On 10/30/2012 11:25 AM, Mark Allums wrote: > On 10/29/2012 1:43 PM, Worrier Poet wrote: >> On 10/29/2012 02:15 PM, Martin Steigerwald wrote: >>> Am Sonntag, 28. Oktober 2012 schrieb Stan Hoeppner: >>>> On 10/28/2012 4:38 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: >>>>> On Sb, 27 oct 12, 22:27:30, Stan Hoeppner wrote: >>>>>> Coming from a 2800+ which is a ~60 watt CPU, and given the fact >>>>>> you'll never make use of more than 2 of those 8 cores, I recommend >>>>>> a dual core AthlonII X2 @ 3.4GHz. I have the 3GHz model and the >>>>>> 2nd core is pretty much always idle, with primary core being idle >>>>>> most of the time as well, as is everyone's. >>>>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103953 >>>>> >>>>> Any opinion on a Core i3 (Ivy Bridge)? >>>> >>>> I use and promote AMD exclusively. If everyone buys Intel then AMD >>>> exits the x86 processor business. If/when that happens, Intel has no >>>> competition and can and will do two detrimental things to the market: >>>> >>>> 1. Raise prices with impunity >>>> 2. Innovate at a lower pace, or stop innovating altogether >>>> >>>> If enough people buy AMD then Intel has a strong competitor. This >>>> keeps the marketplace healthy and keeps Chipzilla from becoming a >>>> total monopoly WRT x86. >>> >>> Granted. Thats the political reason. >>> >>> Still I see nothing in AMD space that can compete with recent >>> Sandybridge >>> / Ivybridge processors in terms of computing power versus power >>> consumption ratio. >>> >>> But I am happy to learn more. >>> >>> I think that ARM will become interesting enough to have some competition >>> going on. >>> >>> And I think AMD might have something nice to offer as competition to >>> Intel >>> Atom CPUs. >>> >>> For powerful laptops and power saving desktops I think Intel >>> Sandybridge/Ivybridge is best bet currently - except for the political >>> dimension. >>> >> >> At the same time, I have reservations about supporting AMD -- or more to >> the point their subsidiary, NVidia -- when purchasing hardware. It seems >> to me that Intel has been a better friend to FOSS than its competition. >> I run my systems without proprietary software or firmware. Intel has >> made that a lot easier for me. I like to reward them for that -- not >> that any of those companies would ever notice whether or not I was a >> customer. NVidia certainly didn't give a d*** about me when I was trying >> to get support for three workstations running their most expensive >> pro-sumer graphics cards. (And that was on Windows, as well as on >> GNU/Linux.) >> >> ;-) >> >> the w > > In case it hasn't been already pointed out, AMD and Nvidia are > competitors, not partners. AMD's subsidiary is ATI, who sell Radeon. > > > > > > > > > orrier >> >> > >
Yup, it was pointed out to me right away. I was multi-mistaking at the time and pulling my sense of reality out of a pipe dream. I knew that AMD had bought one of the purveyors of expensive graphics cards that I had terrible problems with. I took 1 plus 1 and came up with Avagadro's number. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/508ff45f.8080...@comcast.net
