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On 06/19/08 01:34, Sven Joachim wrote:
> On 2008-06-19 04:50 +0200, Ron Johnson wrote:
>
>> On 06/18/08 21:25, Hubert Chathi wrote:
>>> The symlink should be installed in the libssl-dev package.
>> Why? Why not in libssl?
>
> Because it would be wro
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On 06/19/08 00:16, JW wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Iptables is annoying me by:
>
> 1) printing logs to the console
>
> 2) filling my /var/log/messages up with the same logs, which then get picked
> up and uselessly emailed to me by logcheck and logwatch.
>
On 2008-06-19 04:50 +0200, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 06/18/08 21:25, Hubert Chathi wrote:
>> The symlink should be installed in the libssl-dev package.
>
> Why? Why not in libssl?
Because it would be wrong. When the library ABI changes, a new
libsslx.y.z has to be created _in addition_ to the cur
Hello,
Iptables is annoying me by:
1) printing logs to the console
2) filling my /var/log/messages up with the same logs, which then get picked
up and uselessly emailed to me by logcheck and logwatch.
Of course all the logging is controlled by syslog, not iptables.
What I really want is for t
On 18/06/2008, Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I used Skype video conferencing yesterday and the quality was nowhere near
> as good as SIP, though in all fairness it is a bit easier to setup.
Yuck, Skype. I've been earnestly looking for free alternatives.
wengophone was good before it was abando
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On 06/18/08 21:25, Hubert Chathi wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 02:00:14 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
>
>> Hi. I am installing ewire on a customers server and it needs a
>> symlink from libssl.so.0.9.8 to libssl.so, I am worried if apt updates
>> the
PETER EASTHOPE wrote:
Folk,
Video in Skype works well for friends using Imacs
and MS-Win. I'm thinking of buying a camera.
USB webcams must use USB 2 by now. So does
a Firewire camera retain any advantage over
current USB cameras.
Some, they're apparently better supported and better qualit
On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 02:00:14 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
> Hi. I am installing ewire on a customers server and it needs a
> symlink from libssl.so.0.9.8 to libssl.so, I am worried if apt updates
> the version and the symlink suddenly stops working.
> Any suggestions as to how to keep track of
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On 06/18/08 21:16, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 20:33:38 -0500
> Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 06/18/08 19:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi.
I am installing ewire on a customers server and it needs a sym
On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 20:33:38 -0500
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> On 06/18/08 19:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Hi.
> >
> > I am installing ewire on a customers server and it needs a symlink
> > from libssl.so.0.9.8 to libssl.so, I
On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 12:50:09PM -0400, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote:
> Raj Kiran Grandhi wrote:
>
> > But, does a diskless setup have any real advantages given the low price
> > of storage these days? IMHO it is much better to have a small disk in
> > each node and have the node boot from its ow
On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 01:44:40PM -0400, Thomas H. George wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 10:57:35AM -0500, W Paul Mills wrote:
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[snip]
> The network is still unreachable although all the machines
> on the lan r
On Wed June 18 2008, Florian Kulzer wrote:
> > I'm assuming this is because adobe reader is setup with LPR ?? as opposed
> > to CUPS?? if so, how do I change it to CUPS ??
>
> I see all my defined CUPS printers in the Adobe reader print dialog and
> they all work. I think this depends on having "cu
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On 06/18/08 19:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi.
>
> I am installing ewire on a customers server and it needs a symlink
> from libssl.so.0.9.8 to libssl.so, I am worried if apt updates the
> version and the symlink suddenly stops working.
On my sys
Hi.
I am installing ewire on a customers server and it needs a symlink
from libssl.so.0.9.8 to libssl.so, I am worried if apt updates the
version and the symlink suddenly stops working.
Any suggestions as to how to keep track of this? Or another clever
solution?
I am going to forget about this
Hi
This is probably a very basic question but i'd appreciate any tips.
I installed lenny recently and selected my iso image from here:
http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/i386/iso-cd/debian-testing-i386-kde-CD-1.iso
I didn't have any problem installing it's just the desktop is gno
David Staer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>Cameron Hutchison wrote:
>> How do you use the OpenOffice.org quick start functionality?
>>
>> I have installed the package openoffice.org-gtk [...]
>You need to enable it in OpenOffice. Tools > Options >
>OpenOffice.org > Memory - then check "Enable syst
Dietrich Bollmann wrote:
> Any idea what could be the reason?
Others have pointed out some of the excellent guesses that could be the
possible culprit. My only suggestion is to go back to the command line and
disable X. Then verify whether it is an X related problem or a kernel
related issue.
ht
> That line in the script reads:
>
> echo -e "# created by
> debconf\n[mysqld]\nold_passwords = $RET" >
> /etc/mysql/conf.d/old_passwords.cnf
>
> This does not seem to require that old_passwords.cnf exists
> beforehand.
> Is there still enough space on all the relevant partitions,
Yes, free spac
Eugene V. Lyubimkin wrote:
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Edward C. Jones wrote:
I use Debian unstable, amd64 port, on a PC with a 64 bit AMD chip.
The latest version of Iceweasel, iceweasel_3.0~rc2-1, sometimes fails to
display images. I suspect that javascript is involved.
On 18 Jun 2008 18:00:44 GMT, i'll teach you to turn away. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Owen Townend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> OT> On 17 Jun 2008 04:01:26 GMT, i'll teach you to turn away. <[EMAIL
> PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> does no one use 'talk' anymore?
>
> OT> Talking is a viable
On Wednesday 18 June 2008, Michelle Konzack wrote:
> Am 2008-06-18 13:24:06, schrieb al davis:
> > Yes. Be more respectful of people who are trying to help
> > you.
>
> I have gotten no reponse from Developers and others...
Did you ask?
You have been on this here list long enough to know what ki
A,
On Wed, 18 Jun 2008, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
if you decide to investigate other minimalist WM's you might look at
xmonad. It's all keyboard controlled, tiled with a variety of
customizable tiling layouts. pretty fun(unctional).
Actually, I was using xmonad before switching to DWM. I'
On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 8:26 AM, buyoppy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Try this implementation, which I have not tested (or
>> even compiled).
(I realised subsequently that it reads past the end of the buffer if
system memory is low and the input buffer was less than
PLANB_BUF_SIZE; oops).
> Th
On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 07:10:36PM +0900, Dietrich Bollmann wrote:
> Hi Ron,
>
> On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 04:40 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
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> > On 06/18/08 03:50, Dietrich Bollmann wrote:
[snip]
> >
> > I hate to say this, but what happens i
On Wednesday 18 Jun 2008, Nuno Magalhães wrote:
> I know, it's a religious question and i'm bound to get replies of
> different people telling me their choice is the best, but, why not...
>
> The thing is i have a few requirements: i want applications that are
> not desktop-dependant (i.e. Gnome or
elijah r. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
er> On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 1:00 PM, i'll teach you to turn away.
>>i think you're going to have to leave this newsgroup after a
>> response like that.
er> I don't think that knowing what all the utilities are or how to use
er> them should be a prerequis
On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 1:00 PM, i'll teach you to turn away.
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Owen Townend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> OT> On 17 Jun 2008 04:01:26 GMT, i'll teach you to turn away. <[EMAIL
> PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> does no one use 'talk' anymore?
> OT> Talking is a viable op
On 18/06/2008, PETER EASTHOPE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Can a digital still camera with a USB cable be
> used for this purpose?
Some can, yes. But check first: don't assume that every model is capable of
this. I have used a Fujifilm 6900Z as a web cam.
On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 14:36:54 -0400, Paul Cartwright wrote:
> I wanted to print a 1-page coupon that was a PDF doc. Tried adobe reader and
> it gave me a whole error page output.
> kpdf printed it just fine
> adobe error:
> the following error occured while printing...
> `usage: lpr [-cdfghlmnp
On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 06:01:21PM +, i'll teach you to turn away. wrote:
> Michelle Konzack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> MK> Am 2008-06-17 04:01:26, schrieb i'll teach you to turn away.:
> >> does no one use 'talk' anymore?
> MK> Ehm, this is for the console... Better: xtakl or linpopu
On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 01:38:42PM -0500, Kevin Monceaux wrote:
> Nuno,
>
> On Wed, 18 Jun 2008, Nuno Magalhães wrote:
>
>> The thing is i have a few requirements: i want applications that are
>> not desktop-dependant (i.e. Gnome or KDE) and do not rely upon Java.
>> This rules out a lot of text
Thank's for all the input Kevin, i'll probably just use a regular
systanx-highlight-capable text-editor and rely on the Net for my
code-completion ;-)
No TiVo on this side of the Atlantic, but musis is music.
--
Nuno Magalhães
Nuno,
On Wed, 18 Jun 2008, Nuno Magalhães wrote:
The thing is i have a few requirements: i want applications that are not
desktop-dependant (i.e. Gnome or KDE) and do not rely upon Java. This
rules out a lot of text editors. For console, i use nano, for GUI i'm
using leafpad, any other sugges
I wanted to print a 1-page coupon that was a PDF doc. Tried adobe reader and
it gave me a whole error page output.
kpdf printed it just fine
adobe error:
the following error occured while printing...
`usage: lpr [-cdfghlmnpqrst][-#num][-1234 font][ -C class][-i [numcols]]
[-j job][-Pprinter][-T ti
> Am 2008-06-18 13:24:06, schrieb al davis:
>> Yes. Be more respectful of people who are trying to help you.
>
> I have gotten no reponse from Developers and others...
>
>> You say "not expensive" indicating your willingness to pay
>> something. How about paying for improvements you want?
>
> I h
Michelle Konzack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
MK> Am 2008-06-17 04:01:26, schrieb i'll teach you to turn away.:
>> does no one use 'talk' anymore?
MK> Ehm, this is for the console... Better: xtakl or linpopup
does no one use CLI anymore? :D
lish
Owen Townend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
OT> On 17 Jun 2008 04:01:26 GMT, i'll teach you to turn away. <[EMAIL
PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> does no one use 'talk' anymore?
OT> Talking is a viable option, though less convenient depending on the
OT> distance between the computers. My brother and I
Am 2008-06-18 13:24:06, schrieb al davis:
> Yes. Be more respectful of people who are trying to help you.
I have gotten no reponse from Developers and others...
> You say "not expensive" indicating your willingness to pay
> something. How about paying for improvements you want?
I have payed a
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 18:34:53 -0700, S D wrote:
> Hi,
>
> For some reason mysql fails to install after running "aptitude purge
> mysql-server --purge-unused". I want a clean, fresh mysql installation
> and don't care about what happens to the old mysql data/config
> files/etc. It appears the in
Nuno writes:
> The thing is i have a few requirements: i want applications that are not
> desktop-dependant (i.e. Gnome or KDE) and do not rely upon Java. This
> rules out a lot of text editors.
What editors are depenendent on Gnome or KDE?
> At the most basic level i could use a regular graphic
On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 10:27:22 +0100, Chris Lale wrote:
> Florian Kulzer wrote:
> > On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 12:25:16 +0100, Chris Lale wrote:
> >> Florian Kulzer wrote:
> >>> On Sat, Jun 07, 2008 at 16:03:33 +0100, Chris Lale wrote:
> Xorg stopped working after a recent dist-upgrade of Lenny
On Wed, 18 Jun 2008, Nuno Magalhães wrote:
I know, it's a religious question and i'm bound to get replies of
different people telling me their choice is the best, but, why not...
The thing is i have a few requirements: i want applications that are
not desktop-dependant (i.e. Gnome or KDE) and d
On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 10:57:35AM -0500, W Paul Mills wrote:
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> Thomas H. George wrote:
> | Some Progress. The ifconfig shows that eth0 has been given the address
> | 169.254.122.180 and will not allow it to be changed or deleted. However
> | if
On Tuesday 17 June 2008, Michelle Konzack wrote:
> I am using *** but those programs are crap
> and you can not . Even my 18 years
> old MS-DOS software works better.
>
> So, my requirements are:
>
> 1) PCB-Layouts up to Extended ATX and 18x11"
> 2) Only ARM and MIPS CPU's (yeah
Stackpole, Chris wrote:
> I once saw a similar problem. I don't know if this is your case, but I
> will explain what I did.
>
> I checked everything from the hard drive with iostat to the memory, my
> cpu was being hammered much like yours but nothing seemed to fess up to
> doing it. I installed h
I know, it's a religious question and i'm bound to get replies of
different people telling me their choice is the best, but, why not...
The thing is i have a few requirements: i want applications that are
not desktop-dependant (i.e. Gnome or KDE) and do not rely upon Java.
This rules out a lot of
Raj Kiran Grandhi wrote:
> But, does a diskless setup have any real advantages given the low price
> of storage these days? IMHO it is much better to have a small disk in
> each node and have the node boot from its own disk. Let /, /boot and
> swap remain local to each node and nfsmount the rest.
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Thomas H. George wrote:
| Some Progress. The ifconfig shows that eth0 has been given the address
| 169.254.122.180 and will not allow it to be changed or deleted. However
| ifconfig will create eth0:0 and allow the address of the parent machine
| to
Folk,
Video in Skype works well for friends using Imacs
and MS-Win. I'm thinking of buying a camera.
USB webcams must use USB 2 by now. So does
a Firewire camera retain any advantage over
current USB cameras.
Can a digital still camera with a USB cable be
used for this purpose?
Thanks,
Hi,
In sid's iceweasel 3 I notice a difference with iceweasel 2:
when a tab is loading the favicon shown would slowly rotate in version
2, but in version 3 it stays stuck at the beginning.
Searching bugzilla.mozilla.org I find nothing under "favicon", but it
clearly is a visible but minor b
Hello,
I am using "electic" and "geda" but those programs are crap and you can
not design real PCBs for it. Even my 18 years old MS-DOS software works
better.
So, my requirements are:
1) PCB-Layouts up to Extended ATX and 18x11"
2) Only ARM and MIPS CPU's (yeah, no i386, sparc powerpc)
3) d
Am 2008-06-16 22:07:45, schrieb Daniel Burrows:
> I think he means talk(1).
>
> Package: talk
> State: not installed
> Version: 0.17-13
> Description: Chat with another user
> Talk is a visual communication program which copies lines from your
> terminal to that of another user.
>
> In ord
Am 2008-06-17 04:01:26, schrieb i'll teach you to turn away.:
> Dotan Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> DC> The wife uses one computer, I use another. We are both connected to
> DC> the internet via a router, as such we can SSH into one another's
> DC> boxen. Is there a way to pop up a message on
Am 2008-06-17 01:24:45, schrieb Dotan Cohen:
> The wife uses one computer, I use another. We are both connected to
> the internet via a router, as such we can SSH into one another's
> boxen. Is there a way to pop up a message on the wife's machine, by
> SSHing in and having root access. We both use
Alan Chandler wrote:
On Wednesday 18 Jun 2008, Robin wrote:
2008/6/18 Alan Chandler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
I am running Sid, and in the past couple of days it upgraded
iceweasel. Now I can't run firebird - essential for development of
some facilities on my web site.
Can I easily undo that upgrad
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 09:04:42PM -0400, Thomas H. George wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 08:19:45PM -0400, Will Murnane wrote:
> > On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 19:32, Thomas H. George <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > When the bootup
> > > is complete I replace the interfaces file with a copy of the p
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 3:51 AM
>To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>Subject: cpu constantly busy on debian sid without doing anything...
>
>Since some time the two cpu's of my system (Debian sid running on a
>thi
On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 08:56:31AM -0300, Marcos José Sant'Anna Magalhães wrote:
> just to be sure, does your firewall rules allows you to ping other computers
> ?
Yes
>
> On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 6:22 PM, Robert Baron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> > Have you tried using ifconfig?
> >
> >
> >
just to be sure, does your firewall rules allows you to ping other computers
?
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 6:22 PM, Robert Baron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Have you tried using ifconfig?
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 12:06 PM, Thomas H. George <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Jun 16, 2008
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Up to date Sid.
I have tried to open a couple of documents this morning, and for that
matter just run OpenOffice writer, and I get a pop-up error message
with:
OpenOffice.org 2.4
The application cannot be started.
The user interface language cannot
Daniel Ngu wrote:
Hi,
I've always been a Debian stable user, using Gnome as my desktop manager,
currently using Etch and have always wondered about the following:
Sometimes there are software that I want to use but they are not yet in the
Debian stable repositories.
I can compile them from sou
Cameron Hutchison wrote:
> How do you use the OpenOffice.org quick start functionality?
>
> I have installed the package openoffice.org-gtk which says in its
> description:
>It also contains a QuickStarter for the "notification area".
>
> How do I make this QuickStarter work? I could not see
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On 06/18/08 05:10, Dietrich Bollmann wrote:
> Hi Ron,
>
> On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 04:40 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
>> On 06/18/08 03:50, Dietrich Bollmann wrote:
>> Since some time the two cpu's of my system (Debian sid running on a
>> thinkpad laptop x6
Hi Ron,
On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 04:40 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
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> On 06/18/08 03:50, Dietrich Bollmann wrote:
> > Since some time the two cpu's of my system (Debian sid running on a
> > thinkpad laptop x60s) are constantly busy up to the point tha
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On 06/18/08 03:50, Dietrich Bollmann wrote:
> Since some time the two cpu's of my system (Debian sid running on a
> thinkpad laptop x60s) are constantly busy up to the point that even the
> key-repeat (pushing down some key for repetitious input) doesn
* Daniel Ngu ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [18.06.08 08:27]:
> Hi,
>
> I've always been a Debian stable user, using Gnome as my desktop manager,
> currently using Etch and have always wondered about the following:
>
> Sometimes there are software that I want to use but they are not yet in the
> Debian stab
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On 06/18/08 02:47, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 28, 2006 at 09:13:32AM -0400, Kevin Mark wrote:
>> On Wed, Sep 27, 2006 at 03:34:31PM -0500, Owen Heisler wrote:
>>> On Wed, 2006-09-27 at 15:09 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
On 09/27/06 14:05,
Florian Kulzer wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 12:25:16 +0100, Chris Lale wrote:
>> Florian Kulzer wrote:
>>> On Sat, Jun 07, 2008 at 16:03:33 +0100, Chris Lale wrote:
Xorg stopped working after a recent dist-upgrade of Lenny (Testing). The
problem
seems to be that the package xser
Jan Psota on 17/06/08 23:01, wrote:
I set up iptables myself today after using an obtusely written script
for some time.
I know, that it is the old mail (so is the problem), but:
did You consider using Shorewall (I use it) instead of
setting firewall with iptables?
Example configuration files ar
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On 2008-06-14 19:15, Florian Kulzer wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 18:27:19 +0200, Bernd Kloss wrote:
>> Beamer (clone-mode). For instance *.flv: You get the full picture on the lfp
> problem when they want to show videos in a beamer-based presenta
Since some time the two cpu's of my system (Debian sid running on a
thinkpad laptop x60s) are constantly busy up to the point that even the
key-repeat (pushing down some key for repetitious input) doesn't work
anymore when using an external usb keyboard.
the system monitor shows for example:
CPU
Some releases by date and by total size of current i386 binary packages.
Number NN under each distro code indicates initial 2.6.NN kernel version.
Uh
20 GB . . . . . . . . . . . . 24 . . . . D5
.. Ug.
On 2008-06-18 09:23 +0200, Ansgar Burchardt wrote:
> There seems to be a version of Firebug compatible with Firefox 3.0:
>
> Firebug 1.2 requires Firefox 3. Firefox 2 users should install the
> older 1.05 version of Firebug.
>
> It is available on [1], but I did get an error when trying to
On Thu, Sep 28, 2006 at 09:13:32AM -0400, Kevin Mark wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 27, 2006 at 03:34:31PM -0500, Owen Heisler wrote:
> > On Wed, 2006-09-27 at 15:09 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > > On 09/27/06 14:05, Owen Heisler wrote:
> > > > I think I've figured out how to get Evolution to work
> > > > wi
>
> On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 10:56 PM, buyoppy
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I saw a webpage of Solaris's 'isencrypted'
> function which
> > inspects some data in a buffer is encrypted or not
> using
> > some algorithm including statistical analysis. But
> now I
> > cannot find that page on
Hi!
Alan Chandler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Yes - sorry my mistake - its firebug.
>
> It says the version is not compatible with 3.0 - so has been disabled,
> and there doesn't seem to be an upgrade version yet.
There seems to be a version of Firebug compatible with Firefox 3.0:
Firebu
On Wednesday 18 Jun 2008, Sven Joachim wrote:
> On 2008-06-18 01:39 +0200, Alan Chandler wrote:
> > I am running Sid, and in the past couple of days it upgraded
> > iceweasel. Now I can't run firebird - essential for development of
> > some facilities on my web site.
>
> I suspect that should read
On Wednesday 18 Jun 2008, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 06/17/08 18:39, Alan Chandler wrote:
> > I am running Sid, and in the past couple of days it upgraded
> > iceweasel. Now I can't run firebird - essential for development of
> > some facilities on my web site.
> >
> > Can I easily undo that upgrade?
On Wednesday 18 Jun 2008, Robin wrote:
> 2008/6/18 Alan Chandler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > I am running Sid, and in the past couple of days it upgraded
> > iceweasel. Now I can't run firebird - essential for development of
> > some facilities on my web site.
> >
> > Can I easily undo that upgrade?
On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 08:08:37AM +0200, Daniel Ngu wrote:
> I've always been a Debian stable user, using Gnome as my desktop manager,
> currently using Etch and have always wondered about the following:
>
> Sometimes there are software that I want to use but they are not yet
> in the Debian sta
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