Re: Too much disruptive NMUs

2010-05-23 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Sun, May 23, 2010 at 11:34:25PM +0200, Ana Guerrero a écrit : > > I suggested in my first email also "open a bug asking whether the package > should be orphaned" to avoid stalling possible qa-orphaning uploads. I really > think this is the way to go there. Dear Ana and everybody, I tried such

Re: Too much disruptive NMUs

2010-05-23 Thread Ana Guerrero
Hi! On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 10:01:22AM +0200, Jan Hauke Rahm wrote: > On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 08:40:44AM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > On 22/05/10 at 15:07 +0200, Ana Guerrero wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > It is good to care for packages from people who are currently too busy and > > > making

Re: Too much disruptive NMUs

2010-05-23 Thread Ana Guerrero
Hi Jari (also Tony and Nobuhiro): On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 04:21:30PM +0300, Jari Aalto wrote: > I am not going to answer you detailed to this email because you are trying to explain you did nothing wrong and I agree you did nothing wrong trying to fix bug and improve the quality in the archive

Re: Too much disruptive NMUs

2010-05-23 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 23/05/10 at 12:32 +0200, Ricardo Mones wrote: > On Sun, 23 May 2010 08:40:44 +0200 > Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > > > This one is not even fixing a serious bug: > > > > So? NMUs are not only for serious bugs. > > Then, as Ana said, the developers reference should be changed because > that

Bug#582725: packages.qa.debian.org do not link to l10n status for some packages

2010-05-23 Thread Nicolas François
Hello, On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 12:47:59PM +0200, z...@debian.org wrote: > On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 11:14:40AM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > > What does that mean? There are several languages provided by for > > example debian-installer that have not translated sysvinit, this there > > are tr

Re: Too much disruptive NMUs

2010-05-23 Thread Jari Aalto
Alexander Wirt writes: >> Jari Aalto schrieb am Sunday, den 23. May 2010: >> >> [When package was not maintained] >> >> In addition to fixing the RC bugs, minor updates were usually done at >> the same time. This was done for the reasons that in case the packages >> were later orphaned or the main

Re: Too much disruptive NMUs

2010-05-23 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 03:25:11PM +0200, Alexander Wirt wrote: > > The DEP1 does't specifially encourage fixing anything else than the BUG > > at hand, and that's a very good rule for actively maintained packages. > That dep thingys are no policy. imho these uploads violate the nmu policy. Well,

Re: Too much disruptive NMUs

2010-05-23 Thread Alexander Wirt
Jari Aalto schrieb am Sunday, den 23. May 2010: Hi, *snip* > In addition to fixing the RC bugs, minor updates were usually done at > the same time. This was done for the reasons that in case the packages > were later orphaned or the maintainer were MIA, it would be more > desireable to have a we

Re: Too much disruptive NMUs

2010-05-23 Thread Jari Aalto
Ana Guerrero writes: > > It is good to care for packages from people who are currently too busy and > making NMUs to fix critical/very important bugs. However, lately I have been > seeing a lot of NMUs that are being very disruptive Hi Ana, The packages I took under close look have been carefull

Re: Too much disruptive NMUs

2010-05-23 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 01:13:44PM +0200, Ricardo Mones wrote: > Exactly, but not for rewriting rules for dh (for example). For that one > there's already a process: orphan + QA (or adopt), but not NMU. Absolutely agreed. > If the problem here is that orphaning takes too long then it should

Re: Too much disruptive NMUs

2010-05-23 Thread Ricardo Mones
On Sun, 23 May 2010 12:43:57 +0200 Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 12:32:47PM +0200, Ricardo Mones wrote: > > > So? NMUs are not only for serious bugs. > > > > Then, as Ana said, the developers reference should be changed because > > that's just the opposite of the first

Re: Too much disruptive NMUs

2010-05-23 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 12:49:10PM +0200, Alexander Wirt wrote: > > For instance, NMU are allowed for important bugs (see the suggested > > upload delays in devref §5.11.1) and fixing those does not qualify as > > making cosmetic changes; well, at least it does not according to my own > > interpret

Re: Too much disruptive NMUs

2010-05-23 Thread Alexander Wirt
Stefano Zacchiroli schrieb am Sunday, den 23. May 2010: > On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 12:32:47PM +0200, Ricardo Mones wrote: > > > So? NMUs are not only for serious bugs. > > > > Then, as Ana said, the developers reference should be changed because > > that's just the opposite of the first point

Bug#582725: packages.qa.debian.org do not link to l10n status for some packages

2010-05-23 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 11:14:40AM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > What does that mean? There are several languages provided by for > example debian-installer that have not translated sysvinit, this there > are translations missing as far as I see it. Even for > popularity-contest, the 'se' t

Re: Too much disruptive NMUs

2010-05-23 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 12:32:47PM +0200, Ricardo Mones wrote: > > So? NMUs are not only for serious bugs. > > Then, as Ana said, the developers reference should be changed because > that's just the opposite of the first point in 5.11.1 "When and how to do > an NMU": «Does your NMU really fi

Re: Too much disruptive NMUs

2010-05-23 Thread Ricardo Mones
On Sun, 23 May 2010 08:40:44 +0200 Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > This one is not even fixing a serious bug: > > So? NMUs are not only for serious bugs. Then, as Ana said, the developers reference should be changed because that's just the opposite of the first point in 5.11.1 "When and how to

Bug#582725: packages.qa.debian.org do not link to l10n status for some packages

2010-05-23 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Stefano Zacchiroli] > Because there is "nothing to translate" in the former, but there is > some in the latter. What does that mean? There are several languages provided by for example debian-installer that have not translated sysvinit, this there are translations missing as far as I see it. Ev

Bug#582725: marked as done (packages.qa.debian.org do not link to l10n status for some packages)

2010-05-23 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Your message dated Sun, 23 May 2010 10:28:34 +0200 with message-id <20100523082834.ga9...@upsilon.cc> and subject line Re: Bug#582725: packages.qa.debian.org do not link to l10n status for some packages has caused the Debian Bug report #582725, regarding packages.qa.debian.org do not link to l10n

Bug#582725: packages.qa.debian.org do not link to l10n status for some packages

2010-05-23 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
Package: qa.debian.org Why is the popularity-contest status page missing link to its translation status, while debian-edu-config got it? http://packages.qa.debian.org/d/debian-edu-config.html > links to http://i18n.debian.net/l10n-pkg-status/d/debian-edu-config.html >, while http://packages.qa.d