ion isn't as clear as it could be about
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I see some trailing whitespace in debian/changelog.
Mixed tabs and spaces in debian/postinst (naughty jwilk)
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Yes, it does mean the sponsoree has to state which suite is desired. But
it saves on a lot of untagging and retagging in each round of review,
and makes it a little easier to know the state of things when reading
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have to provide my own commit message with svn commit.
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you put in /usr/share/didjvu.
didjvu is missing a dependency on python-gamera.
> Files: debian/*
> -Copyright: 2009, 2010 Jakub Wilk
> +Copyright: 2010 Daniel Stender
I don't think you should forget Jakub, just add yourself.
Otherwise no issues I
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The --with should come after $@:
dh $@ --with python2
The DEP5 copyright file doesn't include a revision in the Format.
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a bit and see if this happens.
Otherwise it will probably happen before this gets through NEW.
BTW: You have a trailing space, in debian/copyright, and
"Upstream-contact" isn't the canonical case.
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sted before), this won't be an issue, as
it won't need another upload for 2.7 support.
You really should consider doing it, this package doesn't need to be in
the public python namespace.
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virtualenvs for development, and being able to execute things like
unit2, twistd, trial, or nose inside the virtualenv.
But I do understand why this is wanted.
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> it differently).
And then there's PEP-384, which may negate this entirely in Python3 for
some packages...
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> check_environ()
> File "/usr/lib/python2.5/distutils/util.py", line 205, in check_environ
> os.environ['HOME'] = pwd.getpwuid(os.getuid())[5]
> KeyError: 'getpwuid(): uid not found: 2952'
The buildd admins ar
ail for the first python version.
* The whole loop should be inside a check for DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS's
nocheck option.
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's been rebuilt
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> as Gwibber, but I think it is a packaging mistake.
We switched to dist-packages in Python 2.6. 2.5 still uses
site-packages.
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You could even persuade the upstream to include a cached version.
> Should I ship the pickled sphinx environment as a debian patch? This
> seems rather fragile..
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Otherwise, put the packages in the DPMT / PAPT lists in the
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http://wiki.debian.org/Teams/PythonAppsPackagingTeam/TODO
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Nicer view of [0]:
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e for very few packages, primarily virtualenv.
> Because if you have that, you can install what you need into a virtual
> env.
virtualenv uses python-support, so to get it to work under 2.7, you'd
have to change python-support, which means everything else using
python-support would have
lper and some dh_ tools your expectations are
different, and magical code inspection sounds horrible and unworkable.
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ugly and should be avoided). However, we cannot deal with
differences like that in scripts in /usr/bin. There's only one of those,
shared between all the python versions, so if you put things in it that
depend on a particular python version, things get ugly.
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py2dsc can safely do, yet.
Basically, you'd need to override all the dh_auto_* rules to loop over
all supported python2 and python3 versions.
If you don't need the python3 version, yet, I'd ignore this until the
tools improve.
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> Would dh --with python2,python3 not work? I've seen that in some packages
> IIRC.
No. That'll run dh_python2 & dh_python3, but do nothing to build the
module for python3.
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would be using upstream's HEAD anyway.
Of course, it would have to be packaged as a separate Python stack,
again. Although it would be interesting to allow modules to be built for
alternate Python implementations, but that's not a trivial project...
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7;s bytecode format? Do we expect it
to change for 2.x-compatible PyPy?
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ndergoing language changes,
like cpython - for 2.x)
Or we just live with a fair amount of PyPy module brokenness while we
are bootstrapping the modules.
XB-PyPy-Versions?
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still rare-ish) for modules
with extensions to have variation in pure-python code.
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n inside the virtualenv.
It then isn't in /usr and so can't find its modules.
I'm thinking a better solution here is to *always* look in /usr unless
an environment variable (that we'll have set at build time, for the
tests) is present.
I'm building some binaries now
alenv. Grumble, more thought needed.
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I've kicked off clean amd64 and i386 builds, and will upload the
results, when they are complete.
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> Does it make any sense to run "setup.py install" for all python3
> versions? Actually the every next python3 version will overwrite what
> the previous one writes.
That's assuming it's all pure-python.
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> Charlie Smotherman
>nose (U)
I sponsored that, and I've uploaded a rebuild.
> Stefano Rivera
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Coming soon, together with a fix for LP: #924240, as soon as upstream
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That was:
http://wiki.debian.org/SummerOfCode2011/PythonMultibuild
Unfortunately, it stalled. But Piotr is intending to finish it, last I
heard.
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;ll also improve a bunch of other situations where dh doesn't handle
debian-python's needs (e.g. autotools packages).
In the meantime, doing it by hand with overrides really isn't that hard
or fragile.
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o_install:
dh_auto_install -- --install-lib /usr/share/openastromod \
--install-scripts /usr/share/openastromod
Then symlink /usr/share/openastromod/openastromod to
/usr/bin/openastromod. python will dereference the symlink when setting
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>
> Will there be any future changes to pywbem ?
This seems like a question for the pywbem upstream maintainers. You can
find their contact details on the homepage:
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instead.
It'd be nice if we can get the upstream to make distribute the default.
I see https://github.com/pypa/virtualenv/issues/217 but it's fairly
dead...
So, I am affected by this, but don't mind too much if you do it.
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Not going to a problem with 3.x
> - dh_python2 (which, for some reason, everyone wants to use) doesn't
> generate §3.1.1-compliant dependency for such setup.
Yeah, we should fix that.
I don't think the problems with C are big enough to warrant changing the
policy. I think the
es on all python3.Xs
Cons:
- You are creating and deleting things in /usr/bin in maintainer
scripts - this made some people cringe.
2 seemed better than 1, and was dead easy.
Given the fairly low number of packages using python3-nose, fixing them
wasn't hard.
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> * Stefano Rivera , 2013-02-22, 23:31:
> >* you can ship extensions for more than one 3.x version in the
> >same private directory, thanks to tags
>
> Does dh_python3 support such setup? (I would be very surprised if it
> did.)
You
tutils, though. So, maybe that's only a very minor
issue.
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so, and ask if he minds you
co-maintaining.
[0]:
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lose the ability to express pypy support in dependencies.
> in which case, can pypy2 become an alias for pypy to at least match
> python2, python3 ?
Those aliases certainly sound like something we want.
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fiona_debian/view/head:/rules
That's crazily complicated and looks like it's been cargo-culted from
multiple other packages? I recommend pybuild for sanity.
https://wiki.debian.org/Python/LibraryStyleGuide
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h :P )
I always used to use set -x shell loops for precisely this reason.
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Won't python 3 users be using python3 -m venv?
The only real advantage of virtualenv over venv is bundled pip, but
stdlib python has that too, now...
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* barry to help with scripting python3 addition for DPMT packages.
* piotr to sponsor uploads for dh_pysupport->dh_python2 transition in
DPMT.
And that's about all. The git migration discussion will come in a
separate e-mail.
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reeze, do
that. Say one with dpm, and one with pq, and report back.
== End of minutes ==
I've done some personal investigation since the BOF, and am preparing
some really simple migration scripts, so we can get a feel for what it
will look like. My scripts so far (very very simple)
git://git.
svn2git for n
revisions, copying git repos, then running another m revisions, etc.
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’t know if that’s true or not but I certainly think that uscan _should_
> ignore anything that comes after a # (similarly to how it ignores anything
> that
> comes after a ?).
Agreed.
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> What is a /usr/bin/python launcher?
I think that was what Donald was asking for. My gut feeling here is that
that's a crazy idea.
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interpreter and a standard,
cross-interpreter dist-packages path: /usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/
This isn't a particularly different situation to pypy2, except that
there's less legacy cruft (atm)
So, I'll attempt to build a pypy3 package for experimental (or
something) that uses a
n git separately, is
conceptually cleaner (and friendlier to the small laptop SSD).
But I've given this up as an un-winnable battle.
The tools for this workflow aren't as good as full source, and full
source is actually kind of nice to work on.
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or not the change is a
massive win for us.
There's a long discussion in
https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2014-September/136374.html
That didn't have much in the way of conclusion.
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that'd be hacky, in pypy3, that'd be by design - this is what PEP3147
set out to solve.
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Arch did that.
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as to either depend on
both stacks, or the app has to know to depend on pypy3-foo, as well as
pypy3-bar.
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they've already shown that they don't care about the package's
history...
And then there's PAPT...
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viewed an earlier iteration of the
migration. The current one has the experimental upload.
Those example packages I mentioned were all from the earlier review, I
guess we should double check them :)
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single point in time, not retroactively.
> I know we haven't yet decided on a patch regime, but we should... soon! :)
Yes, that's the big decision in front of us, now.
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> I cloned the enum34.git repo, and then did an apt-get source to grab the
> orig.tar.gz. Then:
There are pristine-tar branches, so you should be able to
git-buildpackage -S and get orig tars from them.
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, wrar, NMUed
> pytracer: #786195, wrar, NMUed
> pyzor: #786045, piotr, uploaded
> sciscipy: 786081, ginggs, done
> simpleparse: #786007, larissa, false positive
> spkproxy: doko, NMUed
> tor-arm: doko, NMUed
> trac-graphviz: #786022, arl sponsored by piotr
> treeline: #786217, wrar, NMUed
> xtalk: #786058 elbrus NMUed
> viewmol: #786214, ginggs, done
> vim-latexsuite: #786115, pitti, NMUed
> w3af: elbrus NMUed
> woof: #786030, bdrung, NMUed, sponsored by ginggs
> xmldiff: #786023, bdrung
> yagtd: #786302 paultag, NMUed
> zhpy: doko, NMUed
>
>
> < NMU ALL THE THINGS >
>
> \ ^__^
> \ (oo)\___
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that several months ago.
https://lists.debian.org/debian-python/2015/04/msg00170.html
I'll do another run now.
I'll also work on an mr config.
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ot; package: pywavelets
Cannot "git-dpm init" package: quixote1
Cannot "git-dpm init" package: scandir
Cannot "git-dpm init" package: scipy
Cannot "git-dpm init" package: sparqlwrapper
Cannot "git-dpm init" package: sphinxcontrib-aafig
Cannot "git-dpm init" package: svg.path
Cannot "git-dpm init" package: tgmochikit
Cannot "git-dpm init" package: urlgrabber
I think these are mostly because the package has never been uploaded to
Debian, or has a new release staged, or has patch problems.
Then:
liblarch has
Orphaned tag commit: b'935216b70ff944f4fdef508a3ad9a53ede9aff93'
b'refs/tags/3.0-1'
namebench has
Orphaned tag commit: b'06ab8961db663cfd9002288ba098cd8aa523f81b'
b'refs/tags/1.1+dfsg-1'
These, I don't care about.
We can't merge the svn head into master on:
alembic
pycryptopp
pyme
python-concurrent.futures
python-django
python-eventlet
python-pip
python-reportlab
python-socksipy
Presumably a new upstream release, staged.
That's it. Please poke around.
Migration scripts:
http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/users/stefanor/dpmt-migration.git/ patches
welcome!
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we
can strip it down to packages still in the archive (and move everything
else off to an attic directory, or something).
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ic migration at a calmer
> moment for python modules.
Further automation is a *lot* more work. I don't think it's worth it.
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ldn't be an issue :)
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own?
Many of the problems arising from inactive team members are problems
that affect the wider Debian, equally.
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come under the same vcs regime, IMHO.
One step at a time. The same scripts should work, with minimal tweaks :)
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t ensures that everything is the same layout. And
that any deviation was intentional, not accidental.
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kage, and it gets forgotten.
Yeah, I'd like us to quickly sprint through them, too.
> Just one problem(?) I do see, some of the commits corresponding to patches
> have the following committer:
>
> Stefano Rivera
...
> Suspect it might be a default used because there was no author
Hi Barry (2015.10.02_16:24:28_+0200)
> 8-Oct - Assuming no objections or showstoppers, turn off write access to all
> of DPMT svn.
Done. And kicking off the migration now...
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Hi Brian (2015.10.09_01:52:20_+0200)
> Will the migration do packages like python-django?
It migrated everything that's in SVN. What happens to the result is up
to us. We can replace migrated results with existing git packages.
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Hi debian-python (2015.10.08_17:06:29_+0200)
> Done. And kicking off the migration now...
And it's done.
Things that need to be looked at:
http://whiteboard.debian.net/dpmt-git-migration.wb
Please mark them off if you've looked at them.
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Here:
https://wiki.debian.org/Python/GitPackaging#Where_do_the_team.27s_git_branches_live.3F
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Hi Barry (2015.10.10_21:02:00_+0200)
> I don't want to wiki-churn so what do you think about backing out this change
> and suggesting the ssh config instead?
I'd suggest ssh config too. +1.
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re tags that aren't linked into the rest of the history.
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django-ajax-selects.git/commit/?id=9d026b46d628f626a0be0d1bf78e826883ac7b71
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ter-core
E: Unknown package: codespeak-lib
E: Unknown package: lightblue
E: Unknown package: python-sk1libs
E: Unknown package: nbformat
E: Unknown package: pickleshare
E: Unknown package: pyuca
E: Unknown package: traitlets
E: Unknown package: django-colorful
E: Unknown package: nbconvert
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Hi Sebastian (2015.10.13_16:57:03_+0200)
> codespeak-lib is no longer in the archive.
> >breathe
> >flask-openid
> >python-libdiscid (U)
> They are no longer maintained under the DPMT umbrella.
Deleted them all, thanks.
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Hi Daniel (2015.10.13_17:47:01_+0200)
> In all packages, Vcs points to
> Vcs-Git: git://anonscm.debian.org/python-modules/packages/.git
> Vcs-Browser:
> http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/python-modules/packages/.git
The linter script wants https for Vcs-Browser.
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Hi Sandro (2015.10.13_16:48:54_+0200)
> On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 3:30 PM, Stefano Rivera wrote:
> > Many of the non-migrated git repos are a bit of a mess. I've written a
> > tool that looks for common problems.
>
> thanks! could it also emit a hint on how to address the
, I was expecting that.
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Hi Brian (2015.10.20_03:54:40_+0200)
> When the following error occurs, how can I tell what patch it was
> attempting to apply at the time?
It's an aborted git rebase, so you should be able to:
git show HEAD
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-dpm.
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