Re: open source or free software?

2014-09-22 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Daniel Pocock pocock.pro> writes: > Literally, "open source" implies you can see the source. I personally The correct term for *that* is “shared source”, though. “Open Source” means that it’s got an OSD-conformant licence plus that you actually get the source code under that licence. “OSI cer

Re: About language specific package management tools

2015-01-26 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Anthony Towns erisian.com.au> writes: > don't think it's as feasible: > > - if cpan/pypi/etc change their formats and the conversion scripts need >updating, it'd have to be done on every system, rather than in one >place - additional build-depends and depends cannot be expressed upstre

Re: About the recent DD retirements

2015-01-26 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Tollef Fog Heen err.no> writes: > This means that if you use system packages and want to have two > applications that both want foo.jar installed, but different versions > (since they need different APIs or different bug compatibility), we > don't support that well. For C libraries, there are so

Re: Question about GNOME Trademark and GNOME project packages in Debian

2011-11-16 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Steve Langasek dixit: >DFSG #8 is not an issue. DFSG #4 allows authors to require changed versions >of their software to be distributed under a different name. If the upstream >makes special allowances for Debian to use the name for modified versions, >this doesn't fail the DFSG, because everyon

LaMont Jones, WTH are you doing?

2013-02-06 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Hi *, please compare http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-changes/2013/02/msg00141.html with, for example, http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-changes/2013/02/msg00140.html and tell me whether you’re seeing what I am seeing: • As, apparently (he’s done it for bind9 and util-linux too) normal f

Re: LaMont Jones, WTH are you doing?

2013-02-06 Thread Thorsten Glaser
LaMont Jones dixit: >mergechanges is responsible for the differences you're seeing: […] >uploaded (again from the ubuntu system, but the bits are firmly cast on sid.) OK, thanks for the explanation. >least one of those buildds has bitten me with bad binaries in the past. Hm. I think that’s no r

Re: LaMont Jones, WTH are you doing?

2013-02-06 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Sune Vuorela vuorela.dk> writes: > What's the problem here ? It’s a trust question. If something differs, people wonder why. If something broke in the past, people are more wary. The answer showed that there’s nothing to worry except for the maintainer address merge failure, though (this is why

Re: LaMont Jones, WTH are you doing?

2013-02-06 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Russ Allbery debian.org> writes: > Just for the future, could folks try to avoid subject lines like this? It > comes across as a call-out, which sets things off on a confrontational Oh, okay. Sorry. > LaMont handled it very well, and not everyone is bothered by it, but it > seems like an unnec

Mirrors of the BTS, mailing lists, etc.

2013-09-18 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Hi *, I think we had a discussion about it but can’t find it any more. But I saw on SO a link to inform at least one of the search engines about reporting “scraper pages” that occur before the “real” pages: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dGM4TXhIOFd3c1hZR2NHUDN 1NmllU0E6MQ&n

Re: Moving to stronger keys than 1024D

2013-10-06 Thread Thorsten Glaser
the living hell out of ksh93 in that respect. I'd even consider it for my daily use if I hadn't wasted half my life on my zsh setup. :-) -- Frank Terbeck in #!/bin/mksh#!/bin/mksh #- # Copyright (c) 2013 # Thorsten Glaser # # Provided that these terms and disclaimer and all copyr

Re: Moving to stronger keys than 1024D

2013-10-06 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Dixi quod… >got 328 signatures in total, 319 keys signed in total >expect this to be 329 and 319, respectively Ah actually this is because 70096AD1 is not unique, and Zack has signed both of them. (I assume Asheesh generated the newer key to have the same ID as the older – not nice… but the stati

Re: Proposed MBF - mentions of the word "Ubuntu"

2013-11-08 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Jonathan Dowland dixit: >On Fri, Nov 08, 2013 at 12:56:37PM -0500, Paul Tagliamonte wrote: >> Seems as though Joey is already taking the lead on this: >> >> http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=collab-maint/debmirror.git;a=commitdiff;h=fcd972395b0201fcde4915d282982926f0d04c56;hp=7fcdf0d225c480b386

Re: Code of Conduct: picking up

2013-11-28 Thread Thorsten Glaser
On Wed, 27 Nov 2013, Ian Jackson wrote: > Inevitably, the CoC will be voted on in a GR. The right time to > continue this dogpile is in the vote. Mh… we’ll see how that turns out. > Norbert Preining writes ("Re: Code of Conduct: picking up"): > > Why don't we try to be *honest*, something like

Re: Code of Conduct: picking up

2013-11-29 Thread Thorsten Glaser
fup2p On Thu, 28 Nov 2013, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > You mean you were using Debian resources to spread malware, and it seems You’re ridiculous. That’s not malware and cannot spread either (except like the famous “hi, I’m a signature virus, copy me to your .sig to help me spread”, are you forbidd

Re: Code of Conduct: picking up

2013-12-02 Thread Thorsten Glaser
>«Malware, short for malicious software, is software used to disrupt See. This isn’t software. It is a perfectly valid string of Unicode characters. bye, //mirabilos -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas

Re: Code of Conduct: picking up

2013-12-02 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Followup-To: poster Paul Tagliamonte dixit: >"Valid" is a subjective term :) Mh, true. Anyway, I’m not using that signature any more, and I’m reading most Debian lists through GMane anyway, *and* (yes Enrico) I’ve re-read the DMUP (though that one is shaky too, but I understand the spirit). EOT.

Re: Copyright arrangements for a web project

2013-12-16 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Ian Jackson chiark.greenend.org.uk> writes: > (The main program I'm thinking of here is a Ruby on Rails > application.) What are people's feelings about AGPLv3 ? Completely beyond licencing (I’m firm on the BSD side of things ofc): It has recently been “discovered” (i.e. the implications f

Re: Updates in stable releases

2013-12-31 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Moritz Mühlenhoff inutil.org> writes: > Kurt Roeckx roeckx.be> schrieb: > > The rules seem to suggest that we need a priority important bug So, if I have one, I can include the relevant bugfix? > > So I have the impression that if upstream has a stable branch and > > really only do bug fixes

mediawiki{,-extensions} for wheezy (was Re: Updates in stable releases)

2014-01-03 Thread Thorsten Glaser
ore or less. I want to fix a few non-security bugs first (see below for that), and once that has hit stable, will want to follow up with upstream 1.19.x LTS uploads but no further non-security changes, unless they are RC or otherwise important. On Tue, 31 Dec 2013, Cyril Brulebois wrote: >

duck.debian.net shows: lintian and alioth disagree

2014-04-07 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Hi *, I’ve just saw DUCK reporting an issue with mediawiki (and, following a quick grep, most of the packages using svn on Alioth): (Note: word-wrapped so the GMane Loom would accept this newspost.) tglase@tglase:~ $ svn ls svn://anonscm.debian.org/pkg-mediawiki/ svn: E210005: Unable to connect

Re: duck.debian.net shows: lintian and alioth disagree

2014-04-07 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Paul Wise debian.org> writes: > This got broken relatively recently and the alioth admins haven't yet > fixed it, bug report here: OK, thanks for the pointer. bye, //mirabilos -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contac

Re: Question on About Page

2014-06-10 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Raymond gmail.com> writes: > focuses on the freedom of the users, while the definition of the > open source movement uses the word "free" only in the context of > money, but never in the context of freedom for the user. The Ehm, you’re looking too narrowly. Do not restrict reading th

Bug#292330: use UTF-8 by default

2007-06-15 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Hi, wouldn't it be possible to at least make the en_US.UTF-8 locale forcibly generated, so that it can't be deselected by dpkg-reconfigure locales? If this one isn't installed, many apps break when I ssh from an OS that uses exclusively UTF-8 to a Debian box. Thanks! //mirabile -- I believe no

Bug#292330: use UTF-8 by default

2007-06-16 Thread Thorsten Glaser
martin f krafft dixit: >Why en_US? Why not en_GB? Because how many applications come with en_US data files and how many speak proper English? I know it's sad, but it happens to be like this. >> If this one isn't installed, many apps break when I ssh from an OS that >> uses exclusively UTF-8 to a

Bug#292330: use UTF-8 by default

2007-06-16 Thread Thorsten Glaser
martin f krafft dixit: >also sprach Thorsten Glaser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007.06.16.1323 +0100]: >> Funnily I cannot if I'm not root. And I've seen etch boxen where >> en_US.UTF-8 was not installed. > >Then please bug the admin. That's what I did, but th

Bug#292330: use UTF-8 by default

2007-06-16 Thread Thorsten Glaser
martin f krafft dixit: >Please stop CCing debian-project. I don't. >Does a C.UTF-8 exist? If yes, then this is a sound proposal, >I think. If not, one could probably easily create one. It would have to have all properties of C except for LC_CTYPE, which it would have to take from en_US.UTF-8.

Bug#292330: use UTF-8 by default

2007-06-16 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Roger Leigh dixit: >> Does a C.UTF-8 exist? If yes, then this is a sound proposal, >> I think. > >I believe that the "C" locale is supposed to be US_ASCII only. That applies to “C” but not to a hypothetical “C.UTF-8” locale, which would have to be set via setlocale(3) anyway, and differ from “C”

Bug#292330: use UTF-8 by default

2007-06-18 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Mike Hommey dixit: >> it's not. We could create a neutral.utf-8 locale for sure Sounds like a plan. Maybe something short and uppercase, akin to "C" and "POSIX", how about "STD.UTF-8"? >> but a >> C.utf-8 is really bad, because some programs check the locale for 'C' >> and when they foind that

Re: A Different Take on AI

2025-02-07 Thread Thorsten Glaser
On Fri, 7 Feb 2025, Sam Johnston wrote: >On Fri, 7 Feb 2025 at 08:48, Thorsten Glaser wrote: >> >> I’d like to remind you that these huge binary blobs still contain, >> in lossily compressed form, illegally obtained and unethically >> pre-prepared, copies of copyrighte

Re: A Different Take on AI

2025-02-06 Thread Thorsten Glaser
M. Zhou dixit: >I do not see how proposal A harms the ecosystem. It just prevents huge >binary blobs from entering Debian's main section of the archive. It >does not stop people from uploading the binary blobs to non-free >section. I’d like to remindyou that these huge binary blobs still contain,