Wouter Verhelst <wou...@debian.org> wrote: [...] > Well, I disagree on that point. I just had a look at the vote.debian.org > pages, checking those votes where the number of seconds exceeded 10, and > found only the following ones:
I add the outcomes to the start of the line:- Proposal F chosen > - Proposal F on the last vote; 17 seconds Proposal A chosen > - Proposal A on 2008_002 (membership); 21 seconds Proposal A chosen > - Proposal A on 2007_004 (length DPL election); 20 seconds Amendment A chosen > - Amendment A on 2006_001 (GFDL); 15 seconds Proposal B chosen > - Proposal E on 2004_004 (sarge release after 2004_003): 16 seconds Amendment chosen > - Amendment on 2004_002 (status of non-free): 12 seconds So, in one case, the outcome was different to the most-seconded option. [...] > Now I do realize and agree that many people will probably not second > something anymore once a sufficient number of seconds has been issued; > but I think that, all things considered, 30 may be too much. Yes and more generally: I think there are obviously some interactions between being the first proposal, the number of seconds gathered, the voting preferences (and so the outcome) and the current required number of seconds. It's this last element which makes this analysis so unreliable, but the others play a part. > [...] However, raising the bar sixfold in one go is pushing it, IMO. I agree. There seems little rationale to support it. The more I've looked, the more places I've not found evidence for such a large seconding requirement and I know a few anecdotes about raising numbers too high and accidentally killing an organisation... Was 30 proposed as a "let's propose something extreme and see if we can get something less-but-sufficient-to-kill-nearly-all-GRs through" vanguard? Regards, -- MJR/slef My Opinion Only: see http://people.debian.org/~mjr/ Please follow http://www.uk.debian.org/MailingLists/#codeofconduct -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
