On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 7:26 AM, Andreas Barth wrote:
> * Andreas Barth (a...@not.so.argh.org) [091007 14:43]:
>> There are still more issues with hppa popping up than with other
>> architectures, but the general direction looks promising. For this
>> reason, we have decided that we try to avoid th
* Andreas Barth (a...@not.so.argh.org) [091007 14:43]:
> There are still more issues with hppa popping up than with other
> architectures, but the general direction looks promising. For this
> reason, we have decided that we try to avoid the additional burden of
> packages getting out of sync, and
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 4:37 PM, Florian Weimer wrote:
> * Carlos O'Donell:
>
>> The nptl enabled hppa libc packages are in experimental.
>> e.g.
>> apt-get -t experimental install libc6
>
> Out of curiosity, does this version support cross-process mutexes?
Yes, two applications that are compiled
* Carlos O'Donell:
> The nptl enabled hppa libc packages are in experimental.
> e.g.
> apt-get -t experimental install libc6
Out of curiosity, does this version support cross-process mutexes?
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On 10/07/2009 02:43 PM, Andreas Barth wrote:
* Andreas Barth (a...@not.so.argh.org) [090816 13:24]:
* Andreas Barth (a...@not.so.argh.org) [090730 16:51]:
As from release team point of view, it is necessary that there is a plan
how hppa can and will return in the forseeable future to normal mod
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 8:43 AM, Andreas Barth wrote:
> Things have become better, I'd like to thank you for that.
Thanks!
> There are still more issues with hppa popping up than with other
> architectures, but the general direction looks promising. For this
> reason, we have decided that we try
* Andreas Barth (a...@not.so.argh.org) [090816 13:24]:
> * Andreas Barth (a...@not.so.argh.org) [090730 16:51]:
> > As from release team point of view, it is necessary that there is a plan
> > how hppa can and will return in the forseeable future to normal mode of
> > operation, i.e. there are not
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 3:56 PM, dann frazier wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 03:36:48PM -0400, Carlos O'Donell wrote:
>> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:26 PM, dann frazier wrote:
>> > After about a week of loaded uptime, penalosa returned to instability
>> > over the weekend.
>> >
>> > It began with
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 03:36:48PM -0400, Carlos O'Donell wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:26 PM, dann frazier wrote:
> > After about a week of loaded uptime, penalosa returned to instability
> > over the weekend.
> >
> > It began with an Illegal instruction leading to a panic:
> > http://peopl
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:26 PM, dann frazier wrote:
> After about a week of loaded uptime, penalosa returned to instability
> over the weekend.
>
> It began with an Illegal instruction leading to a panic:
> http://people.debian.org/~dannf/penalosa/penalosa.0
>
> I then rebooted it, and the conso
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 12:10:28PM -0400, Carlos O'Donell wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 11:53 PM, dann frazier wrote:
> > We have been running with UP kernels for quite some time, and they
> > haven't proven to be any more stable. Most recently I've upgraded
> > peri/penalosa to 2.6.31-rc6-based
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 10:50 AM, Andreas Barth wrote:
> As from release team point of view, it is necessary that there is a plan
> how hppa can and will return in the forseeable future to normal mode of
> operation, i.e. there are not many issues with e.g. architecture specific
> build failures.
>
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 4:01 PM, LaMont Jones wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 02:06:36PM -0400, Carlos O'Donell wrote:
>> On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 1:06 PM, dann frazier wrote:
>> What happened to sarti? Loosing a box like that would certainly add
>> load to the others.
>
> Sarti failed to power on
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 7:31 PM, Thibaut VARENE wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 10:44 PM, LaMont Jones wrote:
>> On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 02:35:00PM -0600, dann frazier wrote:
>>> That would prevent it from getting uploaded, but won't that package
>>> get marked as built, preventing other buildds
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 10:01 PM, LaMont Jones wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 02:06:36PM -0400, Carlos O'Donell wrote:
>> On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 1:06 PM, dann frazier wrote:
>> What happened to sarti? Loosing a box like that would certainly add
>> load to the others.
>
> Sarti failed to power on
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 10:44 PM, LaMont Jones wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 02:35:00PM -0600, dann frazier wrote:
>> That would prevent it from getting uploaded, but won't that package
>> get marked as built, preventing other buildds from trying?
>
> Yep. If you just want to build packages ove
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 02:35:00PM -0600, dann frazier wrote:
> That would prevent it from getting uploaded, but won't that package
> get marked as built, preventing other buildds from trying?
Yep. If you just want to build packages over and over, then don't start
the buildd up, and just run sbui
* dann frazier (da...@debian.org) [090911 22:35]:
> On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 02:01:24PM -0600, LaMont Jones wrote:
> > On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 02:06:36PM -0400, Carlos O'Donell wrote:
> > > On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 1:06 PM, dann frazier wrote:
> > > What happened to sarti? Loosing a box like that wou
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 02:01:24PM -0600, LaMont Jones wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 02:06:36PM -0400, Carlos O'Donell wrote:
> > On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 1:06 PM, dann frazier wrote:
> > What happened to sarti? Loosing a box like that would certainly add
> > load to the others.
>
> Sarti failed
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 02:06:36PM -0400, Carlos O'Donell wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 1:06 PM, dann frazier wrote:
> What happened to sarti? Loosing a box like that would certainly add
> load to the others.
Sarti failed to power on one day.
> >> >> Are you allowed to boot a kernel/initrd tha
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 2:48 PM, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote:
>> Where is sarti physically located? Has there been an attempt to revive it?
>
> yes, its dead. we asked the local admin recently to decommission it.
Has debian asked the original sponsors for a replacement machine?
Cheers,
Carlos.
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On Fri Sep 11, 2009 at 14:15:06 -0400, Carlos O'Donell wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 2:11 PM, dann frazier wrote:
> > On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 02:06:36PM -0400, Carlos O'Donell wrote:
> >> On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 1:06 PM, dann frazier wrote:
> >> > lafayette is hosted by Thibaut @ ESIEE - I
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 2:11 PM, dann frazier wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 02:06:36PM -0400, Carlos O'Donell wrote:
>> On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 1:06 PM, dann frazier wrote:
>> > lafayette is hosted by Thibaut @ ESIEE - I'm not sure what hardware it
>> > is or what kernel it runs. It only does se
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 02:06:36PM -0400, Carlos O'Donell wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 1:06 PM, dann frazier wrote:
> > lafayette is hosted by Thibaut @ ESIEE - I'm not sure what hardware it
> > is or what kernel it runs. It only does security builds as I
> > understand it, which should keep th
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 1:06 PM, dann frazier wrote:
> lafayette is hosted by Thibaut @ ESIEE - I'm not sure what hardware it
> is or what kernel it runs. It only does security builds as I
> understand it, which should keep the load relatively low.
Thibaut indicates that this machine may be doing
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 11:10:23AM -0400, Carlos O'Donell wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 1:06 PM, dann frazier wrote:
> >> I think the way forward is:
> >> * You get me a console trace.
> >> * I give you an instrumented kernel/initrd.
> >> * Repeat.
> >
> > *nod*
>
> Trimming CC.
>
> > fyi, now
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 1:06 PM, dann frazier wrote:
>> I think the way forward is:
>> * You get me a console trace.
>> * I give you an instrumented kernel/initrd.
>> * Repeat.
>
> *nod*
Trimming CC.
> fyi, now that I've started logging the console, penalosa has become
> strangely stable:
>
> da.
[correcting lamont's e-mail]
LaMont: have you been seeing further "random segfault" bugs on
peri/penalosa over the past week or two? Is this something you can
monitor for us?
Rest inline..
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 12:10:28PM -0400, Carlos O'Donell wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 11:53 PM, dann fr
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 11:53 PM, dann frazier wrote:
> We have been running with UP kernels for quite some time, and they
> haven't proven to be any more stable. Most recently I've upgraded
> peri/penalosa to 2.6.31-rc6-based kernels since they were inclusive of
> the various changes I was pointed
On Wed, Sep 02, 2009 at 09:55:53AM -0400, Carlos O'Donell wrote:
> Dave, Kyle, Dann,
>
> What's the most stable configuration we can create for the buildds,
> even if it means crippling them with UP kernels?
Sorry Carlos - was on vacation & not good about keeping up w/ e-mail.
We have been runni
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Carlos O'Donell wrote:
> As the glibc hppa ports maintainer I can commit to the following NPTL
> transition plan:
>
> * August 30th, completed NPTL rewrite to support debian partial upgrades.
> * August 31st to September 19th testing including complex test cases.
Co
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 4:15 PM, Luk Claes wrote:
> Peter Palfrader wrote:
>> On Tue, 01 Sep 2009, Luk Claes wrote:
>>
>>> Some of the buildd kernels still cause segfaults, it would be good to
>>> have an idea what's been done for them and how long you estimate it to
>>> take to solve them.
>>
>> No
Peter Palfrader wrote:
> On Tue, 01 Sep 2009, Luk Claes wrote:
>
>> Some of the buildd kernels still cause segfaults, it would be good to
>> have an idea what's been done for them and how long you estimate it to
>> take to solve them.
>
> Not some. All of our buildd kernels are broken to various
On Tue, 01 Sep 2009, Luk Claes wrote:
> Some of the buildd kernels still cause segfaults, it would be good to
> have an idea what's been done for them and how long you estimate it to
> take to solve them.
Not some. All of our buildd kernels are broken to various degrees.
This needs to get fixed
On Wed, Sep 02, 2009 at 09:55:53AM -0400, Carlos O'Donell wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 2:29 PM, Luk Claes wrote:
> > Did I miss a plan or was there no real plan written down?
> > I'm especially thinking of some kind of milestones and deadlines about
> > the nptl transition and the buildd kernel
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 2:29 PM, Luk Claes wrote:
> Did I miss a plan or was there no real plan written down?
> I'm especially thinking of some kind of milestones and deadlines about
> the nptl transition and the buildd kernel problems.
> AFAIK the nptl transition is currently being tested, though w
Andreas Barth wrote:
> * Andreas Barth (a...@not.so.argh.org) [090730 16:51]:
>> As from release team point of view, it is necessary that there is a plan
>> how hppa can and will return in the forseeable future to normal mode of
>> operation, i.e. there are not many issues with e.g. architecture
On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 1:33 AM, Frans Pop wrote:
>> Good. I might still break this package because libcdio is blocking
>> lots of binNMUs, and we need to try to keep transitions as small as
>> possible, but of course as soon as this package is fixed it's welcome
>> to get in sync (and if you need
Andreas Barth wrote:
> BTW, I'm still missing the vlc upload for hppa (as well as for mipsel,
> but the mipsel problem is found + solved on IRC).
Built but awaiting upload together with 124 other packages :-(
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* Frans Pop (elen...@planet.nl) [090822 07:34]:
> Andreas Barth wrote:
> > * Carlos O'Donell (car...@systemhalted.org) [090821 16:49]:
> > >> xmms2 is the only package that doesn't build.
> >>
> >> Analysis of the xmms2 build shows that this is a python crash.
> >> Thankfully the python crash rep
Andreas Barth wrote:
> * Carlos O'Donell (car...@systemhalted.org) [090821 16:49]:
> >> xmms2 is the only package that doesn't build.
>>
>> Analysis of the xmms2 build shows that this is a python crash.
>> Thankfully the python crash reproduces (in a different location each
>> time). I'll look in
* Carlos O'Donell (car...@systemhalted.org) [090821 16:49]:
> On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 7:24 AM, Andreas Barth wrote:
> > As an current exmaple, take the libcdio-transition. This transition
> > needs to have updated packages xmms2, xmp and vlc. However, the
> > packages are out-of-date on hppa, and f
On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 7:24 AM, Andreas Barth wrote:
> As an current exmaple, take the libcdio-transition. This transition
> needs to have updated packages xmms2, xmp and vlc. However, the
> packages are out-of-date on hppa, and for this reason cannot enter
> testing (and they depend on an old lib
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 9:20 AM, Andreas Barth wrote:
> * Carlos O'Donell (car...@systemhalted.org) [090819 14:56]:
>> I didn't know vlc, xmms2, and xmp were not building. I'll add them to
>> my list and look over the failures. I don't know how to get visibility
>> into what's failing for hppa.
>
>
* Carlos O'Donell (car...@systemhalted.org) [090819 14:56]:
> I didn't know vlc, xmms2, and xmp were not building. I'll add them to
> my list and look over the failures. I don't know how to get visibility
> into what's failing for hppa.
Basically, by e.g. checking the testing excuse page which pac
On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Andreas Barth wrote:
>> Or are you simply asking the hppa porters to be more active in filing
>> FTBFS bugs against packages after build failures?
>
> If they would do that, that might be quite helpful to distinguish
> between "hppa issue" and "package issue".
I d
* Frans Pop (elen...@planet.nl) [090816 15:57]:
> Andreas Barth wrote:
> > As an current exmaple, take the libcdio-transition. This transition
> > needs to have updated packages xmms2, xmp and vlc. However, the
> > packages are out-of-date on hppa, and for this reason cannot enter
> > testing (and
Frans Pop wrote:
> Andreas Barth wrote:
>> As an current exmaple, take the libcdio-transition. This transition
>> needs to have updated packages xmms2, xmp and vlc. However, the
>> packages are out-of-date on hppa, and for this reason cannot enter
>> testing (and they depend on an old library that
Andreas Barth wrote:
> As an current exmaple, take the libcdio-transition. This transition
> needs to have updated packages xmms2, xmp and vlc. However, the
> packages are out-of-date on hppa, and for this reason cannot enter
> testing (and they depend on an old library that will go away with the
>
* Andreas Barth (a...@not.so.argh.org) [090730 16:51]:
> As from release team point of view, it is necessary that there is a plan
> how hppa can and will return in the forseeable future to normal mode of
> operation, i.e. there are not many issues with e.g. architecture specific
> build failures.
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 1:14 PM, John David
Anglin wrote:
>> End of assembler dump.
>> (gdb) p/x $r21
>> $2 = 0x1
>
> From the values in the core dump and the code, I calculate that r21
> should contain the value 0x40368880. So, it seems another instance
> of cache corruption. However, in this cas
> End of assembler dump.
> (gdb) p/x $r21
> $2 = 0x1
>From the values in the core dump and the code, I calculate that r21
should contain the value 0x40368880. So, it seems another instance
of cache corruption. However, in this case, it's not at program
startup.
Dave
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>> In summary, the segfault problem is still there and a major issue,
>> particularly with SMP kernels. Without a testcase that consistently
>> triggers the problem, it's almost impossible to debug what's going
>> wrong.
I have updated and attached my patch set for 2.6.30.4. So, changes
are now
On 2009-08-01, Andreas Barth wrote:
> * Helge Deller (del...@gmx.de) [090731 23:32]:
>> So, if we have stability problems on the most important machines,
>> which are the debian build servers, then maybe some thoughts should be
>> given to replace those machines by slower but at least stable machi
* Helge Deller (del...@gmx.de) [090731 23:32]:
> So, if we have stability problems on the most important machines,
> which are the debian build servers, then maybe some thoughts should be
> given to replace those machines by slower but at least stable machines,
> like e.g. a C3000 ?
We need to hav
On 07/30/2009 07:44 PM, John David Anglin wrote:
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 10:50 AM, Andreas Barth wrote:
You know your porters mailing list best, but I want to highlight some of
the issues:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-hppa/2009/07/msg2.html
I can't comment on this issue. I hope Dave can?
On Thu, 30 Jul 2009, Carlos O'Donell wrote:
> In your opinion, what is the most stable kernel configuration that
> should be run on the buildds?
If the buildd has to run a SMP kernel, then 2.6.22.19 as patched for gsyprf11.
There is a minor issue wrt setting the RTC at startup, but it can be work
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 01:44:03PM -0400, John David Anglin wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 10:50 AM, Andreas Barth wrote:
> > > You know your porters mailing list best, but I want to highlight some of
> > > the issues:
> > > http://lists.debian.org/debian-hppa/2009/07/msg2.html
> >
> > I c
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 1:44 PM, John David
Anglin wrote:
>> On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 10:50 AM, Andreas Barth wrote:
>> > You know your porters mailing list best, but I want to highlight some of
>> > the issues:
>> > http://lists.debian.org/debian-hppa/2009/07/msg2.html
>>
>> I can't comment on
> On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 10:50 AM, Andreas Barth wrote:
> > You know your porters mailing list best, but I want to highlight some of
> > the issues:
> > http://lists.debian.org/debian-hppa/2009/07/msg2.html
>
> I can't comment on this issue. I hope Dave can?
Over the past few weeks, I have b
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 10:50 AM, Andreas Barth wrote:
> You know your porters mailing list best, but I want to highlight some of
> the issues:
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-hppa/2009/07/msg2.html
I can't comment on this issue. I hope Dave can?
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-hppa/2009/07
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