Thank you Paul, On Thu, 27 Sep 2012, Paul Tagliamonte wrote: > I can see this becoming a flamefest.
oh no... I hoped to simply present our work and not cause flamefests ;-) > Most "hardcore" pythonistas (and the types to be at PyCon) refuse to > allow apt to install libs globally, and use virtualenv(wrapper) to > isolate deps for a few reasons -- the big ones being: > - more "up to date" > - isolates dependency hell > which (frankly) apt-get / Debian stable can't really address. Sometimes > Python packages in sid are out of date as well. That is true... Somewhat offtopic -- that is why with neuro.debian.net we pretty much serve an unofficial backports repository for a good portion of Python modules we maintain. Besides immediate benefit for users, benefit from backporting for developers has been build-time testing across various releases of Debians and Ubuntus, picking out problems with specific versions of the core libraries... So, may be I should add an accent that availability in Debian doesn't only guarantee ease of installation (for users) but provides a good test bed for the developers to preclude problems with future deployments on Debian-based platforms... ? > People don't care about API stability or anything like that, so I think > you might have to try to frame this in a way that doesn't provoke a > virtualenv-vs-apt battle -- because, frankly, neither side will win and > it'll just become a bit murky. I think, as Paul pointed out (reply to his email will follow shortly) that it might be worth to orient the talk more toward the users who per se pretty much need to take care about the whole system -- regular mortals and sysadmins. > I'd be happy to help you prepare / do more interactive work with folks > at PyCon (I should likely be there) :) Thanks in advance... let's see first if I would be going anywhere ;) -- Yaroslav O. Halchenko Postdoctoral Fellow, Department of Psychological and Brain Sciences Dartmouth College, 419 Moore Hall, Hinman Box 6207, Hanover, NH 03755 Phone: +1 (603) 646-9834 Fax: +1 (603) 646-1419 WWW: http://www.linkedin.com/in/yarik -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-python-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120927222213.gd26...@onerussian.com
