On Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 08:04:53PM -0500, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote:
> The PowerPC port is about to be without an unstable build daemon again.
Insert random support here. I think this is a completely sensible use
of project funds.
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(like
the postgresql-slink or gdb-arm packages for potato).
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bably look at bug 69229, and base the change on that.
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ait for weeks in between, especially for packages
with RC bugs and with the freeze approaching. Also, you are allowed to
fix non-RC bugs and such too.
FWIW, IMHO, etc.
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instead of /usr, and changing
the extension. Also creating, say, a boa.lsb would demonstrate most
of the packaging fundamentals. And something like tuxracer.lsb would
probably come close to demonstrating all the library requirements.
Anyone? Please?
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On Sat, Aug 04, 2001 at 04:07:51PM +0100, Edward Betts wrote:
> Anthony Towns wrote:
> > There're "help", "moreinfo", "unreproducible" and "patch" tags. There are
> > three open bugs marked help [44065, 93885, 94298], 115 marked moreinf
ages from that person, would also be
options.
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``Debian: giving you the power to
n that it'll get rewritten into
a new document, that never eventuates. Losing all the non-prescriptive
information from debian-policy would be rather horrific.
> and meet
> the most frequent complaint about the old policy + packaging manual:
> they contradict, and I have to look in
s the case, but you did actually say that), then
> there is no point in policy at all, is there?
Policy at the moment provides a fairly thorough grounding in Debian's
best practices. That's highly useful.
Normal standards, like ANSI C and XML and the FHS and the LSB
to copy parts of that into Debian policy,
> but I would rather have them as seperate documents. That means
> people will need to read both, but that might give them a better
> understanding of how Debian is build.
ObShot: Much like, say, people used to have to read both the packag
eadable, consistent and useful --
it doesn't seem like a good idea to broaden its scope. Rewriting it
into something comprehensible, making the already approved of changes,
and merging all the subpolicies (at least debconf, perl, and python)
is likely to be more than enough work for the forseeab
of time, personally.
> (As far as RC issues
> goes, this could be marked by (RC) after the MUST/SHOULD/whatever,
> with a catchall at the start of policy that the final decision on what
> is RC rests with the release manager.)
As far as RC issues go, they'll be specified in an
t; have to the packaging system(s).
If stuff's added to policy after it's been tried in various packages,
then it doesn't document enough for reimplementations of dpkg, if it's
added before, it'll have to document things before they've been tried
and demonstrated
On Mon, May 06, 2002 at 06:11:46PM +0100, Julian Gilbey wrote:
> On Fri, May 03, 2002 at 08:02:50PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
> > I'm concerned about this because when I tried passing over
> > "release-critical policy issues" to the policy group, it didn't work
y "See, this is
> not considered an RC bug!"?
Bug submitters already look at "another document". That document will
merely change from being the entirety of policy, to something a fair
bit shorter and a fair bit more on-point.
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On Mon, May 06, 2002 at 06:11:46PM +0100, Julian Gilbey wrote:
> On Fri, May 03, 2002 at 08:02:50PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
> > If the dpkg authors would like to hand off some of their design decisions
> > to -policy on a generalised basis, I'm sure they'd say so.
On Mon, May 06, 2002 at 05:19:09PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> >>"Anthony" == Anthony Towns writes:
> Anthony> The real question is whether maintainers are meant to build
> Anthony> using the features of dpkg, or the ones listed in
> *Sigh*. Let me
-project Bcc'ed only.
On Thu, May 09, 2002 at 11:17:28PM +0100, Julian Gilbey wrote:
> On Fri, May 10, 2002 at 04:02:47AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
> > On Mon, May 06, 2002 at 06:19:54PM +0100, Julian Gilbey wrote:
> > > > > Then each section could either have t
On Mon, May 13, 2002 at 01:29:59AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> >>"Anthony" == Anthony Towns writes:
> Anthony> The documentation should be found wherever the dpkg
> Anthony> maintainers want it, not wherever the -policy maintainers
> Anthony> thi
On Mon, May 13, 2002 at 01:45:33AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> >>"Anthony" == Anthony Towns writes:
> >> *Sigh*. Let me see if I can dot the i's and cross the t's. A
> >> package should be buildable using the bits mentioned in policy. Any
>
On Mon, May 13, 2002 at 10:42:02AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> >>"Anthony" == Anthony Towns writes:
> Anthony> There is _absolutely_ no call for other packaging tools, and
> Anthony> absolutely _no_ need for a standard to make this easy or
> Yeah,
own choices about which network to support?
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it "political" any more than any other Debian discussion?
The fact that people say things like:
> Oh yes, and remember how his somegeek.org pages assert that he's not using
> notices to raise funds? I offer these logs to show that this is a
> bald-faced lie.
and are still o
On Mon, Aug 19, 2002 at 10:18:00PM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 19, 2002 at 10:53:59PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
> > There's nothing particularly deep here; everyone who's used OPN/freenode
> > is fairly well aware how much/little it netspli
lly it's happened more than once. Hey, guess why we have "unstable"?)
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On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 06:21:46PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> On Sat, 31 Aug 2002, Anthony Towns wrote:
> > On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 11:23:23AM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> > > > - Destructive help - This person shouldn't ever touch
s all about.
* laws to make exploiting security bugs illegal even on your own
system, which we already have or are getting in most of the
"free" world.
TCPA: propping up yesterday's business models, today.
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n't noticed
Debian types to be particularly afraid of dissin' authority figures.
Given no evidence to assume that it is, though, maybe we shouldn't leap
to it as a conclusion just yet?
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I d
On Mon, Nov 04, 2002 at 01:37:19PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> >>"Anthony" == Anthony Towns writes:
> Anthony> Given no evidence to assume that it is, though, maybe we
> Anthony> shouldn't leap to it as a conclusion just yet?
> For the record, I
ful' in this case is not the common definition, but Ian's own personal
> spin. Ie, useful in Ian's world means anything that he already agrees with.
Uh Adam, take it easy. There's no need to get all riled up over this.
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e. If he did, I'm
certain he didn't intend to, so I don't think it's worth getting all
riled up over.
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closet
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On Wed, Nov 06, 2002 at 01:52:47AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> >>"Anthony" == Anthony Towns writes:
> When I read a draft with a bunch of co-authors names on the
> authors list, I do tend to assume that the co-authors have signed on
> to the document.
On Wed, Nov 06, 2002 at 03:00:18AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> Is the number of things one is permitted to be concerned about
> a 0 sum game now?
*shrug* I just don't think this is worth getting all hyped up about.
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d in
something, you can only do your best to make it as useful for everyone
as you can.
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``If you don't do it now, you'll be one year older when you do.''
review. Your phrase is the opposite,
implying that it's a "jointly written (draft message)", which it isn't.
Why are you proposing to remove all the vi clones from the distribution
anyway? What possible reason could you have?
> hoping I have made my point,
That you
sue
it would agree with it, and that he had no intention of having anyone
assume that the draft was written by anyone other than him?
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On Wed, Nov 06, 2002 at 10:21:01PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> >>"Anthony" == Anthony Towns writes:
> Anthony> On Wed, Nov 06, 2002 at 09:38:36PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> >> Since they are not derived from the one true editor. Apart from
> &g
On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 02:09:44AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> >>"Anthony" == Anthony Towns writes:
> No. That is improbable enough to be funny. It takes a tongue
> in cheek swipe at the mother of all geeky religious wars, that you
> are too bured out fro
agreeing with
me in public, and you've already demonstrated once that you're unable to
stop the insults even when you do try. Are you really that thin skinned?
If so, we can make allowances.
That you're just doing this to amuse yourself would be plausible too,
but wouldn't explain w
ld I take it seriously anyway? You're
welcome to reply privately if it is the case and you don't overly want
to talk about it publically. I still find it hard to understand why
you'd be afraid of disagreeing with anyone on a mailing list.
> This discussion is ended.
You've
losed in any of the uploads since the tag was applied) it's probably
better to add [lowpri] to the bug's subject, then use
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=xutils&exclude=subj:[lowpri]
to get the sanitized page. An inaccurate "pending" tag probably makes it
less likely for people to provide patches, etc, which would presumably
be a loss. Apologies if the assumption's incorrect, of course.
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lowing is likely to be useful to the ctte's further
deliberations, so retitled and moved to -project; -ctte and branden
Cc'ed for their convenience. M-F-T hopefully set to -project.
> On Tue, Nov 12, 2002 at 02:28:34AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
> > (1) All bugs have an obje
^^
We don't have official security mirrors. Probably should rethink that.
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sn't this whole thread about our users demanding it?
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``Dear Anthony Towns: [...] Congratulations --
On Wed, Apr 30, 2003 at 12:16:14AM -0700, Chris Waters wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 30, 2003 at 04:48:29PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
> > Isn't this whole thread about our users demanding it?
> If that's your interpretation of the thread (and it's not mine), then
> had
ifferent to Windows, and if you don't want to suffer through relearning
all habits, you need either a book or a friend to guide you through it.
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January, fwiw. (He cited buggy support for large
files, and a range of potentially security problems that haven't been
verified as being problems or widely announced, but have been fixed)
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g has been changed to:
] pending
] A solution to this bug has been found and an upload will be
] made soon.
The (release critical) bugs above have been tagged pending for over a
month, so by the new definition the tag appears to not apply to the above
bugs.
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om austria)
debiangnulinux.com (gregory cercy)
debianlinux.com (ultsearch.com)
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Australian DMCA (the Digital Agenda Amendments) Un
ab, as a way of indirectly allowing users to sponsor particular
developers or projects? Is it possible for SPI or similar organisations
to manage such donations to minimise the amount of tax that's cut from it?
Are there any other benefits that a group should or could receive from
being called
igs
There's a patch to apt floating around that integrates this checking
properly too.
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nd because it's simply in the same spirit as clauses like "if
you modify this software you must change its name".
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On Sun, Oct 05, 2003 at 03:47:15PM +1000, Martin Michlmayr - Debian Project
Leader wrote:
> * Anthony Towns [2003-09-20 17:07]:
> > By contrast, I wouldn't have a problem in principle with, eg, "HP
> > Debian Labs".
> I'd also have no problems with this. H
On Thu, Oct 09, 2003 at 04:58:22PM +, Dylan Thurston wrote:
> On 2003-10-09, Anthony Towns wrote:
> >> > non-free on such machines? Unpackaged stuff? Stuff packaged locally? LSB
> >> > stuff? Proprietary stuff like win4lin or CrossoverOffice?
> >> non-fre
On Fri, Oct 10, 2003 at 10:05:57PM +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote:
> Hi, Anthony Towns wrote:
> > .au law is that you can't make donations for work on Debian
> > tax deductible.
> Why not?
Charitable organisations have to fulfill a particular set of rules;
like being e
Which is nice and all, but not really very exciting.
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been like, which developers
are employed there, stuff like that.
At worst, that sort of information at least gives the people working
there the ability to say "Hey, you got $1.3M in donations last year,
how come we got a pay cut, and had to solder our broken motherboards
back together ourselve
On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 11:40:46PM -0700, Benj. Mako Hill wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 12, 2003 at 04:07:51PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
> > On Sat, Oct 11, 2003 at 10:58:30PM +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote:
> > > > Charitable organisations have to fulfill a particular set of rule
ib must be freely distributable,
] and wherever possible should be under a DFSG-free license. This
] will likely become a requirement post-sarge.
-- http://people.debian.org/~ajt/sarge_rc_policy.txt
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On Fri, Jan 16, 2004 at 11:18:03PM -0500, Alfie Costa wrote:
> Alas, kindly BTS 'bot, it was...
> > From: Anthony Towns
> > yawn
> Sleep is a beautiful thing Tony, maybe if you had more rest you wouldn't be
> as grumpy.
If you're talking to me, my name
he might, and she's called a
flake, mentally unstable and sexist for her beliefs.
Seems like all those responses do is demonstrate she was completely
rational and correct in the first place about Debian being unnecessarily
hostile.
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t; being put down by men?
>
> Note that I don't want to put women in a ghetto here,
Sounds more like you're leaving the rest of us in the ghetto to me...
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On Thu, Mar 04, 2004 at 11:25:59AM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
> Anthony Towns writes:
> > So, Helen is kind enough to summarise her views on why she doesn't
> > participate in the project as fully as she might, and she's called a
> > flake, mentally unst
xpectations on ourselves, as members, of civil,
pleasant, and inoffensive communication throughout the project?
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Linux
something that is true and technically significant because it
> might upset somebody.
"Debian includes non-free software"
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of the talk, so I wouldn't presume to justify
the presentation or apologise for it on his behalf.
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Linux.conf.au 2
main, with dangling
> dependencies
This would be in violation of the social contract: "we will never make
the system depend on an item of non-free software".
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seconded the proposal, any of the people who support the proposal,
or everyone else in the project who'll be abiding by the resolution
if it passes. I have no idea why you wish to single my opinions out in
that manner.
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ke this in the past -- ie, ones that you specifically can't build on
some architectures. No idea if there are any currently.
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of the Earth-Minbari war.
And hey, we all know what happens to people who don't learn the lessons
of history!
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Li
with the DPL office, suspect for their motivations in seeking it.
"I can't see the point of the DPL position. Therefore there isn't
one. Therefore everyone who has run for the DPL position is innately
evil or immoral."
And people wonder why DPLs aren't more active or eff
got better things to worry about.
If you're really curious, it's not that hard to find out what's going on.
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t there's an existing "Debian Desktop" project for a start, eg.
Worrying about our legal rights is the *last* step in resolving
misunderstandings; open source is *specifically* about ensuring everyone
gets to contribute in whatever way they can; it's not an excuse to let
people pl
refer talking to our lawyers than our users?
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