-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello Jeroen,
Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote: | On Mon, Nov 01, 2004 at 07:12:10AM +0100, Thomas Schorpp wrote: | |>as i see you try to maintain quality in debian efficently. |> |>ive been thinking for months now about inventing and adopting |>the SPI-standards cmm(x), spice, iso12207, and iso 9001, |>etc, in free sw's lifecycles |>and would like to ask you about comments and discussion. | | | I certainly appreciate your efforts, but what I've read until now has a | little bit too high level of buzzwords for me to be able to map your | idea's on Debian. Certainly a lot of improvements are possible in | Debian, but I don't think that can or will happen in one big go, Why do all of You think, that could be done in one-shot. It takes years in industry since mid 90's. | but | rather gradually. I myself have some idea's about that, but didn't yet | invest the time to share them and try to implement them. | | Everything within Debian is ultimately a human task, and my focus atm is | to detect if and where there are tasks that have insufficient or | inadequate manpower assigned. This very general sentence catches issues | like inactive maintainers, busy maintainers, wrong people on the wrong | tasks, or tasks that don't have any people assigned to it. I'm currently | in process of a big sweep over all package maintainers, when I'm done, | at least all inactive maintainers should be detected and a solution | found. I've currently mailed 121 different maintainers already, and | still some 60 to go. When I'm done, I'll summarize the results on this | list (or a list with a broader audience). Huh! What a mega-assessment, I'm very impressed... | | I'm also paying attention to tasks that are not package maintainance | tasks, but they are more complex to handle as those tasks are of much | more diversity, and also there is much less information available to | assess how it is going, unlike package maintainance, where there is a | plethora of tools and metrics available. Most tasks don't have a BTS | entry, for example. | | If you want to contribute to improving Debian's QA, I think it's | essential to learn about how things work in Debian now, Yes, I'll get it on, thank You. | so that you can | do smaller and more targetted propositions on improvements. Critical. could lead me (us) to over-specialisation to subprocesses. I have to start assessments on the process' highest abstraction or I could get lost. | When I've a | bit of time, I'll read through all your texts more thoroughly, to see | whether some idea's can be applied to Debian, I unfortunately didn't | find the time for that yet. | | --Jeroen | Thank You, but I've provided not much so far, as You could see ;) Y Tom -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.3.90 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Debian - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQCVAwUBQYvFQmqsze5HSzyoAQLaigQAtr9T7UBSU/XP3qW/x3zhfSwv22bs8jax ZeXoNmHaE0HUC+nUDfhA6hiVr7LHp1uTT6/zJ9mL9tM8SJVRYcEbkvfyUbl47UrJ hnzUJ7mXbPxe1Yb4cwR0DkAAgOthWi6w+nuvFpPjlfRHbWiaGvxxPNxsG648wXJR 4gYB19Ai3t4= =agL7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----