheezy to jessie

2016-01-26 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 26.01.2016 um 11:08 schrieb Chris Bannister: > On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 11:58:16AM +0100, Martin Hanson wrote: >> >> Please upgrade your kernel before or while upgrading udev. >> >> AT YOUR OWN RISK, you can force the installation of this version of udev >> WHICH DOES NOT WORK WITH YOUR RUNNING K

Re: Looking for cheap low-end VPS providers in the USA

2016-01-26 Thread Jeremy T. Bouse
I use Linode (linode.com) and Digital Ocean (digitalocean.com) personally currently. I've looked at Vultr (vultr.com) recently as well after a discussion without our local LUG mailing list as well. I use the first two though because they are fully supported by SaltStack's salt-cloud which allows me

Re: Aptitude message.

2016-01-26 Thread Stephen Allen
On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 11:49:15AM +, Brian wrote: > On Fri 22 Jan 2016 at 20:55:05 +1000, Weaver wrote: > > > Am receiving this on 'aptitude update'. > > ~~ > > root@Telaman:/home/weaver# aptitude update > > Hit http://ftp.au.debian.org/debian unstable InRelease > > [ ERR] Rea

Re: Problem with udev upgrading from wheezy to jessie

2016-01-26 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 26 January 2016 10:08:35 Chris Bannister wrote: > On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 11:58:16AM +0100, Martin Hanson wrote: > > Please upgrade your kernel before or while upgrading udev. > > > > AT YOUR OWN RISK, you can force the installation of this version of udev > > WHICH DOES NOT WORK WITH YO

Re: Aptitude message.

2016-01-26 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 26 January 2016 09:22:40 Chris Bannister wrote: > On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 01:23:25PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > I had this problem once and had to delete the package cache and the > > update to let it rebuild. > > Delete everything in the '/var/lib/apt/lists/partial' directory also. Y

Re: Aptitude message.

2016-01-26 Thread Stephen Allen
On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 08:55:05PM +1000, Weaver wrote: > Hello all, > > Am receiving this on 'aptitude update'. > ~~ > root@Telaman:/home/weaver# aptitude update > Hit http://ftp.au.debian.org/debian unstable InRelease > [ ERR] Reading package lists > E: Unable to parse package fi

Re: updating debian 8 (jessie) stable to permanent testing - SOLVED?

2016-01-26 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 26 January 2016 03:02:09 Francis Gerund wrote: > sudo apt-get --download-only dist-upgrade    (electricity and > networking can fail, you know) What has that got to do with anything?? download-only has its uses, but this does not appear to be one of them. Lisi

Re: updating debian 8 (jessie) stable to permanent testing

2016-01-26 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 10:34:09PM -0500, Francis Gerund wrote: > >> > >> -- or, would something else be better? > >> > > > > Something else would be better- not using jessie-backports. If you're > > already using testing, enabling jessie-backports is pointless and will > > put you halfway into Fra

Re: Looking for cheap low-end VPS providers in the USA

2016-01-26 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 12:56:55PM -0800, David Christensen wrote: > On 01/25/2016 01:16 AM, J Mo wrote: > https://www.linode.com/ > > They've been very professional, and recently survived a high-profile DDOS > attack that would have wiped me out if I had to deal with it alone. Another vote f

Re: updating debian 8 (jessie) stable to permanent testing - SOLVED?

2016-01-26 Thread Jochen Spieker
Francis Gerund: > What was I thinking? (I have some distractions going on right now). > > dist-upgrades? > > Of course. Earlier in this sequence I did ask, to track testing > permanently, should I do: > > sudo apt-get --download-only dist-upgrade > sudo apt-get dist-upgrade Sorry, but to me i

Re: Problem with udev upgrading from wheezy to jessie

2016-01-26 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 11:58:16AM +0100, Martin Hanson wrote: > > Please upgrade your kernel before or while upgrading udev. > > AT YOUR OWN RISK, you can force the installation of this version of udev > WHICH DOES NOT WORK WITH YOUR RUNNING KERNEL AND WILL BREAK YOUR SYSTEM > AT THE NEXT REBOOT

Re: Debian mirrors broke?

2016-01-26 Thread Curt
On 2016-01-24, Lisi Reisz wrote: >> >> ​I am not sure, but when I get a problem with the current mirror I am using >> I run netselect-apt . It tells you which mirror is the fastest and when >> you choose it as far as I recall it automatically updates your apt source >> file with the new mirror.

Re: Aptitude message.

2016-01-26 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 01:23:25PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > I had this problem once and had to delete the package cache and the update to > let it rebuild. Delete everything in the '/var/lib/apt/lists/partial' directory also. -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating t

Re: IMPORTEND squid3 stable needs update

2016-01-26 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 09:37:52PM +0300, Michael Tokarev wrote: > 15.01.2016 22:47, startrekfan wrote: > > > *squid3 Version 3.4.8* is deployed in the Jessie stable > > repository.*This version is outdated and has some security risks!!*. > > Version 3.5 is more secure but unfortunately it's only

Re: Looking for cheap low-end VPS providers in the USA

2016-01-26 Thread Jessica Litwin
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