Re: Proposed Email to the release team about XS/B-P-V

2010-06-25 Thread Scott Kitterman
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Re: Proposed Email to the release team about XS/B-P-V

2010-06-24 Thread Luca Falavigna
Il giorno Wed, 23 Jun 2010 13:15:46 -0400 Scott Kitterman ha scritto: > I have consulted with Luca Falavigna (DktrKranz) and Jakub Wilk (jwilk), who > did most of the analysis for the last two Python transitions (Adding 2.6 to > supported versions and the current transition to 2.6 as default) a

Re: Proposed Email to the release team about XS/B-P-V

2010-06-24 Thread Scott Kitterman
"Josselin Mouette" wrote: >Le mercredi 23 juin 2010 à 21:17 -0400, Scott Kitterman a écrit : >> >5. End this madness and use the version in build-dependencies instead of >> >asking maintainers to specify it twice - which they usually do wrong. >> > >> With this approach then with the current py

Re: Proposed Email to the release team about XS/B-P-V

2010-06-24 Thread Tristan Seligmann
On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 12:35 PM, Piotr Ożarowski wrote: >> * A module that works perfectly with every Python >= 2.5, but its >> documentation generation system required Python 2.6. Build-dep on python >> (>= 2.6) is needed, which doesn't mean that modules shouldn't be >> byte-compiled for 2.5. >

Re: Proposed Email to the release team about XS/B-P-V

2010-06-24 Thread Piotr Ożarowski
[Jakub Wilk, 2010-06-24] > * Piotr Ożarowski , 2010-06-24, 09:27: >> it gets a little bit messy when minimum required Python version is >> greater than the default one, but it should work, yes (IIRC last year >> someone gave me example where it wouldn't work, but I don't remember it >> now, hopeful

Re: Proposed Email to the release team about XS/B-P-V

2010-06-24 Thread Jakub Wilk
* Piotr Ożarowski , 2010-06-24, 09:27: 5. End this madness and use the version in build-dependencies instead of asking maintainers to specify it twice - which they usually do wrong. With this approach then with the current python-defaults in Sid, how would one specify works with 2.5 and 2.6, bu

Re: Proposed Email to the release team about XS/B-P-V

2010-06-24 Thread Piotr Ożarowski
[Piotr Ożarowski, 2010-06-24] > [Josselin Mouette, 2010-06-24] > example for default=3.1 minimum=3.2 maximum=3.5: > python-all | python-all (>= 3.2), python-all (<< 3.5), python-all (>= > 3.1.2-2) > or even > python-all (>= 3.1.2-2) | python-all (>= 3.2), python-all (<< 3.5) err, python3-all of

Re: Proposed Email to the release team about XS/B-P-V

2010-06-24 Thread Piotr Ożarowski
[Josselin Mouette, 2010-06-24] > Le mercredi 23 juin 2010 à 21:17 -0400, Scott Kitterman a écrit : > > >5. End this madness and use the version in build-dependencies instead of > > >asking maintainers to specify it twice - which they usually do wrong. > > > > > With this approach then with the curr

Re: Proposed Email to the release team about XS/B-P-V

2010-06-23 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mercredi 23 juin 2010 à 21:17 -0400, Scott Kitterman a écrit : > >5. End this madness and use the version in build-dependencies instead of > >asking maintainers to specify it twice - which they usually do wrong. > > > With this approach then with the current python-defaults in Sid, how would >

Re: Proposed Email to the release team about XS/B-P-V

2010-06-23 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 12:44:36AM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: > On Wednesday, June 23, 2010 11:08:47 pm Paul Wise wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 10:42 AM, Scott Kitterman > wrote: > > > The email is meant to go to the release team to address what I understand > > > to be release team speci

Re: Proposed Email to the release team about XS/B-P-V

2010-06-23 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, June 23, 2010 11:08:47 pm Paul Wise wrote: > On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 10:42 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > The email is meant to go to the release team to address what I understand > > to be release team specific requirement. I think that the broader > > question needs to be discuss

Re: Proposed Email to the release team about XS/B-P-V

2010-06-23 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 10:42 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote: > The email is meant to go to the release team to address what I understand to > be release team specific requirement.  I think that the broader question needs > to be discussed in a broader audience. I think it is relevant there as well,

Re: Proposed Email to the release team about XS/B-P-V

2010-06-23 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, June 23, 2010 10:01:03 pm Paul Wise wrote: > On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 1:15 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > In Debian Python we are currently discussing how best to specify version > > information for Python 3. There is a strong (but not unanimous) view > > among the participants in d

Re: Proposed Email to the release team about XS/B-P-V

2010-06-23 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 1:15 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote: > In Debian Python we are currently discussing how best to specify version > information for Python 3.  There is a strong (but not unanimous) view among > the participants in debian-pyt...@l.d.o and #debian-python that Python(2) and > Python

Re: Proposed Email to the release team about XS/B-P-V

2010-06-23 Thread Scott Kitterman
"Josselin Mouette" wrote: >Le mercredi 23 juin 2010 à 13:15 -0400, Scott Kitterman a écrit : >> 1. Use XS/B-P-V for Python and Python3 versions >> 2. Create a new set of fields, XS/B-Python3-Version. >> 3. Create a new field, X-Python-Version: for Python3 versions. >> 4. Create a new field,

Re: Proposed Email to the release team about XS/B-P-V

2010-06-23 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mercredi 23 juin 2010 à 13:15 -0400, Scott Kitterman a écrit : > 1. Use XS/B-P-V for Python and Python3 versions > 2. Create a new set of fields, XS/B-Python3-Version. > 3. Create a new field, X-Python-Version: for Python3 versions. > 4. Create a new field, X-Python3-Version: for Python3 ver

Re: Proposed Email to the release team about XS/B-P-V

2010-06-23 Thread Scott Kitterman
"Piotr Ożarowski" wrote: >[Scott Kitterman, 2010-06-23] >> 3. Create a new field, X-Python-Version: for Python3 versions. This avoids >> concerns about control file bloat, but may be a bit confusing in combination >> with the existing XS/B-P-V. > >+ "Please note the lack of XB-Python-Versio

Re: Proposed Email to the release team about XS/B-P-V

2010-06-23 Thread Piotr Ożarowski
[Scott Kitterman, 2010-06-23] > 3. Create a new field, X-Python-Version: for Python3 versions. This avoids > concerns about control file bloat, but may be a bit confusing in combination > with the existing XS/B-P-V. + "Please note the lack of XB-Python-Version, i.e. X-Python-Version will be us