M. Zhou dixit: >I do not see how proposal A harms the ecosystem. It just prevents huge >binary blobs from entering Debian's main section of the archive. It >does not stop people from uploading the binary blobs to non-free >section.
I’d like to remindyou that these huge binary blobs still contain, in lossily compressed form, illegally obtained and unethically pre-prepared, copies of copyrighted works, whose licences are not honoured by the proposed implementations. As such I cannot consider them acceptable even for Debian’s non-free. As someone publishing a lot of things under OSS licences, I, you, really we all are affected by this. Given that I mostly publish under Copyfree Ⓕ licences, attribution (and disclaimer of as much liability as permitted) is all I seek, and they give not even that. While the act of training such a model *for data analysēs* may be legal, distributing it, or output gained from it that is not a, and I quote the copyright law, “pattern, trend [or] correlation” isn’t legal. https://evolvis.org/~tg/cc.htm contains more writeup on this (and my Fediverse bookmark list has tons more material I need to add to its “Further references” section, really…) and links to a wlog entry containing even more on this and the homepage of The MirOS Licence where I put an explicit interpretation requirement following along the same line as well. >On Wed, 2025-02-05 at 07:45 -0700, Sam Hartman wrote: > >>If we are saying that to be open source software, any model you use >>needs to provide full training data up to the original training run >>with random parameters, I think that would harm our community. I cannot conceive how someone in your position in Debian, or really any fellow DD, can make such a statement with the declared intent. (Others on LWN, where I spotted this (I’m not subscribed to the list, so Cc me on replies if you want me to see them), have pointed out the fallacy behind the quality argument already.) bye, //mirabilos -- „Cool, /usr/share/doc/mksh/examples/uhr.gz ist ja ein Grund, mksh auf jedem System zu installieren.“ -- XTaran auf der OpenRheinRuhr, ganz begeistert (EN: “[…]uhr.gz is a reason to install mksh on every system.”)
