Re: Let's have a vote!

lee writes: > Stephen Allen writes: > >> So, Lee why are you even here complaining about Debian - You've admitted >> you don't use it?! > > My server runs on Debian. So technically, I'm using it, and I don't > feel like I'm using it. > > What difference does it make? Is there some sort of soci

Re: How/Where to file a feature request

On Tuesday 30 September 2014 02:59:54 Chris Bannister wrote: > On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 12:48:58PM -0400, Philippe Clérié wrote: > > keyboard] dialog, with the header "Keymap to use:". The first selection > > in my case is "American English", and below that keymaps, for just about > > every other co

Re: apt-get errors

Please reply to the list only. On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 09:56:09PM -0500, John Aten wrote: > > > Wow!! How long ago did you last update this laptop? IIRC, that > > url/mirror is no longer in use. > > I installed Wheezy on the Dell less than a week ago. I selected > debian.uchicago.edu, but ther

Re: Why an mp3 is "Not a JPEG file"

On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 01:06:41AM +0200, Johann Klammer wrote: > Well, I know that an mp3 is not a JPEG file. But why does it matter to xine > (or libav or whatever). > > This is what I get on stdout when trying to play some random downloaded > podcast using xine. > > [...] > [mp3 @ 0xa660260] m

Re: vsftpd with ssl

On Mon, 29 Sep 2014 21:19:44 -0400 (EDT) Stephen Powell wrote: > I work with SSL-secured FTP regularly. First of all, let's get the > terminology right. I'm glad to see that you used the term FTPS instead > of SFTP. Many people have the two confused. SFTP is a file transfer > protocol used un

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

On Mon, 29 Sep 2014, Rusi Mody wrote: > A recent question of mine: > https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2014/08/msg01394.html This is because upower is architecture:any, but cannot be co-installed with another version of upower. If the dependency on upower is reasonable, but as long as upower i

Re: Trying to upgrade bash on squeeze, running into errors

On Mon, 29 Sep 2014, Russell Jones wrote: > On 9/26/2014 6:43 PM, Don Armstrong wrote: > >On Fri, 26 Sep 2014, Russell Jones wrote: > >>I've seen several posts about this Bash upgrade issue, but no real > >>answers on how to get past it. Any assistance would be appreciated, > >>thank you! > >This l

Re: Fwd: Re: cron in UTC?

On Mon, 29 Sep 2014, John Hasler wrote: > Tony van der Hoff writes: > > Believe me; I've beaten that man to death, but not found the answer. > > Perhaps you'd like to give a more detailed pointer into that manual? > > See the part about setting environment variables. You should be able to > set T

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 09/29/2014 at 05:49 PM, lee wrote: > Reco writes: > >> What's wrong with the current multiarch implementation in your >> option? I'm really curious as all multiarch complains I've seen >> so far (barring actual package limits) were easily solv

Re: systemd and server use

2014/09/29 23:21 "green" : > > Steve Litt wrote at 2014-09-28 22:04 -0500: > > On Sun, 28 Sep 2014 18:10:52 -0500 green wrote: > > > Microkernels, as I understand, aim to support a highly modular system > > > *design* but are themselves minimal (Minix 3 has about 4000 lines of > > > executable ker

Re: Let's have a vote!

On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 09:05:30PM -0500, green wrote: > Steve Litt wrote at 2014-09-29 20:30 -0500: > > On Mon, 29 Sep 2014 17:13:10 -0400 > > Stephen Allen wrote: > > > Also, in > > > terms of upgrading a Debian System - Are you aware that prior to each > > > major release, Debian releases a com

Re: apt-get errors

On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 02:20:04PM -0500, John Aten wrote: > Hi all, Hi. > I recently installed Debian Wheezy on an old Dell Inspiron laptop. > It's working pretty well, aside from a few hiccups. One of these > happens when updating. apt-get update returns the following errors: > > Err http://ht

Re: Let's have a vote!

Steve Litt wrote at 2014-09-29 20:30 -0500: > On Mon, 29 Sep 2014 17:13:10 -0400 > Stephen Allen wrote: > > Also, in > > terms of upgrading a Debian System - Are you aware that prior to each > > major release, Debian releases a comprehensive upgrade treatise that > > covers any quirks and describi

Re: How/Where to file a feature request

On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 12:48:58PM -0400, Philippe Clérié wrote: > keyboard] dialog, with the header "Keymap to use:". The first selection in > my case is "American English", and below that keymaps, for just about every > other country/language, including British English. What I would like is to T

Re: Part 2 - updating squeeze to wheezy

On Mon, 29 Sep 2014 19:49:16 -0400 Rob Owens wrote: > Sounds like you're using Gnome3 Shell and you're not too excited about > it. Before logging in, you can select your session to be "Gnome > Classic" or "Gnome Fallback" (I can't remember which). That will be > fairly similar to the Gnome you

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

On Mon, 29 Sep 2014 23:46:04 +0200 lee wrote: > Ansgar Burchardt writes: > > > If you don't want to use Debian then don't. But if you don't even > > want to use it, making lots of complaints about it seems uncalled > > for... > > There is a difference between using something because it works a

Re: Fwd: Re: cron in UTC?

On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 05:13:48PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Monday 29 September 2014 17:01:31 Tony van der Hoff wrote: > > well, it's my understanding that the system (hardware)  time is always > > UTC, but there is no way to set localtime to GMT (or UTC). Perhaps I'm > > misunderstanding you.

Re: Let's have a vote!

On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 01:19:13 +0200 lee wrote: > It's because my server runs on Debian; I wouldn't be here otherwise. > And since it does, I've considered using Debian again (on my desktop) > because that could have some advantages. Wait a minute Lee. Aren't you the guy who insists on xen? As I

Re: Let's have a vote!

On Mon, 29 Sep 2014 17:13:10 -0400 Stephen Allen wrote: > On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 11:58:30AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > > > Me, I'm personally going to continue fresh installing, because I > > enjoy the spring-cleaning aspect of it, and the fact that I'm > > starting my new version from a known

Re: Let's have a vote!

On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 09:08:24 +1000 Charlie wrote: > In my case have two laptops with Debian Jessie, an Acer and Toshiba, > second hand when I got them both with only 512MB of RAM and a bit > challenged now, when I do too much at once. They will never go past > Jessie, they have both been used as

Re: Apt-dpkg differences

https://wiki.debian.org/FtpMaster/Override -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/87fvf96gp8@thumper

Re: vsftpd with ssl

On Mon, 29 Sep 2014 16:00:36 -0400 (EDT), Marko Randjelovic wrote: > > I installed vsftpd on Wheezy and am trying to make it work with ssl (ftps > protocol). > > This is my config file: > > listen=YES > anonymous_enable=NO > local_enable=YES > dirmessage_enable=YES > use_localtime=YES > xferlog_

Re: Let's have a vote!

On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 2:22 PM, Mart van de Wege wrote: > lee writes: > > > "Karl E. Jorgensen" writes: > > > >> * not doing "crazy things", like running backports or > >> testing/unstable [2], and no grabbing *.debs from weird places. > > > > Debian isn't as stable as you like to think. I

Re: Trying to upgrade bash on squeeze, running into errors

I just did this thanks to this tip: https://wiki.debian.org/LTS/Using https://wiki.debian.org/LTS https://wiki.debian.org/LTS/FAQ Joe From: Russell Jones To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Date: 09/29/2014 07:40 PM Subject:Re: Trying to upgrade bash on squeeze, running into e

Apt-dpkg differences

Why a relevant number of packages appears to have different priority depending on where you look for that field? For example if you get "aptitude_0.6.11-1_amd64.deb" from a Debian mirror and you look inside "debian/control" file, you'll see: Priority: important But if you get /debian/dists/si

Re: Can't unlock the screensaver

softwatt writes: > I had a similar issue, and it turned out I was typing the password in > the wrong language. If you use multiple languages, Try pressing > ALT+SHIFT (The default language switch) and retrying. You may need to do > it multiple times if you have multiple languages. > If that is no

Re: fvwm: was i3 sticky/floating windows (brasero requires gvfs)

On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 2:44 PM, Charlie wrote: > > On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 16:20:27 +0200 lee mentioned this: > Re: fvwm: was i3 sticky/floating windows (brasero requires > gvfs). > >> >> >> Steve Litt writes: >> >> >> >> Because you use fvwm on a regular basis, you should write some >>

Re: Let's have a vote!

Stephen Allen writes: > So, Lee why are you even here complaining about Debian - You've admitted > you don't use it?! My server runs on Debian. So technically, I'm using it, and I don't feel like I'm using it. What difference does it make? Is there some sort of social contract you need to sig

Re: MDADM RAID1 of external USB 3.0 Drives

Linux-Fan writes: >> On 09/29/2014 12:56 AM, lee wrote: > > I cannot tell much about the reliability of SMART data in general but > should I see a lot of "bad" values suddenly appearing I would > immediately perform some additional backups and check the data more > closely, listen to the drive so

Re: Let's have a vote!

Chris Bannister writes: > On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 11:19:58PM +0200, lee wrote: >> >> Sure is, yet why tell me to make software nobody cares about. > > Maybe to keep you busy? Ah yes, that could be the reason :)) -- Hallowed are the Debians! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ..

Re: sound recording

Ста Деюс writes: > Доброго времени суток, Doug. > > > Спасибо за ответ, Sun, 21 Sep 2014 11:32:38 -0400 вы писали: >> > I use debian jessie and sound recording in audacity or skype does >> > not work. > > [...] > > Same here. But before buying anything - that is not good in general, i > would sug

Re: Let's have a vote!

Ansgar Burchardt writes: > lee writes: >> As I already said: try to get squid 2.7 started and stopped by systemd >> on a current Fedora installation. > > This is not the Fedora users list. And how is this relevant? Will Debian provide their own version of systemd which is completely different

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

Reco writes: > About the only thing that I'm missing here is why would anyone should > compile anything on a production server, Xen's dom0 specifically (as it > seems to be the main lee's concern). I didn't have a server back then --- and software to run on my computer which worked fine until so

Re: Let's have a vote!

Mart van de Wege writes: > lee writes: > >> "Karl E. Jorgensen" writes: >> >>> * not doing "crazy things", like running backports or >>> testing/unstable [2], and no grabbing *.debs from weird places. >> >> Debian isn't as stable as you like to think. I am required to run the >> latest kerne

Re: Let's have a vote!

PaulNM writes: > On 09/28/2014 05:25 PM, Joe wrote: >> On Sun, 28 Sep 2014 11:01:24 -0500 >> John Hasler wrote: >> >> >> An upgraded system is not necessarily identical to a new installation, > > [...] > > It's more that Debian tries not to change things unless you ask it to. > For example, if

Re: Let's have a vote!

Chris Bannister writes: > On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 10:38:18PM +0200, lee wrote: >> Ric Moore writes: >> >> > On 09/27/2014 02:49 PM, lee wrote: >> > >> >> Just ask yourself: Why would someone choose to download an ISO for >> >> Debian? >> > >> > For me, it's the safest way to install/upgrade. I

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

Reco writes: > What's wrong with the current multiarch implementation in your option? > I'm really curious as all multiarch complains I've seen so far (barring > actual package limits) were easily solved just by reading an appropriate > man page (or Debian wiki page). > And, IMO, Debian's current

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

Ansgar Burchardt writes: > If you don't want to use Debian then don't. But if you don't even want > to use it, making lots of complaints about it seems uncalled for... There is a difference between using something because it works and using something because you want to use it. In none of the c

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

On 09/28/2014 09:28 AM, Nate Bargmann wrote: * On 2014 28 Sep 08:23 -0500, Liam Proven wrote: On 27 September 2014 03:45, Joel Rees wrote: edumaction? I saw that and checked the headers, because what you are writing here seems a bit out of character. If this is a spoof, the headers are done be

Re: Part 2 - updating squeeze to wheezy

On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 05:39:20PM -0400, John Lindsay wrote: > Thank you Clive for your reply. Here are my settings now after doing > the change to my sources.list: > > >uname -a shows: > >Linux debian 3.2.0-4-686-pae #1 SMP Debian 3.2.60-1+deb7u3 i686 GNU/Linux > > >lsb_release -a shows > >No

Re: Trying to upgrade bash on squeeze, running into errors

Hi Don, Thanks for the help! It looks like the diversion does exist, so doesn't look like that's the issue: local diversion of /bin/sh to /bin/sh.distrib I am not wanting to change the default shell, just trying to upgrade bash to close the Shellshock vulnerability. Any further ideas on ho

Cruft (was Re: Let's have a vote!)

In aptitude I am certain to purge any packages that I am removing that I'm sure that I won't be using. I even do this on packages that will be automatically removed upon an upgrade. Every so often I use the Limit display option to search for removed but configured packages and purge those. Anoth

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

On 09/28/2014 06:00 PM, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 01:48:47PM -0700, koanhead wrote: >> On 09/25/2014 05:00 PM, Chris Bannister wrote: >>> On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 03:15:36PM -0700, koanhead wrote: >> I'm aware of BSD-style init, but the mailing-list thread [1] I posted > > [1

Why an mp3 is "Not a JPEG file"

Well, I know that an mp3 is not a JPEG file. But why does it matter to xine (or libav or whatever). This is what I get on stdout when trying to play some random downloaded podcast using xine. [...] [mp3 @ 0xa660260] max_analyze_duration reached [mp3 @ 0xa660260] Estimating duration from bitra

Re: Let's have a vote!

On Mon, 29 Sep 2014 11:58:30 -0400 Steve Litt sent: > Me, I'm personally going to continue fresh installing, because I enjoy > the spring-cleaning aspect of it, and the fact that I'm starting my > new version from a known state. But I'm now aware this is a Steve Litt > quirk, not solid advice for

Re: Racoon

Last state; root@mx04:/etc/racoon# racoonctl show-event reload-config : x.x.x.x[500] -> x.x.x.x[500] Phase 1 deleted : x.x.x.x[500] -> x.x.x.x[500] Phase 1 established : x.x.x.x[500] -> x.x.x.x[500] Phase 1 mode configuration done : x.x.x.x[500] -> x.x.x.x.[500] On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 12:49 AM

Re: apt-get errors

On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 02:20:04PM -0500, John Aten wrote: > Hi all, > > I recently installed Debian Wheezy on an old Dell Inspiron laptop. It's > working pretty well, aside from a few hiccups. One of these happens when > updating. apt-get update returns the following errors: > > Err http://htt

Re: Racoon

In addition to the logs; Sep 29 21:46:02 mx04 racoon: [x.x.x.x] ERROR: couldn't find the pskey for x.x.x.x. │ Sep 29 21:46:02 mx04 racoon: [x.x.x.x] ERROR: failed to process ph1 packet (side: 1, status: 4). │ Sep 29 21:46:02 mx04 racoon: [x.x

Re: Re: funny text in bash history

On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 06:04:18PM +0100, Clive Standbridge wrote: > That's just for starters. Install the bash-completion package, > un-comment the code in ~/.bashrc following the "enable programmable > completion features" comment, and start a new shell. > > Now when you start typing and press

Re: apt-get errors

On Mon, 29 Sep 2014 14:20:04 -0500 John Aten wrote: > Hi all, > > I recently installed Debian Wheezy on an old Dell Inspiron laptop. > It's working pretty well, aside from a few hiccups. One of these > happens when updating. apt-get update returns the following errors: > > Err http://http.us.de

Re: Fwd: Re: cron in UTC?

On Monday 29 September 2014 17:50:59 Tony van der Hoff wrote: > I think you do dpkg-reconfigure tzdata, and select Europe/London. There > is no option for GMT, specifically. Thus you get the twice-yearly hassle > of DST. Ah! I configure localtime via my DE (TDE) and get the option of whether I w

Re: Let's have a vote!

On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 11:58:30AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > Me, I'm personally going to continue fresh installing, because I enjoy > the spring-cleaning aspect of it, and the fact that I'm starting my > new version from a known state. But I'm now aware this is a Steve Litt > quirk, not solid adv

OT: Yahoo Fixed in Iceweasel

Just checked Yahoo's main page and it now displays correctly in Iceweasel. Always displayed properly in Chrome. No more "mobile" look. I didn't do anything. Yahoo corrected it. Just like all the other times it happened over the years with Firefox. Now, if flash would run in Chrome, I'd be happy

Un-muting PulseAudio/ALSA?

I'm having trouble un-muting PulseAudio/ALSA. Can someone give me a reference on how to fix it? Thanks, John BTW, antagonizing the Google for an answer resulted in a multitude of witchcraft solutions, none of which worked. -- John Conover, cono...@rahul.net, http://www.johncon.com/

Re: apt-get errors

On Mon 29 Sep 2014 at 14:20:04 -0500, John Aten wrote: > I recently installed Debian Wheezy on an old Dell Inspiron laptop. > It's working pretty well, aside from a few hiccups. One of these > happens when updating. apt-get update returns the following errors: [Snip] > Is there anything I can d

Re: vsftpd with ssl

On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 10:00:36PM +0200, Marko Randjelovic wrote: > I installed vsftpd on Wheezy and am trying to make it work with ssl (ftps > protocol). snip > Please help me beacuse I have no ideas. All I know about FTP/SSL is that there are a lot of variations of the protocol, such as exactly

vsftpd with ssl

I installed vsftpd on Wheezy and am trying to make it work with ssl (ftps protocol). This is my config file: listen=YES anonymous_enable=NO local_enable=YES dirmessage_enable=YES use_localtime=YES xferlog_enable=YES nopriv_user=ftpsecure secure_chroot_dir=/var/run/vsftpd/empty pam_service_name=vs

Re: Racoon

Hello >What do you get in the logs? >For a "connection" (by which I assume you mean an established tunnel) >to be established, racoon needs to the the handshakes with the other >side - if these fail, there should be traces of it in the >logs. Debian racoon Logs; Sep 29 17:26:57 mx04 rsyslogd-21

apt-get errors

Hi all, I recently installed Debian Wheezy on an old Dell Inspiron laptop. It's working pretty well, aside from a few hiccups. One of these happens when updating. apt-get update returns the following errors: Err http://http.us.debian.org wheezy/non-free i386 Packages 404 Not Found [IP: 128.61.2

Re: Racoon

Hi On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 08:30:31PM +0300, Gokan Atmaca wrote: > Hello > > I want to make using racoon IPSEC connection. My configuration is as > follows. B site RouterOS (Mikrotik) are available. A kind of > connection can not be established. What do you get in the logs? For a "connection" (

Re: How/Where to file a feature request

On Mon 29 Sep 2014 at 12:48:58 -0400, Philippe Clérié wrote: > On 09/27/2014 01:27 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > >I have looked at the bug report, and I would suggest that it may be > >misphrased. Keyboard selection is already in the installer. I always choose > >a standard UK keyboard and would s

Re: Fwd: Re: cron in UTC?

Put your tasks in /etc/crontab and set the system time to UTC. Use each user's TZ variable to set time zones for them. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas

Re: Fwd: Re: cron in UTC?

On 29/09/14 17:13, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Monday 29 September 2014 17:01:31 Tony van der Hoff wrote: well, it's my understanding that the system (hardware) time is always UTC, but there is no way to set localtime to GMT (or UTC). Perhaps I'm misunderstanding you. Erm What do you think we w

Re: Fwd: Re: cron in UTC?

On 29/09/14 17:29, John Hasler wrote: > Tony van der Hoff writes: >> Believe me; I've beaten that man to death, but not found the answer. >> Perhaps you'd like to give a more detailed pointer into that manual? > > See the part about setting environment variables. You should be able to > set TZ=UT

Racoon

Hello I want to make using racoon IPSEC connection. My configuration is as follows. B site RouterOS (Mikrotik) are available. A kind of connection can not be established. Note: IP addresses are shown as examples. WAN sites: 1.1.1.1 LAN sites: 2.2.2.2 B's: 3.3.3.3 B's: 4.4.4.4 - A site config

Re: Fwd: Re: cron in UTC?

Tony van der Hoff writes: > Believe me; I've beaten that man to death, but not found the answer. > Perhaps you'd like to give a more detailed pointer into that manual? See the part about setting environment variables. You should be able to set TZ=UTC . -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwoo

Re: Fwd: Re: cron in UTC?

On 29/09/14 17:30, Don Armstrong wrote: > On Mon, 29 Sep 2014, Tony van der Hoff wrote: >>> On Wed, 24 Sep 2014 11:54:57 +0100 >> On 24/09/14 16:01, Don Armstrong wrote: >>> My #1 suggestion is to have system time be GMT, and every shell/user set >>> TZ appropriately. That's basically the only sane

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

Reco wrote: Hi. On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 11:42:36AM -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote: About the only thing that I'm missing here is why would anyone should compile anything on a production server, Xen's dom0 specifically (as it seems to be the main lee's concern). I do it all the time. Packaging

Re: Let's have a vote!

Steve Litt wrote: On Mon, 29 Sep 2014 11:45:13 -0400 Stephen Allen wrote: On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 11:29:22AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: On Sun, 28 Sep 2014 23:50:45 +1300 Chris Bannister wrote: On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 09:49:10PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 18:32:38 -0400

Re: Fwd: Re: cron in UTC?

On 29/09/14 17:48, John Hasler wrote: > Tony van der Hoff writes: >> My problem is that cron works to localtime. I want my cron tasks to be >> triggered at the same time (UTC) each day, regardless of the current >> localtime, wherever I may be. > > man 5 crontab > Believe me; I've beaten that man

Re: Let's have a vote!

Stephen Allen wrote: On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 08:22:23AM +0200, Mart van de Wege wrote: lee writes: "Karl E. Jorgensen" writes: * not doing "crazy things", like running backports or testing/unstable [2], and no grabbing *.debs from weird places. Debian isn't as stable as you like to thi

Re: Fwd: Re: cron in UTC?

On 29/09/14 17:13, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Monday 29 September 2014 17:01:31 Tony van der Hoff wrote: >> well, it's my understanding that the system (hardware) time is always >> UTC, but there is no way to set localtime to GMT (or UTC). Perhaps I'm >> misunderstanding you. > > Erm What do you

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 09/29/2014 at 12:03 PM, Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 11:28:55AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: >>> Header files are arch-agnostic, it's the .la files that case >>> all the trouble. >> >> I'm afraid that's not always the case. I've

Re: How/Where to file a feature request

On 09/27/2014 01:27 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Saturday 27 September 2014 17:57:06 Philippe Clérié wrote: Thanks for the tips. Bug filed as #763072. -- Philippe -- The trouble with common sense it that it is so uncommon. I have looked at the bug report, and I would suggest that it may be

Re: Fwd: Re: cron in UTC?

Tony van der Hoff writes: > My problem is that cron works to localtime. I want my cron tasks to be > triggered at the same time (UTC) each day, regardless of the current > localtime, wherever I may be. man 5 crontab -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email t

Re: Fwd: Re: cron in UTC?

Lisi Reisz wrote on 09/29/2014 12:13:48 PM: > On Monday 29 September 2014 17:01:31 Tony van der Hoff wrote: > > well, it's my understanding that the system (hardware) time is always > > UTC, but there is no way to set localtime to GMT (or UTC). Perhaps I'm > > misunderstanding you. > > Erm

Re: Fwd: Re: cron in UTC?

On Mon, 29 Sep 2014, Tony van der Hoff wrote: > > On Wed, 24 Sep 2014 11:54:57 +0100 > On 24/09/14 16:01, Don Armstrong wrote: > > My #1 suggestion is to have system time be GMT, and every shell/user set > > TZ appropriately. That's basically the only sane setting, as many time > > zones do DST (an

Business suggestion

Hey, I had visited your site http://www.debian.org and I was very impressed. I think it would fit my clients' demands perfectly. Let me clarify, my name is Jim and I'm an advertising representative. My job is to find sites like yours, which are willing to sell advertising space to my clients. So

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

Hi. On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 11:42:36AM -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote: > >About the only thing that I'm missing here is why would anyone should > >compile anything on a production server, Xen's dom0 specifically (as it > >seems to be the main lee's concern). > > I do it all the time. Packaging of

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

Hi. On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 11:28:55AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > > Header files are arch-agnostic, it's the .la files that case all > > the trouble. > > I'm afraid that's not always the case. I've encountered specific cases > where the headers are different between architectures. Hmm. Kernel

Re: Gnome 3.14 keyboard shortcut question--Solved

Thanks much. Tom On Sep 29, 2014 8:46 AM, "Michael Ott" wrote: > Hi Tom! > > > System: up to date Debian Testing, 64 bit, Gnome 3.14 > > > > I'm trying Gnome again after several years of using Fluxbox and need > > some help with creating a custom keyboard shortcut. I'm using 8 > > workspaces an

Re: installing xfce theme manager

On Monday 29 September 2014 16:29:48 Michael Fothergill wrote: > It's not always obvious which packages > you can use apt with and which you have to compile. You can use apt with packages which are in the repositories. You can find this out with or equivalent or by looking on https://www.debia

Re: Fwd: Re: cron in UTC?

On Monday 29 September 2014 17:01:31 Tony van der Hoff wrote: > well, it's my understanding that the system (hardware)  time is always > UTC, but there is no way to set localtime to GMT (or UTC). Perhaps I'm > misunderstanding you. Erm What do you think we who live near Greenwich do??? Lisi

Fwd: Re: cron in UTC?

Sorry, sent to steve instead of list by mistake Original Message Subject: Re: cron in UTC? Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2014 16:18:35 +0100 From: Tony van der Hoff To: Steve Litt > On Wed, 24 Sep 2014 11:54:57 +0100 > Tony van der Hoff wrote: > >> Greetings, >> >> I carry my wheezy la

Re: Let's have a vote!

On Mon, 29 Sep 2014 11:45:13 -0400 Stephen Allen wrote: > On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 11:29:22AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > > On Sun, 28 Sep 2014 23:50:45 +1300 > > Chris Bannister wrote: > > > > > On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 09:49:10PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > > > > On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 18:32:38 -040

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

Reco wrote: Hi. On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 07:50:21AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 09/29/2014 at 05:49 AM, Reco wrote: Hi. On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 04:31:01PM +0200, lee wrote: Debian already lost me (after over 15 years) when they came up wi

Re: Let's have a vote!

On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 11:29:22AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > On Sun, 28 Sep 2014 23:50:45 +1300 > Chris Bannister wrote: > > > On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 09:49:10PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > > > On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 18:32:38 -0400 > > > > Yes. I'm a huge believer in wiping and reinstalling major

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 09/29/2014 at 10:49 AM, Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 07:50:21AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: >> On 09/29/2014 at 05:49 AM, Reco wrote: >>> What's wrong with the current multiarch implementation in your >>> option? I'm really cu

Re: Let's have a vote!

On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 08:22:23AM +0200, Mart van de Wege wrote: > lee writes: > > > "Karl E. Jorgensen" writes: > > > >> * not doing "crazy things", like running backports or > >> testing/unstable [2], and no grabbing *.debs from weird places. > > > > Debian isn't as stable as you like to th

Re: installing xfce theme manager

Oh, then I am afraid you misunderstood. I would sugest building it from source as indicated here . I will go ahead and do that. Thank you very much for the advice. It's not always obvious which packages you can use apt with and which you have

Re: Bluetooth mouse? (Solved)

On Mon, 29 Sep 2014 10:08:02 +0200 Johann Spies wrote: > Apologies for the noise. Playing again with blueman-manager I found > an option 'create paring' and after that I could connect to the mouse > and it is working now. > > Regards > Johann Johann, Great to hear you got it fixed. What's the

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

Hi. On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 07:50:21AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > On 09/29/2014 at 05:49 AM, Reco wrote: > > > Hi. > > > > On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 04:31:01PM +0200, lee wrote: > > > >> Debian already lost me (after over 15 years) when th

Re: installing xfce theme manager

Hi. On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 02:14:42PM +0100, Michael Fothergill wrote: > Dear Debian folks, > > I have been trying to install xfce theme manager (I am running Debian Jessie > on an AMD 64 box). > > I found a web site > > https://launchpad.net/~rebuntu16/+archive/ubuntu/other-stuff/+sourcepub

Re: installing xfce theme manager

Oh, then I am afraid you misunderstood. I would sugest building it from source as indicated here . On 29/09/2014 10:24, Michael Fothergill wrote: Hi I believe XFCE is already included in debian repository. Have you tried following the ins

Re: installing xfce theme manager

Hi I believe XFCE is already included in debian repository. Have you tried following the instruction described here ? Thank you for your reply I already have xfce installed. But I assumed (maybe I am wrong) that xfce-theme-manager - 0.3.5-1 is not automatically in

Re: systemd and server use

Steve Litt wrote at 2014-09-28 22:04 -0500: > On Sun, 28 Sep 2014 18:10:52 -0500 green wrote: > > Microkernels, as I understand, aim to support a highly modular system > > *design* but are themselves minimal (Minix 3 has about 4000 lines of > > executable kernel code). This "core code" can be mor

Re: installing xfce theme manager

On 29/09/2014 09:14, Michael Fothergill wrote: Dear Debian folks, I have been trying to install xfce theme manager (I am running Debian Jessie on an AMD 64 box). I found a web site https://launchpad.net/~rebuntu16/+archive/ubuntu/other-stuff/+sourcepub/4038858/+listing-archive-extra

Re: Let's have a vote!

lee writes: > "Karl E. Jorgensen" writes: > >> * not doing "crazy things", like running backports or >> testing/unstable [2], and no grabbing *.debs from weird places. > > Debian isn't as stable as you like to think. I am required to run the > latest kernel from backports for otherwise my ser

installing xfce theme manager

Dear Debian folks, I have been trying to install xfce theme manager (I am running Debian Jessie on an AMD 64 box). I found a web site https://launchpad.net/~rebuntu16/+archive/ubuntu/other-stuff/+sourcepub/4038858/+listing-archive-extra where there appeared to be some packages that may may not

Re: Gnome 3.14 keyboard shortcut question

Hi Tom! > System: up to date Debian Testing, 64 bit, Gnome 3.14 > > I'm trying Gnome again after several years of using Fluxbox and need > some help with creating a custom keyboard shortcut. I'm using 8 > workspaces and successfully created keyboard shortcuts for workspaces > 1-4 using Settings-

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