Re: Are online services also software for Debian's rules?

2017-08-13 Thread Russ Allbery
Miles Fidelman writes: > Getting past all the obfuscatory count and counterpoint, there seem to > be two clear questions on the table: > 1. Given a piece of FOSS client software, that has no purpose other > than to interface with a proprietary back-end service (say a FOSS > twitter GUI), should

Re: Are online services also software for Debian's rules?

2017-08-13 Thread Russ Allbery
"Dr. Bas Wijnen" writes: > Also, I don't want to move lots of software to contrib. I would much > rather have it fixed by removing the support for the non-free services, > or by having plugin systems that allow only the non-free-interfacing > part to be in contrib. I believe this would be hugel

Re: On the Anti Harassment Team

2017-08-13 Thread Laura Arjona Reina
Hi all El 13/08/17 a las 21:28, Sotirios Vrachas escribió: >> 3) Members: the job that our team does is quite taxing and in order to be >> responsive we would like to have new members, and work on a rotational >> basis (i.e. two or three years of term, not forever) to avoid burn-out. >> Additional

Re: Are online services also software for Debian's rules?

2017-08-13 Thread Miles Fidelman
On 8/13/17 1:05 PM, Dr. Bas Wijnen wrote: My purpose of this thread (which is a question asked elsewhere) is to find out if there is consensus about this issue. If there isn't, I don't want to bother everyone with a mass bug report. Which, as Russ pointed out, would be a pretty large operation

Re: On the Anti Harassment Team

2017-08-13 Thread Sean Whitton
Hello, On Sun, Aug 13 2017, Margarita Manterola wrote: > 4) Name: we find that "anti harassment" is not a great name both > because it's negative and because it puts people on edge when we > contact them. We asked people to suggest other names. The current > best suggestion that we have is "Res

Re: Are online services also software for Debian's rules?

2017-08-13 Thread Dr. Bas Wijnen
On Sat, Aug 12, 2017 at 12:07:51PM +0200, Vincent Bernat wrote: > ❦ 12 août 2017 09:12 GMT, "Dr. Bas Wijnen"  : > > No, it doesn't. 2.2.1 says "None of the packages in the main archive area > > require software outside of that area to function." In other words, if > > software outside of main wo

Re: On the Anti Harassment Team

2017-08-13 Thread Sotirios Vrachas
> 3) Members: the job that our team does is quite taxing and in order to be > responsive we would like to have new members, and work on a rotational > basis (i.e. two or three years of term, not forever) to avoid burn-out. > Additionally, we believe that we need extra training to be better prepared

Re: On the Anti Harassment Team

2017-08-13 Thread Sotirios Vrachas
>> 4) Name: we find that "anti harassment" is not a great name both because >> it's negative and because it puts people on edge when we contact them. We >> asked people to suggest other names. The current best suggestion that we >> have is "Respect & Inclusion team" with resp...@debian.org as the

Re: On the Anti Harassment Team

2017-08-13 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Sun, 2017-08-13 at 17:11 +0200, Margarita Manterola wrote: [...] > 4) Name: we find that "anti harassment" is not a great name both because > it's negative and because it puts people on edge when we contact them.  We > asked people to suggest other names.  The current best suggestion that we > h

On the Anti Harassment Team

2017-08-13 Thread Margarita Manterola
During DebConf17 there was a BOF about the Anti-Harassment team. You can find links to slides, text, video and collaborative pad of the discussion in our wiki page: https://wiki.debian.org/AntiHarassment . We presented a status report of the issues that had been handled during the past year as wel