Re: Advice on system purchase

2012-10-30 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 10/30/2012 8:01 AM, John Hasler wrote: > Stan Hoeppner writes: >> No, I mean millions [of ARM cpus]. One billion chips per year would >> equal 1 for every 7 humans on the planet, and that's simply >> impossible. Over 3 billion people have never used an electronic >> device. That's almost half

Re: Advice on system purchase

2012-10-30 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 10/30/2012 7:19 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Lu, 29 oct 12, 21:06:36, Stan Hoeppner wrote: >> >> The second big reason is that neither Microsoft nor ISVs will profit >> from a non x86 CPU architecture entering the desktop space. Supporting >> ARM would simply cost them money. So there's no i

Re: Advice on system purchase

2012-10-30 Thread Charles Kroeger
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 23:50:02 +0100 Stan Hoeppner wrote: > If enough people buy AMD then Intel has a strong competitor. This keeps > the marketplace healthy and keeps Chipzilla from becoming a total > monopoly WRT x86. Thanks for your ecologically sound hardware suggestions you generously share

Re: compiling a Debian package

2012-10-30 Thread lee
Chris Bannister writes: > On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 09:06:37PM +0100, lee wrote: >> Tom H writes: >> >> > Andrei called d-m.o deprecated because, AFAIK, most of the packages in >> > d-m.o are now available in d.o. >> >> Cinelerra is not in Debian, and I haven't been able to compile it, so >> the

Re: compiling a Debian package

2012-10-30 Thread lee
Andrei POPESCU writes: > On Ma, 30 oct 12, 21:09:51, lee wrote: >> >> You're ignoring that you cannot run 32bit apps on amd64 anymore --- >> support for that has been removed and they want to force users to switch >> to brokenarch which doesn't work. > > Firstly, you could have specified that in

Re: compiling a Debian package

2012-10-30 Thread lee
Andrei POPESCU writes: > On Ma, 30 oct 12, 21:23:48, lee wrote: >> Tom H writes: >> >> > Thanks. I'm not worried. I was just curious what Lee's misunderstanding >> > was... >> >> It's not my misunderstanding. Since a while, 32bit support is gone with >> no way to get it back, and if I didn't

how to prevent dvd drives from being polled

2012-10-30 Thread lee
Hi, how do I prevent the dvd drives from being polled by udisks-daemon? I can kill the process and it becomes a zombie, and I'd rather get rid of it. This polling is something I really don't need or want! What else like this is going on, and how do I disable it? -- Debian testing iad96 broke

Re: motion: problem finding codec

2012-10-30 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 09:12:45PM -0400, H.S. wrote: > On 10/21/2012 08:12 AM, Chris Bannister wrote: > > On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 10:12:45PM -0400, H.S. wrote: > >> > >> Here is what appears to have changed since my last night's upgrade: > >> > >> [UPGRADE] ffmpeg:amd64 7:0.11.1-dmo5 -> 7:1.0-dmo1

Re: motion: problem finding codec

2012-10-30 Thread H.S.
On 10/21/2012 08:12 AM, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 10:12:45PM -0400, H.S. wrote: >> >> Here is what appears to have changed since my last night's upgrade: >> >> [UPGRADE] ffmpeg:amd64 7:0.11.1-dmo5 -> 7:1.0-dmo1 >> [UPGRADE] gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg:amd64 0.10.13-5 -> 1:0.10.13-dm

Re: compiling a Debian package

2012-10-30 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 09:06:37PM +0100, lee wrote: > Tom H writes: > > > Andrei called d-m.o deprecated because, AFAIK, most of the packages in > > d-m.o are now available in d.o. > > Cinelerra is not in Debian, and I haven't been able to compile it, so > the only source for it is dmo. You ca

Re: xrandr dual-screen question

2012-10-30 Thread Wolf Halton
+1 for arandr. I use it on a similar laptop/spare monitor set-up. Wolf Halton http://sourcefreedom.com Apache developer: wolfhal...@apache.org On Oct 30, 2012 4:04 PM, "Sébastien Kalt" wrote: > Hi, > > 2012/10/16 Roman V.Leon. > >> Hello all. >> I use dual monitor configuration on my notebook.

Re: Wheezy Driver for Intel RMS25CB080 RAID Controller

2012-10-30 Thread Gunnar Schaefer
I got it to work with "acpi=off" on Ubuntu 12.04. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/8e94dd82-4044-4b8c-b0a9-8c46630bc...@stanford.edu

Re: compiling a Debian package

2012-10-30 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 30 oct 12, 21:09:51, lee wrote: > > You're ignoring that you cannot run 32bit apps on amd64 anymore --- > support for that has been removed and they want to force users to switch > to brokenarch which doesn't work. Firstly, you could have specified that instead of broad statements like "3

Re: compiling a Debian package

2012-10-30 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 30 oct 12, 21:23:48, lee wrote: > Tom H writes: > > > Thanks. I'm not worried. I was just curious what Lee's misunderstanding > > was... > > It's not my misunderstanding. Since a while, 32bit support is gone with > no way to get it back, and if I didn't have a 64bit alternative that > h

Re: Advice on system purchase

2012-10-30 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 10/30/2012 4:16 AM, Joe wrote: > On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 23:02:58 -0500 > Stan Hoeppner wrote: >> No, I mean millions. One billion chips per year would equal 1 for >> every 7 humans on the planet, and that's simply impossible. Over 3 >> billion people have never used an electronic device. That'

Re: dpkg --set-selections

2012-10-30 Thread john
On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 17:02:18 -0400 Wayne Topa wrote: =On 10/29/2012 04:25 PM, jon@gmail.com wrote: => I am having trouble with the following: => => $ dpkg --get-selections>list (this appears to work okay) => => but: => => # dpkg --set-selections => The command gives an error which is repeated

Works on .htaccess but not in sites-available

2012-10-30 Thread Jorge
Good evening. I've got apache2 on squeeze. In /var/www/www.etxea.org/htdocs/.htaccess I've got the following content ... IndexIgnore * RewriteEngine on # Any HTTP request other than those for index.php, images, and robots.txt is treated as a request for your index.php file RewriteCond

Re: Advice on system purchase

2012-10-30 Thread lee
Stan Hoeppner writes: > most of the time, and a faster CPU doesn't make Thunderbird or Firefox, > IE or Outlook express, go any faster. Nor any of the standard desktop > apps. Sure it does. > 90% of users would benefit more from a low wattage dual or even > single core CPU, with an SSD instead

Re: compiling a Debian package

2012-10-30 Thread lee
Tom H writes: > Andrei called d-m.o deprecated because, AFAIK, most of the packages in > d-m.o are now available in d.o. Cinelerra is not in Debian, and I haven't been able to compile it, so the only source for it is dmo. You can't even watch a DVD with what's in Debian. > (What do you mean by

Re: Advice on system purchase

2012-10-30 Thread lee
Worrier Poet writes: > It seems that it is a good point that, computer power vs power > consumption considerations aside, it's a good idea to at least consider > AMD when choosing a new system. For a graphics card? ATI cards have always been horribly troublesome. I'd be willing to try an AMD gr

Re: compiling a Debian package

2012-10-30 Thread lee
Andrei POPESCU writes: > Don't worry, it's just FUD. It's unlikely that i386 (as in the Debian > architecture) will go away before the release of Jessie and even > afterwards, it will probably stay around as a "partial architecture", > which is a possibility introduced by multiarch. > > Suppor

Re: compiling a Debian package

2012-10-30 Thread lee
Tom H writes: > Thanks. I'm not worried. I was just curious what Lee's misunderstanding was... It's not my misunderstanding. Since a while, 32bit support is gone with no way to get it back, and if I didn't have a 64bit alternative that half-way works, I wouldn't have Debian anymore. -- Debia

Re: xrandr dual-screen question

2012-10-30 Thread Sébastien Kalt
Hi, 2012/10/16 Roman V.Leon. > Hello all. > I use dual monitor configuration on my notebook. One screen is notebook's > screen and second screen is just an external monitor with different > resolution, which connected to notebook via VGA cable. All settings were > made with help of "xrand" util,

Re: Advice on system purchase

2012-10-30 Thread Celejar
On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 23:02:58 -0500 Stan Hoeppner wrote: > On 10/29/2012 9:17 PM, Celejar wrote: > > On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 21:06:36 -0500 > > Stan Hoeppner wrote: > > > >> On 10/29/2012 6:08 PM, Celejar wrote: > >> > >>> Interesting. Google shows that there was a thread on /. a year ago > >>> abou

Re: Advice on system purchase

2012-10-30 Thread Worrier Poet
On 10/30/2012 11:48 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Tuesday 30 October 2012 15:38:07 Worrier Poet wrote: >> I knew that AMD had bought one of the purveyors of expensive graphics >> cards that I had terrible problems with. I took 1 plus 1 and came up >> with Avagadro's number. > > They have surely been

Re: Advice on system purchase

2012-10-30 Thread Celejar
On Tue, 30 Oct 2012 12:56:25 +0100 Tony van der Hoff wrote: > On 30/10/12 05:02, Stan Hoeppner wrote: ... > > It's simple economics: If one could make a decent amount of profit > > pushing an ARM based desktop CPU into the market, they'd do it. They > > haven't done it, nor will do it, becaus

Re: Advice on system purchase

2012-10-30 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 30 October 2012 15:38:07 Worrier Poet wrote: > I knew that AMD had bought one of the purveyors of expensive graphics > cards that I had terrible problems with. I took 1 plus 1 and came up > with Avagadro's number. They have surely been improving since AMD bought them up? Lisi -- To

Re: Advice on system purchase

2012-10-30 Thread Worrier Poet
On 10/30/2012 11:25 AM, Mark Allums wrote: > On 10/29/2012 1:43 PM, Worrier Poet wrote: >> On 10/29/2012 02:15 PM, Martin Steigerwald wrote: >>> Am Sonntag, 28. Oktober 2012 schrieb Stan Hoeppner: On 10/28/2012 4:38 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Sb, 27 oct 12, 22:27:30, Stan Hoeppner wrot

Re: Advice on system purchase

2012-10-30 Thread Mark Allums
On 10/29/2012 1:43 PM, Worrier Poet wrote: On 10/29/2012 02:15 PM, Martin Steigerwald wrote: Am Sonntag, 28. Oktober 2012 schrieb Stan Hoeppner: On 10/28/2012 4:38 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Sb, 27 oct 12, 22:27:30, Stan Hoeppner wrote: Coming from a 2800+ which is a ~60 watt CPU, and given

Re: compiling a Debian package

2012-10-30 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 7:55 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Lu, 29 oct 12, 18:42:46, Tom H wrote: >> Andrei called d-m.o deprecated because, AFAIK, most of the packages in >> d-m.o are now available in d.o. > > I don't remember doing that... I'm sorry. I could've sworn that I'd a post of yours

Re: OT: A question about bash scripting

2012-10-30 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 30 Oct 2012 08:58:31 +0100, Chris Davies wrote: done=$(date +%s) month=$(date --date @$done +%B) mon=$(date --date @$done +%b) d_y_t=$(date --date @$done +'/%d/%Y %T') I agree, good idea. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subj

Re: Advice on system purchase

2012-10-30 Thread John Hasler
Stan Hoeppner writes: > At this point in time, and in the foreseeable, the only way to crack > into the desktop market is with a new x86 chip that has sufficiently > compelling advantages over both Intel and AMD. And since one must > have a license from Intel to do so, that ain't gonna happen. Th

Re: Advice on system purchase

2012-10-30 Thread John Hasler
Stan Hoeppner writes: > No, I mean millions [of ARM cpus]. One billion chips per year would > equal 1 for every 7 humans on the planet, and that's simply > impossible. Over 3 billion people have never used an electronic > device. That's almost half the Earth's population. Do the math. >From <

Re: Advice on system purchase

2012-10-30 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 29 oct 12, 21:06:36, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > > The second big reason is that neither Microsoft nor ISVs will profit > from a non x86 CPU architecture entering the desktop space. Supporting > ARM would simply cost them money. So there's no incentive to support > ARM, thus it's dead before i

Re: Advice on system purchase

2012-10-30 Thread Tony van der Hoff
On 30/10/12 05:02, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > On 10/29/2012 9:17 PM, Celejar wrote: >> On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 21:06:36 -0500 >> Stan Hoeppner wrote: >> >>> On 10/29/2012 6:08 PM, Celejar wrote: >>> Interesting. Google shows that there was a thread on /. a year ago about the question of ARM on t

Re: compiling a Debian package

2012-10-30 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 29 oct 12, 18:42:46, Tom H wrote: > > Andrei called d-m.o deprecated because, AFAIK, most of the packages in > d-m.o are now available in d.o. I don't remember doing that... > (What do you mean by "remove 32bit support"?) Don't worry, it's just FUD. It's unlikely that i386 (as in the De

Re: plugin-containe high CPU

2012-10-30 Thread Darac Marjal
On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 10:39:29AM +0200, Mark Panen wrote: > On 30/10/2012 08:33, Jochen Spieker wrote: > >Mark Panen: > >>What is the story with plugin-containe? Every distro i have ever > >>used it eventually eats your CPU usuage? including: > >It's a Firefox/Iceweasel process that runs browser

Re: how to get graphics in fbcodecor enabled kernel ?

2012-10-30 Thread Darac Marjal
On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 11:03:36AM +0530, J. B wrote: > > Hello list, > > I have compiled kernel 3.6.3 with fbcondecor patch. How can I now display > images at terminal background ? Looking at the fbcondecor site[1], you probably want to investigate the fbcondecor_helper program. Alternatively,

Re: screensaver occasionally stops running (squeeze, gnome)

2012-10-30 Thread Jon Dowland
Argh. I recall having similar problems. It might be the screensaver process segfaulting. Is there anything useful in ~/.xsession-errors? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http:/

Re: plugin-containe high CPU

2012-10-30 Thread Jochen Spieker
Mark Panen: > On 30/10/2012 08:33, Jochen Spieker wrote: >> Mark Panen: >> >>> What is the story with plugin-containe? Every distro i have ever >>> used it eventually eats your CPU usuage? including: >> >> It's a Firefox/Iceweasel process that runs browser plugins like Adobe >> Flash. > > Yes, but

Re: Advice on system purchase

2012-10-30 Thread Joe
On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 23:02:58 -0500 Stan Hoeppner wrote: > On 10/29/2012 9:17 PM, Celejar wrote: > > On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 21:06:36 -0500 > > Stan Hoeppner wrote: > > > >> On 10/29/2012 6:08 PM, Celejar wrote: > >> > >>> Interesting. Google shows that there was a thread on /. a year ago > >>> abou

Re: plugin-containe high CPU

2012-10-30 Thread Mark Panen
On 30/10/2012 08:33, Jochen Spieker wrote: Mark Panen: What is the story with plugin-containe? Every distro i have ever used it eventually eats your CPU usuage? including: It's a Firefox/Iceweasel process that runs browser plugins like Adobe Flash. J. Yes, but why for the last ten years is i

Re: plugin-containe high CPU

2012-10-30 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 06:05:25AM +0200, Mark Panen wrote: > Hi, > > What is the story with plugin-containe? Every distro i have ever > used it eventually eats your CPU usuage? including: > > Squeeze amd64 6.0.6 Happens in Wheezy also. Bloody nuisance, and that's putting it mildly. -- "If y

Re: OT: A question about bash scripting

2012-10-30 Thread Chris Davies
Ralf Mardorf wrote: > month=$(date +%B) > mon=$(date +%b) > d_y_t=$(date '+/%d/%Y %T') > done=$(date +%s) You've got a horrible race condition in there just waiting to bite you. Try this instead: done=$(date +%s) month=$(date --date @$done +%B) mon=$(date --date @$done +%b) d_y_t

Re: Login music in console

2012-10-30 Thread Sthu Deus
Good time of the day, Andrei. You wrote: > That's not very difficult to script, one just needs to parse the > output of 'amixer [sget ]'. OR Use another player - w/ volume setting preconfigured | set on command line that invokes the player. As example, mplayer* can be. Sthu. -- To UNSUBSCR

Re: screensaver occasionally stops running (squeeze, gnome)

2012-10-30 Thread Klistvud
Dne, 30. 10. 2012 04:35:48 je Andrew Bennett napisal(a): The problem is that the screensaver just never activates. I'm using the These intermittent problems are a nightmare to track down. Something like that used to happen to me when I was still using proprietary video drivers. Then ag