Neil McGovern wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 12:47:06PM +0200, Ansgar wrote:
> > I'm not concerned about marking messages read after some time and
> > keeping the view time in ephermal storage for that. But that's not
> > what Discourse does: as described elsewhere it stores all read times
> >
On Mon, 13 Apr 2020 22:23:30 +0200
Martin wrote:
> - Badges. "Earned 'First Emoji'", "Earned 'Anniversary'". Is it only
> me? But I feel devalued and belittled by gamification.
No, it is not only you that dislikes them. I feel they are a
distraction and I think many in our community struggle t
Fri Sep 13 12:06:35 GMT+01:00 2019 Dmitry Eremin-Solenikov :
> чт, 12 сент. 2019 г. в 20:30, Sam Hartman :
> > For example, Vcs-Git fields in source packages must not refer to
> > proprietary git code management systems. Non-Debian services are
> > acceptable here so long as they are princip
On Thu, 14 Mar 2019 09:27:31 +0100
Matthias Hager wrote:
> Now I understnad the anger
My anger is that you impersonated Matthias Hager to get attention
for an inaccurate news article. If you understand that, why do you
keep going?
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"Yao Wei (魏銘廷)" wrote:
> As OCF is now a trusted organization in Debian [1], I'd like to ask if it is
> okay for OCF to receive donations on behalf of Debian Project [2]. And, if
> so,
> how to donate and specify the donation for Debian Project. The monthly
> program
> (300壯士) [3] doesn't have
Sam Hartman wrote:
> However, I also thing it's desirable that we have some probability of
> being able to engage a legal process if we needed to. [...]
> That's something we should not stand for, and being able to respond to
> that sort of thing in the legal system does have to do with a binding
On 31 July 2014 01:03:00 CEST, Charles Plessy wrote:
>Back to the question of rebranding, the PHP developers have already
>explained
>that because PHP is a three-letter word, they are not in a position to
>protect their name with a trademark. Therefore, they do it with a
>license.
>
>We can not
On 05/09/13 10:22, Michael Meskes wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 04, 2013 at 08:48:59PM +0100, MJ Ray wrote:
>> Most importantly, what is the aim of picking a random size limit?
>
> The size limit is not exactly random, but it may be too high or too low.
Great, but what is the aim of
k for these companies.
At the moment, the debian-companies list feels like a solution to no
problem yet occurring and that's partly why it has only 4 members.
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On 03/09/13 19:14, Michael Meskes wrote:
> Right and we already have a debian-consultants mailing list, don't we?
Yes, and that list is also struggling, so why fork it?
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s, http://venturecommunism.com is trying to open
> source the business models.
I'm unlikely to do so (I'm a statistician not an electronics guy), but
I'll make a note so that we can point any of the infrequent membership
enquiries from hardware hackers towards it!
Regards,
to help answer them. I'm
not sure we're any closer to answers yet.
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hanges?
Disclosure: like many developers, I'm listed on
http://www.debian.org/consultants/ but don't get much work from it.
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maintenance and costs of enforcement necessary to prevent it
becoming generic), but I'd prefer those who are based and trading
significantly with the debian logo in the US to make the decision.
Shall I poll http://www.debian.org/consultants/#US or has someone?
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Lucas Nussbaum
> The agenda is online[1]. If you are listed on one of the pending
> actions, it would be great if you could describe its status, [...]
It would probably work better if the announcement says who the people
listed are, rather than expect all recipients to open a link with a
suitably
Wouter Verhelst proposed:
> The Debian mailinglists exist to foster the development and use of
> Debian. This Code of Conduct exists to help towards that goal.
>
> In particular, the following rules should be adhered to by participants
> to discussion on Debian mailinglists:
That second paragrap
MJ Ray phonecoop.coop> writes:
> [registration] allows law
> enforcement officers to prosecute what they consider infringement,
> whether or not we do. This is one way that multinationals make
> taxpayers pay for policing their brands - however, debian is not
> locked down like
Brian Gupta
> Pros:
> -
> - Makes it easier, legally speaking, to protect our trademark, if it
> ever came to it
Is this a significant benefit? How many protection actions have been
prevented by the lack of registration?
> - When companies are doing trademark searches for logos in the
> tra
"Lee Gilbert C [Contractor]"
> Good Morning, please forgive my lack of knowledge as I am not a Debian Linux
> expert. I am seeking information about the latest announced server Operating
> System for Debian Linux. I realize that the latest version is Debian Linux
> version 6.0, but has there be
nd so they gradually bitrot.
Even the DFSGLicenses wiki page was last edited 2012-08-16 and now
appears to be immutable.
Who wants this index? Who's willing to put the time in? I'd be happy
to help, although I won't lead another attempt.
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Leandro Gómez
> Yes, please stop this nonsense!
OK, sure, but could everyone also please stop this sort of nonsense:
> If you haven't been part of local team organizing a DebConf, you don't know
> how frustrating and demoralizing this kind of discussion is. [...]
and (quoting Gunnar Wolf):
> w
to the project that are probably good for us to know about. The
"active and directly involved participant in the Debian development
community" isn't the same as "current debian developers".
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s drafted later and decided in maybe five or six months' time,
good luck with it and thank you for grasping this nettle.
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In My
am/bugs.html
might give some tips on what to put in the email to get the best replies.
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Filipus Klutiero wrote:
> 5. A request/demand that people concerned with specific patent issues
> do not share their concerns, except with the contact point mentioned
> in 3.
>
> [...] 5. is, however, anti-transparency, and IMO against
> our ethics. Such a position statement cannot be ma
Gunnar Wolf
> [...] if debian-women as re-formed today, it would probably be called
> debian-inclusiveness or something like that. It just does not stop at
> welcoming women and making Debian a gender-agnostic place.
So rename it?
> And, guys and girls in d-women, you are for me one of the most
Francesca Ciceri
> a recent discussion [1] on Debian Women mailing list made me realize that
> the Debian Project, the *Universal* Operating System, doesn't have a
> diversity statement [2].
I have three worries:
1. what's the point? What will actually change as a result of this
statement? When
k I used to start http://www.debian.org/legal/licenses/ ;-)
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sts.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2011/12/msg0.html
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2012/01/msg1.html
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2012/02/msg1.html
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.
>
> This is what I asked for before, but what MJ Ray gave me was just one
> license and Josselin didn't answered. And MJ didn't saw a reason for
> making a list.
I don't feel that's accurate. The request was for "a list with the
OSI-approved licenses that [Jos
Russ Allbery
> MJ Ray writes:
> > Uoti Urpala
> >> [...] A meaningful trademark license cannot permit everything permitted
> >> under the DFSG; at some point you do have to rebrand the software and
> >> remove use of trademarks to be allowed to further exerc
Uoti Urpala
> [...] A meaningful trademark license cannot permit everything
> permitted under the DFSG; at some point you do have to rebrand the
> software and remove use of trademarks to be allowed to further
> exercise DFSG freedoms (a limitation allowed by DFSG 4).
Hi! This looks like the unpr
Gervase Markham
> On 20/02/12 03:43, Craig Small wrote:
> > That all sounds like a good reason to reject this hypothetical package.
> > Retrospectively being able to change the trademark terms sounds like a
> > "tentacles of evil" problem.
>
> Surely only if the "remove the trademark now, please"
d of more of that happening in
> the future.
Words are cheap. When will OSI revoke some of the bloopers?
I think the Debian project maybe should be involved, but affiliation
would be premature.
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Uoti Urpala
> Craig Small debian.org> writes:
> > All of the sections in the DFSG are important. We could of, when
> > framing the DFSG, gone the easy path and not had a section 8 but we
> > didn't. To me the requirements that we will not accept a
>
> You can't trust entities like Debian to st
ge names in descriptions, so that users can at least
find the renamed software in search results.
Of course, I'm very happy that silly things like function-renaming
are generally not accepted, and that we keep on showing solidarity
with derived distributions by not accepting debian-specif
Jose Luis Rivas
> On 02/17/2012 06:11 PM, MJ Ray wrote:
> > http://people.debian.org/~mjr/legal/fsf-osi-list-diff.txt
> > shows the ones where OSI and FSF disagree, but what's the
> > point of knowing which are involved? Basically, OSI has
> > aided proliferation.
Philip Hands
> On Fri, 17 Feb 2012 22:41:10 +0000, MJ Ray wrote:
> > Jose Luis Rivas
> > > Just to give context to your email, could you provide a list with the
> > > OSI-approved licenses that you call non-free? (Maybe a link) [...]
> > http://people.debian.org
shows the ones where OSI and FSF disagree, but what's the
point of knowing which are involved? Basically, OSI has
aided proliferation.
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. I encourage people to respond to the consultation mentioned above.
> It actually looks pretty good. [...]
I agree with Phil. Maybe some ideas/tips will be thrown around on
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/fsfe-uk/ before the consultation
closes.
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Stefano Zacchiroli
> On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 10:06:56PM +0000, MJ Ray wrote:
> > I would be disappointed if this happened. The Open Source Initiative
> > failed, for reasons that aren't important at this point - they should
> > belatedly accept that and merge its corpo
Stefano Zacchiroli
> as you might have heard post-FOSDEM, the Open Source Initiative (OSI)
> is opening up to an affiliate membership structure [1,2]. As I've
> already mentioned in [3], representatives of OSI have approached me to
> know if Debian is interested into joining. I'd like to discus
Stefano Zacchiroli
> as recent events have shown, we need to discuss our general stance on
> trademarks and the impact that trademark licenses (should) have on the
> content of the Debian archive. [...]
Thank you for pushing this important but depressing topic forwards.
> Impact analysis [...
FAQ. But I don't use their non-free stuff.
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Joerg Jaspert wrote:
> We feel that it is infeasible for Debian to be in complete compliance
> with the current GNOME trademark license. [...]
OK, sorry if this is an old chestnut, but do we actually need a
licence in general? Is most of the use in Debian more than honest
description of the sourc
org/devel/dmup (I'm not
a rich guy and need to earn a living, you know?) although I don't send
much about my business to debian lists.
So, in summary: not corporate pressure and not debian's list policies
but a reflection of local laws, and policies of other lists.
That went on
"John Larysz"
> I have corrupted my apache2 server and deleted a key directory -
> /etc/apache2. Nothing I do with dpkg or apt-get seems to put this directory
> back. How do I re-install apache2?
I suspect that purging and then installing all packages with apache2
anywhere in their name would pu
Rocco, Rick wrote:
> I am an export compliance coordinator with HP. I am currently
> reviewing applications for exportability. Could you please provide
> the Export Control Classification Number (ECCN) and the Commerce
> Classification and Tracking System number (CCATS), if applicable, or
> the loc
Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> I am going to be quite blunt. Please be forewarned.
Likewise.
> It is, however, a really bad idea to suggest experimentation should not
> be attempted because it might fail. The failure mode here is not
> catastrophic; there is no need to be excessively cautious. Painting
bad if there are bad answers or no answers there.
ask.debian.net seems unconnected to the lists - it adds nothing to them
and that's disappointing.
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> Hello
> South Korea is a high school student I am.
> In 2009, is to use Debian.
> Use more than one family was Radhat Useful.
> But a book on Debian because it was hard to study.
> So you want to study my junior and Debian Linux users to write a book.
>
> Debian Linux as a commercial license to
Carsten Hey wrote:
> * Charles Plessy [2010-08-15 00:20 +0900]:
> > Le Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 01:26:45PM +0200, Carsten Hey a écrit :
> > > Shouldn't it be mentioned in the licenses description that the expat
> > > license sometimes wrongly is referred to as MIT license?
> >
> > I wonder if the tradi
Stephen Frost wrote:
> And so, I'd like to open this idea up to discussion, in particular to
> those who were not part of the discussion at DebConf. I don't believe
> forming of this group requires any particular delegation from the DPL
> at this time, but as this concept grows and becomes
Toni Mueller wrote:
> I've just been pointed to this:
> http://www.reddit.com/comments/cb3n0/are_you_a_canadian_linux_user_youre_about_to/
>
> I'd like the project to assess the impact of this kind of legislation,
> and to publicly speak out against it.
Propose a Position Statement GR then becaus
andi...@doctor.com
> I wanted to make a debian linux training in Indonesia ..
> because here we received information about debian linux very hard to come by
> ..
> I want to make training easier for debian linux community issues on linux
> debian Indonesia.
> whether this training free??
> please
Ben Finney wrote:
> Steve Langasek writes:
> > One concern I have with the current DEP5 draft is that the set of
> > keywords for common licenses is very NIH.
>
> Well, that speaks to motives (NIH) that I don't think were present. I
> think it's just that the obvious clearing houses for license i
sing/licenses/gpl-faq.html#GPLRequireSourcePostedPublic
If there is evidence, I suggest you contact one of the copyright
holders (see the About box of a supplied program) and/or the FSF,
http://www.fsfeurope.org/ftf/ or GPL-Violations.org
http://gpl-violations.org/faq/violation-faq.html
Hope that
Russ Allbery wrote:
> Charles Plessy writes:
> > [...] but Debian could support companies started by its developers
> > to make a living of their Debian-related activities, by contributing to
> > their capital. [...]
>
> We can't do that with moneys collected in the United States under the
> ae
Tollef Fog Heen
> | Personally, I'd be more likely to see the wnpp mails if they weren't
> | in amongst the rest of devel. I'm not sure whether or not I'd stop
> | reading devel again if that happened.
>
> Am I understanding you correctly in that the wnpp mails are a prime
> reason for you readi
"Bernhard R. Link"
> [1] And as you gave no facts and just called names, you are sure you
> are not meaning
> "I do not understand what you are talking about and cannot assess if it
> is something important" instead?
This is exactly the sort of personalisation of discussions which
should really n
"Bernhard R. Link"
> * Ben Finney [090819 00:42]:
> > Your distinction is lost on me; pointing out that someone has presented
> > a logical fallacy *is* saying what is wrong. That we have succinct
> > labels with well-established meanings serves to more quickly communicate
> > what is wrong, whic
eral, I suspect the above is true and it would reduce the
number of people reading the wnpp mails. What proportion of devel
is wnpp email? How frequently are they given as a reason by people
who don't read devel?
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Marc Haber wrote:
> I do sincerely hope that there will be a GR to overrule this decision.
Hoping doesn't make it happen. I'm upset by the horribly botched
process, but I'm not willing to reverse this decision for that alone.
I doubt I'm unusual in that, so anyone looking for a GR proposer
proba
Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 24 2009, MJ Ray wrote:
> > [...] the project should remain polite even in the
> > face of really daft ideas (like the 3017th report that our website CSS
> > is invalid just because the W3C validator is incomplete).
>
> C
Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> [...] I think that we can go over much to the other side: We should not
> be overly genteel about silly ideas. [...]
I don't think there's anything wrong with being a polite society
(=genteel) even when confronted with a silly idea.
Maybe the above should be gentle in
Steve Langasek wrote:
> For instance, I was gratified to see the statistics for debian-legal,
> because they support my position that the discussion there is being DoSed by
> non-DDs who are trying to use it as a forum to persuade Debian that their
> interpretation of the DFSG is the correct one.
w to make the analysis more
illuminating.
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Russ Allbery wrote:
> MJ Ray writes:
> > So this means ignoring any concerns and pressing on regardless?
>
> Disagreeing with you is not the same thing as ignoring concerns. Making
> that accusation is a cheap debate tactic. Without mind-reading, you have
> no idea whethe
Jurij Smakov wrote:
> The 'mailvoting' alioth project [0] has been created. There are also
> two mailing lists, 'mailvoting-discuss' and 'mailvoting-devel', for
> general discussion and implementation discussion, respectively. Please
> subscribe [1] to them, if you are interested in contributin
t to
> actually achieve a real, well considered, consensus in that time.
OK, so this proposal means people would spend more time on each GR.
I feel that's probably a bad consequence.
> MJ Ray wrote:
> > [...] also, it's 30 DDs, not 30 people.
>
> I'm not sure what y
Josselin Mouette wrote: [...]
> WTF are you trying to prove? “Send me email otherwise that means I’m
> right!”
No, I'm attempting to disprove my belief because I don't see how to
prove it. http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2009/01/msg00050.html
Knowing for sure that I was wrong is as useful
Cyril Brulebois wrote:
> MJ Ray (07/01/2009):
> > It's hard to prove that a group is ignoring something, but disproof is
> > simple: please could all DDs reading this email mjr-possiblegr at
> > debian.org. I'll count with from -f possiblegr.mbox | wc -l in a
&g
I believe that most debian developers ignore discussions of possible
GRs like the current one, until/unless they look like reaching the
required number of seconds to trigger a vote.
It's hard to prove that a group is ignoring something, but disproof is
simple: please could all DDs who watch pre-pr
Stephen Gran wrote:
> This one time, at band camp, MJ Ray said:
> > Many DDs ignore -project and even most stuff on -vote
> > unless/until it looks likely to get enough seconds, don't they?
>
> You're the one making the assertion, I think the onus is on you to p
Joerg Jaspert wrote:
> > In general, that's correct. In particular, if you need 30 people just
> > to *start* the discussion period, that's going to kill many potential
> > options before they have any chance of building consensus and others
> > will be far too entrenched by the time public discu
Michael Goetze wrote:
> MJ Ray wrote:
> > to reduce GRs, having
> > another way for developers to ask a question that nearly always gets
> > answered might help.
>
> Such as, say, writing an email to debian-de...@ldo?
On inspection, that works more than I thought, but
Ron wrote:
> > On Fri, 02 Jan 2009, MJ Ray wrote:
> > In the past, I've seen considerable resistance to vote topics being
> > discussed outside -vote, unless they're by one of a few popular DDs.
> > Do supporters of nQ expect this situation to change, only those
Nick Phillips wrote:
> On 22/12/2008, at 9:42 PM, MJ Ray wrote:
> > Show me the numbers. I believe that the current "silent majority" is
> > by definition silent and most of it will continue to be silent,
> > watching lists just in case something useful appears and
Don Armstrong wrote:
> On Fri, 02 Jan 2009, MJ Ray wrote:
> > Sorry - I'm with Wouter Verhelst on this. Having options on the
> > ballot that only a small minority of DDs support can help resolve
> > conflicts: it lays them to rest, demonstrating they fail in the
>
Don Armstrong wrote:
> On Tue, 30 Dec 2008, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > In general, I believe it is okay to second a ballot option that you
> > do not plan to rank first if you feel it is an important matter that
> > you want to see resolved. The statement "I second this proposal"
> > only means "I
Frans Pop wrote:
> On Tuesday 30 December 2008, MJ Ray wrote:
> > I add the outcomes to the start of the line:-
> > Proposal F chosen > - Proposal F on the last vote; 17 seconds
>
> Eh, that's incorrect.
Eh, that's unhelpful. I found both the email's terms
Wouter Verhelst wrote: [...]
> Well, I disagree on that point. I just had a look at the vote.debian.org
> pages, checking those votes where the number of seconds exceeded 10, and
> found only the following ones:
I add the outcomes to the start of the line:-
Proposal F chosen > - Proposal F on th
the next
step. Why should it be more?
Note: I counted number of participants with the rc shell command:
; curl -s http://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2008/^(10 11 12)^/ \
| sed -n -e '/DFSG/{;s/^.*//;s/<.*$//;p;}' | sort | uniq -c | wc -l
79
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should thrive to find
> common ground.
shows that you can state a good conclusion despite a bad step. Maybe
that conclusion is a common ground?
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Filipus Klutiero wrote:
> MJ Ray wrote:
> > I consider filtered indices, auto-responses, shadow lists of only
> > "good" messages, highlighting, integration with db.debian.org and some
> > of the other uses for this data to be recommendation systems.
> >
recommendation list?
Please take care to attribute quotes correctly.
I consider filtered indices, auto-responses, shadow lists of only
"good" messages, highlighting, integration with db.debian.org and some
of the other uses for this data to be recommendation systems.
Regards
George Danchev wrote: [...]
> Well, I assume that the vote is a personal human right and that is common for
> all the cultures out there (including regimes, since these peers are Debian
> citizens after all, if any ?). So anyone can vote on his/her own. I believe
> that is quite valid assumptio
er moderation/facilitation would be more
rewarding for the same effort.
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(like http://www.grouplens.org/node/126 - "The recommendations that
are most accurate according to the standard metrics are sometimes not
the recommendations that are most useful to users") may be informative
for anyone who thinks that message-voting will surely work.
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George Danchev wrote:
> On Saturday 20 December 2008 21:33:27 MJ Ray wrote:
> > So, people who remain on the debian mailing lists have a poor
> > understanding of what should appear a good mailing list,
>
> What makes you think that "vocal minority" is larg
Jurij Smakov wrote: [...]
> So, what can we do about? During a little brainstorming session on IRC
> last night a following idea has emerged: let's have a way to express
> our opinion about the mailing list posts. [...]
So, people who remain on the debian mailing lists have a poor
understanding
eople can find me on
unltdworld.com but sadly elgg sites don't network yet.
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elf-contradicting way, so supporting
them (as opposed to mining them) is not in the public interest."
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martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2005/02/msg00079.html
[...]
> Why don't we just take each and every of those privileges and define
> criteria for how to obtain the privilege, and then simply give
> people privileges according to what they need, ra
Peter Palfrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, 30 Sep 2008, MJ Ray wrote:
> > Posting a simple mail like "I can't predict why we might want to move
> > it, but it seems like a possibility we should leave open and yes,
> > ftp-master was a symbolic name, b
Peter Palfrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...]
> It's just the usual nit-picking on anybody who actually does anything to
> improve our infrastructure. [...]
It's also combined with the usual failure by many people who improve
our infrastructure to accept they wrote a confusing email (ftp-maste
date my svenl FAQ?
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Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> [...] the rule that the FSF has about not linking to
> >> any non-free software from their sites, [...]
> > That rule is
Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...]
> My understanding of RMS's position is that he would like Debian to follow
> something like the rule that the FSF has about not linking to any non-free
> software from their sites, [...]
That rule is a myth. Their campaign sites like
http://badvista
Sounds good to me, as well as leaving the subdivision to the developer.
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