On Sat, Apr 06, 2002 at 08:48:59AM +, Martin WHEELER wrote:
> On Fri, 5 Apr 2002, Petro wrote:
>
> > You *like* upgrading 100 servers every few days?
>
> You'll have to ask the scripts that do that stuff for me :)
So you don't mind verifying ever c
On Sat, Apr 06, 2002 at 08:48:59AM +, Martin WHEELER wrote:
> On Fri, 5 Apr 2002, Petro wrote:
>
> > You *like* upgrading 100 servers every few days?
>
> You'll have to ask the scripts that do that stuff for me :)
So you don't mind verifying ever c
On Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 06:24:18PM +, Martin WHEELER wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 09:22:34AM +, Martin WHEELER wrote:
> > "Release early; release often."
>
> On Wed, 3 Apr 2002, Petro wrote:
> >
> > NO
> >
> > Measure twice,
On Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 06:24:18PM +, Martin WHEELER wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 09:22:34AM +, Martin WHEELER wrote:
> > "Release early; release often."
>
> On Wed, 3 Apr 2002, Petro wrote:
> >
> > NO
> >
> > Measure twice,
On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 09:22:34AM +, Martin WHEELER wrote:
> "Release early; release often."
NO
Measure twice, cut once.
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On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 10:56:32AM +0900, Howland, Curtis wrote:
> I would bet that the vast majority of "flame wars" begin because someone
> mistakes "terse" or "concise" for hostility.
>
> The reverse, being the endless spewing of meaningless words, all the while
> saying nothing at all or eve
On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 09:22:34AM +, Martin WHEELER wrote:
> "Release early; release often."
NO
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On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 10:56:32AM +0900, Howland, Curtis wrote:
> I would bet that the vast majority of "flame wars" begin because someone mistakes
>"terse" or "concise" for hostility.
>
> The reverse, being the endless spewing of meaningless words, all the while saying
>nothing at all or even
On Mon, Mar 25, 2002 at 06:01:45AM -0300, Luiz Carlos Santos de Alencar wrote:
> Andrew Tait wrote:
> I've checked up one of that IPs; it's being used right now by a web
> server pretty much infected with I-Worm.Nimda.A! AVG identification.
> The standard page delivers a "readme.eml" file in a pop-
On Mon, Mar 25, 2002 at 06:01:45AM -0300, Luiz Carlos Santos de Alencar wrote:
> Andrew Tait wrote:
> I've checked up one of that IPs; it's being used right now by a web
> server pretty much infected with I-Worm.Nimda.A! AVG identification.
> The standard page delivers a "readme.eml" file in a pop
On Mon, Mar 25, 2002 at 04:50:17PM -0500, Gary MacDougall wrote:
> Agreed.
> I'll never understand why people will let "crackers" reap havoc
> on a network without issue, but if someone comes up and tries
> to break into my house, the police will be there in 2 seconds.
Hate to break it to you,
On Mon, Mar 25, 2002 at 04:50:17PM -0500, Gary MacDougall wrote:
> Agreed.
> I'll never understand why people will let "crackers" reap havoc
> on a network without issue, but if someone comes up and tries
> to break into my house, the police will be there in 2 seconds.
Hate to break it to you
On Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 07:24:18PM +0100, andreas mayer wrote:
> > We seriouslly need a US branch of the law-enforcement to deal
> > with this sort of stuff. ?I think if more people got prosecuted for
> > trying to crack into a site, the level of BS would drop to zero.
> Yeah! And what if the atta
On Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 12:28:17PM -0500, timothy bauscher wrote:
> > We seriouslly need a US branch of the law-enforcement to deal
> > with this sort of stuff.
> I respect your opinion, but i would hate to
> have a new branch of government wasting my
> tax dollars. If these types of "attacks" can
On Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 07:24:18PM +0100, andreas mayer wrote:
> > We seriouslly need a US branch of the law-enforcement to deal
> > with this sort of stuff. ?I think if more people got prosecuted for
> > trying to crack into a site, the level of BS would drop to zero.
> Yeah! And what if the att
On Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 12:28:17PM -0500, timothy bauscher wrote:
> > We seriouslly need a US branch of the law-enforcement to deal
> > with this sort of stuff.
> I respect your opinion, but i would hate to
> have a new branch of government wasting my
> tax dollars. If these types of "attacks" can
On Wed, Mar 13, 2002 at 04:31:01PM +0100, Michel Verdier wrote:
> Petro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a ?crit :
>
> | > The last match is used, try to switch these ones
> |
> | I did, that is the second. I'll try it again.
>
> In fact you have 3 /var statement
On Wed, Mar 13, 2002 at 04:31:01PM +0100, Michel Verdier wrote:
> Petro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit :
>
> | > The last match is used, try to switch these ones
> |
> | I did, that is the second. I'll try it again.
>
> In fact you have 3 /var statement
On Wed, Mar 13, 2002 at 10:36:15AM +, David Hart wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 13, 2002 at 01:47:57AM +, David Hart wrote:
> Duh, sorry. As someone else has kindly pointed out,
> 'potato/woody'/'stable/testing' should be transposed :) (I really
> shouldn't post at 1:45 in the morning)
Why? Ha
On Wed, Mar 13, 2002 at 10:36:15AM +, David Hart wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 13, 2002 at 01:47:57AM +, David Hart wrote:
> Duh, sorry. As someone else has kindly pointed out,
> 'potato/woody'/'stable/testing' should be transposed :) (I really
> shouldn't post at 1:45 in the morning)
Why? H
On Tue, Mar 12, 2002 at 08:57:40PM +0100, Michel Verdier wrote:
> Petro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a ?crit :
>
> | !/var/log/ksymoops/
> | /var/log@@LOGSEARCH
> |
> | Now, according to my understanding, the ! in front of /var/log/ksymoops/
> | should be telling trip
On Tue, Mar 12, 2002 at 08:59:08AM +0100, Martin Peikert wrote:
> Petro wrote:
>
> >Is there a file-security scanner like tripwire (or like AIDE) that
> >works across a network? I'm envisioning something that does local
> >file scanning, then transmits th
On Tue, Mar 12, 2002 at 08:57:40PM +0100, Michel Verdier wrote:
> Petro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit :
>
> | !/var/log/ksymoops/
> | /var/log@@LOGSEARCH
> |
> | Now, according to my understanding, the ! in front of /var/log/ksymoops/
> | should be telling trip
On Tue, Mar 12, 2002 at 08:59:08AM +0100, Martin Peikert wrote:
> Petro wrote:
>
> >Is there a file-security scanner like tripwire (or like AIDE) that
> >works across a network? I'm envisioning something that does local
> >file scanning, then transmits th
I have tripwire installed on one of my servers (Debian Stable), and I've
managed to get the configuration pretty quiet, but I'm having a little
problem with one or two of them.
The particular section of tw.config looks like:
/var@@AW
!/var/log/ksymoops/
/var/log@@LOGSEARCH
/
I have tripwire installed on one of my servers (Debian Stable), and I've
managed to get the configuration pretty quiet, but I'm having a little
problem with one or two of them.
The particular section of tw.config looks like:
/var@@AW
!/var/log/ksymoops/
/var/log@@LOGSEARCH
For some very good reasons I had to do a mass change of passwords
on one of our exposed login machines (no breach/hack, different
reason).
There is a utility included in Debian Stable (and the others) to do
this called chpasswd.
I believe there may be some security issue
For some very good reasons I had to do a mass change of passwords
on one of our exposed login machines (no breach/hack, different
reason).
There is a utility included in Debian Stable (and the others) to do
this called chpasswd.
I believe there may be some security issu
On Thu, Feb 28, 2002 at 08:37:45AM -, Jeff wrote:
> I received this CERT Advisory about 6 hours ago, regarding PHP.
> The php website confirms the details: www.php.net
> I think this is going to be a problem for us, due to the way
> the Debian packaging works -
> I guess that the immediate so
On Thu, Feb 28, 2002 at 08:37:45AM -, Jeff wrote:
> I received this CERT Advisory about 6 hours ago, regarding PHP.
> The php website confirms the details: www.php.net
> I think this is going to be a problem for us, due to the way
> the Debian packaging works -
> I guess that the immediate s
On Mon, Feb 25, 2002 at 02:18:29PM -0700, Jerry Lynde wrote:
> True, true...
> But Michael was asking for secure, not non-anal licensing... I don't expect
> he was gonna
> try and hack BIND or djbdns or anything else...
> I just wouldn't suggest anyone use BIND is the same sense that I wouldn't
On Mon, Feb 25, 2002 at 02:18:29PM -0700, Jerry Lynde wrote:
> True, true...
> But Michael was asking for secure, not non-anal licensing... I don't expect
> he was gonna
> try and hack BIND or djbdns or anything else...
> I just wouldn't suggest anyone use BIND is the same sense that I wouldn't
On Wed, Feb 13, 2002 at 09:39:02PM -0800, Ted Cabeen wrote:
> You shouldn't use the update-rc.d script to remove init.d scripts. If you
> do, when you upgrade the package, all of the scripts should be reinstalled.
> Read the man page for update-rc.d for info on how to turn off a service and
> ensu
On Wed, Feb 13, 2002 at 09:39:02PM -0800, Ted Cabeen wrote:
> You shouldn't use the update-rc.d script to remove init.d scripts. If you
> do, when you upgrade the package, all of the scripts should be reinstalled.
> Read the man page for update-rc.d for info on how to turn off a service and
> ens
On Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 06:16:34AM -0800, martin f krafft wrote:
> assuming i have SecurID tokens with licenses, can i make linux
> authenticate based on these *without* the use of external or commercial
> software (like ACE/Server)? any experience anyone?
I don't think so.
But I'd be in
On Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 06:16:34AM -0800, martin f krafft wrote:
> assuming i have SecurID tokens with licenses, can i make linux
> authenticate based on these *without* the use of external or commercial
> software (like ACE/Server)? any experience anyone?
I don't think so.
But I'd be i
On Fri, Dec 28, 2001 at 11:18:35AM +0300, Nyarlathotep wrote:
> On Fri, 2001-12-28 at 03:22, Howland, Curtis wrote:
> > Naa, it's simian posturing. It happens with humans everywhere. I
> > enjoyed watching it in Good Will Hunting, and two days ago rented
> > Finding Forrester (same movie, differe
On Fri, Dec 28, 2001 at 11:18:35AM +0300, Nyarlathotep wrote:
> On Fri, 2001-12-28 at 03:22, Howland, Curtis wrote:
> > Naa, it's simian posturing. It happens with humans everywhere. I
> > enjoyed watching it in Good Will Hunting, and two days ago rented
> > Finding Forrester (same movie, differ
On Thu, Dec 20, 2001 at 12:42:17PM -0800, Petro wrote:
> Is this host offline for good?
> Shouldn't there be an obvious mirror of this somewhere?
I got my answer to the "obvious mirror" part, and found the
information (if not the file) that I was looking for
On Thu, Dec 20, 2001 at 04:54:01PM -0800, Brian Bilbrey wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 20, 2001 at 12:42:17PM -0800, Petro wrote:
> > Is this host offline for good?
> h. Try cdimage.debian.org (there's no 's' in the url as you put it
> in the subject: line). However
On Thu, Dec 20, 2001 at 12:42:17PM -0800, Petro wrote:
> Is this host offline for good?
> Shouldn't there be an obvious mirror of this somewhere?
I got my answer to the "obvious mirror" part, and found the
information (if not the file) that I was looking
On Thu, Dec 20, 2001 at 04:54:01PM -0800, Brian Bilbrey wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 20, 2001 at 12:42:17PM -0800, Petro wrote:
> > Is this host offline for good?
> h. Try cdimage.debian.org (there's no 's' in the url as you put it
> in the subject: line). However
Is this host offline for good?
Shouldn't there be an obvious mirror of this somewhere?
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On Mon, Dec 17, 2001 at 11:48:13PM +0900, Yooseong Yang wrote:
> >can you speak korean? if so give them a call or a nasty email for us.
> I am be shameful of this kinda spam stuffs as a korean.
> I send an email to hanmail mail administrator about this kinda
> problem. If I got some mails from who
On Mon, Dec 17, 2001 at 11:48:13PM +0900, Yooseong Yang wrote:
> >can you speak korean? if so give them a call or a nasty email for us.
> I am be shameful of this kinda spam stuffs as a korean.
> I send an email to hanmail mail administrator about this kinda
> problem. If I got some mails from wh
On Fri, Dec 14, 2001 at 06:22:03PM -0600, Daniel Rychlik wrote:
> How do I stop this from happening. Apparently my bud telented to port 25
> and somehow sent mail from my root account. Any suggestions, white papers
> or links? Id would like to block the telnet application all together, but I
> d
On Fri, Dec 14, 2001 at 06:22:03PM -0600, Daniel Rychlik wrote:
> How do I stop this from happening. Apparently my bud telented to port 25
> and somehow sent mail from my root account. Any suggestions, white papers
> or links? Id would like to block the telnet application all together, but I
>
On Tue, Dec 11, 2001 at 01:33:41AM +, Andrew Bolt wrote:
> ...unless you are from Hollywood - in which case a good encryption
> scheme is one that can be cracked by having lots of digits flash
> up on the screen, and gradually have individual digits lock into
> the correct key.
Some wierd
On Tue, Dec 11, 2001 at 01:33:41AM +, Andrew Bolt wrote:
> ...unless you are from Hollywood - in which case a good encryption
> scheme is one that can be cracked by having lots of digits flash
> up on the screen, and gradually have individual digits lock into
> the correct key.
Some wierd
On Sat, Dec 08, 2001 at 01:40:06AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> After reading a previous thread about stopping services from listening
> on certains ports, I decided to investigate things a little further for
> my system.
> So, what I can figure out is that it seems that I have only the
> foll
On Sat, Dec 08, 2001 at 01:40:06AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> After reading a previous thread about stopping services from listening
> on certains ports, I decided to investigate things a little further for
> my system.
> So, what I can figure out is that it seems that I have only the
> fol
On Thu, Nov 29, 2001 at 05:59:40PM +, Niall Walsh wrote:
> Carel Fellinger wrote:
> >On Thu, Nov 29, 2001 at 10:37:24AM +, Niall Walsh wrote:
> >>I can't resist it!
> >me too:)
> >>Add a usb digital camera to the box and only allow people who are not
> >I've thought of this too, but reject
On Thu, Nov 29, 2001 at 05:59:40PM +, Niall Walsh wrote:
> Carel Fellinger wrote:
> >On Thu, Nov 29, 2001 at 10:37:24AM +, Niall Walsh wrote:
> >>I can't resist it!
> >me too:)
> >>Add a usb digital camera to the box and only allow people who are not
> >I've thought of this too, but rejec
On Wed, Nov 28, 2001 at 10:58:47AM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote:
> Blake Barnett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Can't you give a group sudo access? If so, just add everyone to a group
> > and give that group sudo /sbin/halt or sudo /sbin/shutdown or both.
>
> That's exactly what my sudo setup
On Wed, Nov 28, 2001 at 10:58:47AM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote:
> Blake Barnett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Can't you give a group sudo access? If so, just add everyone to a group
> > and give that group sudo /sbin/halt or sudo /sbin/shutdown or both.
>
> That's exactly what my sudo setu
On Tue, Nov 27, 2001 at 12:44:23PM +0100, Janusz A. Urbanowicz wrote:
> Petro wrote/napisa?[a]/schrieb:
> > On Mon, Nov 26, 2001 at 12:17:32PM +1100, Steve Smith wrote:
> > > 3DES is generally considered strong enough. However, it is slow, and
> > > can effect performan
On Tue, Nov 27, 2001 at 12:44:23PM +0100, Janusz A. Urbanowicz wrote:
> Petro wrote/napisa?[a]/schrieb:
> > On Mon, Nov 26, 2001 at 12:17:32PM +1100, Steve Smith wrote:
> > > 3DES is generally considered strong enough. However, it is slow, and
> > > can effect pe
On Mon, Nov 26, 2001 at 12:17:32PM +1100, Steve Smith wrote:
> 3DES is generally considered strong enough. However, it is slow, and
> can effect performance. Try doing large 'scp's and switch between
DES/3DES was designed to be implemented in hardware, doing a
software-only implementatio
On Mon, Nov 26, 2001 at 12:17:32PM +1100, Steve Smith wrote:
> 3DES is generally considered strong enough. However, it is slow, and
> can effect performance. Try doing large 'scp's and switch between
DES/3DES was designed to be implemented in hardware, doing a
software-only implementati
On Mon, Nov 26, 2001 at 09:04:59AM +0900, Howland, Curtis wrote:
>
> While this may be whipping a greasy stain on the road, it is true that
> 3DES was created "by the government" back when private cryptology was
> difficult or unknown. I believe it is prudent to consider that it was
> allowed to b
On Mon, Nov 26, 2001 at 09:04:59AM +0900, Howland, Curtis wrote:
>
> While this may be whipping a greasy stain on the road, it is true that
> 3DES was created "by the government" back when private cryptology was
> difficult or unknown. I believe it is prudent to consider that it was
> allowed to
On Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 04:34:46PM +0100, Johannes Weiss wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
> Hi @all,
> I plan to install a mailserver for ca. 800 users, now I planned to make 800
> users with shell /bin/bash, home /dev/nul,...
> So, I ask you ;)), if this is a good solution
On Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 04:34:46PM +0100, Johannes Weiss wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
> Hi @all,
> I plan to install a mailserver for ca. 800 users, now I planned to make 800
> users with shell /bin/bash, home /dev/nul,...
> So, I ask you ;)), if this is a good solutio
On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 08:25:36PM -0800, Nathan E Norman wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 12:01:32PM -0800, J C Lawrence wrote:
> > On Mon, 19 Nov 2001 21:57:05 -0600
> > Nathan E Norman wrote:
> > > On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 03:26:50PM -0800, Petro wrote:
> > >&
On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 08:25:36PM -0800, Nathan E Norman wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 12:01:32PM -0800, J C Lawrence wrote:
> > On Mon, 19 Nov 2001 21:57:05 -0600
> > Nathan E Norman wrote:
> > > On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 03:26:50PM -0800, Petro wrote:
> > >&
On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 01:00:58PM -0800, Vineet Kumar wrote:
> * J C Lawrence ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [011120 12:04]:
> > On Mon, 19 Nov 2001 21:57:05 -0600
> > Nathan E Norman wrote:
> > > On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 03:26:50PM -0800, Petro wrote:
> > >> But his
On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 01:00:58PM -0800, Vineet Kumar wrote:
> * J C Lawrence ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [011120 12:04]:
> > On Mon, 19 Nov 2001 21:57:05 -0600
> > Nathan E Norman wrote:
> > > On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 03:26:50PM -0800, Petro wrote:
> > >> But his
On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 03:34:54PM +0100, Rolf Kutz wrote:
> Alexander Clouter ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>
> > I am the root guy of my own laptop and I can trust myself :) However a lot
> > of countries (uk/us and probably others, lots in the eu I would imagine)
> > have
> > encryption laws, no
On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 02:47:56PM +0100, Florian Bantner wrote:
> On Die, 20 Nov 2001, Rolf Kutz wrote:
> > Florian Bantner ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > > A fact about which I'm concerned
> > > even more than about a hack from outside via the internet etc. is
> > > real physical access to the bo
On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 12:13:05PM +0100, Rolf Kutz wrote:
> Florian Bantner ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>
> > A fact about which I'm concerned
> > even more than about a hack from outside via the internet etc. is
> > real physical access to the box. Something hackers normaly don't pay
> > enough a
On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 03:34:54PM +0100, Rolf Kutz wrote:
> Alexander Clouter ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>
> > I am the root guy of my own laptop and I can trust myself :) However a lot
> > of countries (uk/us and probably others, lots in the eu I would imagine) have
> > encryption laws, not pr
On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 02:47:56PM +0100, Florian Bantner wrote:
> On Die, 20 Nov 2001, Rolf Kutz wrote:
> > Florian Bantner ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > > A fact about which I'm concerned
> > > even more than about a hack from outside via the internet etc. is
> > > real physical access to the b
On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 12:13:05PM +0100, Rolf Kutz wrote:
> Florian Bantner ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>
> > A fact about which I'm concerned
> > even more than about a hack from outside via the internet etc. is
> > real physical access to the box. Something hackers normaly don't pay
> > enough
On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 07:57:05PM -0800, Nathan E Norman wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 03:26:50PM -0800, Petro wrote:
> > But his is hugely off topic, and I'll go no futher down this road.
>
> Could you at least honor my Mail-Followup-To: header?
I would have if
On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 07:57:05PM -0800, Nathan E Norman wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 03:26:50PM -0800, Petro wrote:
> > But his is hugely off topic, and I'll go no futher down this road.
>
> Could you at least honor my Mail-Followup-To: header?
I would have if
On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 02:14:54PM -0800, Nathan E Norman wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 01:47:40PM -0800, Petro wrote:
> > > enviroments and applications to figure out what it takes to make a
> > > system really consistent and usable for you. Even if you pick some
>
On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 12:46:21PM -0800, James Hamilton wrote:
> My Gnome/X/Debian GNU/Linux Desktop is much "slicker" than
> anything I have ever been able to do with Windows. The Gnome
> apps have a fairly consistent interface as well. There is a steeper and
> longer learning curve to learn h
On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 02:14:54PM -0800, Nathan E Norman wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 01:47:40PM -0800, Petro wrote:
> > > enviroments and applications to figure out what it takes to make a
> > > system really consistent and usable for you. Even if you pick some
>
On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 12:30:34AM -0800, Martin Christensen wrote:
> >>>>> "Petro" == Petro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Petro> On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 10:24:05AM +0900, Howland, Curtis
> Petro> wrote:
> >> ps: From a personal perspective,
On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 12:46:21PM -0800, James Hamilton wrote:
> My Gnome/X/Debian GNU/Linux Desktop is much "slicker" than
> anything I have ever been able to do with Windows. The Gnome
> apps have a fairly consistent interface as well. There is a steeper and
> longer learning curve to learn
On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 12:30:34AM -0800, Martin Christensen wrote:
> >>>>> "Petro" == Petro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Petro> On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 10:24:05AM +0900, Howland, Curtis
> Petro> wrote:
> >> ps: From a personal perspec
On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 10:24:05AM +0900, Howland, Curtis wrote:
> ps: From a personal perspective, I think Linux is about where Windows
> 3.0 was. This is not a troll, just a usability thing.
No, it's about where win3.11 was in a lot of ways. Modulo the
stability &&etc.
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On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 10:24:05AM +0900, Howland, Curtis wrote:
> ps: From a personal perspective, I think Linux is about where Windows
> 3.0 was. This is not a troll, just a usability thing.
No, it's about where win3.11 was in a lot of ways. Modulo the
stability &&etc.
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On Fri, Nov 16, 2001 at 05:39:43PM +0100, Mathias Gygax wrote:
> On Fre, Nov 16, 2001 at 08:23:27AM -0800, Micah Anderson wrote:
> > There is no way, nor any reason why, to setup a system in such a way
> > that the maintainer of the system cannot maintain it.
> maintainer is someone else. root is
On Fri, Nov 16, 2001 at 02:36:30PM +0100, Mathias Gygax wrote:
> On Fre, Nov 16, 2001 at 04:13:16AM -0900, Ethan Benson wrote:
> > > > Root is God. Anything you do on the system is potentially visible to
> > > > root.
> this is, with the right patches applied, not true.
And who has to apply th
On Fri, Nov 16, 2001 at 05:39:43PM +0100, Mathias Gygax wrote:
> On Fre, Nov 16, 2001 at 08:23:27AM -0800, Micah Anderson wrote:
> > There is no way, nor any reason why, to setup a system in such a way
> > that the maintainer of the system cannot maintain it.
> maintainer is someone else. root is
On Fri, Nov 16, 2001 at 02:36:30PM +0100, Mathias Gygax wrote:
> On Fre, Nov 16, 2001 at 04:13:16AM -0900, Ethan Benson wrote:
> > > > Root is God. Anything you do on the system is potentially visible to
> > > > root.
> this is, with the right patches applied, not true.
And who has to apply t
On Thu, Nov 15, 2001 at 11:09:41PM -0800, Craig Dickson wrote:
> Wade Richards wrote:
> > >I still say the bottom line is, if you don't trust root, don't use his
> > >machine.
> > This is the sort of absolutist nonsense that gives security experts a
> > bad name. After all, anyone armed with a cha
On Thu, Nov 15, 2001 at 10:17:39PM -0800, Wade Richards wrote:
> Also, what makes you thing root "knows what he's doing?" I suspect that
> many people with the "root" password could not install a tty sniffer or
> any other spying tool unless they could type "apt-get install ttysniffer".
dud
On Thu, Nov 15, 2001 at 11:09:41PM -0800, Craig Dickson wrote:
> Wade Richards wrote:
> > >I still say the bottom line is, if you don't trust root, don't use his
> > >machine.
> > This is the sort of absolutist nonsense that gives security experts a
> > bad name. After all, anyone armed with a ch
On Thu, Nov 15, 2001 at 10:17:39PM -0800, Wade Richards wrote:
> Also, what makes you thing root "knows what he's doing?" I suspect that
> many people with the "root" password could not install a tty sniffer or
> any other spying tool unless they could type "apt-get install ttysniffer".
du
On Mon, Nov 12, 2001 at 05:54:04PM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 13, 2001 at 10:10:10AM +0900, Howland, Curtis wrote:
> > I will gladly grant that the tar file may not exist for the boot
> > floppies, and that I do not have on hand the CD to check it. It also
> may
> > have been a Potato
On Mon, Nov 12, 2001 at 05:54:04PM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 13, 2001 at 10:10:10AM +0900, Howland, Curtis wrote:
> > I will gladly grant that the tar file may not exist for the boot
> > floppies, and that I do not have on hand the CD to check it. It also
> may
> > have been a Potat
On Thu, Nov 08, 2001 at 04:57:22PM -0500, Adam Spickler wrote:
> Is there a decent Windows FTP application that supports sftp? Unfortunately,
> I have to use Windows at work. :/
Well, there's always cygwin. It almost makes Windows liveable.
> On Thu, Nov 08, 2001 at 10:55:17PM +0100, Wich
On Thu, Nov 08, 2001 at 04:57:22PM -0500, Adam Spickler wrote:
> Is there a decent Windows FTP application that supports sftp? Unfortunately, I have
>to use Windows at work. :/
Well, there's always cygwin. It almost makes Windows liveable.
> On Thu, Nov 08, 2001 at 10:55:17PM +0100, Wich
On Mon, Oct 22, 2001 at 09:40:45AM +0300, Lauri Tischler wrote:
> Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> >
> > > I think the security secretary, if we have one, should be a Debian
> > > developer.
> >
> > We have two of them, and they are both card-carrying developers.
> >
> Unnghhh...
> 'Card-carrying' sounds
On Mon, Oct 22, 2001 at 09:40:45AM +0300, Lauri Tischler wrote:
> Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> >
> > > I think the security secretary, if we have one, should be a Debian
> > > developer.
> >
> > We have two of them, and they are both card-carrying developers.
> >
> Unnghhh...
> 'Card-carrying' sound
On Fri, Oct 19, 2001 at 09:41:22AM -0700, nrvale0 wrote:
> > maybe have a look at cfengine?
> > or apt-cache search / freshmeat / google for other options
>
> I was down this road just a few months ago. cfengine is nice except
> that the author doesn't believe that 'administrative information' is
On Fri, Oct 19, 2001 at 09:41:22AM -0700, nrvale0 wrote:
> > maybe have a look at cfengine?
> > or apt-cache search / freshmeat / google for other options
>
> I was down this road just a few months ago. cfengine is nice except
> that the author doesn't believe that 'administrative information' is
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