On May 26, 2013, at 12:13 AM, Jakub Wilk wrote:
>* Barry Warsaw , 2013-05-24, 16:12:
Replace the driver (Python) scripts with a shell script
>>>Eww! :(
>>Can you elaborate on what you don't like about that? I'd like to at >least
>>accurately understand your objections.
>
>I want Python scrip
On May 25, 2013, at 01:52 AM, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote:
>On 24 May 2013 20:40, Barry Warsaw wrote:
>> On May 24, 2013, at 02:55 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote:
>>
>> py3flakes - What I don't like about that is that it's harder to locate(1).
>>
>
>I like pyflakes3, but better yet I'd prefer:
>python3 -m fla
* Barry Warsaw , 2013-05-24, 16:12:
Replace the driver (Python) scripts with a shell script
Eww! :(
Can you elaborate on what you don't like about that? I'd like to at
least accurately understand your objections.
I want Python scripts to remain Python scripts, so that I can:
- run then with
On 24 May 2013 20:40, Barry Warsaw wrote:
> On May 24, 2013, at 02:55 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote:
>
> py3flakes - What I don't like about that is that it's harder to locate(1).
>
I like pyflakes3, but better yet I'd prefer:
python3 -m flakes
similar to how compileall / unittest / et al work.
Regard
On May 24, 2013, at 10:02 PM, Jakub Wilk wrote:
>My answer normally would be "ask upstream what is their preference". Although
>in this case the plan didn't work out:
>https://bugs.launchpad.net/pyflakes/+bug/1132892 Either upstream doesn't
>care; or they do, but they're annoyed with the discussio
* Barry Warsaw , 2013-05-24, 15:40:
Here's a question though, and it comes up again and again in different
contexts (e.g. nosetests). I guess we should have a /usr/bin/pyflakes
and /usr/bin/pyflakes3, yeah?
My answer normally would be "ask upstream what is their preference".
Although in this
On May 24, 2013, at 02:55 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote:
>I'm working on updating svn to 0.7.2 and adding Python 3 support. I'll ask
>for a review once I get something working locally.
r9670
>Here's a question though, and it comes up again and again in different
>contexts (e.g. nosetests). I guess we
On May 19, 2013, at 12:58 AM, Jakub Wilk wrote:
>* Barry Warsaw , 2012-09-28, 10:40:
>>we need to get tools like pyflakes ported to Python 3.
>
>pyflakes >= 0.6 supports Python 3. There's no Debian package built for Python
>3 yet, but that's something that can be kluged up:
>
>1) Install pyflakes_
* Barry Warsaw , 2012-09-28, 10:40:
we need to get tools like pyflakes ported to Python 3.
pyflakes >= 0.6 supports Python 3. There's no Debian package built for
Python 3 yet, but that's something that can be kluged up:
1) Install pyflakes_0.6.1-1~exp1 from experimental.
2) Put the attached
On 02/10/12 17:57, Nicolas Chauvat wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 02, 2012 at 09:59:32AM -0400, Barry Warsaw wrote:
>> On Oct 02, 2012, at 02:42 PM, Nicolas Chauvat wrote:
>>
>>> As far as I know, pylint already runs with Python3. Doesn't it?
>>
>> pyflakes is the one we want to port.
>
> May I ask why ?
>
On Tue, Oct 02, 2012 at 09:59:32AM -0400, Barry Warsaw wrote:
> On Oct 02, 2012, at 02:42 PM, Nicolas Chauvat wrote:
>
> >As far as I know, pylint already runs with Python3. Doesn't it?
>
> pyflakes is the one we want to port.
May I ask why ?
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On Oct 02, 2012, at 02:42 PM, Nicolas Chauvat wrote:
>As far as I know, pylint already runs with Python3. Doesn't it?
pyflakes is the one we want to port.
Cheers,
-Barry
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On 2 October 2012 09:01, Nicolas Chauvat wrote:
> PS: by the way, would anyone know of a way to use chroot or something
> similar to allow any user to have any number of virtual environments
> that use apt-get to install stuff and fall-back to the system if
> something is not installed in the virt
Hi Nicolas,
Thanks for the feedback -- valid concerns and besides first 3 points
indeed you give the answers I am usually give people: that is why we
provide NeuroDebian VM which is used by quite a few users who either
have admin access on their boxes or just pursuade IT personnel to do
just 1 cu
Hi,
On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 10:40:27AM -0400, Barry Warsaw wrote:
> On Sep 28, 2012, at 09:47 AM, Paul Tagliamonte wrote:
>
> >^^ this is a great idea. It'd be nice if we could prototype a flake8 /
> >pyflakes run against the archive, and filter for serious errors
>
> First, we need to get tools
Hi Yaroslav,
On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 11:40:58AM -0400, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote:
> To not be too ambitious and to not invest too much time I have decided to
> submit only a talk. Here follows a perspective title, abstract and some
> notes/outline which will not be a part of submission. I would r
> PEP390
That one is retired. setup.cfg is defined by documentation, not a PEP.
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On Sep 28, 2012, at 12:53 PM, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote:
>I just vaguely remember that there were problems in some projects relying on
>__file__ (some times opportunistically with os.path.realpath) to deduce the
>path to other components of the project, which might had been symlinked
>elsewhere ;-)
> >I could start with this one of cause ;) but I hope they all know about
> >it by now. On a related note though: __file__ -- are we all friends
> >again ? ;)
> Not sure what you mean about enmity with __file__, but note that as of the
> acceptance of PEP 420 (namespace packages), in Python 3.3
On Sep 28, 2012, at 09:04 AM, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote:
>> PEP396,
>
>Status: Draft
>Barry, was there any progress?
Nope. For whatever reason (maybe not enough controversy), there have been no
discussions on this in ages. I really should try to resurrect it.
>I could start with this one of ca
On Sep 28, 2012, at 09:47 AM, Paul Tagliamonte wrote:
>^^ this is a great idea. It'd be nice if we could prototype a flake8 /
>pyflakes run against the archive, and filter for serious errors
First, we need to get tools like pyflakes ported to Python 3. It's rather
crazy that pyflakes will compla
On Friday, September 28, 2012 09:53:42 AM Yaroslav Halchenko wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Sep 2012, Paul Wise wrote:
> > > ^^ this is a great idea. It'd be nice if we could prototype a flake8 /
> > > pyflakes run against the archive, and filter for serious errors
> >
> > We did do that at one point with py
On Fri, 28 Sep 2012, Paul Wise wrote:
> > ^^ this is a great idea. It'd be nice if we could prototype a flake8 /
> > pyflakes run against the archive, and filter for serious errors
> We did do that at one point with pyflakes:
> http://qa.debian.org/daca/pyflakes/sid/
> Unfortunately no-one has bee
On Fri, 28 Sep 2012, Paul Tagliamonte wrote:
> > The Python conference scene seems to love testing, so if you can make a
> > case
> > for Debian and quality assurance, and Debian has done things popular with
> > this crowd for years like automated builds and the use of very strict
> > package
On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 9:47 PM, Paul Tagliamonte wrote:
> ^^ this is a great idea. It'd be nice if we could prototype a flake8 /
> pyflakes run against the archive, and filter for serious errors
We did do that at one point with pyflakes:
http://qa.debian.org/daca/pyflakes/sid/
Unfortunately no
On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 01:01:18AM +0200, Paul Boddie wrote:
> On Friday 28 September 2012 00:23:10 Yaroslav Halchenko wrote:
> > Thank you Paul ;-)
> >
> > Good comments -- once again, arguments seems to be oriented mostly
> > toward developers... I guess I should explicitly guide the
> > abstrac
On Fri, 28 Sep 2012, Piotr Ożarowski wrote:
> no, but please make sure to bind a key that (when pressed) shows a
> screen with these PEP numbers... and hit it every time you do a short
> break to catch a breath or drink water ;)
;) I do bind keys to important slides in impressive... now I will ha
[Yaroslav Halchenko, 2012-09-28]
> On Fri, 28 Sep 2012, Piotr Ożarowski wrote:
> > about conventions... please, please, please mention
>
> with pleasure ... but do you think it is worth listing (some of) them in
> the abstract?
no, but please make sure to bind a key that (when pressed) shows a
s
Thanks Piotr!
On Fri, 28 Sep 2012, Piotr Ożarowski wrote:
> [Yaroslav Halchenko, 2012-09-28]
> > In this talk I would like to briefly present the history of Python in
> > Debian (which can be traced to nineties with Python 1.4), outline
> > benefits Debian provides for Python users/developers and
[Yaroslav Halchenko, 2012-09-28]
> In this talk I would like to briefly present the history of Python in
> Debian (which can be traced to nineties with Python 1.4), outline
> benefits Debian provides for Python users/developers and present what
> to expect in upcoming stable (wheezy) release of Deb
ok -- here is my next take trying to make at least the title and introduction
more user oriented and mention those aspects which might be be of interest for
developers... As a result it probably became even less English and now
exercises working memory even harder ;)
Propelling Python to the
On Friday 28 September 2012 00:23:10 Yaroslav Halchenko wrote:
> Thank you Paul ;-)
>
> Good comments -- once again, arguments seems to be oriented mostly
> toward developers... I guess I should explicitly guide the
> abstract more toward 'user-' and "sysadmin-" use cases: people
> in need to hav
Thank you Paul ;-)
Good comments -- once again, arguments seems to be oriented mostly
toward developers... I guess I should explicitly guide the
abstract more toward 'user-' and "sysadmin-" use cases: people
in need to have easy and uniform paths for software installation and
maintenance of the
Thank you Paul,
On Thu, 27 Sep 2012, Paul Tagliamonte wrote:
> I can see this becoming a flamefest.
oh no... I hoped to simply present our work and not cause
flamefests ;-)
> Most "hardcore" pythonistas (and the types to be at PyCon) refuse to
> allow apt to install libs globally, and use virt
On Thursday 27 September 2012 17:50:04 Paul Tagliamonte wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 08:51:37AM -0400, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote:
> > not a single comment... bad... I guess I need to work on the text
> > more if even hardcore Debian people do not feel 'moved' ;-)
>
> Well, i'll give my 2c as a p
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 08:51:37AM -0400, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote:
> not a single comment... bad... I guess I need to work on the text
> more if even hardcore Debian people do not feel 'moved' ;-)
Well, i'll give my 2c as a pythonista and a Debian-folk
>
> On Wed, 26 Sep 2012, Yaroslav Halchenk
not a single comment... bad... I guess I need to work on the text
more if even hardcore Debian people do not feel 'moved' ;-)
On Wed, 26 Sep 2012, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote:
> To not be too ambitious and to not invest too much time I have decided to
> submit only a talk. Here follows a perspectiv
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