Re: Linux Standard Base

2003-11-05 Thread Greg Madden
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 05 November 2003 09:33 pm, Paul E Condon wrote: > I've been talking to other Linux users in my area (Colorado, USA) > about their problems with Red Hat dropping their user, > non-enterprise, distribution. I suggest Debian. I say its really

Linux Standard Base

2003-11-05 Thread Paul E Condon
I've been talking to other Linux users in my area (Colorado, USA) about their problems with Red Hat dropping their user, non-enterprise, distribution. I suggest Debian. I say its really great. But I'm told "But it doesn't comply with 'Linux Standard Base' ". So what is Linux Standard Base? And who

Re: Exim4 - current spam setup

2003-11-05 Thread moseley
On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 09:39:15PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > > 3) Any opinions on using a sender callout feature? Will good mail get > > blocked? > > Yes, almost definitely. Not all sites support this. Really? The callout just checks to see if a bounce ( sender <> ) can be sent. There's

Re: Going to give it another shot-need more help

2003-11-05 Thread Kent West
Mark Healey wrote: On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 23:45:18 -0600, Kent West wrote: Anyway I believe I should get kernel version 2.4.22. That's the latest stable one, right? Is there a .deb package (and where is it) or should I just get the .tar.bz2 one from kernel.org? Ah, sorry. In that case, go get the

NTP packages (was: setting hardware clock from NIST)

2003-11-05 Thread moseley
Can someone summarize the different ntp packages? For example what to run on a server vs. on an internal NAT'ed workstation. Or what is best for a dialup ADSL connection vs. full-time connection. Do all packages provied a daemon? I'm using both chrony and ntp on various machines, and it s

Re: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"

2003-11-05 Thread Tom
On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 02:02:26PM +0800, David Palmer. wrote: > Linux people are running around saying 'this corporation's good, and > that one is bad', when as far as I am concerned, corporations don't have > personalities,-their lifeblood is profit. Period. Fullstop. > If anybody thinks that cor

Re: Going to give it another shot-need more help

2003-11-05 Thread Mark Healey
On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 23:45:18 -0600, Kent West wrote: >Mark Healey wrote: > >>On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 18:00:11 -0600, Kent West wrote: >> >> Anyway I believe I should get kernel version 2.4.22. That's the latest stable one, right? Is there a .deb package (and where is it) or should I

Re: Help!

2003-11-05 Thread David Palmer.
On Thu, 6 Nov 2003 01:48:03 - "Dan Huddart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I know you guys don't want to hear this and I apologise but: > > I have never heard of this list or anything about it, yet somehow I've > been subscribed and I can't get off. I've sent the usual unsubscribe > email and

Re: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"

2003-11-05 Thread David Palmer.
On Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:58:05 -0800 Tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 10:27:32PM -0500, Mike Mueller wrote: > > Mr. RH CEO tastes sour grapes because IBM dropped US$50M into Novell > > > > effectively choosing SuSE's dance card over the RH's. Mr. RH CEO > > peed into the OSS

Re: woody/sarge on Barton MoBo? kt600 and/or which nvidia

2003-11-05 Thread Kent West
Hanasaki JiJi wrote: What motherboards have people had success/failures with for woody and sarge and Bartons with a 400fsb? Which mobo chipsets have you had good/bad experiences with? amd? nvidia? via? kt600? And with which kernels? I guess the woody distribution kernel would need t

Re: setting hardware clock from NIST

2003-11-05 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Ron Johnson wrote: On Wed, 2003-11-05 at 20:20, Roberto Sanchez wrote: John Hasler wrote: The first place to look for time servers is your ISP. ISPs often run time service on their nameservers. Try them. I tried my ISP first. When I sent tech support an email asking about the NTP servers, they

Re: User looses access to DISPLAY

2003-11-05 Thread Kent West
Haines Brown wrote: Finally bringing to conclusion my first debian (3.0r.1) install, I ran aptitude update. When I subsequently rebooted, user cannot start x, but root can. I reconfigured XF86Config-4 by running dpgk-reconfigure , using the simple configuration, which worked before, and kept the sa

Re: Help!

2003-11-05 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 01:48:03AM -, Dan Huddart wrote: > I know you guys don't want to hear this and I apologise but: > > I have never heard of this list or anything about it, yet somehow I've been > subscribed and I can't get off. I've sent th

Re: Debian Testing - enabling cleartext passwords in uw-imap (next up - enable SSL)

2003-11-05 Thread Ron Johnson
On Wed, 2003-11-05 at 23:12, BruceG wrote: > Okay, have been having fun (well, sort of, kind of). I decided to > upgrade from Stable to Testing and broke my pop and imap e-mail. So I > figured what the heck - it's only been up a little while with just me > using it, so do a new install. Installed S

Re: Going to give it another shot-need more help

2003-11-05 Thread Kent West
Mark Healey wrote: On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 18:00:11 -0600, Kent West wrote: Anyway I believe I should get kernel version 2.4.22. That's the latest stable one, right? Is there a .deb package (and where is it) or should I just get the .tar.bz2 one from kernel.org? I did find a HOWTO but it is pretty

Re: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"

2003-11-05 Thread Ron Johnson
On Wed, 2003-11-05 at 20:55, David Millet wrote: > all I have to say is that I personally want linux to rule the desktop, > simply because I will stand to make alot of money when big companies > start picking it up. a lot of us will, in fact. > > i'm extremely confident that it will rule the de

Re: Exim4 - current spam setup

2003-11-05 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 02:30:12PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > 2) What RBL entries (dnslists) are you using in Exim4's ACL list? bl.spamcop.net, and a couple of ones from rfc-ignorant.org to weed out some of the fishy sources. > 3) Any opinions

Debian Testing - enabling cleartext passwords in uw-imap (next up - enable SSL)

2003-11-05 Thread BruceG
Okay, have been having fun (well, sort of, kind of). I decided to upgrade from Stable to Testing and broke my pop and imap e-mail. So I figured what the heck - it's only been up a little while with just me using it, so do a new install. Installed Stable base (no tasksel, no deselect - just a bare-b

Re: setting hardware clock from NIST

2003-11-05 Thread Ron Johnson
On Wed, 2003-11-05 at 20:20, Roberto Sanchez wrote: > John Hasler wrote: > > The first place to look for time servers is your ISP. ISPs often run > > time service on their nameservers. Try them. > > I tried my ISP first. When I sent tech support an email asking > about the NTP servers, they sen

Re: new user question about stable branch

2003-11-05 Thread ScruLoose
On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 08:05:57PM -0800, Chris Ochs wrote: > > Is the stable branch frozen in place except for security/bug fixes from the > time it was released? I installed woody and then upgraded to kernel 2.4.18, > which made me think what other packages are update from time to time. In ter

Re: fully removing a user?

2003-11-05 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Thu, 06 Nov 2003 at 04:31 GMT, Karsten M. Self penned: > > > It's the residual files which are th epirmary reason *not* to blindly > delete a user's /etc/passwd entry. Given a disabled account, the user > *cannot* log into the system. However the system administrator *can* > still identify f

Re: Tracking packages without having them installed

2003-11-05 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 09:07:35PM +1100, Rob Weir ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Sun, Nov 02, 2003 at 11:16:19AM -0800, Tom said > > After I do an apt-get upgrade on my desktop, I keep the DEBs I > > downloaded to use on other machines or when I start over. > > > > I find I must have everything

Re: OT - Documenting systems

2003-11-05 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 09:56:15PM -0500, Paul M Foster ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 10:47:00PM +, Clive Menzies wrote: > > > Hi > > > > By stealth, I seem to be developing a sysadmin personality, what with the > > expanding network here and increasingly getting involv

Re: fully removing a user?

2003-11-05 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 10:22:39AM -0700, Monique Y. Herman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > So, I've noticed that my home machine has some accounts lying around > that are certainly unused -- I set up a user so that a friend could use > my disk space, that sort of thing. > > Got me thinking ... okay,

Re: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"

2003-11-05 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Thu, 06 Nov 2003 at 01:31 GMT, ScruLoose penned: > > --i0/AhcQY5QxfSsSZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: > quoted-printable > > On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 05:27:11PM -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: >>=20 See my post in another thr

What could be changing keymaps behind my back?

2003-11-05 Thread Jorge Santos
Something is changing keymaps behind my back, seemingly randomly, from having: xmodmap: up to 2 keys per modifier, (keycodes in parentheses): shift Shift_L (0x32), Shift_R (0x3e) lockCaps_Lock (0x42) control Control_L (0x25), Control_R (0x6d) mod1Alt_L (0x40), Alt_

new user question about stable branch

2003-11-05 Thread Chris Ochs
Is the stable branch frozen in place except for security/bug fixes from the time it was released? I installed woody and then upgraded to kernel 2.4.18, which made me think what other packages are update from time to time. Also, I'm assuming that running woody is the best bet for mission critical

Re: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"

2003-11-05 Thread Tom
On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 10:27:32PM -0500, Mike Mueller wrote: > Mr. RH CEO tastes sour grapes because IBM dropped US$50M into Novell > effectively choosing SuSE's dance card over the RH's. Mr. RH CEO peed into > the OSS well. He should have kept his mouth shut. Then again he might be > position

Re: setting hardware clock from NIST

2003-11-05 Thread John Hasler
Don't _ask_ your ISP about timeservers: their first line support is just about guaranteed to be clueless. Just stick the nameserver IP numbers in the Chrony or Ntp config file and try them. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email t

Re: woody/sarge on Barton MoBo? kt600 and/or which nvidia

2003-11-05 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Hanasaki JiJi wrote: What motherboards have people had success/failures with for woody and sarge and Bartons with a 400fsb? Which mobo chipsets have you had good/bad experiences with? amd? nvidia? via? kt600? And with which kernels? I guess the woody distribution kernel would need t

Re: Looking for a good digital image manager

2003-11-05 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 10:14:51PM -0500, Trey Sizemore ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > I'm looking for something like PixiePlus for categorizing and editing > digital photos. PixiePlus is pretty good, but I'm looking at > alternatives. I've also tried GQview. > > So what are the favorites out ther

Re: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"

2003-11-05 Thread Mike Mueller
On Wednesday 05 November 2003 19:27, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > Not all of us care whether or not it becomes a > desktop leader.  Not all of us want it to be easy enough to use that our > moms are comfortable -- not if that means sacrificing security, > stability, or our beloved command line and te

Re: virtual terminal not working compaq armada

2003-11-05 Thread Alexander Schmehl
[ sending mail to the list, since it might be worth to be kept in the archive ] Good morning, * navaja <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [031105 16:07]: > thanks, changing to vga=791 worked... what does it do? You can run the Text-Console in different graphic modes. That is called "framebuffer mode". With v

woody/sarge on Barton MoBo? kt600 and/or which nvidia

2003-11-05 Thread Hanasaki JiJi
What motherboards have people had success/failures with for woody and sarge and Bartons with a 400fsb? Which mobo chipsets have you had good/bad experiences with? amd? nvidia? via? kt600? And with which kernels? I guess the woody distribution kernel would need to run ok

Re: Partitioning

2003-11-05 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 09:30:37AM +0100, Andreas Janssen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Hello > > Chema (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote: > > > But there is also another view that I have not seen mentioned: in > > serious servers, you can also "freeze" the most static parts of your > > system, namely /

Re: Looking for a good digital image manager

2003-11-05 Thread Jacob S.
On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 22:14:51 -0500 Trey Sizemore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm looking for something like PixiePlus for categorizing and editing > digital photos. PixiePlus is pretty good, but I'm looking at > alternatives. I've also tried GQview. > > So what are the favorites out there? Ed

Re: "locale not supported"?

2003-11-05 Thread Marc Wilson
On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 06:51:57PM -0500, Joel Konkle-Parker wrote: > I keep getting warnings along the lines of "Gdk-warning: local not > supported by C library" I'm using en-US.utf8. > Is there something I can change to make this go away? Well, since the name of the locale is "en_US.UTF8", you

Looking for a good digital image manager

2003-11-05 Thread Trey Sizemore
I'm looking for something like PixiePlus for categorizing and editing digital photos. PixiePlus is pretty good, but I'm looking at alternatives. I've also tried GQview. So what are the favorites out there? Thanks. -- Cheers, Trey --- The beauty of the soul shines out when a man bears with co

Re: setting hardware clock from NIST

2003-11-05 Thread Kirk Strauser
At 2003-11-06T02:18:09Z, Roberto Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I already consulted that list. My home is in Orlando, FL :-) > > I only got an @yahoo.es account... Gotcha. I saw the ".es" and, well, you can guess. But you still shouldn't use ntp2.usno.navy.mil; every little shareware ti

Re: OT - Documenting systems

2003-11-05 Thread Paul M Foster
On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 10:47:00PM +, Clive Menzies wrote: > Hi > > By stealth, I seem to be developing a sysadmin personality, what with the > expanding network here and increasingly getting involved in networking > on behalf of clients. I've tried various approaches to recording > details

Re: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"

2003-11-05 Thread David Millet
all I have to say is that I personally want linux to rule the desktop, simply because I will stand to make alot of money when big companies start picking it up. a lot of us will, in fact. i'm extremely confident that it will rule the desktop market, because of the speed at which the desktops h

Re: source.list won't stat (problem gone)

2003-11-05 Thread Pigeon
On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 05:43:15PM -0500, Haines Brown wrote: > > > From: Pigeon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 09:23:16AM -0500, Haines Brown wrote: > > > > I suspect as much. I find that I have two mouse sections in my X > > > configuration, and their Protocol is "PS/2",

Re: [OT] SCO's crack legal team

2003-11-05 Thread Paul William
On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 11:52, Greg Norris wrote: > I thought this might provide some much-needed amusement... My wife has > put together a picture of SCO's crack legal team, which pretty much > explains their entire strategy. Feel free to share! ;-) > >http://home.kc.rr.com/snidely/cornscolio.

Re: 2.6 kernel on sarge?

2003-11-05 Thread Sridhar M.A.
On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 04:55:05PM -0800, Bill Wohler wrote: > Has anyone running the sarge (testing) distribution installed the 2.6.0 > kernel yet? Am running 2.6.0-test9 on an AMD Athlon XP + ASUS Mo.Bo. with Nvidia drivers for my display. Systems *appears* to run faster than on a 2.4.22

User looses access to DISPLAY

2003-11-05 Thread Haines Brown
Finally bringing to conclusion my first debian (3.0r.1) install, I ran aptitude update. When I subsequently rebooted, user cannot start x, but root can. I reconfigured XF86Config-4 by running dpgk-reconfigure , using the simple configuration, which worked before, and kept the same values. But tha

Re: setting hardware clock from NIST

2003-11-05 Thread Roberto Sanchez
John Hasler wrote: The first place to look for time servers is your ISP. ISPs often run time service on their nameservers. Try them. I tried my ISP first. When I sent tech support an email asking about the NTP servers, they sent me instructions on how to setup news access. I had to explicitly s

Re: setting hardware clock from NIST

2003-11-05 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Kirk Strauser wrote: At 2003-11-05T02:18:06Z, Roberto Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: I use the ntp and ntp-simple packages. These are the public time servers I use in /etc/ntp.conf: server ntp2.usno.navy.mil server ntp-1.vt.edu server ntp-2.vt.edu Don't do that. Besides putting a load on

Help!

2003-11-05 Thread Dan Huddart
I know you guys don’t want to hear this and I apologise but:   I have never heard of this list or anything about it, yet somehow I’ve been subscribed and I can’t get off. I’ve sent the usual unsubscribe email and mailed the list master, all with no success. Please help me get off!!!   S

Re: GUI login screen.

2003-11-05 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 03:24:02PM -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > Please consider that the reason that Debian is set up with certain > defaults is that -- brace yourself -- overwhelmingly, the debian users > like it that way. Debian users tend to p

Re: Going to give it another shot-need more help

2003-11-05 Thread Mark Healey
On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 18:00:11 -0600, Kent West wrote: >Mark Healey wrote: >> On Wed, 5 Nov 2003 09:47:46 -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: >> >> >>>On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 at 06:35 GMT, Mark Healey penned: >>> On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 10:52:38 -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: >Mame cab? What

Re: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"

2003-11-05 Thread Kenward Vaughan
On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 09:44:20AM -0800, Tom wrote: ... > I like Hondas Civics myself, closest thing to a solid-state automobile > you can by. Buy it, it's fully functional without style, but damn if it > isn't headache-free :-) Heh. I'll sell you mine (nearly new). Been a headache since day

Re: i810_audio.o

2003-11-05 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 04:11:56PM -0700, Jeffrey Barish wrote: > ... But when I try to insmod > i810_audio, I get the complaint > > i810_audio.o: init_module: No such device > Hint: insmod errors can be caused by incorrect module parameters, > including invalid IO or IRQ parameters You can av

Re: GUI login screen.

2003-11-05 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 09:19:30AM -0600, Kent West wrote: > John Peter wrote: > >I don't know what else you may require - it will hardly wash your car ... > > That explains the condition of my vehicle! Well then, forget Debian. I'm > switching to No

Re: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"

2003-11-05 Thread ScruLoose
On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 05:27:11PM -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > > See my post in another thread. Different people have different visions > for the future of linux. Not all of us care whether or not it becomes a > desktop leader. Not all of us want it to be easy enough to use that our > mom

Voice dictation

2003-11-05 Thread Bill Wohler
Once upon a time, long, long, ago, I used ViaVoice from IBM to do dictation. Pretty good stuff. Earlier this year I replaced my system; today I tried to reinstall ViaVoice from the CD I had originally received from IBM. No joy. It depends on some shared libraries that are long gone. Since IBM no

file and directory permissions question...

2003-11-05 Thread Eric Walstad
Hi All, I'm trying to set up some restrictions to a couple of directories and their files and just can't seem to get it right. Here's what I'm trying to do: /foo - Only folks in the 'users' group can read, write and delete files/dirs. /bar - Only folks in the 'admin' group can read, writ

Re: setting hardware clock from NIST

2003-11-05 Thread John Hasler
The first place to look for time servers is your ISP. ISPs often run time service on their nameservers. Try them. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, Wisconsin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROT

Re: which architechture

2003-11-05 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 08:52:20AM -0700, David Millet wrote: > I'm new to the whole Debian thing, and fairly new to Linux in general. > I hated installing things via RPM, so I thought I'd give Debian a try. > But I don't know which isos to downloa

2.6 kernel on sarge?

2003-11-05 Thread Bill Wohler
Has anyone running the sarge (testing) distribution installed the 2.6.0 kernel yet? On a laptop? Did it "just work" or did you have to do some fiddling to get things right? How long did that take? -- Bill Wohler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD Maintainer of com

Re: setting hardware clock from NIST

2003-11-05 Thread Kirk Strauser
At 2003-11-05T02:18:06Z, Roberto Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I use the ntp and ntp-simple packages. These are the public time servers > I use in /etc/ntp.conf: > > server ntp2.usno.navy.mil > server ntp-1.vt.edu > server ntp-2.vt.edu Don't do that. Besides putting a load on the precio

Re: using exim directly instead of smarthost

2003-11-05 Thread ScruLoose
On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 03:34:26PM +0100, Benedict Verheyen wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 02:17:58AM +0100, Benedict Verheyen said > >> Hi, > >> > >> i have configured exim 4 and it runs fine. I use the smarthost option > >> and thus send mails via my ISP. I was wondering if i could do the sam

Re: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"

2003-11-05 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Thu, 06 Nov 2003 at 00:01 GMT, Hoyt Bailey penned: > > As ustall I will be politically incorrect but I think the following > applys to this entire subject: > > Ignore the past and you will fail Ignore the future and you have > already failed.{Unknown} > > I think RH ignored the future. Will

Re: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"

2003-11-05 Thread Hoyt Bailey
- Original Message - From: "Monique Y. Herman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 11:33 Subject: Re: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers" > On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 at 17:14 GMT, Wolfgang Pfeiffer penned: > > http://news.zdnet.co.uk/0,3902033

[totally fixed] Re: Verizon DSL (pppoeconf, WinXp, netgear rt311 don't work)

2003-11-05 Thread DvB
It finally occurred to me to check the permissions on /etc/resolv.conf and noticed that it's now a symlink to /etc/ppp/resolv.conf Both the directory (/etc/ppp) and the file (resolv.conf) were owned by root and had permissions set so that only owner and group (also root) could read them. After cha

Re: GUI login screen.

2003-11-05 Thread Hoyt Bailey
- Original Message - From: "Monique Y. Herman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 10:42 Subject: Re: GUI login screen. > On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 at 11:57 GMT, Hoyt Bailey penned: > >> > > >> > >> I think you *can* set things up such that root can

recvfrom()... configure: error

2003-11-05 Thread Sven Scherler
Hi I am trying to compile nmap 3.48 on a debian stable release. It's a base system with minimal package installation (added gcc, make, libstdc). When I run .configure I get the following output: checking for getopt_long_only... yes checking for usleep... no checking if usleep needs custom pro

Re: GUI login screen.

2003-11-05 Thread Hoyt Bailey
- Original Message - From: "Kent West" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "debian-user" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 10:53 Subject: Re: GUI login screen. > Hoyt Bailey wrote: > > > I am using gdm. If jail is over the top then you cannot know how I feel. > > This is proba

Re: Going to give it another shot-need more help

2003-11-05 Thread Kent West
Mark Healey wrote: On Wed, 5 Nov 2003 09:47:46 -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 at 06:35 GMT, Mark Healey penned: On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 10:52:38 -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: Mame cab? What is this beast? An arcade style video game cabinet. Mame is an emublator of old arcad

Re: i810_audio.o

2003-11-05 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
Jeffrey Barish wrote: To get sound out of my machine, I need three modules: sound.o, ac97_codec.o, and i810_audio.o. I know this because I see all 3 running under Knoppix, and it produces sound. With my own kernel, I come up with sound.o installed. I must install ac97_codec.o next or I get c

Re: GUI login screen.

2003-11-05 Thread Hoyt Bailey
- Original Message - From: "Stephen Touset" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Hoyt Bailey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 12:06 Subject: Re: GUI login screen. > Hoyt Bailey wrote: > > - Original Message - > > From: "Kent West" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL

Re: GUI login screen.

2003-11-05 Thread Hoyt Bailey
- Original Message - From: "Dr.-Ing. C. Hurschler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 09:24 Subject: Re: GUI login screen. > Am Mittwoch, 5. November 2003 15:27 schrieb Hoyt Bailey: > > - Original Message - > > From: "John Peter" <[EMA

Re: fully removing a user?

2003-11-05 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Thu, 06 Nov 2003 at 00:31 GMT, David Jardine penned: > > You can user deluser (configuration in /etc/deluser.conf) to remove > the files owned by the user anywhere on the system. > Ooh! Nifty! I had no idea it was configurable! -- monique PLEASE don't CC me. Please. Pretty please with s

"locale not supported"?

2003-11-05 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
I keep getting warnings along the lines of "Gdk-warning: local not supported by C library" when I install packages in gnome-terminal. I'm using en-US.utf8. Is there something I can change to make this go away? -- Joel Konkle-Parker Webmaster [Ballsome.com] Phone [+1 662-518-1636] E-mail

Re: i810_audio.o

2003-11-05 Thread Roman Joost
On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 04:11:56PM -0700, Jeffrey Barish wrote: > To get sound out of my machine, I need three modules: sound.o, > ac97_codec.o, and i810_audio.o. I know this because I see all 3 running > under Knoppix, and it produces sound. With my own kernel, I come up > with sound.o instal

i810_audio.o

2003-11-05 Thread Jeffrey Barish
To get sound out of my machine, I need three modules: sound.o, ac97_codec.o, and i810_audio.o. I know this because I see all 3 running under Knoppix, and it produces sound. With my own kernel, I come up with sound.o installed. I must install ac97_codec.o next or I get complaints about unreso

Re: fully removing a user?

2003-11-05 Thread David Jardine
On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 11:49:32PM +0100, Benedict Verheyen wrote: > Monique Y. Herman wrote: > > So, I've noticed that my home machine has some accounts lying around > > that are certainly unused -- I set up a user so that a friend could > > use my disk space, that sort of thing. > > > > Got me th

Re: hotplug problem

2003-11-05 Thread Micha Feigin
On Wed, 2003-11-05 at 05:31, Paul William wrote: > Hi > > I cant get hotplug to start. I am using a debian kernel. Hot plug says > it "can't synthesize input events - /proc/bus/input/devices missing" > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/paulb# cat /var/log/boot | grep hotplug > Wed Nov 5 16:20:19 2003:

Re: fully removing a user?

2003-11-05 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 at 22:49 GMT, Benedict Verheyen penned: > > How about this command: find / -user user This would return all files > owned by that user And if you want to search in all files for that > user name: grep -inR user / > > Regards, Benedict > > Ah, good idea! I was hoping someon

Re: [no subject]

2003-11-05 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 02:12:54PM -0600, Matt Eberhardt said > I ran cat on /dev/mouse/install and sure enough... no mouse installed... > i already have hotplug installed > how exactly do i go about installing a mouse? i am used to the distro > install handling this It requires kernel sup

[OT] SCO's crack legal team

2003-11-05 Thread Greg Norris
I thought this might provide some much-needed amusement... My wife has put together a picture of SCO's crack legal team, which pretty much explains their entire strategy. Feel free to share! ;-) http://home.kc.rr.com/snidely/cornscolio.gif -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with

Re: fully removing a user?

2003-11-05 Thread Benedict Verheyen
Monique Y. Herman wrote: > So, I've noticed that my home machine has some accounts lying around > that are certainly unused -- I set up a user so that a friend could > use my disk space, that sort of thing. > > Got me thinking ... okay, you use 'userdel -r foo', and it gets rid of > the passwd entr

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OT - Documenting systems

2003-11-05 Thread Clive Menzies
Hi By stealth, I seem to be developing a sysadmin personality, what with the expanding network here and increasingly getting involved in networking on behalf of clients. I've tried various approaches to recording details of individual components and the network but keeping them up to date is diff

Re: source.list won't stat (problem gone)

2003-11-05 Thread Haines Brown
> From: Pigeon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 09:23:16AM -0500, Haines Brown wrote: > > I suspect as much. I find that I have two mouse sections in my X > > configuration, and their Protocol is "PS/2", while my Microsoft mouse > > is an IntelliMouse, which has its own "Intelli

Re: GUI login screen.

2003-11-05 Thread Hoyt Bailey
- Original Message - From: "Colin Watson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "debian-user" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 07:37 Subject: Re: GUI login screen. > On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 06:59:02PM +1100, Rob Weir wrote: > > You can almost certainly reconfigure GDM to allow y

Re: GUI login screen.

2003-11-05 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 at 21:50 GMT, Hoyt Bailey penned: > > The point being an example of > Mainframe Mentality that seems to be growing in the Linux community > (as someone mentioned a few days ago). Everyone should consider the > future. What is the future of Linux? It should be to take over the

Exim4 - current spam setup

2003-11-05 Thread moseley
Ok, I'll try another exim4 post: I'm moving to exim4 and SA 2.60 on Woody: 1) Are there common or suggested settings to make in local.cf? 2) What RBL entries (dnslists) are you using in Exim4's ACL list? 3) Any opinions on using a sender callout feature? Will good mail get blocked? 4) Any co

Re: POP3 mail fetcher that supports unreliable connections?

2003-11-05 Thread Mark Roach
On Tue, 2003-11-04 at 16:54, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2003-11-04 10:41:10 -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > > That's because fetchmail didn't lose the mail; the delivery system did. > > In some sense, yes. But if fetchmail didn't use the delivery system, > I wouldn't have lost mail. In every s

Re: Querying packages

2003-11-05 Thread Ron Johnson
On Wed, 2003-11-05 at 13:45, Paulo Jorge wrote: > Greetings, > > I'm trying to write a script that querys the local package database to > find out which packages can be upgraded and the priority of the > available update. Do you know how can I obtain this information from the > database? The pack

Re: Going to give it another shot-need more help

2003-11-05 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 at 21:18 GMT, Mark Healey penned: > > With Redhat moving towards their Fedora scheme I figure that a move to > Debian is the best way to avoid any more surprises from another > comercial vendor. I've also noticed that most distros that are built > upon another are built upon D

Re: xfce

2003-11-05 Thread Ron Johnson
On Wed, 2003-11-05 at 13:53, Kent West wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I just installed Debian 3. I noticed it doesn't seem to have a gui > > installed. So, I went ahead and installed xfce. Stupid question, but I > > can't seem to figure out how to start it? > > > > > > >

Re: POP3 mail fetcher that supports unreliable connections?

2003-11-05 Thread Mark Roach
On Wed, 2003-11-05 at 10:08, Bijan Soleymani wrote: [...] > There is another important objective: "doing the right thing". It is > simply not acceptable to lose mail. Even if it isn't fetchmail's fault, > fetchmail should be fault-tolerant (deal with a misconfigured mail > system). Fetchmail should

Re: icewm problems

2003-11-05 Thread Thomas H. George
On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 04:41:00PM -0500, Thomas H. George wrote: > After a recent massive testing dist-upgrade (128 upgraded, 8 newly > installed and 60 removed) I have had problems getting icewm to work as > it used to. The 60 packages that were removed are almost all kde > packages and one o

Re: GUI login screen.

2003-11-05 Thread Hoyt Bailey
- Original Message - From: "Rob Weir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "debian-user" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 02:04 Subject: Re: GUI login screen. As an answer to your first comment; If I desire to configure the Control Panel I dont like to continualy have to reenter

Users can't run wvdial due to wvdial.conf permissions

2003-11-05 Thread David Jarvie
I get the following error message running wvdial as an ordinary user (not as root): Can't read config file /etc/wvdial.conf: Permission denied The permissions for the file are "--w--T " and the owner/group is root.root. The user is a member of the dialout group. I tried giving read acc

icewm problems

2003-11-05 Thread Thomas H. George
After a recent massive testing dist-upgrade (128 upgraded, 8 newly installed and 60 removed) I have had problems getting icewm to work as it used to. The 60 packages that were removed are almost all kde packages and one of the 8 newly installed was kdelibs-data. After the upgrade kdm was gone

Re: Querying packages

2003-11-05 Thread Benedict Verheyen
- Original Message - From: "Paulo Jorge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 8:45 PM Subject: Querying packages >Greetings, > >I'm trying to write a script that querys the local package database to >find out which packages can be upgraded and the

Re: Going to give it another shot-need more help

2003-11-05 Thread Mark Healey
On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 08:56:19 -0600, Kent West wrote: >Mark Healey wrote: >> >> >>>I still think that the $15 NIC would be the easiest. >> >> >> Car has no accelerator cable. > >Wedge a screwdriver in the accelerator linkage at the carburetor Carbuwhater? This is a 32 year old car and it has EFI

Re: Going to give it another shot-need more help

2003-11-05 Thread Mark Healey
On Wed, 5 Nov 2003 09:47:46 -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: >On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 at 06:35 GMT, Mark Healey penned: >> On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 10:52:38 -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: >> >>>Mame cab? What is this beast? >> >> An arcade style video game cabinet. Mame is an emublator of old >> arcade ga

Re: Miguel de Icaza on Debian

2003-11-05 Thread Tom
On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 01:06:28PM -0800, Greg Madden wrote: > I wonder why he picked Debian to slander. Money. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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