Zenaan Harkness writes:
> There are tiers of users.
>
> There's the users who are not developers.
> There's the users who are developers.
> Then there's me.
>
> Since I am at the top of the hierarchy,
Uh, you are from down under, aren't you?
That could explain this perfectly.
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koanhead writes:
> On 08/10/2014 10:30 AM, Steve Litt wrote:
>
> For the record, in case anyone is interested, I'm writing this from a
> Jessie box without systemd. It's easy to make this happen, and it works
> just fine as long as you don't use GNOME or MATE, possibly KDE, or those
> functi
On Sat, 9 Aug 2014 16:26:40 -0400
Steve Litt wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Some of the reasons I switched my desktop from Ubuntu to Debian were:
>
> 1) To do more config by editor and less by magical binary program.
>
> 2) To get rid of gratuitous boot gunge (in this case Plymouth)
>
> 3) To get close
Bret Busby wrote:
With Squeeze now being LTS until 2016 and also oldstable too, what will
Wheezy be when Jessie goes stable, how do you think it's going to be
handled?
Does that last post, mean that "Jessie" is the version of Debian, that
comes after Debian 7.x?
Wheezy is the current sta
On 8/10/14, Slavko wrote:
> Ahoj,
> Dňa Sat, 9 Aug 2014 23:49:37 +0100 Brian napísal:
>> On Sat 09 Aug 2014 at 16:47:54 -0400, AW wrote:
>> > On Sat, 9 Aug 2014 16:26:40 -0400
>> > Steve Litt wrote:
>> > > Hi all,
>> > >
>> > > Some of the reasons I switched my desktop from Ubuntu to Debian
>
On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Chris Bannister
wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 09:37:24AM +0200, Slavko wrote:
>>
>> I consider these posts as not OT. Consider Debian social contract:
>
> Think again.
>
>
>> Our priorities are our users and free software
>>
>> We will be guided by the needs of
On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 09:37:24AM +0200, Slavko wrote:
>
> I consider these posts as not OT. Consider Debian social contract:
Think again.
> Our priorities are our users and free software
>
> We will be guided by the needs of our users and the free software
^
Mon, 11 Aug 2014 05:44:18 +
Any tips on using SEM India DNA-A201 modem in bridge mode?
Modem has adsl and ppp commands. No man pages.
All attempts lead to dangling IP address (wan IP) reachable only from
localhost.
> adsl
Usage: adsl start [--up] [--mod ] [--lpair <(i)nner|(o)uter>]
On Sat, Aug 09, 2014 at 11:10:00PM +0300, Georgi Naplatanov wrote:
> On 08/09/2014 03:00 PM, Quentin Bourgeois wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 08/09/2014 11:36 AM, Georgi Naplatanov wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi everybody,
> >>
> > Hi,
> >
> >> I wonder if it is possible to enable/disable TCP fast open for IPv6
> >
On 11/08/14 05:48, Ethan Rosenberg wrote:
Dear List -
I am having trouble w/ dd. I am sure that it is probably a stupid mistake.
Anyway..,.
/dev/sdb [500 G external USB drive] has one partition /dev/sdb1 which is
mounted on /media/lin50
I wish to copy /var/www to the USB drive.
I have tried
On Sat, Aug 09, 2014 at 03:56:14PM -0400, AW wrote:
> On Sat, 09 Aug 2014 15:24:49 -0400
> Gary Dale wrote:
>
> > Assuming you have both a backup copy and a live copy plus some par2
> > files, you should be safe with the 5% to 10% I suggested.
>
> If going with an external backup and pars...
Hi.
On Mon, 11 Aug 2014 00:48:29 -0400
Ethan Rosenberg wrote:
> Dear List -
>
> I am having trouble w/ dd. I am sure that it is probably a stupid mistake.
You've made four mistakes indeed.
> root@meow:/var# dd if=/var/www of=/dev/sdb1/ bs=2048
> dd: failed to open ‘/dev/sdb1/’: Is a direc
On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 20:19:00 -0700
koanhead wrote:
> On 08/10/2014 10:30 AM, Steve Litt wrote:
>
> >
> > ... I have a philosophical problem with systemd, I suspect it will
> > cause problems, my fallback is OpenBSD (or maybe Debian/kFreeBSD,
> > thanks Reco)
>
> For the record, in case anyone
Dear List -
I am having trouble w/ dd. I am sure that it is probably a stupid mistake.
Anyway..,.
/dev/sdb [500 G external USB drive] has one partition /dev/sdb1 which is
mounted on /media/lin50
I wish to copy /var/www to the USB drive.
I have tried:
root@meow:/var# dd if=/var/www of=/de
On Mon, 11 Aug 2014, Francesco Ariis wrote:
On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 10:34:21PM -0400, david...@ling.ohio-state.edu wrote:
| $ gpgv --keyring /usr/share/keyrings/debian-keyring.gpg -vv -- SHA512SUMS.sign
| gpgv: armor: BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE
| gpgv: armor header: Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux)
Hi Jimmy.
Thank you for your reply. But please see below for comments.
On Sun, 10 Aug 2014, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
david...@ling.ohio-state.edu wrote:
Good {evening,morning,afternoon}, fellow anglophones.
I am running Wheezy, and I plan to prepare a debian live cd using this
file:
http://cd
On 11/08/2014, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
> Sven Hartge wrote:
>> Gábor Hársfalvi wrote:
>>
>>> I wish to know when will be the final release of Debian Jessie.
>>
>> The soft-freeze will be in September. The hard-freeze is planned for
>> December, AFAIK. The release will be sometimes after that, probab
On 11/08/2014, Brian wrote:
> On Sun 10 Aug 2014 at 14:55:23 -0400, Tom Roche wrote:
>
>> Having recently received the Skype email requiring reinstall with new
>> version, I'd like to learn more about available, working substitutes
>> for Skype for D7/wheezy, possibly current testing/jessie, and m
On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 10:34:21PM -0400, david...@ling.ohio-state.edu wrote:
> | $ gpgv --keyring /usr/share/keyrings/debian-keyring.gpg -vv --
> SHA512SUMS.sign
> | gpgv: armor: BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE
> | gpgv: armor header: Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux)
> | :signature packet: algo 1, keyid DA
On 08/10/2014 10:30 AM, Steve Litt wrote:
>
> ... I have a philosophical problem with systemd, I suspect it will
> cause problems, my fallback is OpenBSD (or maybe Debian/kFreeBSD,
> thanks Reco)
For the record, in case anyone is interested, I'm writing this from a
Jessie box without systemd. It
On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 13:36:43 +0300
David Baron wrote:
> With Grub, I did not see that endless stream of text pouring on the
> screen to rapidly to read.
>
> Because I (presumably) know how to configure it, I have gone back to
> lilo. Now have all that text back. Is there an append= or lilo.conf
david...@ling.ohio-state.edu wrote:
Good {evening,morning,afternoon}, fellow anglophones.
I am running Wheezy, and I plan to prepare a debian live cd using this
file:
http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/amd64/iso-hybrid/debian-live-7.6.0-amd64-standard.iso
Before doing this, h
Good {evening,morning,afternoon}, fellow anglophones.
I am running Wheezy, and I plan to prepare a debian live cd using this
file:
http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/amd64/iso-hybrid/debian-live-7.6.0-amd64-standard.iso
Before doing this, however, I would like to verify the auth
Lisi Reisz wrote:
> I had understood that Debian is in this, as in many things, different from
> most Linux distros. Things may get developed at e.g. GSOC, but none-the-less
> the developers are not in general paid for their Debian work. (Though they
> may be e.g. Ubuntu developers as well.)
Man
On Fri, 08 Aug 2014, Sharon Kimble wrote:
> Thanks Norbert, that's the definitive answer that I was looking for, and
> I shall wait as suggested. :)
Next upload is planned for about the 25 August, after the holidays
here in Japan are over.
All the best
Norbert
-
On Sun, 10 Aug 2014, Richard Owlett wrote:
> My goal: understand Debian from a fairly low level on up
> Environment: a laptop dedicated exclusively as a learning environment
> Resources: complete DVD sets for Squeeze and Wheezy (totally
> isolated from internet ;)
>
> History:
> When initi
Sven Hartge wrote:
Gábor Hársfalvi wrote:
I wish to know when will be the final release of Debian Jessie.
The soft-freeze will be in September. The hard-freeze is planned for
December, AFAIK. The release will be sometimes after that, probably in
the spring.
As always: it will be ready when
On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 4:40 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Sunday 10 August 2014 18:53:58 Doug wrote:
>> Unless Debian is different from most
>> Linux distros, a good portion of the software is written by paid
>> developers. I don't know who pays them, but it is nevertheless true.
>
> I had understoo
On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 20:10:56 +0100
Joe wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 14:14:53 -0400
> Celejar wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 18:22:41 +0400
> > Reco wrote:
> >
> > > Hi.
> > >
> > > On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 17:09:58 +0300
> > > Martin T wrote:
> > >
> > > > Reco,
> > > >
> > > > thanks for t
On Sun, 10 Aug 2014, Russ Allbery wrote:
> To take a step back, I think this is a fair summary of the discussion.
> Please let me know if you disagree:
...
I agree to all points. It is a fair summary.
> I think you've convinced me that the approach of stopping a socket by the
> same name when s
Lisi, there is no free (of charge) beer. While the distribution is packaged by
volunteers - and it's not a small task - not all the code comes from volunteer
work o by-product of another work. And many sistem tools come from paid work,
included the infamous systemd.
Debian is not perfect and ne
Installed pdnsd on Debian Wheezy. Edited /etc/defaults/pdnsd to
START_DAEMON=yes. /etc/pdnsd.conf defaults to resolveconf. pdnsd doesn't
start on boot. cat /var/log/syslog |grep pdnsd says the following:
Aug 10 13:27:01 Lion-PC pdnsd[3209]: pdnsd-1.2.8-par starting.
Aug 10 13:29:03 Lion-PC pdn
Floris wrote:
Op Sun, 10 Aug 2014 19:02:42 +0200 schreef Hugo Vanwoerkom
:
Floris wrote:
Op Sun, 10 Aug 2014 15:49:38 +0200 schreef Hugo Vanwoerkom
:
...
'Tis amazing. I am going to have to try this because I have the
hardware lying around. Any further links are welcome. Thanks!
I for
Felix Natter wrote:
> I've seen
> sed: -e expression #1, char 6: unknown command: `m'
> when updating my testing system:
> sed: -e expression #1, char 6: unknown command: `m'
> /etc/modprobe.d/dkms.conf updated to replace obsoleted module references:
> --- /tmp/dkms.1s8k9O/dkms.conf.new 20
On Sunday 10 August 2014 13:27:44 Steve Litt wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 13:36:43 +0300
>
> David Baron wrote:
> > With Grub, I did not see that endless stream of text pouring on the
> > screen to rapidly to read.
> >
> > Because I (presumably) know how to configure it, I have gone back to
> >
On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 16:07:01 -0400
Tom H wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Nemeth Gyorgy
> wrote:
> > 2014-08-10 11:33 keltezéssel, Pascal Hambourg írta:
> >>
> >> Nemeth Gyorgy's ruleset is too complicated. Use the bare minimum :
> >>
> >> sysctl -w net.ipv4.ip_forward=1
> >> iptables -
Erwan David wrote:
> Le 10/08/2014 20:05, Sven Hartge a écrit :
>> Gábor Hársfalvi wrote:
>>> I wish to know when will be the final release of Debian Jessie.
>> The soft-freeze will be in September. The hard-freeze is planned for
>> December, AFAIK. The release will be sometimes after that, pro
Hi.
On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 14:25:35 -0400
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> I don't think the x86 architecture provides ANY hardware enumeration.
> The processor couldn't care less. It's all about ports and interrupts.
Yup. CPU is the ignorant one. Now, BIOS (or UEFI), on the other hand -
they DO know hard
On 8/11/14, b-m...@gmx.ch wrote:
> On Saturday 09 August 2014 11.11:08 Gary Dale wrote:
>>
>> To preserve your archive, I'd advise PAR2 redundancy files to fix any
>> problems that may crop up. So long as your HD copies are good, you don't
>> need to go to the PAR2 files, but should one develop a
On Sun 10 Aug 2014 at 20:39:06 +0100, Brian wrote:
> First on the reading list is tasksel(8). Then the output of
>
>tasksel -t --task-packages standard | less
>
> on an existing Wheezy. The displayed list has a few mentions of exim. On
Without the standard system utilities having been asked
On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Nemeth Gyorgy wrote:
> 2014-08-10 11:33 keltezéssel, Pascal Hambourg írta:
>>
>> Nemeth Gyorgy's ruleset is too complicated. Use the bare minimum :
>>
>> sysctl -w net.ipv4.ip_forward=1
>> iptables -t nat -P ACCEPT
>> iptables -t filter -P ACCEPT
>
> This is really
On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 2:12 PM, Erwan David wrote:
>
> PS: and I am still waiting for the replacement of policy-rc.d
We know; you've complained here more than once.
Have you filed a bug report?
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On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 01:00:02 +0200
Brian wrote:
> honestly, does anyone care why any user chose
> to change from Ubuntu or if their expectations were met?
A skillful writer might weave a soap opera around the unsettling notions of
systemd
yet always there, an undercurrent of optimism inherent t
On Sunday 10 August 2014 18:53:58 Doug wrote:
> Unless Debian is different from most
> Linux distros, a good portion of the software is written by paid
> developers. I don't know who pays them, but it is nevertheless true.
I had understood that Debian is in this, as in many things, different from
On Sun 10 Aug 2014 at 18:03:07 +0100, Joe wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 10:46:56 -0500
> Richard Owlett wrote:
>
> > What should I be reading to understand:
> >1. what would be minimal set of programs to install?
>
> It depends how enthusiastic you are. I tend to make a netinstall of
> stabl
Op Sun, 10 Aug 2014 20:15:55 +0200 schreef Doug :
...
'Tis amazing. I am going to have to try this because I have the
hardware lying around. Any further links are welcome. Thanks!
Hugo
I would think that you ought to have some extra ram in the machine if
you're going to do this, isn't th
On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 15:23:06 -0400
Tom H wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 10:26 AM, The Wanderer
> wrote:
> > On 08/10/2014 10:15 AM, Tom H wrote:
> >> On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 9:29 AM, The Wanderer
> >> wrote:
> >>> On 08/10/2014 09:26 AM, Tom H wrote:
>
> halt/poweroff/reboot have ca
On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 10:26 AM, The Wanderer wrote:
> On 08/10/2014 10:15 AM, Tom H wrote:
>> On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 9:29 AM, The Wanderer
>> wrote:
>>> On 08/10/2014 09:26 AM, Tom H wrote:
halt/poweroff/reboot have called shutdown at least since
6/squeeze.
>>>
>>> Ah, so that m
On Sun 10 Aug 2014 at 14:55:23 -0400, Tom Roche wrote:
> Having recently received the Skype email requiring reinstall with new
> version, I'd like to learn more about available, working substitutes
> for Skype for D7/wheezy, possibly current testing/jessie, and maybe
> even more robust bits of sid
On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 14:14:53 -0400
Celejar wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 18:22:41 +0400
> Reco wrote:
>
> > Hi.
> >
> > On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 17:09:58 +0300
> > Martin T wrote:
> >
> > > Reco,
> > >
> > > thanks for this explanation! Could you please explain this
> > > hardware enumeration pr
Having recently received the Skype email requiring reinstall with new version,
I'd like to learn more about available, working substitutes for Skype for
D7/wheezy, possibly current testing/jessie, and maybe even more robust bits of
sid. (For brevity, I'll refer to that collectively as "D7++".)
On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 14:15:08 -0400
Cindy-Sue Causey wrote:
> On 8/10/14, Steve Litt wrote:
> >
> > The next time I reinstall, I'm moving to LILO too. LOL, but me, I
> > love that text stream, so no append="quiet" for me. :-)
>
>
> I started to *snark* something along the lines of that it's whe
2014-08-10 19:51 keltezéssel, Gábor Hársfalvi írta:
> Dear List,
>
> I wish to know when will be the final release of Debian Jessie.
>
> Thanks
When it is ready.
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On 8/10/2014 2:39 AM, Reco wrote:
> Hi.
>
> On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 04:40:05 +0300
> Martin T wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> according to wiki, Debian is supported on little-endian ARM
>> architecture. However, then wiki lists some sub-architectures which
>> are supported. For example iop32x, ixp4xx, kirkwo
2014-08-10 11:33 keltezéssel, Pascal Hambourg írta:
> Nemeth Gyorgy's ruleset is too complicated. Use the bare minimum :
>
> sysctl -w net.ipv4.ip_forward=1
> iptables -t nat -P ACCEPT
> iptables -t filter -P ACCEPT
This is really a big sechole.
> iptables -t mangle -P ACCEPT
> iptables -t nat -
2014-08-10 01:49 keltezéssel, Mike McClain írta:
>> It's a rather complicated, sometimes overcomplicated script. But some
>> rules are missing and/or not in the correct order.
>
> I've little doubt you are correct, admittedly I'm flailing a bit.
> Trying this and that with little luck.
> I'd appre
On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 11:33:27AM +0200, Pascal Hambourg wrote:
>
> Nemeth Gyorgy's ruleset is too complicated. Use the bare minimum :
>
> sysctl -w net.ipv4.ip_forward=1
> iptables -t nat -P ACCEPT
> iptables -t filter -P ACCEPT
> iptables -t mangle -P ACCEPT
> iptables -t nat -F
> iptables -t fi
On Saturday 09 August 2014 11.11:08 Gary Dale wrote:
>
> To preserve your archive, I'd advise PAR2 redundancy files to fix any
> problems that may crop up. So long as your HD copies are good, you don't
> need to go to the PAR2 files, but should one develop a problem, you can
> fix it with the PAR2
On 08/10/2014 09:42 AM, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
Floris wrote:
Op Sun, 10 Aug 2014 11:16:58 +0200 schreef Floris :
Op Sun, 10 Aug 2014 04:32:00 +0200 schreef Hugo Vanwoerkom
:
Could you elaborate? You mean that if you connect, lets say a ps/2
keyboard and an USB keyboard, 2 Nvidia video
On 8/10/14, Steve Litt wrote:
>
> The next time I reinstall, I'm moving to LILO too. LOL, but me, I love
> that text stream, so no append="quiet" for me. :-)
I started to *snark* something along the lines of that it's when those
lines of text STOP that the real fun begins then realized... that's
On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 18:22:41 +0400
Reco wrote:
> Hi.
>
> On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 17:09:58 +0300
> Martin T wrote:
>
> > Reco,
> >
> > thanks for this explanation! Could you please explain this hardware
> > enumeration provided by x86/x86-64 CPU's to kernel bit more? What kind
> > of information
Le 10/08/2014 20:05, Sven Hartge a écrit :
> Gábor Hársfalvi wrote:
>
>> I wish to know when will be the final release of Debian Jessie.
> The soft-freeze will be in September. The hard-freeze is planned for
> December, AFAIK. The release will be sometimes after that, probably in
> the spring.
>
>
On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 13:08:27 -0400
Steve Litt wrote:
> Is Debian/kFreeBSD ready for prime time yet?
Depends on your definition of a prime time.
Debian security team updates Debian/kFreeBSD the same time they update
all Linux architectures.
The bad part is - hardware support is the same as of Fr
Gábor Hársfalvi wrote:
> I wish to know when will be the final release of Debian Jessie.
The soft-freeze will be in September. The hard-freeze is planned for
December, AFAIK. The release will be sometimes after that, probably in
the spring.
As always: it will be ready when it's ready. It all de
On 08/10/2014 04:37 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Sunday 10 August 2014 08:37:24 Slavko wrote:
I consider these posts as not OT.
No-one said that they were OT. Merely that this list is about Debian in
general, not only systemd, and the subject has been done to death.
If some of you don't like it,
Dear List,
I wish to know when will be the final release of Debian Jessie.
Thanks
The Wanderer wrote:
> Bob Proulx wrote:
> > If you don't need CDPATH then try unsetting it.
>
> Is CDPATH used at all by pushd / popd? I don't see any indication of
> that in bash(1), but since cd itself isn't involved here AFAICT,
> bringing up CDPATH wouldn't seem to make sense otherwise.
Well
On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 10:46:56 -0500
Richard Owlett wrote:
> My goal: understand Debian from a fairly low level on up
> Environment: a laptop dedicated exclusively as a learning environment
> Resources: complete DVD sets for Squeeze and Wheezy (totally
> isolated from internet ;)
>
> Histor
Sorry about the delay in responding.
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh writes:
> Large time outs can cause bad side-efects on surprising ways. If the
> socket is down, you get an immediate connection refused reply, which
> short-circuits the time out.
> As this is a generic feature, we could be talk
Op Sun, 10 Aug 2014 19:02:42 +0200 schreef Hugo Vanwoerkom
:
Floris wrote:
Op Sun, 10 Aug 2014 15:49:38 +0200 schreef Hugo Vanwoerkom
:
...
'Tis amazing. I am going to have to try this because I have the
hardware lying around. Any further links are welcome. Thanks!
I forgot to ask:
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA512
On 08/10/2014 01:20 PM, Bob Proulx wrote:
> Tony van der Hoff wrote:
>
>> Unfortunately the pushd/popd generate a lot of (mostly) unwanted
>> output, with no apparent way of suppressing it.
>
> Do you have CDPATH set? If CDPATH is set then there
On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 13:36:43 +0300
David Baron wrote:
> With Grub, I did not see that endless stream of text pouring on the
> screen to rapidly to read.
>
> Because I (presumably) know how to configure it, I have gone back to
> lilo. Now have all that text back. Is there an append= or lilo.conf
Le 10/08/2014 19:23, Steve Litt a écrit :
> On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 06:35:54 -0400
> Tom H wrote:
>
>
>> Olav Vitters, a Gnome guy who always argues on behalf of Gnome/systemd
>> on debian-devel@ (I don't think that he's involved in Debian in any
>> other way), has said on his blog "it seems eventuall
On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 06:35:54 -0400
Tom H wrote:
> Olav Vitters, a Gnome guy who always argues on behalf of Gnome/systemd
> on debian-devel@ (I don't think that he's involved in Debian in any
> other way), has said on his blog "it seems eventually GNOME will head
> to be systemd and Linux-only"
Tony van der Hoff wrote:
> Unfortunately the pushd/popd generate a lot of (mostly) unwanted output,
> with no apparent way of suppressing it.
Do you have CDPATH set? If CDPATH is set then there is ambiguity over
where the cd actually went since it may be one of the CDPATH
components. If so the s
On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 10:26:22 +0200
Tony van der Hoff wrote:
> On 09/08/14 22:26, Steve Litt wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Some of the reasons I switched my desktop from Ubuntu to Debian
> > were:
> >
> > 1) To do more config by editor and less by magical binary program.
> >
> > 2) To get rid of g
On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 09:37:10 +0100
Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Sunday 10 August 2014 08:37:24 Slavko wrote:
> > I consider these posts as not OT.
>
> No-one said that they were OT. Merely that this list is about Debian
> in general, not only systemd, and the subject has been done to death.
Which is
Jörg-Volker Peetz a écrit :
>
> And what is the meaning of "Go"?
Giga-octet.
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On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 10:51:30 +0400
Reco wrote:
> Hi.
>
> On Sat, 9 Aug 2014 16:26:40 -0400
> Steve Litt wrote:
>
> > Within months of my switch, oops, here comes systemd.
>
> Consider switching to the Debian/kFreeBSD. It's the same Debian, yet
> there won't be no systemd in the foreseeable f
On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 10:46:56 -0500
Richard Owlett wrote:
> My goal: understand Debian from a fairly low level on up
> Environment: a laptop dedicated exclusively as a learning environment
> Resources: complete DVD sets for Squeeze and Wheezy (totally
> isolated from internet ;)
>
> Histor
Floris wrote:
Op Sun, 10 Aug 2014 15:49:38 +0200 schreef Hugo Vanwoerkom
:
...
'Tis amazing. I am going to have to try this because I have the
hardware lying around. Any further links are welcome. Thanks!
I forgot to ask: is systemd also necessary?
Hugo
you need loginctl, so the answer
On Sun 10 Aug 2014 at 10:46:56 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
[Snip}
> What should I be reading to understand:
> 1. what would be minimal set of programs to install?
"minimal" can mean different things to different people and different
things to the same person at different times. Narrowing down
On Sat, Aug 09, 2014 at 10:30:53PM -0600, Bob Proulx wrote:
> Mike McClain wrote:
> > Pascal Hambourg wrote:
> > > Please describe your network topology. Where's the Win2k box ?
> >
> > __
> > | Debian|
Suggestion to do:
du / -hx --max-depth=1
(this doesn't show the mount points like /home or /sys)
If this does not add up to the size of the root partition, then
mount --bind / /mnt
du /mnt -hx --max-depth=1
If this adds up to approximately the size of the root partition, there's
something
Op Sun, 10 Aug 2014 15:49:38 +0200 schreef Hugo Vanwoerkom
:
...
'Tis amazing. I am going to have to try this because I have the
hardware lying around. Any further links are welcome. Thanks!
I forgot to ask: is systemd also necessary?
Hugo
you need loginctl, so the answer is yes, you
On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 11:16:17AM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Lu, 04 aug 14, 14:58:15, Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
> > I'm still not sure why it isn't in testing at
> > the moment,
>
> http://tracker.debian.org/encfs and click on the question mark next to
>
> The package has not entered testi
My goal: understand Debian from a fairly low level on up
Environment: a laptop dedicated exclusively as a learning environment
Resources: complete DVD sets for Squeeze and Wheezy (totally
isolated from internet ;)
History:
When initially moving from Windows to Debian, installed Squeeze
w
On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 10:50:42 -0400
Gary Dale wrote:
> Your results...
The test was only a very simple comparison. If you want a more thorough test,
it's certainly much better to break everything out the way you have listed...
and it's probably best done on the chosen and completed hardware con
Hi.
On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 17:03:20 +0200
Tony van der Hoff wrote:
> DEBUG=1
> if [ $DEBUG -eq 0 ]; then
> NULLOUT='>/dev/null'
> fi
> pushd $dir ${NULLOUT}; do_something; popd ${NULLOUT}
>
Try it like this:
#DEBUG=1
OUT=/dev/null
[ -z "$DEBUG" ] && OUT=/dev/stdout
pushd $dir > $OUT; do_
Hi,
In my shell (bash) scripts, I occasionally use pushd/popd to descend
into subdirectories;
pushd $dir; do_something; popd
Unfortunately the pushd/popd generate a lot of (mostly) unwanted output,
with no apparent way of suppressing it.
So, my solution is:
pushd $dir >/dev/null; do_something;
On 10/08/14 07:14 AM, Sven Hartge wrote:
David Baron wrote:
On my previous 32-bit system, I would get fsck run on filesystems
every so-many mounts. Was using ext3 with some ext4 extensions. Could
take a bit on multi- hundred gig partitions but assumed a necessity to
keep things playing.
On my
On Sunday 10 August 2014 15:50:29 Stefan Monnier wrote:
> > If some of you don't like it, write the software you want. Or pay
> > someone to write it. But enough already.
>
> Doesn't guarantee that Debian will decide to use it.
No - but the individuals concerned can.
> I think the right way is
On Saturday 09 August 2014 21:42:32 Iain M Conochie wrote:
> I find it interesting that you feel more in control of a privately
> funded corporation than a legitimate arm of a sovereign government. It
> is obvious what the NSA want to do (snoop), I'm not so sure what google
> want to do.
>
> Almost
On 09/08/14 06:02 PM, AW wrote:
On Sat, 09 Aug 2014 16:37:52 -0400
Gary Dale wrote:
> The speed of the check is usually limited by the speed of reading the
> file(s) from disk. A par2 check is more direct and will also
> automatically repair any bit rot that has developed.
Definitely not
> If some of you don't like it, write the software you want. Or pay
> someone to write it. But enough already.
Doesn't guarantee that Debian will decide to use it.
I think the right way is to submit bug-reports about particular problems
you find in systemd. Maybe that won't cause a change to s
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On 08/10/2014 10:15 AM, Tom H wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 9:29 AM, The Wanderer
> wrote:
>
>> On 08/10/2014 09:26 AM, Tom H wrote:
>>> halt/poweroff/reboot have called shutdown at least since
>>> 6/squeeze.
>>
>> Ah, so that may be a Debian
Hi.
On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 17:09:58 +0300
Martin T wrote:
> Reco,
>
> thanks for this explanation! Could you please explain this hardware
> enumeration provided by x86/x86-64 CPU's to kernel bit more? What kind
> of information is provided to kernel in case of x86/x86-64 CPU?
Sure:
1) Obtain an
On 09/08/14 08:32 PM, David Christensen wrote:
On 08/09/2014 12:24 PM, Gary Dale wrote:
However I can see you wanting them to be
out of the way. par2 actually puts them in the current directory unless
you tell it differently so you could for example do:
cd /mnt/datadrive/.par2/stuff
par2 c
On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 9:29 AM, The Wanderer wrote:
> On 08/10/2014 09:26 AM, Tom H wrote:
>> On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 8:46 AM, The Wanderer
>> wrote:
>>> On 08/10/2014 02:45 AM, Bonno Bloksma wrote:
If halt or reboot is called when the system is not in runlevel
0 or 6, in other
Reco,
thanks for this explanation! Could you please explain this hardware
enumeration provided by x86/x86-64 CPU's to kernel bit more? What kind
of information is provided to kernel in case of x86/x86-64 CPU?
thanks,
Martin
On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 9:39 AM, Reco wrote:
> Hi.
>
> On Sun, 10 Aug
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