Re: Bug#382129: Beta3 won't boot on OldWorld PowerPC Mac

2006-08-14 Thread Rick Thomas
Hi Brian, It's good to know I'm not completely alone! If you have any ideas, please share them. Maybe I can try them myself. Enjoy! Rick On Aug 14, 2006, at 12:39 AM, brian wrote: i also have a g3 like ricks but it is not transportable, sorry... (but yah i got the same results as him). i

Re: 17" Powerbook fan turns on when starting into Ubuntu Dapper

2006-08-15 Thread Rick Thomas
On Aug 15, 2006, at 11:31 PM, Adam D wrote: Every Debian install disk has graphic issues when starting into Debian. As soon as the kernel boots I get funky graphic lines that wave on the screen. I don't get any of this when using the Ubuntu install disk at all. Does this web page from

Re: Bug#382129: Beta3 won't boot on OldWorld PowerPC Mac

2006-08-18 Thread Rick Thomas
On Aug 18, 2006, at 7:59 AM, Aurélien GÉRÔME wrote: Hi, On Sun, Aug 13, 2006 at 03:19:18AM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: Has *anybody* had any success getting the "Linux version 2.6.16-2- powerpc (Debian 2.6.16-17)" kernel to boot an OldWorld machine with BootX? Or *any* kernel af

Re: Bug#382129: Beta3 won't boot on OldWorld PowerPC Mac

2006-08-18 Thread Rick Thomas
On Aug 18, 2006, at 2:31 PM, Aurélien GÉRÔME wrote: What is PTBs? :) Powers that be...

Re: Bug#382129: Beta3 won't boot on OldWorld PowerPC Mac

2006-08-18 Thread Rick Thomas
On Aug 18, 2006, at 2:31 PM, Aurélien GÉRÔME wrote: Wow! great! I'm really glad somebody's working on that. Do you think it will be ready for inclusion in etch at release time? Rick

Re: Bug#382129: Beta3 won't boot on OldWorld PowerPC Mac

2006-08-18 Thread Rick Thomas
On Aug 18, 2006, at 2:31 PM, Aurélien GÉRÔME wrote: Well, aside the issue of booting, the kernel runs just fine and so does the user space... As you can look at , I think it is partially admitted in "Oldworld powerpc boot floppies will not

Re: Bug#382129: Beta3 won't boot on OldWorld PowerPC Mac

2006-08-18 Thread Rick Thomas
On Aug 18, 2006, at 5:58 PM, Aurélien GÉRÔME wrote: On Fri, Aug 18, 2006 at 02:52:24PM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: On Aug 18, 2006, at 2:31 PM, Aurélien GÉRÔME wrote: What is PTBs? :) Powers that be... On Fri, Aug 18, 2006 at 11:44:23AM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: Perhaps the Debian PTBs

Re: Bug#382129: Beta3 won't boot on OldWorld PowerPC Mac

2006-08-18 Thread Rick Thomas
On Aug 18, 2006, at 6:43 PM, Sven Luther wrote: On Sat, Aug 19, 2006 at 12:18:23AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: On Fri, Aug 18, 2006 at 11:58:07PM +0200, Aurélien GÉRÔME wrote: On Fri, Aug 18, 2006 at 02:52:24PM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: On Aug 18, 2006, at 2:31 PM, Aurélien GÉRÔME wrote

Re: Bug#382129: Beta3 won't boot on OldWorld PowerPC Mac

2006-08-19 Thread Rick Thomas
On Aug 19, 2006, at 2:20 PM, Harold Johnson wrote: http://people.debian.org/~wouter/d-i/powerpc-miboot/daily/powerpc/ floppy/ Still, I have to figure out how to make the physical floppies out of these images. That I'm sure I can figure out, but it's unclear to me whether they are inten

Re: Bug#382129: Beta3 won't boot on OldWorld PowerPC Mac

2006-08-19 Thread Rick Thomas
On Aug 19, 2006, at 6:29 PM, Harold Johnson wrote: In the meantime, I can continue using BootX -- not a real elegant solution, IMHO, but it works. Hi Harold, What magic did you have to use to get BootX to boot a 2.6.16 kernel for you? Thanks! Rick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL P

Re: Bug#382129: Beta3 won't boot on OldWorld PowerPC Mac

2006-08-22 Thread Rick Thomas
5 kernel, and this gives me a general idea. This also seems to answer the original question posed by Rick Thomas -- the question which began this thread. Rick, Let me know if there's anything I can test/do to help you get what you need. I know you're wanting 2.6.16, and I haven

Re: Bug#382129: Beta3 won't boot on OldWorld PowerPC Mac

2006-08-22 Thread Rick Thomas
On Aug 22, 2006, at 1:36 PM, Sven Luther wrote: On Tue, Aug 22, 2006 at 01:08:24PM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: Thanks! What we need most is for someone who has familiarity with the configuration options and build procedures for the powerpc kernel and initrd to take a look at the situation and

Re: grub2 on powerpc

2006-09-07 Thread Rick Thomas
On Sep 7, 2006, at 7:00 PM, Otavio Salvador wrote: Rick Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: I made this patch to enable grub2 for powerpc as well, but unfortunately I can't test it (no ppc hardware here). Would anyone like to try it? -- Robert Millan Hi Robert, I'd love

Re: grub2 on powerpc

2006-09-07 Thread Rick Thomas
On Sep 7, 2006, at 12:35 PM, Robert Millan wrote: Hi, As you might know, experimental grub2 support has been added to d-i when using the expert mode, but it is only yet available on i386/amd64. I made this patch to enable grub2 for powerpc as well, but unfortunately I can't test it (no

powerpc d-i daily ISOs are one week out of date.

2006-09-12 Thread Rick Thomas
The files in http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/ powerpc/iso-cd/ date from September 4th. Just incase nobody's noticed... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

powerpc d-i daily ISOs are back but broken. (was: one week out of date. )

2006-09-13 Thread Rick Thomas
On Sep 12, 2006, at 3:06 AM, Rick Thomas wrote: The files in http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/ powerpc/iso-cd/ date from September 4th. Just incase nobody's noticed... Well... Now the files there are from September 13th, but the businesscard ISO

Re: powerpc d-i daily ISOs are back but broken. (was: one week out of date. )

2006-09-15 Thread Rick Thomas
On Sep 15, 2006, at 4:53 AM, Colin Watson wrote: On Wed, Sep 13, 2006 at 09:44:02PM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: <0>Rebooting in 180 seconds... Maybe something wrong with the initrd? Or the new 2.6.17 kernel? Actually it was a debian-cd bug. Should be fixed now, thanks Thanks!

Re: powerpc d-i daily ISOs are back but broken. (was: one week out of date. )

2006-09-15 Thread Rick Thomas
On Sep 15, 2006, at 2:05 PM, Frans Pop wrote: On Friday 15 September 2006 19:02, Rick Thomas wrote: When should I expect to be able to burn a working businesscard (or netinst) CD? The CD build starting in about 4 hours should have the changes. Not sure if it will be working :-) Thanks

Re: powerpc d-i daily ISOs are back and (almost) working

2006-09-15 Thread Rick Thomas
On Sep 15, 2006, at 2:05 PM, Frans Pop wrote: The CD build starting in about 4 hours should have the changes. Not sure if it will be working :-) I tried tonight's businesscard iso on an Apple PowerMac G4. It booted and got into the installer. I walked it through its paces without in

Is now a good time to revisit installer not booting on OldWorld PowerMac beige G3?

2006-09-16 Thread Rick Thomas
Is there someone out there who will work with me to get a kernel that boots to run debian-installer on my beige G3 PowerMac (OldWorld) machine? As I reported in Bug#382129 regarding the Linux-powerpc 2.6.16 kernel not booting on my OldWorld test machine, I now find that the 2.6.17 kernel

Re: Bug#382129: Is now a good time to revisit installer not booting on OldWorld PowerMac beige G3?

2006-09-16 Thread Rick Thomas
On Sep 16, 2006, at 3:05 PM, Sven Luther wrote: On Sat, Sep 16, 2006 at 09:50:03AM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: On Saturday 16 September 2006 09:09, Rick Thomas wrote: Is there someone out there who will work with me to get a kernel that boots to run debian-installer on my beige G3 PowerMac

Re: powerpc d-i daily ISOs are back and (almost) working

2006-09-18 Thread Rick Thomas
On Sep 16, 2006, at 3:16 AM, Frans Pop wrote: When I switched to the -F2 console, it give me an unexpected error message: Known issue. Fixed in rootskel 1.37. Any idea when that will make it into a daily businesscard iso? Rick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject

Re: miboot-floppies (powerpc oldworld) for sarge

2006-12-19 Thread Rick Thomas
On Dec 19, 2006, at 9:54 AM, Holger Levsen wrote: Hi, On Saturday 16 December 2006 00:52, Sven Luther wrote: But why? People can install with 2.4 just fine and then later upgrade to 2.6, so why do the work and backport it? Because even when using 2.4 floppies, they will install the 2.6.8

Re: miboot-floppies (powerpc oldworld) for sarge

2006-12-19 Thread Rick Thomas
On Dec 19, 2006, at 10:09 PM, John Schmidt wrote: On Tuesday 19 December 2006 07:54, Holger Levsen wrote: Hi, On Saturday 16 December 2006 00:52, Sven Luther wrote: But why? People can install with 2.4 just fine and then later upgrade to 2.6, so why do the work and backport it? Because e

Re: miboot-floppies (powerpc oldworld) for sarge

2006-12-20 Thread Rick Thomas
Hi Sven, On Dec 20, 2006, at 2:16 AM, Sven Luther wrote: What is really needed is for confirmation with the current kernels that : 1) miboot booting works (or not). 2) bootx booting works (or not). 3) quik booting works (or not). Rick, you have been rather active in this, could i a

Re: miboot-floppies (powerpc oldworld) for sarge

2006-12-20 Thread Rick Thomas
On Dec 20, 2006, at 7:17 AM, Sven Luther wrote: Well, i think what would be interesting is maybe to have a wiki page, listing a cross table of all tested models, and the different boot methods, and listing the working reports and not working ones, or something. Then give out a call for te

Re: ports, big and small, two questions

2006-12-26 Thread Rick Thomas
On Dec 26, 2006, at 3:55 AM, brian wrote: 1) has anyone ran or heard of running debian on the *original* g3 powerbook, aka 3500/kanga ? (any version, say at least 2.2 kernel/potato or later) i have been playing with one i can't get it to boot right, and searching googles i have mostly seem

Re: sarge->etch on Performa 6360, new 2.6.18-3 kernel problems.

2006-12-27 Thread Rick Thomas
On Dec 27, 2006, at 3:15 AM, Michael Schmitz wrote: You can see some of the characters are corrupted - there are three columns of this corruption down the screen, flickering like there's some data flowing through the pixels in those characters, even when it sits there waiting for the root file

Re: ports, big and small, two questions

2006-12-27 Thread Rick Thomas
On Dec 27, 2006, at 3:47 AM, Sven Luther wrote: Terrasoft {YellowDog Linux} They are selling non-ppc apple though. Don't you mean "non-Apple ppc"? I don't recall seeing any non-ppc machines on their web-store. Rick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "

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2006-12-28 Thread Rick Thomas
Package: gnome-desktop I really don't know what package to file this bug report under. If I make it to "installation-reports", FJP will just say, "The installer did everything right, so I'm closing this report." which seems a little like the surgeon who said, "The operation was as success.

Re: sarge->etch on Performa 6360, new 2.6.18-3 kernel problems.

2006-12-28 Thread Rick Thomas
On Dec 28, 2006, at 4:19 AM, Michael Schmitz wrote: Another test: compile a kernel with nothing but the bare minimum of drivers (no ethernet, no disk, just ramdisk and keyboard) to see if that also shows screen corruption. Michael I also see this when I boot with "video=atyfb" but it

Re: Bug#404876:

2006-12-29 Thread Rick Thomas
On Dec 29, 2006, at 4:42 AM, Josselin Mouette wrote: Well, nothing really useful here, except this confirms this is a problem somewhere in the GStreamer stack. Reassigning. @debian-powerpc: as it seem to render gstreamer completely useless on G3 processors, I think this must be addressed

Re: sarge->etch on Performa 6360, new 2.6.18-3 kernel problems.

2006-12-29 Thread Rick Thomas
On Dec 29, 2006, at 4:32 AM, Michael Schmitz wrote: Rick, what kind of ATI card does your G3 have? The 3400 should have some sort of rage64 or even older type. "lspci -nn" gives me: ATI Technologies Inc 3D Rage I/II 215GT [Mach64 GT] (rev 9a) So that's a rage64 covered by atyfb ... Can

Re: Problems with GNOME on Beige G3

2006-12-29 Thread Rick Thomas
On Dec 29, 2006, at 1:47 PM, Yavor Doganov wrote: Rick Thomas wrote: The computer in question is an OldWorld PowerMac Apple Macintosh, "Beige G3" tower. This problem only happens on this machine. It does not occur on my G4 test box. I have a Beige G3 "Gossamer", n

Installing Debian on a Beige G3 PowerMac (OldWorld)

2006-12-29 Thread Rick Thomas
On Dec 29, 2006, at 9:34 PM, Stephen wrote: Rick wrote: But first a couple of questions: 1a) How much RAM do you have? 356 MB Good. That's plenty. I've heard of folks installing Etch on as little as 96MB but it's reported to be cramped. You've got enough that we won't have to wor

Re: Installing Debian on a Beige G3 PowerMac (OldWorld)

2006-12-29 Thread Rick Thomas
On Dec 30, 2006, at 1:33 AM, Rick Thomas wrote: If you are OK with OS9 and BootX, I suggest you get a copy of the BootX 1.2.2 (latest -- vintage April, 2000) software from BenH's web page, http://penguinppc.org/historical/benh/ and read the documentation that comes with it.

Re: Cannot apply network settings unless I reboot

2006-12-30 Thread Rick Thomas
On Dec 30, 2006, at 5:28 AM, Jack Malmostoso wrote: vasquez:~# route -n Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface 169.254.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.0.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 vasquez:~# cat /etc/resolv.conf # generated by

Re: Re:

2006-12-30 Thread Rick Thomas
On Dec 30, 2006, at 8:11 PM, Paul Mackerras wrote: Rick Thomas writes: However, after rebooting following the install, and logging in to gnome, it seems to be repeatedly trying to start/re-start something having to do with the appearance of the desktop. Things are very slow (as if a process

Re: Installing Debian on a Beige G3 PowerMac (OldWorld)

2006-12-31 Thread Rick Thomas
On Dec 31, 2006, at 9:00 PM, Dana Sibera wrote: On 30/12/2006, at 5:33:31PM, Rick Thomas wrote: If you are OK with OS9 and BootX, I suggest you get a copy of the BootX 1.2.2 (latest -- vintage April, 2000) software from BenH's web page, http://penguinppc.org/historical/benh/ and rea

Re: Installing Debian on a Beige G3 PowerMac (OldWorld)

2007-01-01 Thread Rick Thomas
On Jan 1, 2007, at 9:35 AM, Holger Levsen wrote: Bootx is mostly useful if you also want to boot mac os <=9, which is a even more rare usecase nowadays then running these machines at all :) If you only run linux, go with quik. (And for the troubles Rick mentions, have miboot floppies ready

Re: retiring from debian until end of february ...

2007-01-02 Thread Rick Thomas
On Jan 2, 2007, at 4:41 AM, Dean Hamstead wrote: i don't know the details of the argument, though i am disappointed that the leadership has not appropriately resolved the situation. but i think it can be safely said that computer skills != leadership skills. Indeed. This is a terrible fai

Re: unable to boot Motorola Powerstack II

2007-01-02 Thread Rick Thomas
On Jan 2, 2007, at 6:14 PM, Matthias Koch-Schirrmeister wrote: this sounds like the older sarge installer images, not latest etch. According to my filesystem info, I downloaded this from the debian site on December 20th. If possible, please try a "daily" installer image from: http://cd

Re: Debian has failed us

2007-01-14 Thread Rick Thomas
It's sad to see d-i on powerpc, a major architectural variant, being eroded and neglected as a result of a few people who can't get past their own personal animosity to Sven. Whatever his merits or demerits -- and I'm not going to get drawn into a debate on that topic -- the powerpc arch

Re: Debian has failed us

2007-01-15 Thread Rick Thomas
On Jan 15, 2007, at 12:39 AM, Christian Perrier wrote: Quoting Rick Thomas ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): It's sad to see d-i on powerpc, a major architectural variant, being eroded and neglected as a result of a few people who can't get past their own personal animosity to Sven. Whatever

Re: Debian has failed us

2007-01-16 Thread Rick Thomas
On Jan 16, 2007, at 8:46 PM, Mathew Binkley wrote: As I said earlier, there shouldn't be an arbitrary line between the installer and the packages. People aren't installing "Etch the installer" or "Etch the packages", they're installing "Etch the release". Test both parts simultaneously, a

PowerMac beige G3 - test of [Re: G3 (or other non-altivec machines) testers sought]

2007-01-21 Thread Rick Thomas
On Jan 14, 2007, at 5:08 PM, Sjoerd Simons wrote: The best hint to what the problem might be seems to indicate there is an issue in the libvisual altivec detection code[0].. I installed on my "beige G3" PowerMac (OldWorld) test machine. I used the latest d-i netinst CD dated 2007 Jan 21

Re: G3 (or other non-altivec machines) testers sought

2007-01-26 Thread Rick Thomas
On Jan 14, 2007, at 5:08 PM, Sjoerd Simons wrote: Hi, Gstreamer currently has a release critical bug that seems to be only reproducable on powerpc machines without altivec support and even then not always. The best hint to what the problem might be seems to indicate there is an is

Re: NTP / RTC problem driving me absolutely INSANE!

2007-02-09 Thread Rick Thomas
It sounds like a timezone problem. It could be one or both of two things: 1) Your hardware CMOS clock is set to something other than UTC or local time. For Linux, it must be one or the other -- UTC is preferable. In Linux as super-user, at the bash prompt type "(export TZ=UTC ; date ;

Re: NTP / RTC problem driving me absolutely INSANE!

2007-02-10 Thread Rick Thomas
rnel, which is custom compiled. But the kernel does say that if fails to access rtc0. Sorry this has been a bit of a rambling message that I hope makes some sense. Any further advice much appreciated. regards, Ananda On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 02:39:20 -0500 Rick Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]&

Re: NTP / RTC problem driving me absolutely INSANE! - cause of problem found

2007-02-10 Thread Rick Thomas
On Feb 10, 2007, at 3:56 AM, Ananda Samaddar wrote: Obviously OSX is messing about somewhere and support for OSX problems is also obviously not to be expected on this mailing list. Wrong assumption friend! We care about our friends here -- whether they are running OS-X or Linux (: or even

Re: G3 B/W fiber card blues

2007-02-12 Thread Rick Thomas
On Feb 5, 2007, at 2:56 AM, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: On Wed, 2007-01-31 at 10:57 -0600, Dan Page wrote: Hello. I've just joined this list so I apologize if this issue has been addressed: I've installed Debian sarge on a Blue and white G3. This box is planned to be used as a DNS res

Re: G3 B/W fiber card blues

2007-02-12 Thread Rick Thomas
On Feb 12, 2007, at 2:59 PM, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: I've got a couple of B&W G3 machines. I've tried every Debian kernel up thru the latest in SID. The pcilynx driver crashes on bootup every time. I can disable it by putting it in the blacklist file, which gives me a clean boot but

Re: G3 B/W pcilynx firewire blues

2007-02-12 Thread Rick Thomas
On Feb 12, 2007, at 7:22 PM, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: On Mon, 2007-02-12 at 15:30 -0500, Rick Thomas wrote: Maybe I should try the whole thing again and write down the details. Can you give me a URL for the linux ieee1394 mailing list? https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo

[powerpc] The PCILynx firewire driver is broken on PPC machines, and should be disabled.

2007-02-13 Thread Rick Thomas
Package: linux-2.6 When I boot Debian (Etch or Sarge) on my Blue&White PowerMac, with the old TI PCILynx firewire chip on the motherboard, the pcilynx driver crashes consistently. If I blacklist pcilynx, the crash goes away, but I have no firewire capability. https://lists.sourceforge

Bug#413424: xserver-xorg: xserver fails to start because of resource conflict on PowerMac beige G3 (OldWorld)

2007-03-04 Thread Rick Thomas
Package: xserver-xorg Version: 1:7.1.0-13 Severity: important Configuration is bog-standard PowerMac beige G3 tower (OldWorld) with ATI video controller on the motherboard. Details are in the attached configuration files and log files. I've tried this with both "ati" driver and "fbdev" driver.

Re: Mac mini: serious clock drift

2007-03-08 Thread Rick Thomas
On Mar 8, 2007, at 10:04 AM, Bram Senders wrote: Hi there, I am having issues with clock drift on my G4 Mac mini. The clock drifts so much that even ntpd can't keep up with it. I keep getting messages like "time reset +2.404131 s" from ntpd approximately every 15 to 20 minutes. Also, the

Re: Mac mini: serious clock drift

2007-03-09 Thread Rick Thomas
On Mar 9, 2007, at 9:51 AM, Bram Senders wrote: On Thu, Mar 08, 2007 at 06:08:57PM -0500, Rick Thomas wrote: On Mar 8, 2007, at 10:04 AM, Bram Senders wrote: I am having issues with clock drift on my G4 Mac mini. The clock drifts so much that even ntpd can't keep up with it. I keep ge

Re: Mac mini: serious clock drift

2007-03-11 Thread Rick Thomas
On Mar 11, 2007, at 2:16 PM, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: "Going wrong" happens at times after a system crash, e.g., when the times are set back to 1970 (and 2004, IIRC). These times I start all over with recalibrating the hardware clock ... I swear I hate these situations ... Hi Wolfgang, This

Re: A friendly plea for Linux PPC help!

2007-03-14 Thread Rick Thomas
On Mar 15, 2007, at 1:49 AM, Anthony Henson wrote: Hello there! I realize this is poor netiquitte but I keep seeing your posts on the mailing lists, and your set-up seems similar to mine. after about 20 installs of 3 different distros I finally got my old rev. 1 Beige G3 (2.01fOF, Patched n

Re: A friendly plea for Linux PPC help!

2007-03-18 Thread Rick Thomas
Hi Anthony, I see you've discovered the powerpc mailing list. That's good. It's the place where all the expertise is concentrated. While I appreciate your frustration, the best thing to do is ask one (or at most two related) simple question(s) per posting. You'll get the best and most

Re: A friendly plea for Linux PPC help!

2007-03-18 Thread Rick Thomas
On Mar 18, 2007, at 5:06 PM, Anthony Henson wrote: making some progress on my own here, got quik to start booting, but then it gives me default catch, and then claim failed... I don't know how to use this mailing list at all, I am such a newb. I mailed my thing to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or what

Re: A friendly plea for Linux PPC help!

2007-03-18 Thread Rick Thomas
On Mar 19, 2007, at 2:41 AM, Anthony Henson wrote: Hey look what I found! http://fare.livejournal.com/93274.html (do a find on quik) It was funny because I've actually got OF booting up quik! and quik is giving me a kernal! PANIC!!! tho! I think I know why, need to get the initrd goin,

Bug#415543: xorg: xserver crashes on beige G3 PowerMac

2007-03-19 Thread Rick Thomas
Package: xorg Version: 1:7.1.0-15 Severity: important (Note: this bugreport is about a beige G3 PowerMac tower, but the same problem also appears on my Blue&White G3 PowerMac.) Problem: X fails to start on a beige G3 PowerMac. I get the following error messages... In particular, note the mes

Re: Bug#415543: xorg: xserver crashes on beige G3 PowerMac

2007-03-19 Thread Rick Thomas
On Mar 20, 2007, at 1:19 AM, Rick Thomas wrote: Package: xorg Version: 1:7.1.0-15 Severity: important (Note: this bugreport is about a beige G3 PowerMac tower, but the same problem also appears on my Blue&White G3 PowerMac.) Problem: X fails to start on a beige G3 PowerMac. I get

Re: Sven Luther

2007-07-22 Thread Rick Thomas
Sven could be a useful participant in future powerpc support, if allowed, as he has in the past. I am not a Debian Developer, for lack of time to devote to the project, but I am very concerned about the deterioration in powerpc support. Allowing Sven to participate would be a step toward

Re: Sven Luther

2007-07-23 Thread Rick Thomas
On Jul 22, 2007, at 5:44 AM, Robert Millan wrote: The listmasters required that some discussion be held, and once finished they be pointed at it, so they can decide wether to lift it or not. Robert, I think you can report to the listmasters that a discussion has been held, and the opin

Re: brutal shutdown

2007-08-15 Thread Rick Thomas
On Aug 15, 2007, at 5:49 AM, Paul van Tilburg wrote: On Tue, Aug 14, 2007 at 11:26:21PM +0200, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: since some days (don't know exactly when, but some days ago, and it keeps increasing), my powerbook (g4/15" 5,6) stops suddenly. Brutal shutdown without anything written in t

Re: beige g3 etch install

2007-11-17 Thread Rick Thomas
Comments bottom posted... On Nov 15, 2007, at 10:24 AM, Nicholas Helps wrote: Hello all, I have been working with Debian for quite a few years now and using powermac G3 machines with extra network cards in them as routers and firewalls, etc. These machines were set up back in the days of

Re: PowerMac 9500 + etch = no boot to hard drive

2007-12-14 Thread Rick Thomas
On Dec 14, 2007, at 11:20 PM, Peter Rooney wrote: Dear James, Ah, BootX. This sounds creepily familiar. My guess on where to start is asking if the kernel the installer _used_ is the same as the one that got _installed_? (this first bit me in Debian woody). The kernel that BootX uses i

Re: PowerMac 9500 + etch = no boot to hard drive (now post boot glitches)

2007-12-16 Thread Rick Thomas
Try this as root: dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg Rick On Dec 16, 2007, at 2:32 AM, james cox wrote: Well, guys, thank you for the help, i got it to boot. Now I need to figure out how to start the KDE configuration manager program to tell KDE that i replaced the ix micro twin turbo

Bug#463765: debian-installer: Installer offers to install "grub" bootloader on PowerPC. Why?

2008-02-02 Thread Rick Thomas
Package: debian-installer Severity: normal Using this "businesscard" install disk: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/sid_d-i/arch-latest/powerpc/iso-cd/ Daily build #2 for powerpc, using installer build from sid These images will install the testing version of Debian, currently Len

Re: Bug#463765: debian-installer: Installer offers to install "grub" bootloader on PowerPC. Why?

2008-02-02 Thread Rick Thomas
On Feb 2, 2008, at 11:39 PM, Nick Schmalenberger wrote: Grub does exist for powerpc, grub2 http://packages.qa.debian.org/g/grub2.html but as that page says it has an unsatisfiable dependency right now for powerpc so its broken. Has there been any progress on this since: http://lists.debian.o

Re: Not building for powerpc any more

2008-04-14 Thread Rick Thomas
Don't panic! I believe this is about a program called "xaralx". The clue is in the bug report This is still referenced in the first member of this thread to appear in debian-powerpc, but has somehow been dropped from followups.

Re: Not building for powerpc any more

2008-04-15 Thread Rick Thomas
Sven Luther wrote: Notice that the description speaks about a "mature" system, i don't think that something so endian-buggy that it won't build on powerpc, and probably not also on the other bigendian arches, should use the term "mature" in its description. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EM

Re: Bug#487906: Lenny Beta2 on PowerPC - strange video mode after reboot

2008-06-26 Thread Rick Thomas
Rick Thomas wrote: Subject: Bug#487906: Lenny Beta2 on PowerPC - strange video mode after reboot :00:10.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage 128 PF/PRO AGP 4x TMDS (prog-if 00 [VGA]) Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr

Re: Questions for architecture requalification.

2008-07-20 Thread Rick Thomas
On Jul 20, 2008, at 11:13 PM, Charles Plessy wrote: Users: is there a proeminent website, or an organisation that uses the Debian powerPC port? How many users and machines does it represent? I wouldn't say it was "prominent", but all 7 of the Linux machines in my house are Macs running Debi

Re: G3 Beige Tower install help

2008-09-03 Thread Rick Thomas
Stephen, I used to do quite a lot of this kind of stuff. Search the debian-powerpc and debian-boot archives for my name ("rbthomas") and "Boot-X". I posted (about Sarge timeframe) several "how-to" articles on using MacOS-9 and Boot-X to install Debian on a beige-G3-tower. It does not req

Re: G3 Beige Tower install help

2008-09-03 Thread Rick Thomas
On Sep 3, 2008, at 10:32 PM, Stephen Allen wrote: Thanks Rick, I'll take a look. It is indeed somewhat fun. My wife thinks I'm nuts, but I agree -- it's fun getting old obscure hardware to do new tricks! Rick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe".

Re: G3 Beige Tower install help

2008-09-07 Thread Rick Thomas
Stephen, You are so close, I can almost taste it all the way up here in New Jersey! It's too late tonite, but Monday or Tuesday, unless you succeed before then, I'll put a spare disk in one of my Beige G3s and walk myself thru the steps, writing down each step as I do it. If that doesn

Re: G3 Beige Tower install with BootX - help

2008-09-08 Thread Rick Thomas
I know it's considered impolite on this list to top-post, but Nicholas' post is long and so close to perfect that it's worth leaving un-disturbed. I have only one thing to add to it: Long ago when I was doing this frequently to test the (then very new) Sarge installer, by doing an "expert"

Re: G3 Beige Tower install with BootX - help

2008-09-08 Thread Rick Thomas
On Sep 8, 2008, at 1:05 PM, Stephen Allen wrote: Long ago when I was doing this frequently to test the (then very new) Sarge installer, by doing an "expert" mode install (setting "DEBCONF_PRIORITY=low" as Nicholas recommends), you could skip over the attempt to install quik by going to a st

Re: G3 Beige Tower install with BootX - help

2008-09-08 Thread Rick Thomas
On Sep 8, 2008, at 1:41 PM, Amit Uttamchandani wrote: I'm missing something; How does one invoke 'expert' mode in the installer ? If I'm not mistaken, you simply type 'expert' in the 'boot:' prompt instead of hitting return or typing install. Amit This is how it's done in a "New Wo

Re: G3 Beige Tower install help

2008-09-08 Thread Rick Thomas
On Sep 8, 2008, at 6:38 PM, Stephen Allen wrote: Nicolas, do you mind if I add these instructions to the Debian Wiki ? I'll be sure to give full attribution. Congratulation on getting it working! That's great news. I have a couple of things to add to Nicholas' SxS that will help first-

Re: G3 Beige Tower install help

2008-09-08 Thread Rick Thomas
On Sep 8, 2008, at 9:32 PM, Stephen Allen wrote: I thought getting XOrg running would be tricky (don't have much experience with window managers as I usually run headless with a console) but it was pretty easy to get it configured. I just had to run 'dpkg-reconfigure Xorg' make some altera

Re: G3 Beige Tower install with BootX - help

2008-09-09 Thread Rick Thomas
Hello all, I have been working with Debian for quite a few years now and using powermac G3 machines with extra network cards in them as routers and firewalls, etc. These machines were set up back in the days of Woody and have been kept uptodate with security updates, but otherwise pretty

Re: G3 Beige Tower install help

2008-09-09 Thread Rick Thomas
On Sep 9, 2008, at 7:30 AM, Stephen Allen wrote: On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 09:17:55AM +0100, Nicholas Helps wrote: Hello Stephen (and everyone else), Howdy Nicholas, Being polite this time ;-) Glad the step by step worked. Please make sure you acknowledge Rick as well, without this help,

updated initramfs-tools now kernel oops during boot sequence

2008-09-17 Thread Rick Thomas
Anybody else seeing this? It's Bug#499231 in the BTS. The attachments (syslog and dpkg.log) are in the official bugreport. I left them off here to save bandwidth. Any help will be appreciated. Rick Package: initramfs-tools Version: 0.92k Severity: critical Justification: breaks the whole

Re: Bug#499231: updated initramfs-tools now kernel oops during boot sequence

2008-09-17 Thread Rick Thomas
On Sep 17, 2008, at 4:02 AM, Rick Thomas wrote: I have another system running Sid. I haven't done a dist-upgrade on it yet. So I'll see what happens there. I did the dist-upgrade on my other G4 running Sid, and the oops doesn't happen. Looking at the syslog extracts

Re: Bug#499231: updated initramfs-tools now kernel oops during boot sequence - sorta fixed?

2008-09-17 Thread Rick Thomas
Well... I did another dist-upgrade tonite, and the problem went away. Go figure... Some one of the following list of upgrades (extracted from /var/log/ dpkg.log) fixed it. 2008-09-17 22:57:17 upgrade ncurses-bin 5.6+20080907-1 5.6+20080913-1 2008-09-17 22:57:23 upgrade libncurses5 5.6+200

Re: Bug#499231: updated initramfs-tools now kernel oops during boot sequence - sorta fixed?

2008-09-18 Thread Rick Thomas
On Sep 18, 2008, at 3:55 AM, maximilian attems wrote: On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 11:54:01PM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: Well... I did another dist-upgrade tonite, and the problem went away. Go figure... Some one of the following list of upgrades (extracted from /var/log/ dpkg.log) fixed it

aptitude safe-upgrade says libgnomekbd-common is being kept back on sid powerpc systems

2008-12-02 Thread Rick Thomas
When I do "aptitude safe-upgrade" on my sid powerpc systems, it says that libgnomekbd-common is being kept back. This has been going on for a week or more. It doesn't do that on my sid i386 systems. It doesn't seem to be hurting anything... Anybody got an idea why? Rick -- To UNSUBSC

Re: aptitude safe-upgrade says libgnomekbd-common is being kept back on sid powerpc systems

2008-12-02 Thread Rick Thomas
On Dec 2, 2008, at 3:28 PM, Rick Thomas wrote: When I do "aptitude safe-upgrade" on my sid powerpc systems, it says that libgnomekbd-common is being kept back. This has been going on for a week or more. It doesn't do that on my sid i386 systems. It doesn't seem to

xorg: Macintosh Blue&White G3 w/ ATI 3D Rage Pro - monitor complains "out of range"

2009-01-19 Thread Rick Thomas
Package: xorg Version: 1:7.3+18 Severity: important I recently installed Lenny on a Mac Blue&White with an ATI 3D Rage Pro video card. When X starts up the monitor displays a message "out of range" indicating that the computer is feeding it stuff it can't handle. (This message is coming

Re: Bug#520711: installation-reports: The squeeze netinst doesn't find archive

2009-03-24 Thread Rick Thomas
I just tried the PowerPC squeeze businesscard install disk, with the same results. The CD was downloaded from the URL: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/testing/arch-latest/powerpc/iso-cd/ The boilerplate on that directory says: Daily build #3 for powerpc, using instal

Re: Bug#520711: installation-reports: The squeeze netinst doesn't find archive

2009-03-24 Thread Rick Thomas
On Mar 24, 2009, at 10:09 PM, Otavio Salvador wrote: On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 6:02 PM, Rick Thomas wrote: When I switch to the -F2 console and try to do a "wget", I get a segmentation fault. Please take a look on the syslog of the installer and if possible attach it to this

Re: Bug#520711: installation-reports: The squeeze netinst doesn't find archive

2009-03-25 Thread Rick Thomas
On Mar 25, 2009, at 7:37 AM, Otavio Salvador wrote: On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 3:09 AM, Christian Perrier wrote: Quoting Otavio Salvador (ota...@ossystems.com.br): On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 6:02 PM, Rick Thomas wrote: When I switch to the -F2 console and try to do a "wget",

Re: Bug#520711: installation-reports: The squeeze netinst doesn't find archive

2009-03-26 Thread Rick Thomas
the squeeze d-i initrd. What does that tell us about which package the bug belongs to? Thanks! Rick On Mar 26, 2009, at 2:34 AM, Christian Perrier wrote: Quoting Rick Thomas (rbthoma...@pobox.com): 2) Since this bug renders the install CDs (certainly "buisnesscard", and for most

Upgrade to Sid from Squeeze not happy...

2009-04-05 Thread Rick Thomas
Hi! I'm trying to take one of my G4 Macs from Squeeze to Sid, so I can investigate the reported problems with the 2.6.29 kernel in Sid on PowerPC. I get the following diagnostic from "aptitude update; aptitude safe- upgrade": The following packages have been kept back: gnumeric-common

Re: Question about the usability of a PS3 with Linux

2009-04-26 Thread Rick Thomas
Take a look at Yellow Dog Linux: http://www.yellowdoglinux.com/ They specialize in Linux for the Cell processor. It's not Debian, but they do have some good tools for doing serious development on and for the Cell. Rick On Apr 26, 2009, at 4:56 AM, Rogério Brito wrote: Hi, Geert.

Sound not working on PowerPC Macs?

2009-05-24 Thread Rick Thomas
Anybody know the necessary mojo to make sound work on newworld powerPC Macs? Thanks! Rick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-powerpc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

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