Hi Yaroslav, On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 11:40:58AM -0400, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: > To not be too ambitious and to not invest too much time I have decided to > submit only a talk. Here follows a perspective title, abstract and some > notes/outline which will not be a part of submission. I would really > appreciate (and of cause would acknowledge in the slides) any feedback, ideas, > comments, etc.
I suggest you would also try to describe the differences between The Complete Python Distribution On Debian and the others ways there are to install Python packages. When I say "I do not need all this easy_install, pip, virtualenv, distribute/packaging, buildout, /etc/ for I have Debian!", I am usually told: - but we have to work on Windows - but we are not root on the computer we are using and can't run apt-get - but I want a newer version of X than the one included in Debian - but I am not doing deployment/production and for development I need the latest versions of these modules because this component I rely on says so - I am preparing things for production, so I need everything to be reproducible independently of the underlying system - etc. I think being prepared to answer these questions and maybe address some of these issues directly in your slides would help make clear what Debian is a good solution for. Possible answers are: - windows: if it hurts, stop doing it and install virtualbox :p - not root: try a virtual machine (or maybe a variant of chroot?) - newer: are you ready to handle all the compatibility/dependency problems on your own ? - dev: packaging python modules is easier than getting a full distribution to work right, take a look at the GSoC project that packages PyPI/*, your new-and-shiny stuff is probably there - prod: you want a chroot or a virtual machine. - etc. Hope this helps, PS: by the way, would anyone know of a way to use chroot or something similar to allow any user to have any number of virtual environments that use apt-get to install stuff and fall-back to the system if something is not installed in the virtualenv ? -- Nicolas Chauvat logilab.fr - services en informatique scientifique et gestion de connaissances -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-python-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121002080148.ga4...@volans.logilab.fr
