On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 7:26 AM, Andreas Barth wrote:
> * Andreas Barth (a...@not.so.argh.org) [091007 14:43]:
>> There are still more issues with hppa popping up than with other
>> architectures, but the general direction looks promising. For this
>> reason, we have decided that we try to avoid th
* Andreas Barth (a...@not.so.argh.org) [091007 14:43]:
> There are still more issues with hppa popping up than with other
> architectures, but the general direction looks promising. For this
> reason, we have decided that we try to avoid the additional burden of
> packages getting out of sync, and
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 4:37 PM, Florian Weimer wrote:
> * Carlos O'Donell:
>
>> The nptl enabled hppa libc packages are in experimental.
>> e.g.
>> apt-get -t experimental install libc6
>
> Out of curiosity, does this version support cross-process mutexes?
Yes, two applications that are compiled
* Carlos O'Donell:
> The nptl enabled hppa libc packages are in experimental.
> e.g.
> apt-get -t experimental install libc6
Out of curiosity, does this version support cross-process mutexes?
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On 10/07/2009 02:43 PM, Andreas Barth wrote:
* Andreas Barth (a...@not.so.argh.org) [090816 13:24]:
* Andreas Barth (a...@not.so.argh.org) [090730 16:51]:
As from release team point of view, it is necessary that there is a plan
how hppa can and will return in the forseeable future to normal mod
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 8:43 AM, Andreas Barth wrote:
> Things have become better, I'd like to thank you for that.
Thanks!
> There are still more issues with hppa popping up than with other
> architectures, but the general direction looks promising. For this
> reason, we have decided that we try
* Andreas Barth (a...@not.so.argh.org) [090816 13:24]:
> * Andreas Barth (a...@not.so.argh.org) [090730 16:51]:
> > As from release team point of view, it is necessary that there is a plan
> > how hppa can and will return in the forseeable future to normal mode of
> > operation, i.e. there are not
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 3:56 PM, dann frazier wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 03:36:48PM -0400, Carlos O'Donell wrote:
>> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:26 PM, dann frazier wrote:
>> > After about a week of loaded uptime, penalosa returned to instability
>> > over the weekend.
>> >
>> > It began with
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 03:36:48PM -0400, Carlos O'Donell wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:26 PM, dann frazier wrote:
> > After about a week of loaded uptime, penalosa returned to instability
> > over the weekend.
> >
> > It began with an Illegal instruction leading to a panic:
> > http://peopl
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:26 PM, dann frazier wrote:
> After about a week of loaded uptime, penalosa returned to instability
> over the weekend.
>
> It began with an Illegal instruction leading to a panic:
> http://people.debian.org/~dannf/penalosa/penalosa.0
>
> I then rebooted it, and the conso
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 12:10:28PM -0400, Carlos O'Donell wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 11:53 PM, dann frazier wrote:
> > We have been running with UP kernels for quite some time, and they
> > haven't proven to be any more stable. Most recently I've upgraded
> > peri/penalosa to 2.6.31-rc6-based
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 10:50 AM, Andreas Barth wrote:
> As from release team point of view, it is necessary that there is a plan
> how hppa can and will return in the forseeable future to normal mode of
> operation, i.e. there are not many issues with e.g. architecture specific
> build failures.
>
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 4:01 PM, LaMont Jones wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 02:06:36PM -0400, Carlos O'Donell wrote:
>> On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 1:06 PM, dann frazier wrote:
>> What happened to sarti? Loosing a box like that would certainly add
>> load to the others.
>
> Sarti failed to power on
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 7:31 PM, Thibaut VARENE wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 10:44 PM, LaMont Jones wrote:
>> On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 02:35:00PM -0600, dann frazier wrote:
>>> That would prevent it from getting uploaded, but won't that package
>>> get marked as built, preventing other buildds
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 10:01 PM, LaMont Jones wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 02:06:36PM -0400, Carlos O'Donell wrote:
>> On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 1:06 PM, dann frazier wrote:
>> What happened to sarti? Loosing a box like that would certainly add
>> load to the others.
>
> Sarti failed to power on
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 10:44 PM, LaMont Jones wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 02:35:00PM -0600, dann frazier wrote:
>> That would prevent it from getting uploaded, but won't that package
>> get marked as built, preventing other buildds from trying?
>
> Yep. If you just want to build packages ove
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 02:35:00PM -0600, dann frazier wrote:
> That would prevent it from getting uploaded, but won't that package
> get marked as built, preventing other buildds from trying?
Yep. If you just want to build packages over and over, then don't start
the buildd up, and just run sbui
* dann frazier (da...@debian.org) [090911 22:35]:
> On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 02:01:24PM -0600, LaMont Jones wrote:
> > On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 02:06:36PM -0400, Carlos O'Donell wrote:
> > > On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 1:06 PM, dann frazier wrote:
> > > What happened to sarti? Loosing a box like that wou
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 02:01:24PM -0600, LaMont Jones wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 02:06:36PM -0400, Carlos O'Donell wrote:
> > On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 1:06 PM, dann frazier wrote:
> > What happened to sarti? Loosing a box like that would certainly add
> > load to the others.
>
> Sarti failed
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 02:06:36PM -0400, Carlos O'Donell wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 1:06 PM, dann frazier wrote:
> What happened to sarti? Loosing a box like that would certainly add
> load to the others.
Sarti failed to power on one day.
> >> >> Are you allowed to boot a kernel/initrd tha
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 2:48 PM, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote:
>> Where is sarti physically located? Has there been an attempt to revive it?
>
> yes, its dead. we asked the local admin recently to decommission it.
Has debian asked the original sponsors for a replacement machine?
Cheers,
Carlos.
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On Fri Sep 11, 2009 at 14:15:06 -0400, Carlos O'Donell wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 2:11 PM, dann frazier wrote:
> > On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 02:06:36PM -0400, Carlos O'Donell wrote:
> >> On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 1:06 PM, dann frazier wrote:
> >> > lafayette is hosted by Thibaut @ ESIEE - I
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 2:11 PM, dann frazier wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 02:06:36PM -0400, Carlos O'Donell wrote:
>> On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 1:06 PM, dann frazier wrote:
>> > lafayette is hosted by Thibaut @ ESIEE - I'm not sure what hardware it
>> > is or what kernel it runs. It only does se
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 02:06:36PM -0400, Carlos O'Donell wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 1:06 PM, dann frazier wrote:
> > lafayette is hosted by Thibaut @ ESIEE - I'm not sure what hardware it
> > is or what kernel it runs. It only does security builds as I
> > understand it, which should keep th
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 1:06 PM, dann frazier wrote:
> lafayette is hosted by Thibaut @ ESIEE - I'm not sure what hardware it
> is or what kernel it runs. It only does security builds as I
> understand it, which should keep the load relatively low.
Thibaut indicates that this machine may be doing
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 11:10:23AM -0400, Carlos O'Donell wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 1:06 PM, dann frazier wrote:
> >> I think the way forward is:
> >> * You get me a console trace.
> >> * I give you an instrumented kernel/initrd.
> >> * Repeat.
> >
> > *nod*
>
> Trimming CC.
>
> > fyi, now
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 1:06 PM, dann frazier wrote:
>> I think the way forward is:
>> * You get me a console trace.
>> * I give you an instrumented kernel/initrd.
>> * Repeat.
>
> *nod*
Trimming CC.
> fyi, now that I've started logging the console, penalosa has become
> strangely stable:
>
> da.
[correcting lamont's e-mail]
LaMont: have you been seeing further "random segfault" bugs on
peri/penalosa over the past week or two? Is this something you can
monitor for us?
Rest inline..
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 12:10:28PM -0400, Carlos O'Donell wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 11:53 PM, dann fr
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 11:53 PM, dann frazier wrote:
> We have been running with UP kernels for quite some time, and they
> haven't proven to be any more stable. Most recently I've upgraded
> peri/penalosa to 2.6.31-rc6-based kernels since they were inclusive of
> the various changes I was pointed
On Wed, Sep 02, 2009 at 09:55:53AM -0400, Carlos O'Donell wrote:
> Dave, Kyle, Dann,
>
> What's the most stable configuration we can create for the buildds,
> even if it means crippling them with UP kernels?
Sorry Carlos - was on vacation & not good about keeping up w/ e-mail.
We have been runni
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Carlos O'Donell wrote:
> As the glibc hppa ports maintainer I can commit to the following NPTL
> transition plan:
>
> * August 30th, completed NPTL rewrite to support debian partial upgrades.
> * August 31st to September 19th testing including complex test cases.
Co
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 4:15 PM, Luk Claes wrote:
> Peter Palfrader wrote:
>> On Tue, 01 Sep 2009, Luk Claes wrote:
>>
>>> Some of the buildd kernels still cause segfaults, it would be good to
>>> have an idea what's been done for them and how long you estimate it to
>>> take to solve them.
>>
>> No
Peter Palfrader wrote:
> On Tue, 01 Sep 2009, Luk Claes wrote:
>
>> Some of the buildd kernels still cause segfaults, it would be good to
>> have an idea what's been done for them and how long you estimate it to
>> take to solve them.
>
> Not some. All of our buildd kernels are broken to various
On Tue, 01 Sep 2009, Luk Claes wrote:
> Some of the buildd kernels still cause segfaults, it would be good to
> have an idea what's been done for them and how long you estimate it to
> take to solve them.
Not some. All of our buildd kernels are broken to various degrees.
This needs to get fixed
On Wed, Sep 02, 2009 at 09:55:53AM -0400, Carlos O'Donell wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 2:29 PM, Luk Claes wrote:
> > Did I miss a plan or was there no real plan written down?
> > I'm especially thinking of some kind of milestones and deadlines about
> > the nptl transition and the buildd kernel
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 2:29 PM, Luk Claes wrote:
> Did I miss a plan or was there no real plan written down?
> I'm especially thinking of some kind of milestones and deadlines about
> the nptl transition and the buildd kernel problems.
> AFAIK the nptl transition is currently being tested, though w
Andreas Barth wrote:
> * Andreas Barth (a...@not.so.argh.org) [090730 16:51]:
>> As from release team point of view, it is necessary that there is a plan
>> how hppa can and will return in the forseeable future to normal mode of
>> operation, i.e. there are not many issues with e.g. architecture
On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 1:33 AM, Frans Pop wrote:
>> Good. I might still break this package because libcdio is blocking
>> lots of binNMUs, and we need to try to keep transitions as small as
>> possible, but of course as soon as this package is fixed it's welcome
>> to get in sync (and if you need
Andreas Barth wrote:
> BTW, I'm still missing the vlc upload for hppa (as well as for mipsel,
> but the mipsel problem is found + solved on IRC).
Built but awaiting upload together with 124 other packages :-(
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* Frans Pop (elen...@planet.nl) [090822 07:34]:
> Andreas Barth wrote:
> > * Carlos O'Donell (car...@systemhalted.org) [090821 16:49]:
> > >> xmms2 is the only package that doesn't build.
> >>
> >> Analysis of the xmms2 build shows that this is a python crash.
> >> Thankfully the python crash rep
Andreas Barth wrote:
> * Carlos O'Donell (car...@systemhalted.org) [090821 16:49]:
> >> xmms2 is the only package that doesn't build.
>>
>> Analysis of the xmms2 build shows that this is a python crash.
>> Thankfully the python crash reproduces (in a different location each
>> time). I'll look in
* Carlos O'Donell (car...@systemhalted.org) [090821 16:49]:
> On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 7:24 AM, Andreas Barth wrote:
> > As an current exmaple, take the libcdio-transition. This transition
> > needs to have updated packages xmms2, xmp and vlc. However, the
> > packages are out-of-date on hppa, and f
On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 7:24 AM, Andreas Barth wrote:
> As an current exmaple, take the libcdio-transition. This transition
> needs to have updated packages xmms2, xmp and vlc. However, the
> packages are out-of-date on hppa, and for this reason cannot enter
> testing (and they depend on an old lib
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 9:20 AM, Andreas Barth wrote:
> * Carlos O'Donell (car...@systemhalted.org) [090819 14:56]:
>> I didn't know vlc, xmms2, and xmp were not building. I'll add them to
>> my list and look over the failures. I don't know how to get visibility
>> into what's failing for hppa.
>
>
* Carlos O'Donell (car...@systemhalted.org) [090819 14:56]:
> I didn't know vlc, xmms2, and xmp were not building. I'll add them to
> my list and look over the failures. I don't know how to get visibility
> into what's failing for hppa.
Basically, by e.g. checking the testing excuse page which pac
On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Andreas Barth wrote:
>> Or are you simply asking the hppa porters to be more active in filing
>> FTBFS bugs against packages after build failures?
>
> If they would do that, that might be quite helpful to distinguish
> between "hppa issue" and "package issue".
I d
* Frans Pop (elen...@planet.nl) [090816 15:57]:
> Andreas Barth wrote:
> > As an current exmaple, take the libcdio-transition. This transition
> > needs to have updated packages xmms2, xmp and vlc. However, the
> > packages are out-of-date on hppa, and for this reason cannot enter
> > testing (and
Frans Pop wrote:
> Andreas Barth wrote:
>> As an current exmaple, take the libcdio-transition. This transition
>> needs to have updated packages xmms2, xmp and vlc. However, the
>> packages are out-of-date on hppa, and for this reason cannot enter
>> testing (and they depend on an old library that
Andreas Barth wrote:
> As an current exmaple, take the libcdio-transition. This transition
> needs to have updated packages xmms2, xmp and vlc. However, the
> packages are out-of-date on hppa, and for this reason cannot enter
> testing (and they depend on an old library that will go away with the
>
* Andreas Barth (a...@not.so.argh.org) [090730 16:51]:
> As from release team point of view, it is necessary that there is a plan
> how hppa can and will return in the forseeable future to normal mode of
> operation, i.e. there are not many issues with e.g. architecture specific
> build failures.
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 1:14 PM, John David
Anglin wrote:
>> End of assembler dump.
>> (gdb) p/x $r21
>> $2 = 0x1
>
> From the values in the core dump and the code, I calculate that r21
> should contain the value 0x40368880. So, it seems another instance
> of cache corruption. However, in this cas
> End of assembler dump.
> (gdb) p/x $r21
> $2 = 0x1
>From the values in the core dump and the code, I calculate that r21
should contain the value 0x40368880. So, it seems another instance
of cache corruption. However, in this case, it's not at program
startup.
Dave
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>> In summary, the segfault problem is still there and a major issue,
>> particularly with SMP kernels. Without a testcase that consistently
>> triggers the problem, it's almost impossible to debug what's going
>> wrong.
I have updated and attached my patch set for 2.6.30.4. So, changes
are now
On 2009-08-01, Andreas Barth wrote:
> * Helge Deller (del...@gmx.de) [090731 23:32]:
>> So, if we have stability problems on the most important machines,
>> which are the debian build servers, then maybe some thoughts should be
>> given to replace those machines by slower but at least stable machi
* Helge Deller (del...@gmx.de) [090731 23:32]:
> So, if we have stability problems on the most important machines,
> which are the debian build servers, then maybe some thoughts should be
> given to replace those machines by slower but at least stable machines,
> like e.g. a C3000 ?
We need to hav
On 07/30/2009 07:44 PM, John David Anglin wrote:
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 10:50 AM, Andreas Barth wrote:
You know your porters mailing list best, but I want to highlight some of
the issues:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-hppa/2009/07/msg2.html
I can't comment on this issue. I hope Dave can?
On Thu, 30 Jul 2009, Carlos O'Donell wrote:
> In your opinion, what is the most stable kernel configuration that
> should be run on the buildds?
If the buildd has to run a SMP kernel, then 2.6.22.19 as patched for gsyprf11.
There is a minor issue wrt setting the RTC at startup, but it can be work
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 01:44:03PM -0400, John David Anglin wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 10:50 AM, Andreas Barth wrote:
> > > You know your porters mailing list best, but I want to highlight some of
> > > the issues:
> > > http://lists.debian.org/debian-hppa/2009/07/msg2.html
> >
> > I c
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 1:44 PM, John David
Anglin wrote:
>> On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 10:50 AM, Andreas Barth wrote:
>> > You know your porters mailing list best, but I want to highlight some of
>> > the issues:
>> > http://lists.debian.org/debian-hppa/2009/07/msg2.html
>>
>> I can't comment on
> On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 10:50 AM, Andreas Barth wrote:
> > You know your porters mailing list best, but I want to highlight some of
> > the issues:
> > http://lists.debian.org/debian-hppa/2009/07/msg2.html
>
> I can't comment on this issue. I hope Dave can?
Over the past few weeks, I have b
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 10:50 AM, Andreas Barth wrote:
> You know your porters mailing list best, but I want to highlight some of
> the issues:
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-hppa/2009/07/msg2.html
I can't comment on this issue. I hope Dave can?
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-hppa/2009/07
Hi,
there are some issues in the hppa port that currently let us doubt whether
we should continue to carry on that port to next stable. Apart the fact
that hppa is no longer buyable as new, there are quite a few technical
issues.
You know your porters mailing list best, but I want to highlight so
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