Re: gcrypt7/gnutls10 => gcrypt11/gnutls11 for Sarge

2004-07-28 Thread Pierre Machard
Hi, On Sun, Jul 25, 2004 at 09:48:21AM +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote: > Hi, Andreas Metzler wrote: > > > Bad news for you. :-( This change in the new gnutls10 > > | * Use hevea, not latex2html. > > makes it FTBFS on hppa, m68k, mips, mipsel, s390 because hevea is > > uninstallable in these archi

Re: gcrypt7/gnutls10 => gcrypt11/gnutls11 for Sarge

2004-07-28 Thread Pierre Machard
Hi, On Wed, Jul 28, 2004 at 02:13:02AM +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote: > > > Andreas Metzler wrote: > > GnuTLS currently uses cdbs, which makes it difficult (or impossible?) > > to make use of Build-Depends-Indep. > > I have decided to move the documentation to contrib. > > The LaTeX code conta

Re: gcrypt7/gnutls10 => gcrypt11/gnutls11 for Sarge

2004-07-27 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Andreas Metzler wrote: > GnuTLS currently uses cdbs, which makes it difficult (or impossible?) > to make use of Build-Depends-Indep. I have decided to move the documentation to contrib. The LaTeX code contains latex2html-specific macros which are nontrivial to modify. The attempt at Hevea-izati

Re: gcrypt7/gnutls10 => gcrypt11/gnutls11 for Sarge

2004-07-25 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2004-07-25 Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Jul 25, 2004 at 09:48:21AM +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote: [hevea] > > Any other latex >= HTML converters which don't require an in-depth latex > > knowledge to adapt to? (I had help with hevea...) > Is there any chance this could be

Re: gcrypt7/gnutls10 => gcrypt11/gnutls11 for Sarge

2004-07-25 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, Jul 25, 2004 at 09:48:21AM +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote: > Hi, Andreas Metzler wrote: > > Bad news for you. :-( This change in the new gnutls10 > > | * Use hevea, not latex2html. > > makes it FTBFS on hppa, m68k, mips, mipsel, s390 because hevea is > > uninstallable in these architecture

Re: gcrypt7/gnutls10 => gcrypt11/gnutls11 for Sarge

2004-07-25 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Andreas Metzler wrote: > Bad news for you. :-( This change in the new gnutls10 > | * Use hevea, not latex2html. > makes it FTBFS on hppa, m68k, mips, mipsel, s390 because hevea is > uninstallable in these architectures, as ocaml does not build on these > anymore. Yowch. Any other latex >= H

Re: gcrypt7/gnutls10 => gcrypt11/gnutls11 for Sarge

2004-07-25 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2004-07-24 Matthias Urlichs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I will upload a gnutls10 which builds against the new version > later today. [...] Bad news for you. :-( This change in the new gnutls10 | * Use hevea, not latex2html. makes it FTBFS on hppa, m68k, mips, mipsel, s390 because hevea is uni

Re: gcrypt7/gnutls10 => gcrypt11/gnutls11 for Sarge

2004-07-24 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, > ... on second thought ... and since nothing in Debian (except gnutls*) is > using libopencdk ... .. and on third thought ... since libtool obsoletes the need of foo-dev to depend on bar-dev ... we can actually forget about the interim opencdk8.11 package. In other words, even though libope

Re: gcrypt7/gnutls10 => gcrypt11/gnutls11 for Sarge

2004-07-24 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Kenshi Muto wrote: > OK, I and Sebastien took worst method. X-( > I didn't want to change libcupsys2 name, but we did... The libcupsys2 renaming could have been avoided... oh well, you always know better *afterwards*. > Must I revert the package name to libcupsys2? Or provide new package, >

Re: gcrypt7/gnutls10 => gcrypt11/gnutls11 for Sarge

2004-07-24 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, Jul 25, 2004 at 07:08:24AM +0900, Kenshi Muto wrote: > At Sat, 24 Jul 2004 19:23:32 +0200, > Andreas Metzler wrote: > > * contrary to the last transition (libcupsys2 -> libcupsys-2gnutls10) > > different versions of gnutls and gcrypt can co-exist in the archive. > > Of course the last tr

Re: gcrypt7/gnutls10 => gcrypt11/gnutls11 for Sarge

2004-07-24 Thread Kenshi Muto
Hi, At Sat, 24 Jul 2004 19:23:32 +0200, Andreas Metzler wrote: > * contrary to the last transition (libcupsys2 -> libcupsys-2gnutls10) > different versions of gnutls and gcrypt can co-exist in the archive. > > Of course the last transition was as bad as possible, so "smoother" is > not necessar

Re: gcrypt7/gnutls10 => gcrypt11/gnutls11 for Sarge

2004-07-24 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Matthias Urlichs wrote: > I could create a opencdk8.11 package, but that'd need different library > versioning tags, which would be incompatible with Upstream and presumably > cause problems with non-Debian binaries. I can do that if there's a > consensus that this is not going to be much of a

Re: gcrypt7/gnutls10 => gcrypt11/gnutls11 for Sarge

2004-07-24 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Steve Langasek wrote: > I would recommend re-uploading gnutls11 and gcrypt11 to unstable > immediately; I don't see any reason why the addition of new library > packages needs to be staged in experimental, this would be more of an > issue for packages *depending* on such libraries. Unfortunat

Re: gcrypt7/gnutls10 => gcrypt11/gnutls11 for Sarge

2004-07-24 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Jul 24, 2004 at 05:35:59PM +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote: > * gnutls10 and gcrypt7 are *seriously* out-of-date Upstream; > * Upstream urges us to not distribute them in Sarge (cf. bug #258975): > >> FWIW, I want to restate that I consider it a *very bad idea* to go > >> with libgcrypt7

Re: gcrypt7/gnutls10 => gcrypt11/gnutls11 for Sarge

2004-07-24 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Andreas Metzler wrote: > Of course the last transition was as bad as possible, so "smoother" is > not necessarily "smooth enough". I define "smooth enough" as "nothing breaks" (which isn't broken already). (The d-i people will probably have some remarks about this assertion...) > I am not su

Re: gcrypt7/gnutls10 => gcrypt11/gnutls11 for Sarge

2004-07-24 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, J.H.M. Dassen Ray wrote: > On Sat, Jul 24, 2004 at 17:35:59 +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote: >> * the API changes are minor and only require recompilation; > > "only [...] recompilation". Please provide details on the number of packages > this affects. The last gnutls change affected 400+ packa

Re: gcrypt7/gnutls10 => gcrypt11/gnutls11 for Sarge

2004-07-24 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2004-07-24 "J.H.M. Dassen (Ray)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, Jul 24, 2004 at 17:35:59 +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote: > > * the API changes are minor and only require recompilation; > "only [...] recompilation". Please provide details on the number of > packages this affects. The last g

Re: gcrypt7/gnutls10 => gcrypt11/gnutls11 for Sarge

2004-07-24 Thread J.H.M. Dassen (Ray)
On Sat, Jul 24, 2004 at 17:35:59 +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote: > * the API changes are minor and only require recompilation; "only [...] recompilation". Please provide details on the number of packages this affects. The last gnutls change affected 400+ packages (KDE, GNOME, cups, ...) and tooks m

gcrypt7/gnutls10 => gcrypt11/gnutls11 for Sarge

2004-07-24 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, given that * gnutls10 and gcrypt7 are *seriously* out-of-date Upstream; * Upstream urges us to not distribute them in Sarge (cf. bug #258975): >> FWIW, I want to restate that I consider it a *very bad idea* to go >> with libgcrypt7 for the Sarge release. We did not declared that >> rel