Re: After installing systemd, slim fails to load desktop.

2013-11-12 Thread Just_Me
sudo grep 'WW\|EE\|NI\|??' /var/log/Xorg.0.log [15.705] Current Operating System: Linux debian 3.11.4-pf-debian #2 SMP > PREEMPT Sat Nov 2 11:41:38 MYT 2013 x86_64 > (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. > [15.850] (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic"

Re: disks differ after cloning with dd

2013-11-12 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 13/11/13 18:09, Tixy wrote: > On Wed, 2013-11-13 at 10:37 +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote: >> On 13/11/13 01:40, Andre Majorel wrote: > [...] >>> Unfortunately, GNU dd does not have a --progress option but last >>> time I looked, it responded to signal USR1 by writing its >>> current stats on stderr

Re: disks differ after cloning with dd

2013-11-12 Thread Tixy
On Wed, 2013-11-13 at 10:37 +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote: > On 13/11/13 01:40, Andre Majorel wrote: [...] > > Unfortunately, GNU dd does not have a --progress option but last > > time I looked, it responded to signal USR1 by writing its > > current stats on stderr. So you can use ps to find out the

Re: (64-bit) linux 3.10 and nouveau oddity

2013-11-12 Thread Neal Murphy
On Friday, November 08, 2013 06:13:44 AM berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > Le 05.11.2013 21:26, Neal Murphy a écrit : > > Is it fair to say this is a bug? In *something*? Or just an > > incompatibility > > between Wheezy and the newer kernel? > > It is indeed a bug, if it was known to work pr

Re: After installing systemd, slim fails to load desktop.

2013-11-12 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 13/11/13 15:27, Just_Me wrote: > > > On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 11:39 AM, Scott Ferguson [via Debian] <[hidden > email] > wrote: > > On 13/11/13 13:15, Just_Me wrote: > > > Slim freezes doing nothing. I had to use startx to start desktop. > > slim.service is enabled btw. > > >

Re: software for (reminder) recommendation

2013-11-12 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 13/11/13 15:09, lina wrote: > Hi, > > Which package I can be installed which may serve as calender, > > Just remind me when, where and what I need attend or prepare? > > Thanks with best regards, > > What DE are you using (cli tools are available too)? There are lots of great calendars, o

Re: Questions about new hardware & Debian (or Linux in general)

2013-11-12 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 13/11/13 15:21, Jon N wrote: > On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 7:42 PM, Scott Ferguson > wrote: > > -- >> >> Sorry, but UEFI isn't always implemented identically (it's dependant on >> firmware). There are also some issues with installing Debian64 and UEFI. >> >> In every case I'm aware of it's pos

Re: Questions about new hardware & Debian (or Linux in general)

2013-11-12 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 11/12/2013 10:09 PM, Jon N wrote: > On Nov 12, 2013 7:32 PM, "Stan Hoeppner" wrote: >> >> On 11/12/2013 5:37 PM, Jon N wrote: >> ... >>> There is one an area that I'm pretty unsure of. I am planning on >>> purchasing a Nvidia video card and disabling the built in Intel video >>> support. Sinc

Re: software for (reminder) recommendation

2013-11-12 Thread lina
On Wednesday 13,November,2013 12:57 PM, Gregory Nowak wrote: > On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 12:09:37PM +0800, lina wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Which package I can be installed which may serve as calender, >> >> Just remind me when, where and what I need attend or prepare? > > The "when" package works fine for

Re: software for (reminder) recommendation

2013-11-12 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 12:09:37PM +0800, lina wrote: > Hi, > > Which package I can be installed which may serve as calender, > > Just remind me when, where and what I need attend or prepare? The "when" package works fine for me. Greg -- web site: http://www.gregn..net gpg public key: http:/

Re: After installing systemd, slim fails to load desktop.

2013-11-12 Thread Just_Me
this is my second install of systemd. the first went well no issues whatsoever with slim then few days ago my HD went kaput on me so i got the replacement(the same hd model spec everything) both my previous setup and my current are almost identical in the way i setup from netinstall. same apps/driv

No Display was Nvidia Problems

2013-11-12 Thread erosenberg
Dear List After removing all th eNvidia driversd I fouind that I did not have a default window manager. /etc/X11/default-desktop-manager did not exist. so nano   /etc/X11/default-desktop-manager and set the value to /etc/gdm3 dpkg-configure gdm3 service gdm3 start reboot Login scre

Re: Questions about new hardware & Debian (or Linux in general)

2013-11-12 Thread Jon N
On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 7:42 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote: -- > > Sorry, but UEFI isn't always implemented identically (it's dependant on > firmware). There are also some issues with installing Debian64 and UEFI. > > In every case I'm aware of it's possible to install Debian, but some > cases cal

Re: Questions about new hardware & Debian (or Linux in general)

2013-11-12 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 11/12/2013 7:11 PM, Doug wrote: > On 11/12/2013 07:32 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: >> On 11/12/2013 5:37 PM, Jon N wrote: >> ... >>> There is one an area that I'm pretty unsure of. I am planning on >>> purchasing a Nvidia video card and disabling the built in Intel video >>> support. Since I plan

Re: Questions about new hardware & Debian (or Linux in general)

2013-11-12 Thread Jon N
On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 7:33 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote: > > I'd just narrow down the hardware you're looking for as you've done then > pick a specific example of a board the features it - then search for > debian support for that board (I usually do that in store on my phone > unless I'm ordering

software for (reminder) recommendation

2013-11-12 Thread lina
Hi, Which package I can be installed which may serve as calender, Just remind me when, where and what I need attend or prepare? Thanks with best regards, -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian

Re: Questions about new hardware & Debian (or Linux in general)

2013-11-12 Thread Jon N
On Nov 12, 2013 7:32 PM, "Stan Hoeppner" wrote: > > On 11/12/2013 5:37 PM, Jon N wrote: > ... > > There is one an area that I'm pretty unsure of. I am planning on > > purchasing a Nvidia video card and disabling the built in Intel video > > support. Since I plan to use this computer as a MythTV

Re: After installing systemd, slim fails to load desktop.

2013-11-12 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 13/11/13 13:15, Just_Me wrote: > Slim freezes doing nothing. I had to use startx to start desktop. > slim.service is enabled btw. > > $ systemctl status slim > - > > slim.service - LSB: Start/stop the SLiM daemon. >Loaded: loaded (/etc/init.d/sli

After installing systemd, slim fails to load desktop.

2013-11-12 Thread Just_Me
Slim freezes doing nothing. I had to use startx to start desktop. slim.service is enabled btw. $ systemctl status slim - slim.service - LSB: Start/stop the SLiM daemon. Loaded: loaded (/etc/init.d/slim) Active: active (running) since Wed 2013-11-1

Re: who uses dual boot? [was: How to start using a free OS]

2013-11-12 Thread Alois Mahdal
On Wed, 13 Nov 2013 00:59:02 + José Silva wrote: > He probably has an OEM SLP license, married to a key in the > original machine bios, which won't work in the VM because it > obviously has a different bios that doesn't have the key. > I think there are ways of overcoming this, inserting the

Re: who uses dual boot? [was: How to start using a free OS]

2013-11-12 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 13/11/13 11:59, José Silva wrote: > On 13/11/13 00:26, Scott Ferguson wrote: >> On 13/11/13 09:10, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >>> On Tue, 2013-11-12 at 21:36 +0100, Alois Mahdal wrote: 1.8GHz dual core and 4G RAM attempting Win XP in VBox for even the most simple tasks was a royal PITA.

Re: Why Debian

2013-11-12 Thread André Nunes Batista
On Sun, 2013-11-10 at 02:36 -0600, Conrad Nelson wrote: > Please understand I think FOSS is EXTREMELY IMPORTANT and VERY high > quality. I certainly appreciate it myself as a programmer. My point is > more toward the usability and perception issues that often plague many > Linux distributions, d

Re: Questions about new hardware & Debian (or Linux in general)

2013-11-12 Thread Doug
On 11/12/2013 07:32 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: On 11/12/2013 5:37 PM, Jon N wrote: ... There is one an area that I'm pretty unsure of. I am planning on purchasing a Nvidia video card and disabling the built in Intel video support. Since I plan to use this computer as a MythTV frontend/backend (a

Re: who uses dual boot? [was: How to start using a free OS]

2013-11-12 Thread José Silva
On 13/11/13 00:26, Scott Ferguson wrote: On 13/11/13 09:10, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Tue, 2013-11-12 at 21:36 +0100, Alois Mahdal wrote: 1.8GHz dual core and 4G RAM attempting Win XP in VBox for even the most simple tasks was a royal PITA. Then something is fishy. (Also one reason to keep the

Re: Questions about new hardware & Debian (or Linux in general)

2013-11-12 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 13/11/13 01:57, Jon N wrote: > On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 1:23 AM, Scott Ferguson > wrote: >> On 12/11/13 09:03, Jon N wrote: >>> Hi, >> >>> >>> I guess one of the 1st issues I might have to deal with is UEFI, since >>> if there are any issues with that it could show up when trying to >>> insta

Re: Questions about new hardware & Debian (or Linux in general)

2013-11-12 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 13/11/13 10:37, Jon N wrote: > I did a search for Debian and Haswell (plus a couple of related > searches) and found several helpful things. One was several posts on > Phoronx (including > http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTM5MzU) that > suggest support is pretty good. I have

Re: Questions about new hardware & Debian (or Linux in general)

2013-11-12 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 11/12/2013 5:37 PM, Jon N wrote: ... > There is one an area that I'm pretty unsure of. I am planning on > purchasing a Nvidia video card and disabling the built in Intel video > support. Since I plan to use this computer as a MythTV > frontend/backend (as well as for general web browsing/email

Re: who uses dual boot? [was: How to start using a free OS]

2013-11-12 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 13/11/13 09:10, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Tue, 2013-11-12 at 21:36 +0100, Alois Mahdal wrote: >> 1.8GHz dual core and 4G RAM >> attempting Win XP in VBox for even the most simple >> tasks was a royal PITA. > > Then something is fishy. > >> (Also one reason to keep the Win in the dual-boot manne

Re: Questions about new hardware & Debian (or Linux in general)

2013-11-12 Thread Jon N
I did a search for Debian and Haswell (plus a couple of related searches) and found several helpful things. One was several posts on Phoronx (including http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTM5MzU) that suggest support is pretty good. I have found several other posts on some Forums

Re: disks differ after cloning with dd

2013-11-12 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 13/11/13 01:40, Andre Majorel wrote: > On 2013-11-11 15:06 +0100, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > >> I do not remember having seen so much unused space on first disk. >> Could dd have written stuff there, when I only asked it to read >> there? > > dd writing to the argument of if= would

Re: Procedure to uninstall nvidia drivers and restore nouveau

2013-11-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-11-12 at 21:17 +, Alex Naysmith wrote: > Thank you all for the sed regex explanation. What possible kernel > variations other than 'generic' are possible to require the sed > substitution? I guess there isn't a kernel named "generic" available by Debian repositories and the name e

Re: who uses dual boot? [was: How to start using a free OS]

2013-11-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-11-12 at 21:36 +0100, Alois Mahdal wrote: > 1.8GHz dual core and 4G RAM > attempting Win XP in VBox for even the most simple > tasks was a royal PITA. Then something is fishy. > (Also one reason to keep the Win in the dual-boot manner is that > I have a valid OEM license there, which

Re: [OT?] What's wrong with my exim4 configuration?

2013-11-12 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 09:39:55AM +0200, Itay wrote: > I don't remember editing /etc/mailname by hand; 'dpkg -S' says it's > not owned by any debian package. > So how this file gets its content? It was created when you installed exim, and would be changed when running dpkg-reconfigure exim4-confi

Re: who uses dual boot? [was: How to start using a free OS]

2013-11-12 Thread Alois Mahdal
Hi, On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 08:32:55 -0500 Miles Fidelman wrote: > Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > On Tue, 2013-11-12 at 23:01 +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > >>> Install a Linux and call it Windows 2014 - super > >>> professional special admin edition and this kind of user > >>> will have no issue, call it

Re: Procedure to uninstall nvidia drivers and restore nouveau

2013-11-12 Thread Alex Naysmith
Thank you all for the sed regex explanation. What possible kernel variations other than 'generic' are possible to require the sed substitution? After some googling, I've discovered that I'm actually compiling the nvidia driver and hence the business with the Linux header. On 12 November 2013 07:

Re: who uses dual boot? [was: How to start using a free OS]

2013-11-12 Thread Shane Johnson
I have to dual boot my laptop and home computer. As I prefer to run Debian as my desktop, there are some things that just aren't worth he hassle of running in a VM since I already have the Windows 7 running. I originally loaded my home system with Windows cause I was gaming at the time and now t

Re: who uses dual boot? [was: How to start using a free OS]

2013-11-12 Thread Neal Murphy
On Tuesday, November 12, 2013 03:06:23 PM Nemeth Gyorgy wrote: > 2013-11-12 14:32 keltezéssel, Miles Fidelman írta: > > That's a very interesting point, but I wonder if it's true. There are > > real-world reasons to run both windows on linux on the same machine > > (personal example: running Linux

Re: Why Debian

2013-11-12 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 11 nov 13, 15:09:31, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > > Mine have only two reply functions ( roundcube ): Really? Your User-Agents says Thuderbird :) > "reply to" which reply only to sender > "reply to all" which, for the ml, reply to the whole ml. > > It sounds like a pretty good

Re: who uses dual boot? [was: How to start using a free OS]

2013-11-12 Thread Nemeth Gyorgy
2013-11-12 14:32 keltezéssel, Miles Fidelman írta: > That's a very interesting point, but I wonder if it's true. There are > real-world reasons to run both windows on linux on the same machine > (personal example: running Linux on my laptop for development and > demonstrations; running Windows for

Re: who uses dual boot? [was: How to start using a free OS]

2013-11-12 Thread José Silva
On 12/11/13 13:32, Miles Fidelman wrote: Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Tue, 2013-11-12 at 23:01 +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote: Install a Linux and call it Windows 2014 - super professional special admin edition and this kind of user will have no issue, call it Linux and they will ask you to remove it a

Re: who uses dual boot? [was: How to start using a free OS]

2013-11-12 Thread Joe
On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 08:32:55 -0500 Miles Fidelman wrote: > > > But, having said that, when one really uses two operating systems on > the same machine, I expect it's more common to run one under > virtualization, so you can run both at the same time - dual booting > is a real pain if one is real

Re: Why Debian

2013-11-12 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 09 nov 13, 23:15:52, Lisi Reisz wrote: > I rapidly realised, however, that there is a very simple solution. I > open the box, insert an old ethernet card, do my network installation, > load the drivers for the card(s) belonging to the box, remove the old > card. There's a netinstall CD

Re: who uses dual boot? [was: How to start using a free OS]

2013-11-12 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 12 nov 13, 08:32:55, Miles Fidelman wrote: > > What are other people's experiences? How many folks here use > Windows (or Mac o/s) on the same machine as a linux distribution? Do > you dual-boot or do you virtualize? My brother was dual booting between Windows and Debian, mainly due to A

Re: disk cloning ?

2013-11-12 Thread David Christensen
On 11/11/2013 09:31 PM, hadi motamedi wrote: How can I check for [LVM, encryption, etc.] ? 'parted --list' provides some information. See cryptsetup(8) for encrypted partitions. See lvm(8) for LVM. See mdadm(8) for kernel software RAID. David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-

Re: Questions about SIGHUP behavior

2013-11-12 Thread David F
On 11/12/2013 07:35 AM, Steffen Dettmer wrote: Debian 7.2 with /bin/bash as login shell (via /etc/passwd), shopt huponexit off (as by default), bash run via SSH from other host. When closing shell with CTRL-D, "sleep &" continues to run. I had expected I had to use nohup, setsid, disown or a com

apache2 + munin configuration

2013-11-12 Thread rudu
Hi, Well, I wouldn't have thought having so many difficulties setting up a simple monitoring system on my Jessie amd64 desktop, but after a few hours wandering the net, I guess I could use some guidance ... What I've done so far : aptitude install apache2 munin munin-node ii apache2

Re: disk cloning ?

2013-11-12 Thread David Christensen
On 11/11/2013 09:25 PM, hadi motamedi wrote: How to partition it ? I use parted(8). David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/52825c6c.5060...@holger

Re: disk cloning ?

2013-11-12 Thread David Christensen
On 11/11/2013 09:28 PM, hadi motamedi wrote: Here is the output : #parted -list disk /dev/hda 21.5GB sector : 512B/512B partition : msdos disk : /dev/sdb 40GB sector : 512B/512B partition : msdos error: unable to open /dev/md0 unrecognized disk label. We need to see the shell prompt, the comman

Re: What to do when not understanding man pages?

2013-11-12 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 05 nov 13, 07:28:24, Richard Owlett wrote: > > My problem with the dpkg-scanpackages man pages is that I don't seem > to be able to apply it correctly to my situation. I wish to have a > local repository whose structure mimics the distribution DVDs. ... > Directory structure is: > /media/re

Re: local repo

2013-11-12 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 30 oct 13, 13:55:38, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > One day I plan to learn dak (or whatever it's now called), for even > more control over my local repo(s). AFAIK dak (Debian Archive Kit) is tailor-made for the Debian infrastructure, which is why it's not even packaged. You should probably

How to configure udev to rename USB network cards correctly

2013-11-12 Thread Steffen Dettmer
Hi, we have USB network cards and udev rules for them, for example: SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", ATTRS{manufacturer}=="Novatel Wireless*", ATTRS{serial}=="?*", NAME="ethnovatel%n" when booting, we see e.g., "ethnovatel3" and "ethnovatel4", as expected. When unplugging/replugging (or power c

Re: disks differ after cloning with dd

2013-11-12 Thread Russell Powers
> On November 12, 2013 at 9:40 AM Andre Majorel wrote: > > Unfortunately, GNU dd does not have a --progress option but last > time I looked, it responded to signal USR1 by writing its > current stats on stderr. So you can use ps to find out the PID > of your dd(1) process then kill -USR1 from ti

Re: who uses dual boot? [was: How to start using a free OS]

2013-11-12 Thread Russell Powers
> On November 12, 2013 at 8:32 AM Miles Fidelman > wrote: > What are other people's experiences? How many folks here use Windows > (or Mac o/s) on the same machine as a linux distribution? Do you > dual-boot or do you virtualize? Besides needing Windows for work and applications that aren't port

Re: Questions about new hardware & Debian (or Linux in general)

2013-11-12 Thread Jon N
On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 1:23 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote: > On 12/11/13 09:03, Jon N wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I have been a Debian user for I'd guess 7 or 8 years now. I would >> like to thank all of you that helped create a system that is so >> useful. Despite using it for so long I am far from a power

Re: disks differ after cloning with dd

2013-11-12 Thread Andre Majorel
On 2013-11-11 15:06 +0100, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > I do not remember having seen so much unused space on first disk. > Could dd have written stuff there, when I only asked it to read > there? dd writing to the argument of if= would be a bug. A major one. > 2: the 2 disks are USB d

Re: who uses dual boot? [was: How to start using a free OS]

2013-11-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Oops: > During iOS updates VBox is a PITA, because I need to reconnect VBox's ^for the iPad > virtual USB connection several times, I anyway never installed it to > the real XP install on my machine. ^iTunes -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-

Re: who uses dual boot? [was: How to start using a free OS]

2013-11-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Miles, I completely agree with you. My doubts regarding a multi-boot Windows/Linux are related to beginners who used Windows only for years. When I switched from other computers to a PC I installed both, Windows and Linux. I was a very experienced coder on other computers, so the situation is dif

Re: SSD as Cache?

2013-11-12 Thread basti
On 09.11.2013 02:19, David Christensen wrote: > On 11/08/2013 12:12 PM, basti wrote: >> Sorry, >> /sbin/udevadm info --query=property --name=sdb |grep ID_MODEL >> ID_MODEL=M4-CT128M4SSD2 >> MTBF 1,2 Mio h = 50 days = 136,98 years >> Drive Endurance 72TB=40GB per day for 5 years >> I will try t

Re: who uses dual boot? [was: How to start using a free OS]

2013-11-12 Thread Paul Cartwright
On 11/12/2013 08:32 AM, Miles Fidelman wrote: > But, having said that, when one really uses two operating systems on > the same machine, I expect it's more common to run one under > virtualization, so you can run both at the same time - dual booting is > a real pain if one is really USING both oper

who uses dual boot? [was: How to start using a free OS]

2013-11-12 Thread Miles Fidelman
Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Tue, 2013-11-12 at 23:01 +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote: Install a Linux and call it Windows 2014 - super professional special admin edition and this kind of user will have no issue, call it Linux and they will ask you to remove it and reinstall Windows again. I agree :) T

Re: How to start using a free OS (was: Why Debian)

2013-11-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-11-12 at 14:09 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Tue, 2013-11-12 at 23:01 +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > > Install a Linux and call it Windows 2014 - super professional special > > > admin edition and this kind of user will have no issue, call it Linux > > > and they will ask you to r

Re: How to start using a free OS (was: Why Debian)

2013-11-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-11-12 at 23:01 +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > Install a Linux and call it Windows 2014 - super professional special > > admin edition and this kind of user will have no issue, call it Linux > > and they will ask you to remove it and reinstall Windows again. > > I agree :) > > This

Mailman memory usage after dist-upgrade

2013-11-12 Thread Daniel Galambos
Hi, I recently upgraded a maillist server from Squeeze to Wheezy. We had no problem with it until the upgrade. In 1-2 weeks mailman's OutgoingRunner and BounceRunner processes eat all the memories and a lot of swap. The box has 1,5GB RAM and 2G swap. Mailman version is: 1:2.1.15-1 There are 2 li

Re: "reset" perms and ownerships

2013-11-12 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 23 oct 13, 20:57:30, Bob Proulx wrote: > > The dlocate command is a > fast indexed 'dpkg -S' command. You will likely need to 'apt-get > install dlocate' to have it but it is so much faster than 'dpkg -S' > that it is very useful to install. Cool! Thanks for the tip, Andrei -- http://w

Questions about SIGHUP behavior

2013-11-12 Thread Steffen Dettmer
Hi, Debian 7.2 with /bin/bash as login shell (via /etc/passwd), shopt huponexit off (as by default), bash run via SSH from other host. When closing shell with CTRL-D, "sleep &" continues to run. I had expected I had to use nohup, setsid, disown or a combination of them in order to keep background

Re: How to start using a free OS (was: Why Debian)

2013-11-12 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 11/12/13, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Tue, 2013-11-12 at 10:19 +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote: >> On 11/12/13, David F wrote: >> > On 11/10/2013 10:17 AM, thomas aylward wrote: >> >> how does a novice begin with debian? Tom >> >> > The reason why I bring this up is that when a user tries to switch

Re: High quality HDPE LDPE

2013-11-12 Thread Iris
Dear Sir, Good day! We had dealing plastic raw materials for many years . And supplied high quality different grade HDPE/LDPE/PP/PET to our old and new customers. Should any of the items be of interest to you, please let me know. We shall be glad to give you our lowest quotations upon receip

Re: Blacklisting threads

2013-11-12 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 20 oct 13, 11:02:53, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > I know how to blacklist a person via Gmail, but not how to nullfile a > thread! Well, Gmail can filter by subject but this will not catch subject changes, so you'll have to create a new filter at each subject change. This may or may not be what

Re: Recovering my USB-Key content

2013-11-12 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 18 oct 13, 11:21:58, Jean-Marc wrote: > Hi the list, > > The partition table of my USB-key has gone and I got some read-error > messages. > > I recovered the files stored on it using photorec but it is a little > bit a raw-recover splitted into generic directories with generic > names. >

Re: Procedure to uninstall nvidia drivers and restore nouveau

2013-11-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-11-12 at 07:56 +, Alex Naysmith wrote: > linux-headers-$(uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,') It does complete the name "linux-headers-". Run echo $(uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,') or uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,' to see what it does add. "uname -r" does show the kernel relea

Re: disk cloning ?

2013-11-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2013-11-11 at 21:25 -0800, hadi motamedi wrote: > >Sounds like you didn't partition the destination drive? Correct, the OP didn't: On Mon, 2013-11-11 at 21:28 -0800, hadi motamedi wrote: > Here is the output : > #parted -list > disk /dev/hda 21.5GB >

Re: OT: Permission issue

2013-11-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2013-11-11 at 16:57 -0700, Bob Proulx wrote: > FreeBSD seems to be slightly more complicated by having a binary form > of the /etc/passwd file that must be compiled after changes to it are > made. (I didn't know that.) That binary compilation step seems to > have added confusion there. N

Re: How to start using a free OS (was: Why Debian)

2013-11-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-11-12 at 10:19 +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On 11/12/13, David F wrote: > > On 11/10/2013 10:17 AM, thomas aylward wrote: > >> how does a novice begin with debian? Tom > > > The reason why I bring this up is that when a user tries to switch from a > > proprietary OS to a free OS,

Re: Procedure to uninstall nvidia drivers and restore nouveau

2013-11-12 Thread PaulNM
On 11/12/2013 02:56 AM, Alex Naysmith wrote: > From the nvidia install procedure is the following command: > > # aptitude -r install linux-headers-$(uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,') > nvidia-kernel-legacy-173xx-dkms > > I can see the pipe | symbol and the regular expressions but I don't > really

Re: harddrive spins down and up again after 5s

2013-11-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
> On 11/11/2013 7:42 AM, patrick wrote: > > shouldnt gvfs show up in mount? > > also, it looks like gvfs is pretty essential to gnome 3, how much work > > did you do to create a replacement packet? I'm a Xfce user and can remove it, because it's not a hard dependency. For thunar it's recommended