Le Sat, Sep 28, 2019 at 11:44:26AM +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz a écrit :
>
> In the future, gcc upstream expects all backends to be using MODE_CC for the
> internal register representation as the old CC0 is supposed to be removed.
>
> Since the lack of modernization would eventually mean tha
On Mon, Sep 30, 2019 at 1:14 AM John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
> Having said that, I'm going to unsubscribe from this list now as I realize
> that what we do in Debian Ports is still not considered useful many others,
> so I think it's not possible to find an agreement.
To be clear, I think the
On Sun, 29 Sep 2019, Hector Oron wrote:
>
> Reaching those forums or even organizing a crowd funding campaign might
> be more appropriate.
>
A democratic process like that may also be appropriate to disburse funding
from the Debian Project itself. E.g. Debian Developers could each vote for
a
On Sat, Sep 28, 2019 at 11:44:26AM +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
> As m68k is the oldest port of both the Linux kernel and Debian after i386,
> it would be a shame to see it go as there is still very good upstream support
> in the Linux kernel with new drivers being added regularly [4],
On Sun, 29 Sep 2019 12:22:21 +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
> On 9/29/19 12:13 PM, Hector Oron wrote:
> >> Not sure what the problem with LTS is. I thought companies pay for the
> >> extra effort. I think it's a perfectly fine business model.
> > As a very simple summary, companies pay an
Hello Brock!
On 9/29/19 4:10 PM, Brock Wittrock wrote:
> 1) It was a simple enough request and reasonable in my opinion. I'm also glad
> that he was willing to ask in the first place because as some say, when you
> don't ask the answer is already no anyways, so why not ask?
>
> 2) I understand
Totally agree, and thanks for bringing that up!
--
Samuel Henrique
On Sun, 2019-09-29 at 17:00 +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> Quoting Raphael Hertzog (2019-09-29 16:15:30)
[...]
> > * Freexian doesn't "use Debian volunteers", nobody is forced to work
> > for Freexian, they all asked to join the team of paid contributors.
> > But Freexian pays them for the
Quoting Raphael Hertzog (2019-09-29 16:15:30)
> On Sun, 29 Sep 2019, Hector Oron wrote:
> > > Not sure what the problem with LTS is. I thought companies pay for
> > > the extra effort. I think it's a perfectly fine business model.
> >
> > As a very simple summary, companies pay another company (D
Either ignore my ability to proofread my emails in their entirety or have a
good laugh at my two things that seemingly became 3. :)
Thanks,
Brock
On Sun, Sep 29, 2019 at 9:10 AM Brock Wittrock
wrote:
> Two things from this thread:
>
> 1) It was a simple enough request and reasonable in my opini
Two things from this thread:
1) It was a simple enough request and reasonable in my opinion. I'm also
glad that he was willing to ask in the first place because as some say,
when you don't ask the answer is already no anyways, so why not ask?
2) I understand though why the other side sees his req
Hi,
On Sun, 29 Sep 2019, Hector Oron wrote:
> > Not sure what the problem with LTS is. I thought companies pay for the
> > extra effort. I think it's a perfectly fine business model.
>
> As a very simple summary, companies pay another company (Debian
> unrelated) to use Debian volunteers time and
On Sun, Sep 29, 2019 at 7:58 PM John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
wrote:
>
> > Regardless, I think you have your answer.
> > Absent the appearance of significant new support, there is not
> > sufficient interest in spending Debian funds on m68k gcc development.
>
> I don't think we have heard enough voice
On Sun, Sep 29, 2019 at 01:58:13PM +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
I don't think we have heard enough voices yet to be able to answer that
question.
Are you really asking for a long list of +1s? Ok--I agree with the
majority of expressed opinions that this is a bad idea.
* John Paul Adrian Glaubitz:
> But I think the list on the page archive criteria is a bit dishonest as
> well when it asks "Are machines available to buy for the general public?"
> while I don't think an IBM Z mainframe is available to buy for the general
> public.
At last for upstream, the diffe
On 9/29/19 1:17 PM, Sam Hartman wrote:
> I'm a bit concerned about your argumentation style in this thread. It
> feels to me a lot like you're saying that people are wrong simply
> because they are disagreeing with you. In future discussions, I'd
> recommend finding a way of having the discussion
Hi Hector,
On Sun, Sep 29, 2019 at 12:49 PM Hector Oron wrote:
> Missatge de John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
> del dia dg., 29 de set. 2019 a les 12:20:
> > And there are embedded open source Coldfire boards being developed:
> >
> > > http://sysam.it/cff_amcore.html
> > > http://sysam.it/cff_stmark2.h
On Sun, Sep 29, 2019 at 12:48:51PM +0200, Hector Oron wrote:
> Missatge de John Paul Adrian Glaubitz del dia dg., 29 de set. 2019 a les
> 12:20:
.
> > As Linus stated in his mail, the Amiga never dies:
> >
> > > https://lkml.org/lkml/2019/9/24/993
>
> Reaching those forums or even o
On 9/29/19 12:48 PM, Hector Oron wrote:
> Missatge de John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
> del dia dg., 29 de set. 2019 a les 12:20:
>
>> I communicated the issue to multiple mailing lists, so I assume the active
>> m68k people have received my mail. But I haven't heard back from them.
>
> In particular,
I'm a bit concerned about your argumentation style in this thread. It
feels to me a lot like you're saying that people are wrong simply
because they are disagreeing with you. In future discussions, I'd
recommend finding a way of having the discussion that acknowledges
disagreement and is more foc
On Sun, Sep 29, 2019 at 09:34:48AM +, Holger Levsen wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 28, 2019 at 05:04:47PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote:
> > I concur, especially as Debian also distributes shotwell.
>
> +1
And as someone who doesn't use shotwell, and has strong opinions against
many things done by Gnome:
Hello,
Missatge de John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
del dia dg., 29 de set. 2019 a les 12:20:
> I communicated the issue to multiple mailing lists, so I assume the active
> m68k people have received my mail. But I haven't heard back from them.
In particular, have you reached to Andreas Schwab?
(> Is t
On 9/29/19 12:13 PM, Hector Oron wrote:
>> Not sure what the problem with LTS is. I thought companies pay for the
>> extra effort. I think it's a perfectly fine business model.
>
> As a very simple summary, companies pay another company (Debian
> unrelated) to use Debian volunteers time and Debian
On 9/29/19 12:07 PM, Hector Oron wrote:
>> So, would -project be willing to support our cause through Debian funds?
>
> I have been looking at
> https://wiki.debian.org/ArchiveQualification/m68k, I was expecting
> some answers to the questions proposed at
> https://ftp-master.debian.org/archive-cr
Hello,
Missatge de John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
del dia dg., 29 de set. 2019 a les 12:06:
> Not sure what the problem with LTS is. I thought companies pay for the
> extra effort. I think it's a perfectly fine business model.
As a very simple summary, companies pay another company (Debian
unrelated
Hello,
Missatge de John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
del dia ds., 28 de set. 2019 a les 11:44:
> So, would -project be willing to support our cause through Debian funds?
I have been looking at
https://wiki.debian.org/ArchiveQualification/m68k, I was expecting
some answers to the questions proposed at
h
On 9/28/19 9:07 PM, Guillem Jover wrote:
> I'm afraid this argument cuts both ways. I would find it extremely
> demotivating if Debian started spending money to pay people to work
> on tasks that up to now have been volunteer based (where volunteer
> of course can include a company volunteering emp
On Sat, Sep 28, 2019 at 05:04:47PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote:
> I concur, especially as Debian also distributes shotwell.
+1
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cheers,
Holger
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On Sat, Sep 28, 2019 at 09:07:51PM +0200, Guillem Jover wrote:
> > what about keeping old contributors attracted?
> I'm afraid this argument cuts both ways. I would find it extremely
> demotivating if Debian started spending money to pay people to work
> on tasks that up to now have been volunteer
On 9/29/19 3:14 AM, Paul Wise wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 28, 2019 at 5:44 PM John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
>
>> Since Debian is also supporting projects for a good cause using their funds,
>
> Do you have any examples of this? AFAIK we don't support development
> nor external projects using Debian f
+1
Absolutely in support against this cancerous troll organization.
Z
On September 28, 2019 11:04:03 PM GMT+02:00, Chris Lamb
wrote:
>Dear -project,
>
>For those not yet aware, Rothschild Patent Imaging LLC has filed a
>lawsuit against the GNOME Foundation on the grounds that their
>"Shotwell"
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