sound problems on debian

2007-02-10 Thread Arvind Marathe
Hi all, i just cannot get sound working on my machine. I have installed alsa and run alsaconf. But if i try 'speaker-test' or 'cat /dev/urandom > /dev/audio', i just don't get any sound. I have attached several outputs below so that somebody else might be able to figure out what is wrong. Anything

Re: Ubuntu vs. Debian (was Re: Introduction)

2007-02-10 Thread Joe Hart
Guillermo Garron wrote: On 2/11/07, Joe Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Guillermo Garron wrote: >> tom arnall wrote: >> > I booted from the Ubuntu CD the other day and was very impressed. >> It got my >> > wireless card right off. Back 6 months ago when I did a Debian >> install from >> > the mi

Re: Which USB WLAN adapter to get?

2007-02-10 Thread Dustin
Dan H. wrote: Hello, I'd like to get a WLAN USB dongle. Which brands/types/chipsets are well supported by Debian? Which packages should I install in order to get onto the network (preferentially command-line tools, as I'm trying to steer clear of X desktop bloat beyond a lean fvwm)? Thanks, --D

Re: Attracting newbies (Was Booting Debian/testing fails)

2007-02-10 Thread Joe Hart
Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: On Sat, Feb 10, 2007 at 12:59:01PM -0500, Ken Heard wrote: Many of the posts contain good ideas, and I changed some of the ideas I expressed in my post as a result. For example, I used "brain dead user" (BDU) at first to refer to myself, but further in my tex

Re: Introduction

2007-02-10 Thread Joe Hart
Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/10/07 16:27, Joe Hart wrote: Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: The exact same thing can be said of windows. There are a surprising number of problems that can only be fixed in windows using the command line and/or regedit.

Re: Local webserver for testing, needed

2007-02-10 Thread Joe Smith
"Niels Rasmussen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] swm wrote: On Debian Etch you would need to install apache2, php5, mysql-client, and mysql-server, and possibly others that you find helpful. In fact, if you are not using MySQL then save yourself some work and do

Re: mplayer + usb-to-video

2007-02-10 Thread gustavo halperin
Kevin Ross wrote: I have a laptop without s-video output (Toshiba - Portege R100) so my question is: There are any way to take out video signal throw USB2.0-Video/audio adapter (http://www.usb-port.com/uvd204.html) ? And then see the movies in the TV ? That device is for capturing vi

Re: Ubuntu vs. Debian (was Re: Introduction)

2007-02-10 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sat, Feb 10, 2007 at 11:31:49PM -0500, Kevin Mark wrote: > > While Ubuntu's release is based upon a snapshot of Debian unstable, it > is not left as such. The ubuntu folks use this and create a stable > version from it. The difference is in the team involved and the number of > packages. Debian

Re: Ubuntu vs. Debian (was Re: Introduction)

2007-02-10 Thread Kevin Mark
On Sat, Feb 10, 2007 at 04:44:22PM -0500, Michael Pobega wrote: > tom arnall wrote: > >> tom arnall wrote: > >> > >>> I booted from the Ubuntu CD the other day and was very impressed. It got > >>> my wireless card right off. Back 6 months ago when I did a Debian install > >>> from the minimal

Re: Local webserver for testing, needed

2007-02-10 Thread Fabian (Lists)
Niels Rasmussen wrote: SL Lists wrote: I used Apachefriends' XAMPP on both Windows and Linux. Have a look at http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp.html Hi again, I have two problems right now: 1. in my terminal this comes up repeatedly: libgcc_s.so.1 must be installed for pthread_cancel

Re: WEP is possible, WPA not (wpa_supplicant)

2007-02-10 Thread Fabian (Lists)
debian wrote: The solution was in the kernel, had to enable some *things* for WPA. I already enabled some security & crypto stuff, but had to do better. Would you mind sharing the wisdom? What options did you enable to get WPA working? --Fabian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: hardware problem? continual errors with drive and kernel

2007-02-10 Thread Cameron L. Spitzer
[This message has also been posted to linux.debian.user.] In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Fri, Feb 09, 2007 at 01:50:40PM -0800, Ric Otte wrote: >>=20 >> I was wondering if anyone else had had problems like this and had any >> suggestions. I don't know much about har

Re: Booting stops [SOLVED]

2007-02-10 Thread John O'Hagan
On Thursday 25 January 2007 21:12, Kevin Mark wrote: > On Thu, Jan 25, 2007 at 10:00:29PM +1100, John O'Hagan wrote: > > Hi list, > > > > A small annoyance: for a few months now, my etch box stops booting at a > > particular point, whereupon I must hit return, and it then completes. I > > am not en

Re: Very disturbing feature in icedove

2007-02-10 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sat, Feb 10, 2007 at 08:26:42PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Does that mean that with Maildirs you lose teh ability to undelete > messages? > Not if you are still using a Trash folder. Regards, -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://people.connexer.com/~roberto http://www.connexer.c

Re: Very disturbing feature in icedove

2007-02-10 Thread hendrik
On Sat, Feb 10, 2007 at 12:31:03PM -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Sat, Feb 10, 2007 at 09:08:00AM -0500, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > > > > I've never used anything but mutt. Surely someone doesn't have to run > > imapd just so that their mail gets deleted when they tell a MUA to > > delet

Re: Aptitude, sort by package state?

2007-02-10 Thread Nate Bargmann
* Andrei Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007 Feb 10 07:37 -0600]: > On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 07:07:59 -0600 > Nate Bargmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > After years of updates, package installations and removals, browsing > > through the Not Installed section of Aptitude reveals a number of > > packa

Re: Aptitude, sort by package state?

2007-02-10 Thread Nate Bargmann
* Douglas Allan Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007 Feb 10 07:27 -0600]: > On Sat, Feb 10, 2007 at 07:07:59AM -0600, Nate Bargmann wrote: > > After years of updates, package installations and removals, browsing > > through the Not Installed section of Aptitude reveals a number of > > packages with a st

Re: Attracting newbies (Was Booting Debian/testing fails)

2007-02-10 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Sat, Feb 10, 2007 at 12:59:01PM -0500, Ken Heard wrote: > Many of the posts contain good ideas, and I changed some of the ideas I > expressed in my post as a result. For example, I used "brain dead user" > (BDU) at first to refer to myself, but further in my text I used it to > refer to

Re: mysql server won't start,

2007-02-10 Thread Andy Smith
On Sat, Feb 10, 2007 at 04:45:02PM -0800, tom arnall wrote: > On Saturday 10 February 2007 16:36, Andy Smith wrote: > > Please post your /etc/mysql/my.cnf and the output of: > > > > # ls -la /var/log/mysql [...] > total 849 > drwxr-s--- 2 kloro adm1104 2007-02-09 14:24 ./ > drwxr-xr-x 18 klo

Re: Introduction

2007-02-10 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Sat, Feb 10, 2007 at 12:01:09PM -0800, tom arnall wrote: > On Saturday 10 February 2007 07:54, Joe Hart wrote: > I am thinking seriously of recommending Ubuntu as a starting point for new > users. Comments on the advantages/disadvantages of this idea are encouraged. I've never even seen Ubunt

Re: mysql server won't start,

2007-02-10 Thread tom arnall
On Saturday 10 February 2007 16:36, Andy Smith wrote: > On Fri, Feb 09, 2007 at 02:29:54PM -0800, tom arnall wrote: > > thanks for idea, but didn't work. here is session after change: > > > > debian:/var/log/mysql# ls my*dex > > mysql-bin.index > > debian:/var/log/mysql# mysqld > >

Re: mysql server won't start,

2007-02-10 Thread Andy Smith
On Fri, Feb 09, 2007 at 02:29:54PM -0800, tom arnall wrote: > thanks for idea, but didn't work. here is session after change: > > debian:/var/log/mysql# ls my*dex > mysql-bin.index > debian:/var/log/mysql# mysqld > mysqld: File '/var/log/mysql/mysql-bin.index' not found (Er

Re: SATA Raid Difficulty

2007-02-10 Thread Andy Smith
On Fri, Feb 09, 2007 at 07:14:03PM +0100, Albert Dengg wrote: > Rob Wright wrote: > ... > >Specifics: > >3 74.5GB SATA drives > >Serial ATA AHCI BIOS version iSirc 1.08.sm0 > >Intel Matrix Storage Manager Rom v5.6.2.1002 ESB2 > > > >Is there support for this in Debian, and if so what do I need to d

Re: howto build debian xen kernel?

2007-02-10 Thread Andy Smith
On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 03:58:45PM +0100, Jonas Meurer wrote: > I've installed xen-hypervisor-3.0.3-1-amd64, which includes > /boot/xen-3.0.3-1-amd64.gz. > > Do i still need a xen-enabled host kernel, or may i use the current > self compiled kernel? You need a kernel with xen patches and configur

Re: StartX problem

2007-02-10 Thread cga2000
On Sat, Feb 10, 2007 at 04:15:24PM EST, conn intel wrote: >Hello friends, > >I am using debian for few yrs.but i havent seen such problem.. I have >installed it on pentium III machine and i could not able to do startx. > >I am not getting graphical version. could anyone give their

Re: WindowMaker breaks (again) after upgrade

2007-02-10 Thread cga2000
On Sat, Feb 10, 2007 at 03:00:36PM EST, Tom Allison wrote: > So how do you fix it this time? > > I lost all my key settings (eg: Alt-Tab to rotate windows focus) again. > But I can't seem to find the setting in the Prefs window anymore. > I doubt WindowMaker removed the feature... Not as far as I

Re: Introduction

2007-02-10 Thread Frank McCormick
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 17:50:43 -0500 "Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, Feb 10, 2007 at 05:20:38PM -0500, Frank McCormick wrote: > > > > My Ubuntu installation(Dapper) on the other partition failed to > > recognize my netcard (

java

2007-02-10 Thread pinniped
Java runs on 64-bit machines. I think Debian has a package for it now, but I still get mine directly from the Blackdown website. 'chroot' cannot be avoided when you want to mix 32 and 64 bit libraries. Furthermore the kernel needs to be compiled with 32/64 support or else the 32-bit system c

Re: Introduction

2007-02-10 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sat, Feb 10, 2007 at 05:20:38PM -0500, Frank McCormick wrote: > > My Ubuntu installation(Dapper) on the other partition failed to > recognize my netcard (smc-ultra) and Debian also failed there. Other > than that both were equal. HOWEVER I did have to run around looking for > proprietary driv

Re: Attracting newbies (Was Booting Debian/testing fails)

2007-02-10 Thread Ken Heard
Michael, Thank you for your positive response to my "Attracting newbies" post, which really started the fork from "Booting Debian/testing fails". The original post from Terrence Brannon generated 59 responses including mine; whereas there have been so far 96 responses since my post. If n

Re: StartX problem

2007-02-10 Thread Kent West
conn intel wrote: > Hello friends, > > I am using debian for few yrs.but i havent seen such problem.. I have > installed it on pentium III machine and i could not able to do startx. > > I am not getting graphical version. could anyone give their > suggestions..? > > Here is the XF86config-4 , XFree

Re: Introduction

2007-02-10 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/10/07 16:27, Joe Hart wrote: > Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: >> The exact same thing can be said of windows. There are a surprising >> number of problems that can only be fixed in windows using the command >> line and/or regedit. Many of these fixe

Re: Introduction

2007-02-10 Thread Joe Hart
Frank McCormick wrote: My Debian Etch is faster to boot and load Firefox/Thunderbird/Gimp and other large apps. That may be due to the fact I am not running Gnome or KDE and not carrying all that overhead. Overall I think Debian is a more solid distro, despite its few shortcomings. I have to agr

Re: Introduction

2007-02-10 Thread Joe Hart
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: The exact same thing can be said of windows. There are a surprising number of problems that can only be fixed in windows using the command line and/or regedit. Many of these fixes come directly from Microsoft. That is one of the reasons I am using Debian right now.

Re: Introduction

2007-02-10 Thread Frank McCormick
Michael Pobega wrote: tom arnall wrote: On Saturday 10 February 2007 07:54, Joe Hart wrote: Hello everyone, I just wanted to introduce myself. I am a new Debian Etch user. I've switched from Kubuntu since I read about the new partnership of Ubuntu and Linspire. While I think the merging

Re: Introduction

2007-02-10 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sat, Feb 10, 2007 at 11:12:49PM +0100, Joe Hart wrote: > > Now is a good time, because of the problems with Vista, people will > possibly look for alternatives. It will be hard to break the MS > stranglehold on the desktop, for users afraid of the command line, all > versions of Linux are s

Re: Introduction

2007-02-10 Thread Joe Hart
Michael Pobega wrote: tom arnall wrote: I booted from the Ubuntu CD the other day and was very impressed. It got my wireless card right off. Back 6 months ago when I did a Debian install from the minimal cd, I had to recompile the kernel etc to get my card to work. Does anyone know if this

Re: 32bit programs on amd64?

2007-02-10 Thread Bruno Buys
Stefan Monnier wrote: I am trying to figure out the easiest way to install a firefox version that would work with java and flash inside my amd64 etch. Actually flash isn't that important, but java is. Why can't you use a native 64bit Java? Stefan thanks all for the replies.

Re: Ubuntu vs. Debian (was Re: Introduction)

2007-02-10 Thread Michael Pobega
tom arnall wrote: >> tom arnall wrote: >> >>> I booted from the Ubuntu CD the other day and was very impressed. It got >>> my wireless card right off. Back 6 months ago when I did a Debian install >>> from the minimal cd, I had to recompile the kernel etc to get my card to >>> work. Does anyon

Re: Introduction

2007-02-10 Thread Michael Pobega
tom arnall wrote: > On Saturday 10 February 2007 07:54, Joe Hart wrote: > >> Hello everyone, >> >> I just wanted to introduce myself. I am a new Debian Etch user. I've >> switched from Kubuntu since I read about the new partnership of Ubuntu >> and Linspire. While I think the merging of the s

Re: Ubuntu vs. Debian (was Re: Introduction)

2007-02-10 Thread tom arnall
> > tom arnall wrote: > > I booted from the Ubuntu CD the other day and was very impressed. It got > > my wireless card right off. Back 6 months ago when I did a Debian install > > from the minimal cd, I had to recompile the kernel etc to get my card to > > work. Does anyone know if this has change

Re: Introduction

2007-02-10 Thread Frank McCormick
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 21:39:17 +0100 Marcus Blumhagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, Feb 10, 2007 at 12:56:38PM -0500, Frank McCormick wrote: > > > Now, everyone of my friends keeps hearing from me how great Linux > > > is and how their virus ridd

Re: Introduction

2007-02-10 Thread tom arnall
On Saturday 10 February 2007 13:03, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Sat, Feb 10, 2007 at 09:39:17PM +0100, Marcus Blumhagen wrote: > > http://www.degredo.net/ > > > > I found it in a forum and think it is a really funny aproach. But take > > care that Ubuntu won't reveal its real name before your wi

Re: Introduction

2007-02-10 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sat, Feb 10, 2007 at 09:39:17PM +0100, Marcus Blumhagen wrote: > > http://www.degredo.net/ > > I found it in a forum and think it is a really funny aproach. But take > care that Ubuntu won't reveal its real name before your wife is > convinced ;) > That is hilarious. I should try that out on

Re: Laptop Recommendations? Thinkpad

2007-02-10 Thread Allan Wind
I am just documenting this for the mail archive. On 2007-02-02T09:56:45+0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I installed Debian/unstable on a new Thinkpad Z61p. Unfortunately my > usual procedure using netboot Debian-NetInstaller didn't work, because > it didnt liked the Broadcom TG3 ethernet. http:

Re: Laptop Recommendations?

2007-02-10 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Does anyone have any recent experience, either good or bad, with any > specific laptops? Just avoid ATI graphics cards, and nVidia as well (tho it's not as bad). Integrated Intel graphics is often the best choice (best support under GNU/Linux, best battery life as well). Stefan -- T

Re: 32bit programs on amd64?

2007-02-10 Thread Stefan Monnier
> I am trying to figure out the easiest way to install a firefox version that > would work with java and flash inside my amd64 etch. Actually flash isn't > that important, but java is. Why can't you use a native 64bit Java? Stefan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a

Re: Introduction

2007-02-10 Thread Marcus Blumhagen
On Sat, Feb 10, 2007 at 12:56:38PM -0500, Frank McCormick wrote: > > Now, everyone of my friends keeps hearing from me how great Linux is > > and how their virus ridden OS is holding their productivity back. > > >I am still working on converting my wife - she's tough! Hi Frank, if your w

Ubuntu vs. Debian (was Re: Introduction)

2007-02-10 Thread Joe Hart
Tom, It all depends on which version of Ubuntu and Debian that you're referring to. Much stride has been taken in this area of late. It also makes a difference which brand the wireless device uses. Some work well, while others still require the use of ndiswrapper and the windows drivers.

RE: mplayer + usb-to-video

2007-02-10 Thread Kevin Ross
> I have a laptop without s-video output (Toshiba - Portege > R100) so my > question is: There are any way to take out video signal throw > USB2.0-Video/audio adapter (http://www.usb-port.com/uvd204.html) ? > > And then see the movies in the TV ? That device is for capturing video and audio

WindowMaker breaks (again) after upgrade

2007-02-10 Thread Tom Allison
So how do you fix it this time? I lost all my key settings (eg: Alt-Tab to rotate windows focus) again. But I can't seem to find the setting in the Prefs window anymore. I doubt WindowMaker removed the feature... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Tr

Re: debian astrolog package tips

2007-02-10 Thread mrweb
On Saturday 10 February 2007 07:25, Jude DaShiell wrote: > An astrolog.dat file should have been included with the debian astrolog > package and wasn't. It could have been put in /usr/share/astrolog. The > ephemeris files located in ephemall.zip could have joined that > astrolog.dat file in /usr/

mplayer + usb-to-video

2007-02-10 Thread gustavo halperin
Hello I have a laptop without s-video output (Toshiba - Portege R100) so my question is: There are any way to take out video signal throw USB2.0-Video/audio adapter (http://www.usb-port.com/uvd204.html) ? And then see the movies in the TV ? Thank you in advance, Gustavo --

mplayer + usb-to-video

2007-02-10 Thread gustavo halperin
Hello I have a laptop without s-video output (Toshiba - Portege R100) so my question is: There are any way to take out video signal throw USB2.0-Video/audio adapter (http://www.usb-port.com/uvd204.html) ? And the see the movies in the TV ? Thank you in advance, Gustavo --

Re: News Flash

2007-02-10 Thread David E. Fox
On Thu, 08 Feb 2007 11:29:16 -0600 Mike McCarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What I want to see happen is removing the restrictions of > making backup copies of my DVDs and prohibiting me from > playing them outside of my own "region". To me, this is IMO, we really caved into the less-than-free g

Re: Introduction

2007-02-10 Thread tom arnall
On Saturday 10 February 2007 07:54, Joe Hart wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I just wanted to introduce myself. I am a new Debian Etch user. I've > switched from Kubuntu since I read about the new partnership of Ubuntu > and Linspire. While I think the merging of the systems might be a good > idea

Re: News Flash

2007-02-10 Thread David E. Fox
On Wed, 7 Feb 2007 12:02:48 +0100 Florian Kulzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It seems to me that Steve Jobs likes DRM very much, as long as it makes > it difficult for competitors to interoperate smoothly with iTunes and/or > the iPod. (I know that the end user has relatively easy ways around As

Re: Opening ports in Shorewall in order to run an America's Army server

2007-02-10 Thread Liam O'Toole
On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 14:29:22 +0100 Jan Stępień <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I've been trying to set up an America's Army game server on my Debian > server box. Having already configured an Apache webserver and few > other services such as SSH, and a MySQL database I thought that

Re: Bug #352758

2007-02-10 Thread cga2000
On Sat, Feb 10, 2007 at 08:11:06AM EST, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > On Fri, Feb 09, 2007 at 04:30:12PM -0500, cga2000 wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 30, 2007 at 11:50:00PM EST, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > > > On Tue, Jan 30, 2007 at 09:05:56PM -0500, cga2000 wrote: > > > > If you want to comment furthe

Re: Laptop Recommendations?

2007-02-10 Thread Lorenzo Bettini
Tim Wescott wrote: Does anyone have any recommendations on a distro to use? I've got Etch on this machine, and I'm mostly happy with it. At this point I'd like to stick with something that has similar administration issues, but if there's a distro that's clearly better for laptops I'll go wit

Re: Local webserver for testing, needed

2007-02-10 Thread Niels Rasmussen
swm wrote: On Debian Etch you would need to install apache2, php5, mysql-client, and mysql-server, and possibly others that you find helpful. In fact, if you are not using MySQL then save yourself some work and don't install it. -Steve Well thanks for all the hints, but someone have dir

Re: Scanning for unpackaged files

2007-02-10 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sat, Feb 10, 2007 at 04:01:03PM +0100, Martin Fuzzey wrote: > Hi all, > > I am looking for a way to find any files on my system in certain > directories (such as /usr/lib, ...) that have NOT been installed by a > package. > I know about debsums but that only tells me if packaged files have be

Re: Removing desktop environments

2007-02-10 Thread cga2000
On Sat, Feb 10, 2007 at 05:27:54AM EST, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 08:24:46AM -0500, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > > As far as /usr/share/doc if you are _really_ short on disk space, you > > could burn it to a CD, then remove the _contents_ of each directory (or at > > least t

Re: Removing desktop environments

2007-02-10 Thread cga2000
On Sat, Feb 10, 2007 at 05:28:35AM EST, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 06:14:40PM -0500, cga2000 wrote: > > I tried locale + from a bash prompt on my sarge and found no > > localepurge. > > > > I tried: > > > > $ locate locale | g purge > > > > .. and no joy either. > > > > T

Re: Removing desktop environments

2007-02-10 Thread cga2000
On Sat, Feb 10, 2007 at 11:09:31AM EST, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > yeah, sorry, I 'r'ed instead of 'L'ed... No problem. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Introduction

2007-02-10 Thread Frank McCormick
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 18:43:15 +0100 Joe Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > My goal however is not to bash Ubuntu or Linspire, or any other > distro for that matter. I chose Debian because it seems to suit me. > Other people choose others because it

Re: Introduction

2007-02-10 Thread Joe Hart
Jeff wrote those who have some experience with Linux will most likely feel that CNR is not the way to go. Joe, AFAIK CNR will be made available as an *option* on Ubuntu, but that apt will continue to be the primary software delivery vehicle. So, if CNR is "not the way to go" for someone, t

Re: Very disturbing feature in icedove

2007-02-10 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sat, Feb 10, 2007 at 09:10:46AM -0600, Dave Sherohman wrote: > On Sat, Feb 10, 2007 at 02:30:33PM +, Virgo Pärna wrote: > > To make Thunderbird/Icedove to really delete those messages you can use > > File, Compact Folders and you can specify configuration option "Compact > > folders wh

Re: Local webserver for testing, needed

2007-02-10 Thread swm
On Saturday 10 February 2007 04:50, Niels Rasmussen wrote: > Hi list > > In Windows there is a utility called WAMP, which stands for: > Windows+Apache+MySQL+PHP > > It was quite nice to use for testing PHP-apps locally before > uploading to my domain. > > I dont want to install a fullblown we

Re: Very disturbing feature in icedove

2007-02-10 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sat, Feb 10, 2007 at 09:08:00AM -0500, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > > I've never used anything but mutt. Surely someone doesn't have to run > imapd just so that their mail gets deleted when they tell a MUA to > delete a mail. I'd call that a bug. > Switching from mbox to Maildir would probab

Re: Introduction

2007-02-10 Thread Jeff
Joe Hart wrote: Hello everyone, I just wanted to introduce myself. I am a new Debian Etch user. I've switched from Kubuntu since I read about the new partnership of Ubuntu and Linspire. While I think the merging of the systems might be a good idea for new Linux users, those who have some e

Re: Very disturbing feature in icedove

2007-02-10 Thread Dave Ewart
On Saturday, 10.02.2007 at 09:10 -0600, Dave Sherohman wrote: > On Sat, Feb 10, 2007 at 02:30:33PM +, Virgo Pärna wrote: > > To make Thunderbird/Icedove to really delete those messages you can use > > File, Compact Folders and you can specify configuration option "Compact > > folders whe

Re: greylistd / exim4 troubles -- how to troubleshoot?

2007-02-10 Thread Monique Y. Mudama
On 2007-02-03, Tony Rowe penned: > On 2007-02-02, Monique Y. Mudama <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I'm wondering if this package "just worked" for anyone and if not, >> how they got it to work, especially with exim4 and a monolithic >> exim4.conf that was converted from an exim3 installation, on >>

Re: VIA VT8237A Southbridge Advice

2007-02-10 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Feb 09, 2007 at 08:51:47PM -0500, Andrew Perrin wrote: > On Fri, 9 Feb 2007, Grok Mogger wrote: > > > > >Thanks for the advice. I have to admit, sounds a little scary for > >someone who has never compiled a kernel before. =\ But I may actually > >try it. > > There's a first time for

Re: Introduction

2007-02-10 Thread Franck Joncourt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Joe Hart wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I just wanted to introduce myself. I am a new Debian Etch user. I've > switched from Kubuntu since I read about the new partnership of Ubuntu > and Linspire. While I think the merging of the systems might be a

Re: Apt source file for etch.

2007-02-10 Thread Greg Folkert
On Sat, 2007-02-10 at 09:48 +, Liam O'Toole wrote: > On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 01:15:53 -0500 > Greg Folkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Fri, 2007-02-09 at 15:07 -0500, cga2000 wrote: > > > Could someone direct me to an /etc/apt/sources.list file that works > > > for "etch" or explain how I

Re: Removing desktop environments

2007-02-10 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Feb 09, 2007 at 06:18:06PM -0500, cga2000 wrote: > On Fri, Feb 09, 2007 at 09:47:42AM EST, Marcus Blumhagen wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 06:14:40PM -0500, cga2000 wrote: > > > [...] > > > > you mention lots of locales you have no use for. localepurge will > > > > remove these locales

Re: OT: Linux Tux Flags

2007-02-10 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Feb 09, 2007 at 09:04:33PM -0500, Kevin Mark wrote: > On Fri, Feb 09, 2007 at 02:40:50PM -0500, Curt Howland wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Good afternoon Debianistas. > > > > I was noticing that the flag out front of my house was looking pretty > >

Re: how to upgrade your kernel without a reboot

2007-02-10 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Feb 09, 2007 at 10:52:50PM -0500, Kevin Mark wrote: > I had a new kernel in about one minute. Which would > have happended in a regular reboot but it misses going through the bios > and doing an actual /sbin/reboot. okay, that's too cool. A totally aol signature.asc Description: Digi

Introduction

2007-02-10 Thread Joe Hart
Hello everyone, I just wanted to introduce myself. I am a new Debian Etch user. I've switched from Kubuntu since I read about the new partnership of Ubuntu and Linspire. While I think the merging of the systems might be a good idea for new Linux users, those who have some experience with Li

Re: [ltp] News Flash

2007-02-10 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Feb 09, 2007 at 11:54:47PM -0500, Greg Folkert wrote: > On Fri, 2007-02-09 at 11:46 -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > I can never remember which way its supposed to go. I just stick to > > double ROT-13. much easier that way as the direction doesn't matter > > then. ;-P > > Only Doub

Re: Local webserver for testing, needed

2007-02-10 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 09:22:21 -0600 Dave Sherohman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [1] Is there a switch I'm not aware of that causes a search for, say, > php to return just the actual php packages (i.e., php3 and php4) > instead of all the hundreds of phpgroupware-* and other packages that > use php

Re: 32bit programs on amd64?

2007-02-10 Thread Jerome BENOIT
Hello, have you try `nspluginwrapper' ? Jerome Bruno Buys wrote: I am trying to figure out the easiest way to install a firefox version that would work with java and flash inside my amd64 etch. Actually flash isn't that important, but java is. The document at (1) tells me that the package ia

Re: 32bit programs on amd64?

2007-02-10 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Sat, Feb 10, 2007 at 12:30:46PM -0200, Bruno Buys wrote: > I am trying to figure out the easiest way to install a firefox version > that would work with java and flash inside my amd64 etch. Actually flash > isn't that important, but java is. The document at (1) tells me that the > package ia3

Re: Local webserver for testing, needed

2007-02-10 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Sat, Feb 10, 2007 at 01:50:34PM +0100, Niels Rasmussen wrote: > Does such a utility exist for use with debian (or something similar) ? > > I've read about LAMP but cant find it in the repositories :-/ Well, you're already running Linux, so that's covered. $ apt-cache search apache apache - v

Scanning for unpackaged files

2007-02-10 Thread Martin Fuzzey
Hi all, I am looking for a way to find any files on my system in certain directories (such as /usr/lib, ...) that have NOT been installed by a package. I know about debsums but that only tells me if packaged files have been modified. I probably could write a script to do it something like th

Re: Very disturbing feature in icedove

2007-02-10 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Sat, Feb 10, 2007 at 02:30:33PM +, Virgo Pärna wrote: > To make Thunderbird/Icedove to really delete those messages you can use > File, Compact Folders and you can specify configuration option "Compact > folders when it will save over XXX kB" (you can also specify specific amount > of

Re: Local webserver for testing, needed

2007-02-10 Thread Joe
Niels Rasmussen wrote: Hi list In Windows there is a utility called WAMP, which stands for: Windows+Apache+MySQL+PHP It was quite nice to use for testing PHP-apps locally before uploading to my domain. I dont want to install a fullblown webserver just to check if my pages looks all righ

nettrick question

2007-02-10 Thread Jude DaShiell
I tried that browser earlier but removed it from my machine because I couldn't figure out how to get nettrick to download something like a binary or iso file from the internet. There didn't seem to be any kind of documented command to do this either so far as I could tell from reading the manu

32bit programs on amd64?

2007-02-10 Thread Bruno Buys
I am trying to figure out the easiest way to install a firefox version that would work with java and flash inside my amd64 etch. Actually flash isn't that important, but java is. The document at (1) tells me that the package ia32-libs, which I already have, provides a minimal support to run 32b

Re: Very disturbing feature in icedove

2007-02-10 Thread Virgo Pärna
On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 03:12:47 -0800 (PST), Arc Roca <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I would have expected this in a windows application, > but not in one of ours!!! > Actually - mutt does the same thing - when message is deleted, it's marked as deleted and not actually deleted. Check man muttr

Re: Very disturbing feature in icedove

2007-02-10 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/10/07 08:08, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > On Sat, Feb 10, 2007 at 07:43:37AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: >> On 02/10/07 05:12, Arc Roca wrote: >>> Exploring my system, I decided to open Inbox with mutt >>> -f, and discovered that no message that I

Re: Opening ports in Shorewall in order to run an America's Army server

2007-02-10 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Sat, Feb 10, 2007 at 03:38:49PM +0100, Jan St??pie?? wrote: > On 10 Lut, 14:30, Douglas Allan Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Could it be that you've opened the ports to allow connection attempts > > from the net to your box but not from your box to the net? You are > > telneting _out_ so

debian astrolog package tips

2007-02-10 Thread Jude DaShiell
An astrolog.dat file should have been included with the debian astrolog package and wasn't. It could have been put in /usr/share/astrolog. The ephemeris files located in ephemall.zip could have joined that astrolog.dat file in /usr/share/astrolog as well but didn't. No matter I got my astrol

Re: Opening ports in Shorewall in order to run an America's Army server

2007-02-10 Thread Jan Stępień
On 10 Lut, 14:30, Douglas Allan Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Could it be that you've opened the ports to allow connection attempts > from the net to your box but not from your box to the net? You are > telneting _out_ so you would need to open from fw to net as well. It doesn't help. Take a

Re: Very disturbing feature in icedove

2007-02-10 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Sat, Feb 10, 2007 at 07:43:37AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 02/10/07 05:12, Arc Roca wrote: > > Exploring my system, I decided to open Inbox with mutt > > -f, and discovered that no message that I had deleted > > had really been deleted. They were all there, from the > > very first, in the sa

Re: Apt source file for etch.

2007-02-10 Thread Gilles Mocellin
Le vendredi 9 février 2007 21:07, cga2000 a écrit : > Could someone direct me to an /etc/apt/sources.list file that works for > "etch" or explain how I should go about creating one. This is normally > taken care of by the installer but since I did not have a working > connection when I was suppose

Re: Grrr!

2007-02-10 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/10/07 04:28, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Wed, Feb 07, 2007 at 12:12:08PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 02/07/07 11:19, Dan H. wrote: >>> Ron Johnson wrote: >>> It's called the "Unsent"

Re: Very disturbing feature in icedove

2007-02-10 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/10/07 05:12, Arc Roca wrote: > Exploring my system, I decided to open Inbox with mutt > -f, and discovered that no message that I had deleted > had really been deleted. They were all there, from the > very first, in the same file Inbox. Invisible

Re: problem searching packages

2007-02-10 Thread Gilles Mocellin
Le jeudi 8 février 2007 23:56, Mathias Brodala a écrit : > Hello Nelson. > > Nelson Castillo, 08.02.2007 23:52: > >> How to check whether hplip (or any other package) is installed on my > >> system or not ? > > > > dpkg -l | grep packagename > > Or just: > > $ dpkg -l packagename And if we don't k

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