Re: Introducing the CompatDB.org project

2007-02-14 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
Philipp Esselbach wrote: > > The current specifications of the CompatDB.org 1.0 XML document format > can found here – http://www.compatdb.org/specs-1.0.txt and daily > snapshots of the compatibility lists here - > http://www.compatdb.org/page9.html. CompatDB.org is currently > supporting 30 Linu

Re: Very disturbing feature in icedove

2007-02-14 Thread Steve Lamb
Dave Sherohman wrote: > OK, one more time: Delete by default does not have to mean delete > *immediately* by default. Look at the underlined text above. I already > explicitly stated that I didn't mean immediate deletion and that delete- > on-folder-change or delete-on-exit are probably better,

Now working... gdm??? Re: Couldn't load XKB keymap... Can't switch to terminal mode

2007-02-14 Thread Kenward Vaughan
On Wed, 2007-02-14 at 20:39 -0800, Kenward Vaughan wrote: > On Wed, 2007-02-14 at 16:24 +0100, Florian Kulzer wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 13, 2007 at 18:37:04 -0800, Kenward Vaughan wrote: ... > > > > > > 06:32:58 > > > daddy:~# xmodmap -pk | grep Switch_VT > > > > > > 06:33:19 > > > daddy:~# > > >

Re: Update Manager absurdity?- (FOLLOW-UP)

2007-02-14 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Default User wrote: > On Wed, 2007-02-14 at 12:03 -0600, Default User wrote: >> I am running Debian Etch-testing on an old i586 system with a 32-bit AMD >> K6-2 processor. Update Manager just did its daily check, showing 22 >> available updates. Amon

Re: Couldn't load XKB keymap... Can't switch to terminal mode

2007-02-14 Thread Kenward Vaughan
On Wed, 2007-02-14 at 16:24 +0100, Florian Kulzer wrote: > On Tue, Feb 13, 2007 at 18:37:04 -0800, Kenward Vaughan wrote: > > On Tue, 2007-02-13 at 21:53 +0100, Florian Kulzer wrote: > > > On Mon, Feb 12, 2007 at 21:11:54 -0800, Kenward Vaughan wrote: > > [...] > > > I finally caught wind of one

OT: LaTeX with monospace material

2007-02-14 Thread Kent West
(Off-Topic because this is really a LaTeX question rather than a Debian question.) I've been using OpenOffice.org to produce paper copies of songs written for guitar, but with all the talk about LaTeX on this list lately, I got to wondering if it might be a better product. The material looks like

dvi files

2007-02-14 Thread pinniped
You must be accustomed to a strange TeX distribution - all varieties I've encountered produce dvi files (as Don Knuth originally coded it). Also remember that there are a number of commercial TeX distributions and they have quite a few modifications and additional style files and may not work

Re: Stupid Noob Question: Surfing the 'Testing' edge

2007-02-14 Thread Michael M.
On Wed, 2007-02-14 at 11:36 -0500, Michael S. Peek wrote: > Hi Debian gurus, > > I jumped aboard the Debian bandwagon mid-Sarge, and so that's the > version of Debian that our machines are currently running. As Etch > nears it's completion I've been preparing for the upgrade from Sarge to > Et

Re: Very disturbing feature in icedove

2007-02-14 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 04:23:17PM -0600, Dave Sherohman wrote: > > OK, one more time: Delete by default does not have to mean delete > *immediately* by default. Look at the underlined text above. I already > explicitly stated that I didn't mean immediate deletion and that delete- > on-folder-c

Re: flash plugin

2007-02-14 Thread Mark Grieveson
> I think you should. The current version is 9.0.31.0.1. Your version is > trying to fetch a file which is no longer hosted by Adobe. Thanks. My sources were in fact the problem. I changed the sources to: deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian etch main contrib non-free and then I updated it,

Re: latex (tetex) refuses to produce dvi

2007-02-14 Thread Russell L. Harris
* Micha Feigin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070214 20:43]: > I tried to produce dvi output from a tex file I have and latex just refuses to > do it. I tried: > latex -output-format=dvi .tex > And it's as if the option is not there, I just get a pdf file again. > How do I force latex to produce a dvi file?

Re: Woody on 486 problem

2007-02-14 Thread Oleg Verych
> From: "Mirko Scurk" > Newsgroups: gmane.linux.debian.user > Subject: Woody on 486 problem > Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 02:01:56 +0100 (CET) > Hi! Hallo, Mirko. > I'm trying to install woody on Digital Venturis 466 486DX66, 540MB HDD, > 20MB RAM, CD-ROM, S3 Turbo VGA 1MB and EtherWorks III ISA netw

Re: Apt source file for etch.

2007-02-14 Thread Michael Pobega
cga2000 wrote: > On Sat, Feb 10, 2007 at 01:15:53AM EST, Greg Folkert wrote: > > >> Now. when Etch goes stable, The Official and security lines need to be >> changed to "stable" >> > > And naturally you will notify me. > > :-) > > Thanks, > > cga > > > Or you could just change the lines

latex (tetex) refuses to produce dvi

2007-02-14 Thread Micha Feigin
I tried to produce dvi output from a tex file I have and latex just refuses to do it. I tried: latex -output-format=dvi .tex And it's as if the option is not there, I just get a pdf file again. How do I force latex to produce a dvi file? This is with debian unstable and the tetex packages, not texl

Re: help with debian

2007-02-14 Thread boast
thanks. It was "syslog2mysql.sh" -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Woody on 486 problem

2007-02-14 Thread Mirko Scurk
Hi! I'm trying to install woody on Digital Venturis 466 486DX66, 540MB HDD, 20MB RAM, CD-ROM, S3 Turbo VGA 1MB and EtherWorks III ISA network adapter. The first stage of install went fine but after installing lilo and rebooting I never got prompt. There are many errors: Read-only file system not

Re: Update Manager absurdity?- (FOLLOW-UP)

2007-02-14 Thread Default User
On Wed, 2007-02-14 at 12:03 -0600, Default User wrote: > I am running Debian Etch-testing on an old i586 system with a 32-bit AMD > K6-2 processor. Update Manager just did its daily check, showing 22 > available updates. Among them was libc6-amd64, which the description > states is a 64-bit libra

scanmaker v310

2007-02-14 Thread james scott
I was wondering is there a way i could down load the stuff ineed too run this wonderful scasnner could u please let me no thank-you for ur time James scott -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Release of Stable Etch

2007-02-14 Thread Joey Hess
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > installation reports: > > reportbug installation > > upgrade reports: > > reportbug upgrade-reports Please don't file bug reports on "installation", "install", "installer", or other names that people like to make up. Every single one has to be tracked down and man

Re: Apt source file for etch.

2007-02-14 Thread cga2000
On Sat, Feb 10, 2007 at 01:15:53AM EST, Greg Folkert wrote: > On Fri, 2007-02-09 at 15:07 -0500, cga2000 wrote: > > Could someone direct me to an /etc/apt/sources.list file that works for > > "etch" or explain how I should go about creating one. [..] > ## Christian Marillat's stuff (http://www.

RE: package dependencies

2007-02-14 Thread Tony Heal
Good catch, and I can fix that. I removed the libd2-xpm package and that remove webalizer and my private package. When I try to install my package I get an error stating The following packages have unmet dependencies. {my package}: Depends: xlibs but it is not going to be installed Since I had

Re: Installing Etch with GUI on T20

2007-02-14 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 22:23:53 +, john gennard wrote: > Florian Kulzer wrote: [...] > >Normally when X is started during boot by [xkg]dm and it fails then you > >are just returned to the command prompt. If your box locks up completely > >then there might be something really wrong with the g

Re: Very disturbing feature in icedove

2007-02-14 Thread Freddy Freeloader
Dave Sherohman wrote: On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 02:30:48PM -0500, Daniel B. wrote: Dave Sherohman wrote: On Sat, Feb 10, 2007 at 12:36:55PM -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: I was complaining solely about the use of "compact" to mean "delete". Are you confusing the logical level (w

Re: Very disturbing feature in icedove

2007-02-14 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/14/07 16:23, Dave Sherohman wrote: > On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 03:42:15PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: >>> If the tool does not provide a means to undelete messages, then I also >>> find the decision to not make permanent deletion (either when the use

Re: package dependencies

2007-02-14 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 16:46:34 -0500, Tony Heal wrote: > > I have a problem. If you look below you will see that webalizer is > installed and has a dependency of either libgd2 or libgd2-noxpm. If > you look further down neither libgd2 nor libgd2-xpm are installed. > Apt-get -f install shows no pa

Re: Installing Etch with GUI on T20

2007-02-14 Thread john gennard
Florian Kulzer wrote: On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 10:06:12 +, john gennard wrote: Florian Kulzer wrote: [...] What is your graphics card? Please find the relevant lines in the output of "lspci" and post them here (lines mentioning "VGA", "graphic(s)" or "display"). The only reference to

Re: Very disturbing feature in icedove

2007-02-14 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 03:42:15PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > If the tool does not provide a means to undelete messages, then I also > > find the decision to not make permanent deletion (either when the user > > changes f

Re: package dependencies

2007-02-14 Thread Freddy Freeloader
Tony Heal wrote: I have a problem. If you look below you will see that webalizer is installed and has a dependency of either libgd2 or libgd2-noxpm. If you look further down neither libgd2 nor libgd2-xpm are installed. Apt-get –f install shows no packages in error. How can this be? Tony Pa

Traffic shaping for PPPoE / DSL, prio for VoIP

2007-02-14 Thread Bruno . Voigt
Hi all, what is the best way on a debian/unstable box to set up traffic shaping on a ppp interface (PPPoE/DSL) so that VoIP-Traffic (Asterisk is running on this box) is prioritized in favor of other traffic ? Which debian packages are suitable for this task? Are there any sample configurations ?

package dependencies

2007-02-14 Thread Tony Heal
I have a problem. If you look below you will see that webalizer is installed and has a dependency of either libgd2 or libgd2-noxpm. If you look further down neither libgd2 nor libgd2-xpm are installed. Apt-get -f install shows no packages in error. How can this be? Tony Package: webali

Re: Very disturbing feature in icedove

2007-02-14 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/14/07 15:26, Dave Sherohman wrote: > On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 02:30:48PM -0500, Daniel B. wrote: >> Dave Sherohman wrote: >>> On Sat, Feb 10, 2007 at 12:36:55PM -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: >>> I was complaining solely about the use of "compac

[Debian-User] Re: More on Network Install

2007-02-14 Thread Archive
First, thanks to the 10 people (you know who you are) that provided me with useful information regarding my own local mirror on my LAN. I printed out all your correspondence -- thanks!. It appears I began with some false assumptions even though I had read through the FAQ. Over about a week o

Re: Very disturbing feature in icedove

2007-02-14 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 02:30:48PM -0500, Daniel B. wrote: > Dave Sherohman wrote: > >On Sat, Feb 10, 2007 at 12:36:55PM -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > >I was complaining solely about the use of "compact" to mean "delete". > > Are you confusing the logical level (what the user almost always de

Re: monodevelop in Etch

2007-02-14 Thread kfitzgeralald
I wrote a how-to guide a couple of days ago for exactly this: http://kevinfitzgerald.net/sto/monodevelop-debian-etch.html Hope this helps, -Kevin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: flash plugin

2007-02-14 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 08:12:45PM +0100, Joe Hart wrote: > > Glad to hear it. I'm still running Etch, but most likely will be > running sid in the near future. Etch is getting boring. It's too stable :) > heh. well, sorry to burst your bubble, but sid's not all that thrilling either. At leas

Re: Release of Stable Etch

2007-02-14 Thread Freddy Freeloader
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 11:47:31AM -0800, Freddy Freeloader wrote: Just enter "reportbug other" and it will show you the entire listing of packages. nice. It's pretty interesting how much a person can learn from man pages isn't it? To tell the trut

Re: dumb question about scons.....

2007-02-14 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/14/07 13:51, Michael Fothergill wrote: > > > >> From: Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org >> Subject: Re: dumb question about scons. >> Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 13:25:27 -0600 >> > On 02/14/07 13:14, Michael F

Re: Very disturbing feature in icedove

2007-02-14 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/14/07 13:30, Daniel B. wrote: > Dave Sherohman wrote: >> On Sat, Feb 10, 2007 at 12:36:55PM -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez >> wrote: > ... [snip] > > At the logical level, the messages are already deleted (from the > folder). There is no way to get t

Re: Attracting newbies

2007-02-14 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Daniel B. wrote: HTML adapts to the user's browser pane width (well, if the author doesn't break HTML's ability to do that). >>> Again, to be pedantic, it's CSS that controls the layout, hence the >>> author simply provides multiple CSS, whi

Re: removing sound-juicer

2007-02-14 Thread David Jardine
Many thanks, Andrew, for taking the trouble to provide such a lucid explanation. :) No further comment. On Tue, Feb 13, 2007 at 12:34:59PM -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > [...] > > install a package called dep3, it is marked as manually installed and > will be left alone by aptitude. > >

Re: flash plugin

2007-02-14 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 06:31:41PM +0100, Joe Hart wrote: > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ apt-cache show flashplugin-nonfree >> Package: flashplugin-nonfree >> Priority: optional >> Section: contrib/web >> Installed-Size: 124

RE: dumb question about scons.....

2007-02-14 Thread Kevin Ross
> Well maybe you don't. But I am not used compiling stuff that would normally > run on an i386 box in this way so I am a bit in the dark. However if it > works, I am going to try to make deb package file for it from scratch. The > software is called ASCEND and is a chemical engineering modelli

Re: Release of Stable Etch

2007-02-14 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 11:47:31AM -0800, Freddy Freeloader wrote: > > Just enter "reportbug other" and it will show you the entire listing of > packages. nice. A signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Release of Stable Etch

2007-02-14 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 02:24:27PM -0500, Rick Thomas wrote: > > On Feb 14, 2007, at 1:40 PM, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > >had to research the second one. Didn't know it was out there, > > > Hi Andrew, > > Where did you go to research the package names? If it were better > known, there

Re: dumb question about scons.....

2007-02-14 Thread Michael Fothergill
From: Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: dumb question about scons. Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 13:25:27 -0600 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/14/07 13:14, Michael Fothergill wrote: > Dear Debianists, > > I need to use scons or SC

Re: Release of Stable Etch

2007-02-14 Thread Freddy Freeloader
Greg Folkert wrote: On Wed, 2007-02-14 at 14:24 -0500, Rick Thomas wrote: On Feb 14, 2007, at 1:40 PM, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: had to research the second one. Didn't know it was out there, Hi Andrew, Where did you go to research the package names? If it were better kno

Re: Very disturbing feature in icedove

2007-02-14 Thread Daniel B.
Dave Sherohman wrote: On Sat, Feb 10, 2007 at 12:36:55PM -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: ... I was complaining solely about the use of "compact" to mean "delete". Are you confusing the logical level (what the user almost always deals with) with the physical level? At the logical level, the

Re: Release of Stable Etch

2007-02-14 Thread Greg Folkert
On Wed, 2007-02-14 at 14:24 -0500, Rick Thomas wrote: > On Feb 14, 2007, at 1:40 PM, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > > had to research the second one. Didn't know it was out there, > > > Hi Andrew, > > Where did you go to research the package names? If it were better > known, there might be

Re: dumb question about scons.....

2007-02-14 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/14/07 13:14, Michael Fothergill wrote: > Dear Debianists, > > I need to use scons or SCons or whatever it is to help me compile some > code I got from sourceforge... > > I looked around for scons on my box (AMD64 Etch Desktop install) and i

Re: Release of Stable Etch

2007-02-14 Thread Rick Thomas
On Feb 14, 2007, at 1:40 PM, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: had to research the second one. Didn't know it was out there, Hi Andrew, Where did you go to research the package names? If it were better known, there might be more useful bug reports... Thanks! Rick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Re: Stupid Noob Question: Surfing the 'Testing' edge

2007-02-14 Thread Michael S. Peek
Joe Hart wrote: According to the documentation, when Etch is made stable, a new testing will be made (in this case called Lenny), which is a direct clone of Etch. Packages will migrate from Sid to Lenny at the same pace as usual for the testing distro. However, since Etch has been frozen, there

Re: Ubuntu vs. Debian (was Re: Introduction)

2007-02-14 Thread Stephen
On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 10:48:21AM -0500 or thereabouts, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 01:38:03AM -0500, Stephen wrote: > > > > You don't know MSFT Word well do you ? It's relatively easy to create a > > TOC from a structured Word document. Doesn't take much skill at all. Th

Re: Release of Stable Etch

2007-02-14 Thread KS
Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote: > > If on the average one RC bug is fixed per day, it still takes 3 months for > Etch to be released. This is just an estimate. But you didn't take into account new RC bugs being filed! The RC bug number has been hovering around the 100 mark (usually above it) since No

Re: flash plugin

2007-02-14 Thread Bob McGowan
I've got iceweasel installed and the installed files list shows a directory called 'plugins', located here: /usr/lib/iceweasel/plugins This is where I'd look to put the Flash files, if I wanted them to be globally active (for all possible users of the system). But, you can have a private

Re: Stupid Noob Question: Surfing the 'Testing' edge

2007-02-14 Thread Nigel Henry
On Wednesday 14 February 2007 17:36, Michael S. Peek wrote: > Hi Debian gurus, > > I jumped aboard the Debian bandwagon mid-Sarge, and so that's the > version of Debian that our machines are currently running. As Etch > nears it's completion I've been preparing for the upgrade from Sarge to > Etch

dumb question about scons.....

2007-02-14 Thread Michael Fothergill
Dear Debianists, I need to use scons or SCons or whatever it is to help me compile some code I got from sourceforge... I looked around for scons on my box (AMD64 Etch Desktop install) and it is not there. I checked in synaptic and scons is in there and has not been installed. I am goi

Re: moving partitions

2007-02-14 Thread KS
greenproc wrote: > > If you are going to network with a single cable between two machines, it must > be a crossover ethernet cable. > If you do not have one of those, then you will have to use two cables, and > plug them into a network hub/switch. > I did some transfers last year and was advis

Re: Attracting newbies

2007-02-14 Thread Daniel B.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 09:27:40AM -, marc wrote: Daniel B. said... ... Please note another problem with PDF: The page size and layout are fixed. Not really a problem, more of a feature of the format; the idea being that a PDF renders the same regardless of the d

Re: Very disturbing feature in icedove

2007-02-14 Thread Stephen
On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 03:33:47PM + or thereabouts, Paul Walsh wrote: [ ...] > "You learn something new every day" the saying goes. > > I hadn't realised about the function of the "Compact" option 'til I > read this thread. Might (partially) explain why my windozZe laptop > goes into meltd

re: How to mount Solaris disk as slave?

2007-02-14 Thread root
> Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 17:13:07 -0600 > From: Kent West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: How to mount Solaris disk as slave? [Was: Using graphical > environment] > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Kelly wrote: > > It is not recognizing the data on the other drive. It only sees the > > swap sp

Re: old hardware, newer Debian [SOLVED]

2007-02-14 Thread root
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Bannister) > Subject: Re: old hardware, newer Debian [SOLVED] > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > On Mon, Feb 12, 2007 at 05:35:59PM -0800, Mike McClain wrote: > > > Mike McClain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > I just installed sarge on a box I've happily been runn

Re: flash plugin

2007-02-14 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 06:31:41PM +0100, Joe Hart wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ apt-cache show flashplugin-nonfree > Package: flashplugin-nonfree > Priority: optional > Section: contrib/web > Installed-Size: 124 > Maintainer: Bart Martens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Architecture: i386 > Version: 9.0.31

Re: flash plugin

2007-02-14 Thread Liam O'Toole
On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 10:06:38 -0500 Mark Grieveson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What version of flashplugin-nonfree is installed? I ask because your > > machine is trying to fetch a beta version of Flash. It should be > > looking for Flash 9 final. Have done an 'apt-get update && apt-get > > upgr

Re: Release of Stable Etch

2007-02-14 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 07:08:55PM +0100, Nigel Henry wrote: > On Wednesday 14 February 2007 17:18, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 15, 2007 at 12:13:08AM +1030, Stef Daniels VK5HSX wrote: > > > After trying a Sarge to Etch update, I had to redo again, making sure I > > > upgraded to u

Re: Update Manager absurdity?

2007-02-14 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Joey Hess wrote: > Default User wrote: >> I am running Debian Etch-testing on an old i586 system with a 32-bit AMD >> K6-2 processor. Update Manager just did its daily check, showing 22 >> available updates. Among them was libc6-amd64, which the desc

Re: flash plugin

2007-02-14 Thread Niels Rasmussen
Jonathan Kaye wrote: > Just get the tarball directly from Adobe. You can find it here: > http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash&promoid=BIOW > The installation instructions are on this link but I just manually stick the > two files in ~/.mozilla/plugins.

Re: flash plugin

2007-02-14 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 05:17:49PM +0100, Joe Hart wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Andrew Sackville-West wrote: >>> as has already been mentioned, just grab the tarball and install it >>>

Re: External monitor on Laptop

2007-02-14 Thread Micha Feigin
On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 12:23:45 +1100 "Andrew Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi All, > > I'm fairly new to the Debian distro but am really enjoying using etch. > > I have Debian installed on a Dell Latitude d810 laptop, however I > generally use it with an external monitor plugged in. > > Ide

Re: Update Manager absurdity?

2007-02-14 Thread Joey Hess
Default User wrote: > I am running Debian Etch-testing on an old i586 system with a 32-bit AMD > K6-2 processor. Update Manager just did its daily check, showing 22 > available updates. Among them was libc6-amd64, which the description > states is a 64-bit library "meant for AMD64 systems". >

Re: External monitor on Laptop

2007-02-14 Thread Bob McGowan
On the laptops I've used, this is a feature of the laptop hardware. Some of the function keys have special purposes, when used with an extra key, often marked in a different color from the rest of the keys. For example, on my Sony VAIO, there's a special key, with a blue "Fn" imprinted on it,

Re: flash plugin

2007-02-14 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 05:17:49PM +0100, Joe Hart wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > > > as has already been mentioned, just grab the tarball and install it > > yourself. > > > > But, you have reminded me... the release went final but t

Re: flash plugin

2007-02-14 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 11:15:52AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 02/14/07 10:27, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 12:30:52AM -0500, Mark Grieveson wrote: > [snip] > > But, you have reminded me... the release went final but the debian > > package hasn't been updated so it 1)

Re: Stupid Noob Question: Surfing the 'Testing' edge

2007-02-14 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 12:17:56PM -0500, Michael S. Peek wrote: > Andy Hawkins wrote: > >That would be just fine. As I understand it, stuff doesn't make it from > >unstable to testing until it's been working in unstable for a while, so > >the > >chances of testing breaking horribly are reduced. >

Update Manager absurdity?

2007-02-14 Thread Default User
I am running Debian Etch-testing on an old i586 system with a 32-bit AMD K6-2 processor. Update Manager just did its daily check, showing 22 available updates. Among them was libc6-amd64, which the description states is a 64-bit library "meant for AMD64 systems". WTF ?!?! I have been trusting

Re: Release of Stable Etch

2007-02-14 Thread Nigel Henry
On Wednesday 14 February 2007 17:18, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Thu, Feb 15, 2007 at 12:13:08AM +1030, Stef Daniels VK5HSX wrote: > > After trying a Sarge to Etch update, I had to redo again, making sure I > > upgraded to udev a 2.6.12 (or higher) kernel prior to doing an apt-get > > dist-up

Re: Stupid Noob Question: Surfing the 'Testing' edge

2007-02-14 Thread John Hasler
Joe writes: > However, since Etch has been frozen, there are a lot of packages from Sid > that are ready for Testing, but can't go there. Lenny will catch them > when it is created, thus it is possible that the large number of packages > flowing in could cause some stability problems. Don't forge

Re: Installing Etch with GUI on T20

2007-02-14 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 10:06:12 +, john gennard wrote: > Florian Kulzer wrote: [...] > >What is your graphics card? Please find the relevant lines in the output > >of "lspci" and post them here (lines mentioning "VGA", "graphic(s)" or > >"display"). > > The only reference to VGA etc is:- >

Re: Stupid Noob Question: Surfing the 'Testing' edge

2007-02-14 Thread Hodgins Family
> I've seen several warnings now about making sure to change "testing" to > "etch" in /etc/apt/sources.lst once Etch goes stable. (For testing > purposes I've just always left it "etch".) But what if what I want is > to keep our machines at "testing"? It seems to have the latest and > groovi

Re: Stupid Noob Question: Surfing the 'Testing' edge

2007-02-14 Thread Andy Hawkins
Hi, In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Michael S. Peek<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Okay, so, just to make sure that I understand completely. Once Etch > becomes the new stable release, does the unstable release replace the > testing release? I.e. if I leave my systems at "testing", wi

Re: Stupid Noob Question: Surfing the 'Testing' edge

2007-02-14 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 12:17:56PM -0500, Michael S. Peek wrote: > > > Okay, so, just to make sure that I understand completely. Once Etch > becomes the new stable release, does the unstable release replace the > testing release? I.e. if I leave my systems at "testing", will I come > in one

Re: Stupid Noob Question: Surfing the 'Testing' edge

2007-02-14 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael S. Peek wrote: > Okay, so, just to make sure that I understand completely. Once Etch > becomes the new stable release, does the unstable release replace the > testing release? I.e. if I leave my systems at "testing", will I come > in one day

Re: flash plugin

2007-02-14 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 12:30:52AM -0500, Mark Grieveson wrote: >> Hello. I'm having problems with the flashplugin-nonfree package. Both >> installing it, and trying to reconfigure it, fail. It attempts to download >

Re: Stupid Noob Question: Surfing the 'Testing' edge

2007-02-14 Thread Michael S. Peek
Andy Hawkins wrote: That would be just fine. As I understand it, stuff doesn't make it from unstable to testing until it's been working in unstable for a while, so the chances of testing breaking horribly are reduced. It can still happen though, so there's a possibility that in the early stages

Re: flash plugin

2007-02-14 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/14/07 10:27, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 12:30:52AM -0500, Mark Grieveson wrote: [snip] > But, you have reminded me... the release went final but the debian > package hasn't been updated so it 1) can't find the file for

Re: Very disturbing feature in icedove

2007-02-14 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/14/07 09:33, Paul Walsh wrote: > Daniel D Jones wrote: > >> messages. Compact. That's what the operation was called, and >> that's what the drop down menu said. That was in the early >> '90s, over 20 years ago. >> >> > I presume you meant "

Re: Stupid Noob Question: Surfing the 'Testing' edge

2007-02-14 Thread Andy Hawkins
Hi, In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Michael S. Peek<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But what if what I want is to keep our machines at "testing"? It seems to > have the latest and grooviest versions of stuff. So how badly would I be > shooting myself in the foot if I changed "etch" to "tes

Re: Using courier-imap (was Re: Very disturbing feature in icedove)

2007-02-14 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 12:01:41AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > Mutt can directly read Maildir folders? (I don't see why it > shouldn't, but it just never occurred to me.) > > > changing the procmail recipe delivery folder from > > "path/to/folder" to > > Procmail? You probably like Perl, too

Re: Ubuntu vs. Debian (was Re: Introduction)

2007-02-14 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 11:33:04AM -0500, Greg Folkert wrote: > On Wed, 2007-02-14 at 10:44 -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > > > I mean, people often complain about the lack of uniformity in GUI > > programs targetted at Linux. Windows is just as bad, but people > > choose to overlook it for so

Stupid Noob Question: Surfing the 'Testing' edge

2007-02-14 Thread Michael S. Peek
Hi Debian gurus, I jumped aboard the Debian bandwagon mid-Sarge, and so that's the version of Debian that our machines are currently running. As Etch nears it's completion I've been preparing for the upgrade from Sarge to Etch. Since I'm still pretty new to Debian, I'm a little iffy when it

Re: Ubuntu vs. Debian (was Re: Introduction)

2007-02-14 Thread Greg Folkert
On Wed, 2007-02-14 at 10:44 -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: [snip] > That depends on how you define usable. Word might handle a 25 page > document. The experience of many of my friends has been that big > documents (25 pages is not big) are a real pain Word. One friend of > mine did his thesis

Re: [Debian-User] re: Network Install

2007-02-14 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 04:47:03PM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Mon, Feb 12, 2007 at 11:03:17AM -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > aptitude install python > > > > and away it goes... when done you have python. > > > > how about tcl? > > > > apt-cache search tcl > > > > this produces

Re: Software part of installation process

2007-02-14 Thread Chris Lale
Charles Blair wrote: I am trying to install debian on a machine that does not have network access. I booted from the first disk of a 15-CD set and was told it could not find my hard disk. I downloaded (using a different machine) a "netinst" version of etch, and was able to do a hard disk

Re: flash plugin

2007-02-14 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 12:30:52AM -0500, Mark Grieveson wrote: > Hello. I'm having problems with the flashplugin-nonfree package. Both > installing it, and trying to reconfigure it, fail. It attempts to download > an older file that does not exist. I then downloaded the recent file from > t

Re: Print :: Number Of Copies

2007-02-14 Thread Michael S. Peek
Greg Folkert wrote: Make sure you have cupsys-bsd installed. Setup a local CUPS printer that prints the BSD/LPRNG queue properly. Also, the Solaris queue might be set to only print 1 copy, no matter the requested number. I have cupsys-bsd installed, so maybe I don't have the queue set up proper

Re: Ubuntu vs. Debian (was Re: Introduction)

2007-02-14 Thread Miles Fidelman
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: On Tue, Feb 13, 2007 at 11:08:13PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote: Oh come on. At the company we just left, we generated 2-3 proposals a month, each at 25 pages or so, using Word. There are lots of reasons to dislike Word, but get real, it's usable Th

Re: Software part of installation process

2007-02-14 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 03:16:17PM +0100, Joe Hart wrote: > Charles Blair wrote: > >I am trying to install debian on a machine that does not have > > network access. > > > >I booted from the first disk of a 15-CD set and was told it could > > not find my hard disk. I downloaded (using a d

Re: Release of Stable Etch

2007-02-14 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Feb 15, 2007 at 12:13:08AM +1030, Stef Daniels VK5HSX wrote: > > After trying a Sarge to Etch update, I had to redo again, making sure I > upgraded to udev a 2.6.12 (or higher) kernel prior to doing an apt-get > dist-upgrade. It does fall over due to the changeover to udev and > troubles u

Re: freeradius configuration example

2007-02-14 Thread Greg Folkert
On Wed, 2007-02-14 at 06:52 -0800, Brad Brock wrote: > Is there any body able to show me where to get > configuration example for free radius? > > Thanks a lot. > GIYF (Google Is Your Friend) 15 seconds to search, 2 minutes of my time to write. Please at least *TRY* to use Google. A simple Goog

Re: Ubuntu vs. Debian (was Re: Introduction)

2007-02-14 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 01:38:03AM -0500, Stephen wrote: > > You don't know MSFT Word well do you ? It's relatively easy to create a > TOC from a structured Word document. Doesn't take much skill at all. The > key is structure, and to work in outline view. > Have you actually verified that the TO

Re: Ubuntu vs. Debian (was Re: Introduction)

2007-02-14 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Tue, Feb 13, 2007 at 11:08:13PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote: > > > Oh come on. At the company we just left, we generated 2-3 proposals a > month, each at > 25 pages or so, using Word. There are lots of reasons to dislike Word, > but get real, it's usable That depends on how you define usa

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