Re: [Fwd: Re: [RFC] Software Process Improvement in Free Software, Closing the Quality Cycle, Inventing Non-Developer-Demotivating QA/QM/SPI]

2004-11-15 Thread Thomas Schorpp
Michael Stone wrote: On Mon, Nov 15, 2004 at 09:06:22PM +0100, Thomas Schorpp wrote: yes, i've mailed to this list to find out whats missing, beating me up for it wont surely help ;) You're not being beaten up. If you were looking for a different reaction you should try another f

Re: [Fwd: Re: [RFC] Software Process Improvement in Free Software, Closing the Quality Cycle, Inventing Non-Developer-Demotivating QA/QM/SPI]

2004-11-15 Thread Thomas Schorpp
Hi Martin, Martin Schulze wrote: Thomas Schorpp wrote: Free software works by people simply doing things and contributing them to the community. If other people are interested, it will be picked up. Sorry, requirements for QM/SPI- projects is to assure that before start or error or

Re: [RFC] Software Process Improvement in Free Software, Closing the Quality Cycle, Inventing Non-Developer-Demotivating QA/QM/SPI

2004-11-08 Thread Thomas Schorpp
Hello Martin, Martin Schulze wrote: Moin! Thomas Schorpp wrote: ive been thinking for months now about inventing and adopting the SPI-standards cmm(x), spice, iso12207, and iso 9001, etc, in free sw's lifecycles and would like to ask you about comments and discussion. I would first

Re: [RFC] Software Process Improvement in Free Software, Closing the Quality Cycle, Inventing Non-Developer-Demotivating QA/QM/SPI

2004-11-08 Thread Thomas Schorpp
Martin Michlmayr wrote: I also question You as "consortium" organisation to join the german government "IT Offensive 2006", e.g., since theres lack of both: Free Software Organisations participation and Software Quality Management. QM-Research and Development is cost intensive, maybe we could get

Re: [Fwd: Re: [RFC] Software Process Improvement in Free Software, Closing the Quality Cycle, Inventing Non-Developer-Demotivating QA/QM/SPI]

2004-11-08 Thread Thomas Schorpp
Martin Michlmayr wrote: * Thomas Schorpp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-11-05 19:05]: What I could do for (with) You is to start with QA Process Assessments to determine capability leaks. Such data and scores could be used then to optimize the debian-qa processes in steps of years. Free so

Re: [RFC] Software Process Improvement in Free Software, Closing the Quality Cycle, Inventing Non-Developer-Demotivating QA/QM/SPI

2004-11-08 Thread Thomas Schorpp
Hello Martin, Martin Michlmayr wrote: * Thomas Schorpp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-11-02 11:35]: | This sounds quite interesting, but I wonder if there is enough knowledge | about these things in the Debian community to even have a meaningful | discussion? At least many experien

Re: [RFC] Software Process Improvement in Free Software, Closing the Quality Cycle, Inventing Non-Developer-Demotivating QA/QM/SPI

2004-11-05 Thread Thomas Schorpp
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Jeroen, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote: | On Mon, Nov 01, 2004 at 07:12:10AM +0100, Thomas Schorpp wrote: | |>as i see you try to maintain quality in debian efficently. |> |>ive been thinking for months now about inventing and adopting

[Fwd: Re: [RFC] Software Process Improvement in Free Software, Closing the Quality Cycle, Inventing Non-Developer-Demotivating QA/QM/SPI]

2004-11-05 Thread Thomas Schorpp
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - Original Message Subject: Re: [RFC] Software Process Improvement in Free Software, Closing the Quality Cycle, Inventing Non-Developer-Demotivating QA/QM/SPI Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2004 19:01:57 +0100 From: Thomas Schorpp <[EM

Re: [RFC] Software Process Improvement in Free Software, Closing the Quality Cycle, Inventing Non-Developer-Demotivating QA/QM/SPI

2004-11-02 Thread Thomas Schorpp
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dear Fabian, Fabian Fagerholm wrote: | On Mon, 2004-11-01 at 07:12 +0100, Thomas Schorpp wrote: | |>as i see you try to maintain quality in debian efficently. |> |>ive been thinking for months now about inventing and adopting |>the SPI-s

Re: [RFC] Software Process Improvement in Free Software, Closing the Quality Cycle, Inventing Non-Developer-Demotivating QA/QM/SPI

2004-11-01 Thread Thomas Schorpp
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thomas Schorpp wrote: | hi all, | | as i see you try to maintain quality in debian efficently. | | ive been thinking for months now about inventing and adopting | the SPI-standards cmm(x), spice, iso12207, and iso 9001, | etc, in free sw's lifec

[RFC] Software Process Improvement in Free Software, Closing the Quality Cycle, Inventing Non-Developer-Demotivating QA/QM/SPI

2004-11-01 Thread Thomas Schorpp
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 hi all, as i see you try to maintain quality in debian efficently. ive been thinking for months now about inventing and adopting the SPI-standards cmm(x), spice, iso12207, and iso 9001, etc, in free sw's lifecycles and would like to ask you about co