Re: Please unblock lilypond

2008-10-07 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Tue, 2008-10-07 at 13:35 +0200, Michael Meskes wrote: > After offending Thomas by NMUing lilypond without correctly following the NMU > rules which I feel sorry about, I'd still like to ask you to unblock lilypond > because my NMU fixed a release goal bug (one of the last open double-build > bug

Re: removing libdb 4.3

2008-10-05 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Sun, 2008-10-05 at 15:04 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > The bug on mmorph was not filed by the db maintainers, it was filed by a > release manager. I guess mmorph was overlooked when the db maintainers > filed bugs requesting migration to db4.6 a year ago. That's unfortunate, > but it's not a

NMU rules?

2008-10-05 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Have the NMU rules recently been changed in a way I was unaware of? I recently encountered a 0-day NMU of a package of mine to fix an important bug, a normal bug, and a non-bug, without any patch posted to the bug log. In my judgment, it is unlikely that the release team would welcome this upload

Re: removing libdb 4.3

2008-10-05 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Sun, 2008-10-05 at 10:24 +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > On Fri, Oct 03, 2008 at 04:59:03PM +0000, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > > I completely agree that libdb4.3 is ancient grot, and it should be > > removed from the archive. > > > > I am distressed that the mainta

removing libdb 4.3

2008-10-03 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
I completely agree that libdb4.3 is ancient grot, and it should be removed from the archive. I am distressed that the maintainers decided to wait until the freeze to do that. This is entirely *backwards*. The time to decide, "hey, this library should be removed" is at the *beginning* of the rele

Re: severity of 442668 is serious

2008-09-28 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Sun, 2008-09-28 at 21:19 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > Redundant versions of BDB in the archive unnecessarily bloat the release and > Debian's install footprint, and impose a burden on the Debian DB packaging > team. There are currently five versions of BDB in lenny, whereas there are > only 7

Re: gnucash 2.2.6-2: please allow into testing

2008-09-12 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 10:40 +0200, Bastian Blank wrote: > On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 12:38:14AM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > > Yes, but this is not glibc's responsibility; it is the kernel's. and, i > > think the kernel should pass back the error it gets too. it is

Re: gnucash 2.2.6-2: please allow into testing

2008-09-12 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 10:37 +0200, Bastian Blank wrote: > On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 12:32:15AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 09:24:55AM +0200, Bastian Blank wrote: > > > And which value should they be mapped to? > >EPERM The file system containing oldpath and newp

Re: gnucash 2.2.6-2: please allow into testing

2008-09-12 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 00:48 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > FWIW, I know there have been other cases in the past where glibc has handled > ENOSYS returns for unimplemented syscalls and fallen back to older, > less-preferred interfaces to avoid returning ENOSYS to the caller for a case > where the EN

Re: gnucash 2.2.6-2: please allow into testing

2008-09-12 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 00:32 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: >EPERM The file system containing oldpath and newpath does not support > the creation of hard links. > > That seems to cover any case where the kernel might return ENOSYS... Yes, but this is not glibc's responsibilit

Re: gnucash 2.2.6-2: please allow into testing

2008-09-12 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 09:24 +0200, Bastian Blank wrote: > On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 11:44:00PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > > Given that sshfs's errno return is "wildly wrong", > > The errors are not "wrong". The lists in the documentation are not > terminal. > > The open group spec say[1]: > | T

Re: gnucash 2.2.6-2: please allow into testing

2008-09-12 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 23:44 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > Hi Thomas, > > On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 11:32:49PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > > Please allow gnucash 2.2.6-2 into testing; this has a minimally invasive > > patch to avoid a dangerous data-loss bug in

gnucash 2.2.6-2: please allow into testing

2008-08-28 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Please allow gnucash 2.2.6-2 into testing; this has a minimally invasive patch to avoid a dangerous data-loss bug in an unusual usage case. (It turns out that sshfs returns ENOSYS on a link call. This is wildly wrong; it has no business doing so, especially when EPERM is already the documented er

Re: guile-1.8 (1.8.5+1-2) recommended for lenny

2008-08-18 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Mon, 2008-08-18 at 16:13 -0600, dann frazier wrote: > fwiw, it builds fine (once the arch list is updated), and my test > builds of a couple guile-1.8 packages seem to build/run fine. As an > ia64 user, I would be happy to have ia64 back in sync with the other > archs here. I agree. It would b

libofx freeze exemption request

2008-08-04 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
I have uploaded libofx 1:0.9.0-3. This acknowledges NMUs already in lenny, and includes a bug fix for an internationalization bug of severity important: #493597; I used the patch described in the bug report. libofx is priority optional and the fix can be (and has been) made via unstable and invol

Re: gnucash freeze exemption request

2008-08-03 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Fri, 2008-08-01 at 09:56 +0200, Philipp Kern wrote: > Hallo Thomas, > > am Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 06:08:18PM -0700 hast du folgendes geschrieben: > > Gnucash 2.2.6 has been released. See previous emails from me on the > > subject. I'm now seeking approval to upload 2.2.6 and have it hinted > >

Re: gnucash freeze exemption request

2008-08-02 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Fri, 2008-08-01 at 09:56 +0200, Philipp Kern wrote: > Hallo Thomas, > > am Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 06:08:18PM -0700 hast du folgendes geschrieben: > > Gnucash 2.2.6 has been released. See previous emails from me on the > > subject. I'm now seeking approval to upload 2.2.6 and have it hinted > >

gnucash freeze exemption request

2008-07-31 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Gnucash 2.2.6 has been released. See previous emails from me on the subject. I'm now seeking approval to upload 2.2.6 and have it hinted for testing, which will (among other things) close all the RC and the relevant important bugs currently against gnucash, make HBCI work properly, and otherwise

gnucash advice request take two

2008-07-28 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
It turns out that the upload of an HBCI-supporting gnucash which I made was missing some important patches. (See recent gnucash bugs by Micha Lenk for details.) I am not entirely confident there are not other such problems. This seems to me to be a poor way to go. What I would most like to do i

gnucash advice request

2008-07-09 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
This request is about gnucash bug #303234. There are two ways available to address this bug. The bug new has a patch helpfully contributed, which would enable us finally to make this work, which is a crucial thing for German users. But I would much prefer to use what upstream gnucash will releas

qt-x11-free uploads

2008-02-21 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Would it be possible to hold off on more qt-x11-free uploads so that the libofx transition can occur? They are linked through kymymoney2. The latest upload happened just in time, it seems to prevent the previous version from transitioning, as did the one before that. And the latest (3:3.3.8b-4)

please hint libofx

2008-02-19 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
I think libofx needs a hint to get into testing. Thanks. Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: sparc buildd

2008-02-18 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Mon, 2008-02-18 at 09:25 -0500, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > Is something not working with the sparc buildd? I have a couple > packages that haven't been built in two weeks, which normally doesn't > happen. Ah, I see the problem; I missed it first time round. F

sparc buildd

2008-02-18 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Is something not working with the sparc buildd? I have a couple packages that haven't been built in two weeks, which normally doesn't happen. Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: dash bug which is affecting release goal

2008-02-10 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Sun, 2008-02-10 at 19:36 -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > Raphael Geissert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I just replied to Thomas on the bug report including some information > > that demonstrates that his arguments on dash not implementing some (at > > least the one mentioned on the report) /

Re: dash bug which is affecting release goal

2008-02-10 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Sun, 2008-02-10 at 11:26 -0800, Mike Bird wrote: > On Sun February 10 2008 10:16:44 Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > > Shells can override commands, but only if they don't play games with the > > syntax. > > Agreed. Within the Debian world, dash has redefined test rath

Re: dash bug which is affecting release goal

2008-02-10 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Sun, 2008-02-10 at 10:57 -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Dash has a serious bug which is causing grief. > > > > The problem is that it overrides the system's "test" command (in > > Debian,

Re: dash bug which is affecting release goal

2008-02-10 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Sun, 2008-02-10 at 10:57 -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Dash has a serious bug which is causing grief. > > > > The problem is that it overrides the system's "test" command (in > > Debian,

Re: dash bug which is affecting release goal

2008-02-10 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Sun, 2008-02-10 at 19:58 +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > On Sun, Feb 10, 2008 at 06:16:44PM +0000, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > > Dash has a serious bug which is causing grief. > > > > [ strip whining ] > > > Alas, dash does change the syntax of the command

dash bug which is affecting release goal

2008-02-10 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Dash has a serious bug which is causing grief. The problem is that it overrides the system's "test" command (in Debian, /usr/bin/test and /usr/bin/[) and does so in a way which is inconsistent with the Debian versions. Nothing in Posix permits this behavior, but it is tolerated by the standard *p

NMU of gnucash please?

2008-02-09 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Can an NMU for gnucash please be scheduled? The recent upload failed because of an slib installation bug which has since been fixed. Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

please binNMU packages using libofx

2008-02-07 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
I've already uploaded a new gnucash package, but for the other packages which depend on libofx, can binNMUs please be scheduled so that libofx3 can be removed from unstable? Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: gnome 1.x removal

2008-01-15 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Tue, 2008-01-15 at 17:02 +, Neil McGovern wrote: > On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 11:35:54AM -0500, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > > So please, let these maintainers choose, rather than ordering them > > about. It is *they* who are in a position to decide whether maintaining > &g

Re: gnome 1.x removal

2008-01-15 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Tue, 2008-01-15 at 10:34 +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 01:10:26AM +0000, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > > Don't start filing remove requests until other maintainers have a > > chance. Take the step of contacting those who maintain packages th

Re: gnome 1.x removal

2008-01-14 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Tue, 2008-01-15 at 00:07 +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > Then I'll do some more runs of the same principle on other gnome 1.x > related libs until we got rid of them al. > > If you know your package depends on gnome 1.x one way or the other, now > is the time to fix that, package a new upstrea

Re: Release Goal Proposal: texlive-transition

2007-07-04 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Wed, 2007-07-04 at 13:30 +0200, Florent Rougon wrote: > [Trying to reply for Frank, since he's on vacation...] > > Hi, > > Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > This particular problem only exists because you're providing tetex-bin and > > tetex-extra packages that don't have the sa

gnucash and etch freeze

2007-02-20 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
One of the unfortunate side-effects of a freeze is that it becomes very hard to get necessary changes into etch when an upstream package is a more rapidly moving target. In the four months since gnucash 2.0.2 was released, much development has happened, and upstream has released several more versi

Re: why is alpha a release candidate?

2007-01-21 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Sun, 2007-01-21 at 04:20 -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Wed, Jan 17, 2007 at 02:55:30PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > > On Wed, 2007-01-17 at 13:47 -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > > > > Of course, I have a conflict of interest here as an alpha porter, so > >

Re: why is alpha a release candidate?

2007-01-17 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Wed, 2007-01-17 at 13:47 -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > > Of course, I have a conflict of interest here as an alpha porter, so > ultimately I'll defer to Andi if he thinks it's become a problem; but in > general we're unlikely to cut a port from the release at this late stage > without some pre

Re: why is alpha a release candidate?

2007-01-17 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Wed, 2007-01-17 at 18:36 +0100, Martin Schulze wrote: > Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > > So the release criteria require buildd redundancy. And yet, half the > > release candidate archs still don't have it. It gets marked in yellow > > on http://release.debian.

please allow gnucash-2.0.2-3 into testing

2007-01-17 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
I've uploaded 2.0.2-3 to fix the open release critical bug for gnucash and do minor cleanup after the incorrect NMU of last month. Please allow it into testing once the regular five-day delay is over, and please do not force it to wait for the absent alpha autobuilder to catch up. Thomas signa

why is alpha a release candidate?

2007-01-17 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
So the release criteria require buildd redundancy. And yet, half the release candidate archs still don't have it. It gets marked in yellow on http://release.debian.org/etch_arch_qualify.html. Well, the one-and-only alpha buildd has been down for apparently ten days and does not respond to ping,

Re: Fix to #378346 has gone missing, complete with nasty version inconsistency in gail

2007-01-11 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Thu, 2007-01-11 at 13:13 +0100, Loïc Minier wrote: > I think you looked at the experimental uploads. I certainly didn't > upload with "UNRELEASED" as the target dist and it certainly would be > rejected by our archive software. I was looking at the master changelog on packages.qa.debian.org

Fix to #378346 has gone missing, complete with nasty version inconsistency in gail

2007-01-10 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
According to the bug log http://bugs.debian.org/378346, gail version 1.8.11-3 was uploaded by Loic Minier and had the following: gail (1.8.11-3) unstable; urgency=high . * Revert changes of 1.8.11-2 as release team explained that a simple re-upload is enough for non-bin-NMU-able packages,

glib/gnucash regression fixed for now

2007-01-01 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
I'm pleased to report that the upload of glib version 2.16.6-2 does seem to have solved the gnucash regression caused by 2.12.5-3. That, as far as I can tell, ends the need for this to be a release concern for Debian; we can work out more leisurely now what the final shape of this should look li

Re: Bug#402692: Status of KeyFile regressions in glib2.0

2006-12-31 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Sun, 2006-12-31 at 21:10 +0100, Loïc Minier wrote: > Finally, since glib's upstream added support for key names with MIME > types chars such as "/" and "+" for gnome-vfs2, I also added a patch to > silently support key names with spaces in the middle of the name (not > at the beginning or at

gnucash / glib regression

2006-12-30 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
So there is, at the moment, a disagreement between the gnucash and glib developers about whether the keyfile interface is even a supported interface, with Josselin now suggesting that the glib maintainers simply won't support the use of keyfiles by applications (despite it being documented). And,

Re: gnucash 2.0.2-2.1 MIGRATED to testing

2006-12-30 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Sat, 2006-12-30 at 09:32 +0100, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote: > Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On Fri, 2006-12-29 at 16:39 -0700, Debian testing watch wrote: > >> FYI: The status of the gnucash source package > >> i

Re: Bug#404888: glib destabilization and ways forward

2006-12-30 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Sat, 2006-12-30 at 17:15 +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le vendredi 29 décembre 2006 à 10:48 -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG a > écrit : > > Despite what Josselin has said, I can see no indication from a brief > > perusal of the upstream branch sources in trac that upstream gnu

[Fwd: Re: invalid glib key names in gnucash]

2006-12-30 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Here is what gnucash upstream says about this nasty little issue. I want to get out of the middle of this, by the way. Can glib upstream and gnucash upstream now talk directly together? Thomas --- Begin Message --- On Fri, 2006-12-29 at 10:42 -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > gnucash crea

Re: gnucash 2.0.2-2.1 MIGRATED to testing

2006-12-29 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Fri, 2006-12-29 at 16:39 -0700, Debian testing watch wrote: > FYI: The status of the gnucash source package > in Debian's testing distribution has changed. > > Previous version: 2.0.2-2 > Current version: 2.0.2-2.1 Is it customary to hint packages into testing without even contacting the

Re: glib destabilization and ways forward

2006-12-29 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Fri, 2006-12-29 at 12:56 -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Fri, Dec 29, 2006 at 08:11:14PM +0100, Frans Pop wrote: > > On Friday 29 December 2006 19:48, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > > > Note that option (3) depends on upstream's ability to fix the problem > > >

Re: glib destabilization and ways forward

2006-12-29 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Fri, 2006-12-29 at 17:13 -0200, Otavio Salvador wrote: > > Well, bugs are bugs and I don't think we should be too hard on this. I > think that changes that does change the library behaviour should be > avoided. The rules for a freeze are that changes which fix release critical bugs are transit

Re: glib destabilization and ways forward

2006-12-29 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Fri, 2006-12-29 at 20:11 +0100, Frans Pop wrote: > On Friday 29 December 2006 19:48, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > > Note that option (3) depends on upstream's ability to fix the problem > > quickly, *and* is likely to be error prone. If our priority is the > > *rele

Re: glib destabilization and ways forward

2006-12-29 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Fri, 2006-12-29 at 17:02 -0200, Otavio Salvador wrote: > Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > 2) Decide that glib can migrate into testing, with the particular change > > of checking key values reverted to its pre-2.12.5 behavior, since this > >

glib destabilization and ways forward

2006-12-29 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Despite what Josselin has said, I can see no indication from a brief perusal of the upstream branch sources in trac that upstream gnucash either no longer uses these key files or has changed away from the keys with embedded spaces. I have asked gnucash upstream for their thoughts on the long-term

Re: Bug#404888: glib2.0: cannot go into testing; causes gnucash regrsession

2006-12-29 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Fri, 2006-12-29 at 03:06 +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le jeudi 28 décembre 2006 à 17:29 -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG a écrit : > > On Fri, 2006-12-29 at 01:56 +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: > > > Now, if you don't provide us with the necessary data, we won

Re: Bug#404888: glib2.0: cannot go into testing; causes gnucash regrsession

2006-12-29 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Fri, 2006-12-29 at 08:44 +0100, Martin Schulze wrote: > For the sake of the upcoming release, I wonder how many files / users > are affected by this change? Is it really release-critical? If not, > would it not helpe if Thomas provides a script in the gnucash package > that adjusts the keys th

Re: python 2.3

2006-12-28 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Thu, 2006-12-28 at 18:14 -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > > What about users who are depending on Python 2.3? Do they just lose? > > Users who depend on obsolete software always lose when the bar moves. I > don't find that a compelling reason to keep python2.3 around for another > release cycle

Re: Bug#404888: glib2.0: cannot go into testing; causes gnucash regrsession

2006-12-28 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Fri, 2006-12-29 at 01:56 +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Now, if you don't provide us with the necessary data, we won't be able > to fix the regression it introduces in gnucash. Here is a sample file; I suspect the offending character is the space, if I'm reading Marc Brockschmidt's regex righ

Re: Bug#404888: glib2.0: cannot go into testing; causes gnucash regrsession

2006-12-28 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Fri, 2006-12-29 at 01:56 +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Now, if you don't provide us with the necessary data, we won't be able > to fix the regression it introduces in gnucash. There are clearly two plausible solutions to the underlying problem: 1. Change gnucash to conform to the new behavi

Re: Bug#404888: glib2.0: cannot go into testing; causes gnucash regrsession

2006-12-28 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Fri, 2006-12-29 at 01:41 +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: > > 1) The release team has asked us not to upload changes which are not > > destined for etch, and making gnucash work with the glib in unstable is > > therefore a low priority; > > The glib in unstable is destined for etch, whether you l

Re: Bug#404888: glib2.0: cannot go into testing; causes gnucash regrsession

2006-12-28 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Fri, 2006-12-29 at 00:49 +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le jeudi 28 décembre 2006 à 14:47 -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG a écrit : > > Package: glib2.0 > > Version: 2.12.5-3 > > > > This version of glib (both 2.12.5-3 and 2.12.6-1) causes an important > > reg

glib2.0: cannot go into testing; causes gnucash regrsession

2006-12-28 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Package: glib2.0 Version: 2.12.5-3 This version of glib (both 2.12.5-3 and 2.12.6-1) causes an important regression in gnucash, and therefore should not go into testing. See http://bugs.debian.org/404585. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: why are new upstream versions of glib being uploaded?

2006-12-28 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Thu, 2006-12-28 at 20:45 +0100, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote: > As this may break more applications (earlier version broke locale > parsing and gnomevfs), we should probably keep that code, reduce it to a > warning for etch and then work out (together with upstream) how to solve > this for the f

Re: why are new upstream versions of glib being uploaded?

2006-12-28 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Wed, 2006-12-27 at 13:31 +0100, Andreas Barth wrote: > You mean they changed the ABI without an soname change? That sounds > really bad, yes. They changed what counts as valid input in a certain case, perhaps accidentally, perhaps on purpose. Thomas signature.asc Description: This is a digi

Re: why are new upstream versions of glib being uploaded?

2006-12-28 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Wed, 2006-12-27 at 09:36 +, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote: > Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Why are new upstream releases being added to upstable of the glib2.0 > > package? We are in a freeze, I thought. > > Yes, but the new glib

Re: why are new upstream versions of glib being uploaded?

2006-12-26 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Tue, 2006-12-26 at 21:59 -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > You asked for the release team's input into whether to upload the new > upstream version, and Luk replied with an explanation that was consistent > with the release team's position on the matter: new upstream versions and > uploads includi

Re: why are new upstream versions of glib being uploaded?

2006-12-26 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Tue, 2006-12-26 at 21:02 -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Tue, Dec 26, 2006 at 05:21:31PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > > Why are new upstream releases being added to upstable of the glib2.0 > > package? We are in a freeze, I thought. And one seems perhaps to be > &

Re: why are new upstream versions of glib being uploaded?

2006-12-26 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Wed, 2006-12-27 at 14:22 +1100, Vincent Ho wrote: > On Tue, Dec 26, 2006 at 08:09:52PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > > > It has been confirmed that it is genuinely a disruptive change. Bug > > 404585, severity important, occurs only with the new libglib. > > Um

Re: why are new upstream versions of glib being uploaded?

2006-12-26 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Tue, 2006-12-26 at 20:16 -0500, Edward Shornock (debian ml) wrote: > It seems that the new upstream changes in glib would qualify as a potentially > "disruptive change". It has been confirmed that it is genuinely a disruptive change. Bug 404585, severity important, occurs only with the new lib

Re: why are new upstream versions of glib being uploaded?

2006-12-26 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Wed, 2006-12-27 at 01:46 +0100, Alexander Wirt wrote: > Roberto C. Sanchez schrieb am Dienstag, den 26. Dezember 2006: > > > On Wed, Dec 27, 2006 at 01:28:23AM +0100, Alexander Wirt wrote: > > > Thomas Bushnell BSG schrieb am Dienstag, den 26. Dezember 2006: > > >

why are new upstream versions of glib being uploaded?

2006-12-26 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Why are new upstream releases being added to upstable of the glib2.0 package? We are in a freeze, I thought. And one seems perhaps to be responsible for a regression in gnucash (see #404585). Thomas signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: python 2.3

2006-12-21 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Fri, 2006-12-22 at 00:38 +0100, Matthias Klose wrote: > An explicitely stated goal of the release team was to reduce the > number of supported python versions for the next stable release. We > did include three python versions for sarge (2.[123]). To reduce that > count we do have to drop 2.3 (

Re: python 2.3

2006-12-21 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Fri, 2006-12-22 at 00:38 +0100, Matthias Klose wrote: > To conclude, the support of multiple python versions is not meant at > all as an excuse for lazy debian maintainers depending on python for > not following upstream python development. Are you calling me lazy for not fixing a bug that you

Re: python 2.3

2006-12-21 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Wed, 2006-12-20 at 19:51 -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Tue, Dec 19, 2006 at 11:17:03AM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > > The python team has apparently decreed that python 2.3 will not be in > > etch. This forces every package to use the new version. Surely it is >

Re: python 2.3

2006-12-19 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Wed, 2006-12-20 at 01:25 +0100, Matthias Klose wrote: > Thomas Bushnell BSG writes: > > The python team has apparently decreed that python 2.3 will not be in > > etch. This forces every package to use the new version. Surely it is > > too late in the release cycle to be r

please hint lilypond 2.8.3-3

2006-12-19 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Please hint lilypond 2.8.3-3 into testing at the appropriate time. This fixes an important bug with a simple one-line fix to a pathname in a script which is only used by the command which didn't work (thanks to the bug). Thomas signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

python 2.3

2006-12-19 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
The python team has apparently decreed that python 2.3 will not be in etch. This forces every package to use the new version. Surely it is too late in the release cycle to be risking regressions in this way? signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: please hint lilypond 2.8.7 into testing

2006-12-14 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Thu, 2006-12-14 at 20:16 -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > > My belief is that this will not be a simple fix; the ia64 has a weird > > stack structure and Scheme's call/cc is not trivial to implement on > > weird stack machines. It took lots of work upstream to get scm to work > > on ia64, and I t

permission to upload lilypond 2.10 to unstable

2006-12-13 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
In the interests of our users (TM) I'd like to upload lilypond 2.10 to unstable. This is the current stable release of lilypond. Advantages: Depending on how long the release takes, it may be appropriate to transition this to testing at some point. But this is a quite minor thing. Depending

Re: How to handle filename conflict "aleph" (Packages aleph, tetex-bin, texlive-bin)?

2006-12-12 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Tue, 2006-12-12 at 21:20 +0100, Frank Küster wrote: > We've got a problem here, since all three packages are in testing, > provide /usr/bin/aleph, and conflict with each other (or rather, the > *tex* packages conflict with aleph). Eek. > > The right solution to this would be to package the "n

please transition jacal

2006-12-12 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Can you please add a hint to transition jacal into etch? It was removed because an RC bug didn't get fixed promptly by me, but I never saw the bug report for some reason. As soon as it was removed, I uploaded a fix the same day. It has now passed the two day mark in which it would have been tran

Re: Request for an "etch-ignore carte blanche" for alternative texlive dependencies

2006-12-12 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Tue, 2006-12-12 at 08:38 +0100, Frank Küster wrote: > I would like to start a mass bug filing (not yet discussed on -devel, > severity non-RC) on packages that depend on teTeX without an alternative > TeXlive dependency. This is mainly targetted at lenny, but I would also > like to encourage pe

Please allow lilypond 2.8.7-2 into etch

2006-12-11 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
The ia64 build of lilypond has been removed from unstable (thanks Jeroen!) and the amd64 build has completed (it was waiting for the guile-1.8 build on that arch to get uploaded). So that means that lilypond 2.8.7-2 should now be able to transition. It has well passed the required time, and it wo

Re: please hint lilypond 2.8.7 into testing

2006-12-11 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Mon, 2006-12-11 at 02:14 -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > For the record, release-criticality of build failures applies only to build > failures on release architectures where the package *previously* built > successfully, and I had never claimed otherwise in the case of guile-1.8. > That seems to

jacal

2006-12-09 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
I have just uploaded the fix for #401030. For some reason this bug didn't hit my radar screen until the consequent removal from testing. (Incidentally, the bug is really serious and not grave, because jacal always worked fine with scm, but that doesn't matter much.) I would appreciate it if this

Re: confusion

2006-12-03 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Sun, 2006-12-03 at 19:51 -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > I still recommend asking for the out-of-date ia64 binary to be removed from > unstable pending resolution of the guile-1.8 bug, as I had said before. If > you elect to reintroduce lilypond 2.6 for ia64 as a separate source package, > that'

Re: confusion

2006-12-03 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Sun, 2006-12-03 at 17:32 -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > Nor is removing binaries from testing the issue -- the issue is that the old > binaries would need to be removed from *unstable* in order to allow the new > version of lilypond to propogate *from* unstable into testing. Maybe this is the b

Re: confusion

2006-12-02 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Sat, 2006-12-02 at 22:45 -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > It would be better to have a halfway modern lilypond on 32-bit archs and > > nothing at all on 64-bit archs, than to have a medieval lilypond of > > the

Re: confusion

2006-12-02 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Sat, 2006-12-02 at 16:01 +0100, Julien Cristau wrote: > On Fri, Dec 1, 2006 at 10:58:27 -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > > > Why is it OK for guile-1.8 to support 32-bit archs and not 64-bit archs, > > but lilypond is required to support all of them? It would be be

Re: confusion

2006-12-02 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Sat, 2006-12-02 at 16:01 +0100, Julien Cristau wrote: > On Fri, Dec 1, 2006 at 10:58:27 -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > > > Why is it OK for guile-1.8 to support 32-bit archs and not 64-bit archs, > > but lilypond is required to support all of them? It would be be

confusion

2006-12-01 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
I'm confused, because in part I don't seem to get responses when I ask questions. I think this is because the people who could respond think they have already answered, even though they really haven't. So guile-1.8 does not have to build from source on 64 bit archs, because one only has to do bes

please hint lilypond 2.8.7 into testing

2006-11-26 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
I would like to officially ask for an exception to the usual testing rules for lilypond, to allow 2.8.7 into testing, on those architectures where guile-1.8 works. The architectures currently losing for guile-1.8 are alpha, amd64, and ia64. I believe that alpha and ia64 are release candidates, as

Re: lilypond plans

2006-11-25 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Sat, 2006-11-25 at 07:17 -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > Because lilypond 2.8.7 build-depends on guile-1.8, and lilypond *was* > previously built on these architectures where guile-1.8 is unavailable. > > That still doesn't make 396119 release-critical. It does make it a bug that > has to be re

Re: Asking for the position of the RMs about the powerpc d-i situation.

2006-11-22 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Wed, 2006-11-22 at 18:22 +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > But, we are nearing the release, and the actions of Frans are clearly > endangering the quality of the d-i powerpc port, and there is a decision to > take about this issue, and i guess the decision is yours to make. This isn't clear to me at

Re: lilypond plans

2006-11-19 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Sun, 2006-11-19 at 05:38 -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Thu, Nov 16, 2006 at 07:05:01PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > > Currently lilypond 2.8.7 is in unstable. It is blocked waiting for its > > own timelimit and for guile-1.8 to finish building on other archs and >

Re: lilypond plans

2006-11-17 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Fri, 2006-11-17 at 21:35 +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Thu, Nov 16, 2006 at 07:05:01PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > > Currently lilypond 2.8.7 is in unstable. It is blocked waiting for its > > own timelimit and for guile-1.8 to finish building on other archs

lilypond plans

2006-11-16 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Currently lilypond 2.8.7 is in unstable. It is blocked waiting for its own timelimit and for guile-1.8 to finish building on other archs and migrate itself. There is one more release in the 2.8 cycle, 2.8.8, which I have not packaged. Also, there is now 2.10.0, which I have packaged, but not upl

Re: testing d-i Release Candidate 1 and more release adjustments

2006-11-16 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Thu, 2006-11-16 at 16:31 -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > > dash should work; posh is not required to work because nobody uses it as a > production /bin/sh. > > Those are the only three shells I know about that are even an issue, so I > can't specify beyond that -- and I'm not going to offer any

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