G5 compilation speed vs G4

2020-12-30 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, now that the iMac G5 is up and running, I did run the same build task as on my iBook G4 and PowerBook G4, where I already found some differences in speed, given a similar CPU and setup - We attribtuted them to the quite much faster disk in the iBook. Now comes the G5 (PPC970fx) which run

Re: iMac G5 "windfarm"

2020-12-30 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi Mathieu, On 12/30/20 10:22 AM, Mathieu Malaterre wrote: There was a regression at some point, did you check: *https://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc/2020/03/msg00035.html What's your kernel version ? Right now, it apparently is an older version: Linux PPC970FX 4.16.0-1-powerpc64 #1 SM

firmware - nonfree repository

2020-12-30 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, I just noticed I have this issue seen in dmesg: [   21.449826] radeon :04:00.0: firmware: failed to load radeon/R300_cp.bin (-2) [   21.449835] radeon :04:00.0: Direct firmware load for radeon/R300_cp.bin failed with error -2 [   21.450016] [drm:.r100_cp_init [radeon]] *ERROR* Fa

Re: firmware - nonfree repository

2020-12-31 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi Adrian! On 12/31/20 12:31 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: Right now, I have configured what Adrian suggested in a mail a couple of months ago: You need to add this line: deb [arch=all]http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ unstable contrib non-free thank you for the prompt response! That w

Re: iMac G5 "windfarm"

2020-12-31 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hey Rick! On 12/31/20 4:36 AM, Rick Thomas wrote: You have vmlinux -> vmlinux-5.9.0-5-powerpc64 But there is no actual file named "vmlinux-5.9.0-5-powerpc64" in the directory. Maybe that's your problem? keen eyes, you spotted it! very strange to happen, the file mas missing. I reinstal

Re: iMac G5 "windfarm"

2021-01-09 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: Once Linux is fully installed, the system runs quiet when doing nothing (console prompt) and remains quiet when doing several things (also unexpected ones). There were multiple bugs in the windfarm drivers in the upstream kernel such as [1], make sure you

Success report G3 & G4 update

2021-01-26 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi all! we all report issues and I myself seem to report only problems (like the inability to use GRUB on an iMac) and install issues. But let's see the bright things! However I did an upgrade run on the said iMac G5.. but also on my PowerBook G4 and my vintage iBook G3 clamshell... and everythin

enabling/disabling AltiVec in Firefox and derived browsers (ArcticFox)

2021-02-28 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hello, I was checkin gout a specific patch Adrian made for Firefox, which should help building on non-Altivec capable CPUs. https://github.com/mozilla/gecko-dev/commit/c6b39f0f902898988ca7793af56307640ff81362 I have imported it in ArcticFox with this commit and tested it. https://github.com/rm

Re: enabling/disabling AltiVec in Firefox and derived browsers (ArcticFox)

2021-03-02 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, Riccardo Mottola wrote: > > This causes a big issue if you want to compile a non-Altivec build on > a capable processor like the G4: it will automatically enabled even if > you don't want. > E.g. if I want to build on a G4 a binary working on the G3, I can't. I >

Re: enabling/disabling AltiVec in Firefox and derived browsers (ArcticFox)

2021-03-02 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi Gabriel, Gabriel Paubert wrote: > This is going to be hopelessly slow. The point of SIMD is to process > quickly vast amounts of data, the overhead of every single emulated > instructions is counted in hundreds of cycles. > > IMHO, the only solution is to: > a) only use SIMD in library code >

Re: enabling/disabling AltiVec in Firefox and derived browsers (ArcticFox)

2021-03-02 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi Luke, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > > 1.5 and 1.9 never had SIMD / VMX / VSX so there shouldn't be a problem > (for G5). > > which, coming back to the original question, i'm not seeing a reason > why disabling altivec should not compile. > > unless, of course, there have been assumptio

Re: iMac G3 r128 - failed to load module "r128"

2021-03-03 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi! John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > Good news on this issue: Adrian Bunk has kindly stepped up and is working on > re-adding > the legacy driver packages to the Debian archive [1]. So users will be able > to use > X on the affected machines in the near future again. Good news then! > If a

Re: Donations

2021-03-06 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: Since original discussion evolved around the G3 beige model, I would prefer if the community found a cheap G3 beige model to work on for me. Also, the G3 beige tower takes less space as compared to the iMac. Would a 9600 "last model" be of interest? It

Re: enabling/disabling AltiVec in Firefox and derived browsers (ArcticFox)

2021-03-06 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi Luke, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: just to confirm: that's definitely "setting machine to capabilities that the machine doesn't have, then requesting that feature and gcc 10 says 'ok'" yes? i do not know the exact machine, let us assume it is -mg3. the options being passed are "

VLC on G5 crash : illegal instruction

2021-03-06 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, I just tried VLC on a G5... it starts but as soon as I try to open a file, it dies "inside" the file selector! Not just a file, trying to click on my home directory, I get illegal instruction.ù If I give it a MP4 on the command line, it will come up and then die with illegal instruction.

Re: VLC on G5 crash : illegal instruction

2021-03-07 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi Adrian! On 2021-03-06 15:22:02 +0100 John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: Please install the dbgsym/dbg package for VLC and ffmpeg and provide a backtrace. Most likely someone added VSX support to either of them without guarding the code with #ifdefs. the issue is most probably in li

Re: VLC on G5 crash : illegal instruction

2021-03-14 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, On 3/8/21 9:49 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: We certainly shouldn't disable the whole JIT over a single instruction but rather check whether this instruction can be guarded on older POWER systems. But we need to find out first which instruction triggers the SIGILL. Indeed, it cras

Re: Update on Rage 128 support?

2021-04-18 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, On 4/15/21 5:53 PM, Alex McKeever wrote: As in, are the drivers actually working now? The last time we discussed this, someone built it and it didn’t seem to work. This effects all Linux distributions, including Adelie, which is a new distribution that uses an APK package format (not Andr

Re: Some questions, plus hfsprogs is missing

2021-04-27 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hello James, On 25/04/2021 18:01, James Madgwick wrote: On Sun, 25 Apr 2021 11:17:28 +0200 Johannes Brakensiek wrote: Thanks. I've set up up that repository and I'm now happily using ArcticFox. As an aside, I had also tried Konqueror - it has the same problem as firefox. Epiphany did work but

Re: Bug#741663: linux-image-3.13-1-powerpc-smp: therm_windtunnel does not load correctly

2021-05-09 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi Adrian, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: Yes and no. I am quite optimistic the bug was fixed with a patch which is included upstream since 4.19-rc1. It still needs confirmation, though, i.e. testing. The PowerMac G5 users on this list are kindly asked to confirm the bug has been fixed. Until

Re: OT: Huge Right to Repair Win for Consumers

2021-06-30 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, Stan Johnson wrote: > Here's a more recent example: I've been trying to figure out how to > install a more modern Linux kernel on a PowerMac 6100. More than 20 > years ago, Apple teamed up with the now-defunct OSF to use the Mach 3.0 > microkernel along with Apple's customized version of a 2

Re: Altivec in baseline for ppc64?

2021-07-18 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: It depends on the workload, of course. Anything that does SIMD like matrix multiplications in multimedia or scientific computing will, of course, profit from enabling AltiVec. No one claimed that AltiVec, MMX or SSE will just improve everything. Exactly,

X11 displays fonts badly / crashes in iBook

2013-11-27 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, my X crashes when certain programs are run, it started happening some weeks ago after I updated. I noticed the following behaviour 1) X11 comes up and looks fine. 2) Windowmaker shows fonts with artefacts in the menus, window titles, etc 3) all "classic" X11 apps (xterm, xeyes, oclock, xca

Re: X11 displays fonts badly / crashes in iBook

2013-11-28 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, On 11/28/13 02:16, Michel Dänzer wrote: On Mit, 2013-11-27 at 13:02 +0100, Riccardo Mottola wrote: Hi, my X crashes when certain programs are run, it started happening some weeks ago after I updated. It's a mach64 driver bug, fixed upstream by http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/d

Re: Wrong colors with Mesa 9.2 and Mesa 10.0 on Debian Sid

2013-12-30 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, Christian Zigotzky wrote: Hi all, I've tried Mesa 9.2.2-1 and 10.0.0-1 on Debian Sid and Lubuntu 13.10. Unfortunately both have issued false colors in games. They appear to be ABGR instead of RGBA, thus blue becomes green, red becomes alpha etc. With current Debian unstable, I have such a pr

Re: Creating a PowerPC task force?

2014-01-14 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, Rick Thomas wrote: Hi All! Did anything ever come of this? What can we do to make it happen? now that the holidays are over and we each have a little more free time… Rick I missed that message! I love PPC and I am still very sad it is getting, along with MIPS; a second-level platform w

Re: Wrong colors with Mesa 9.2 and Mesa 10.0 on Debian Sid

2014-01-15 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, Michel Dänzer wrote: On Mon, 2013-12-30 at 13:20 +0100, Riccardo Mottola wrote: Hi, Christian Zigotzky wrote: Hi all, I've tried Mesa 9.2.2-1 and 10.0.0-1 on Debian Sid and Lubuntu 13.10. Unfortunately both have issued false colors in games. They appear to be ABGR instead of RGBA,

Mac64 - wrong colors and other problems

2014-01-23 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, I am still trying to get a "useful" X11 on my iBook, that is, something where programs do not rash and display decent colors. WE know tat with the current driver all cairo-related apps will crash, so let's limit to others right now. I am investigating windowmaker + xterm and GNUstep apps

Re: Mac64 - wrong colors and other problems

2014-01-27 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, Michel Dänzer wrote: The mach64 DRM driver never made it into the mainline kernel, so I'm afraid getting DRI working is hopeless (unless you want to revive the mach64 DRM driver and get it merged:). does it mean that the driver exist but will never be part of the kernel, and thus not availa

Re: X11 displays fonts badly / crashes in iBook

2014-04-08 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi Michel, Michel Dänzer wrote: On Don, 2013-11-28 at 20:42 +0100, Riccardo Mottola wrote: On 11/28/13 02:16, Michel Dänzer wrote: On Mit, 2013-11-27 at 13:02 +0100, Riccardo Mottola wrote: Hi, my X crashes when certain programs are run, it started happening some weeks ago after I updated

Re: X11 displays fonts badly / crashes in iBook

2014-04-28 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, Michel Dänzer wrote: Meanwhile, it shouldn't be very hard to build a local package with the fix applied. People on this list should be able to help you with that. I'd like instructions for that then! I hope it can be done with the very limited disk space I have left on the ol' iBook, that i

Re: X11 displays fonts badly / crashes in iBook

2014-05-27 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, Michel Dänzer wrote: Meanwhile, it shouldn't be very hard to build a local package with the fix applied. People on this list should be able to help you with that. may I ping this request again? I ask for help builging a local package of xf86-video-mach64 including the http://cgit.freedesk

Re: X11 displays fonts badly / crashes in iBook

2014-06-02 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, nobody? is this list so dead? R On 2014-05-28 08:52:26 +0200 Riccardo Mottola wrote: > Hi, > > Michel Dänzer wrote: >> Meanwhile, it shouldn't be very hard to build a local package with the >> fix applied. People on this list should be able to help you wi

Re: X11 displays fonts badly / crashes in iBook

2014-06-05 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, Risto Suominen wrote: Hi Riccardo, I've applied similar patches with a recipe resembling the following: - create a file with the patch: mach64.patch - install dpkg-dev: apt-get install dpkg-dev - get and extract the package source: apt-get source xf86-video-mach64 - cd into the directory -

xorg / ati / artefacts in character display

2014-06-06 Thread Riccardo Mottola
HI, now that with the patched video driver I can run more application, I have this problem (which I had with the old video driver too, but now I can check many more app). Still on my iBook G3 with ATI video card. WindowMaker, Emacs, all gnustep apps show the text "slightly" garbled, as with

iceape, wterm obsolete packages?

2014-06-06 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, I noticed that the packages Iceape, wterm are now in the obsolete group in aptitude. Why? does debian stopped support them? or is it a PPC specific problem? While I can live without wterm, I cannot without iceape... I just find its interface superior to Firefox. I run Seamonkey on all my

Re: xorg / ati / artefacts in character display

2014-06-13 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, Michel Dänzer wrote: On 10.06.2014 17:40, Riccardo Mottola wrote: I was able to make a screenshot of that, trying to attach it. Still looks pretty unusable :( Most likely another mach64 driver bug. You can file a bug at https://bugs.freedesktop.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=xorg , component

Re: xorg / ati / artefacts in character display

2014-06-18 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, Michel Dänzer wrote: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=xorg , component >> Driver/mach64. But AFAIK nobody's actively working on that driver >> anymore, so for the time being you probably need to work around it by >> disabling RENDER acceleration with this option in the

Re: apt-cdrom-install not found (?)

2014-10-27 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, Athanasios Anastasiou wrote: I am trying to install the Ubuntu server edition on an iMac G3 power pc (192MB of RAM, 400MHz CPU). All I need is a very basic text based linux system on that machine. Install debian I never used Ubuntu and I know hat hacks it does on the Debian Basis. I in

Re: 3D acceleration for Radeon 9600 Pro chip on PowerBook G4

2014-11-30 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi Herminio, Herminio Hernandez, Jr. wrote: This what I have done so far and I plan to do : 1. I have downloaded the source code for libgl1-mesa-dri now the version I have is 10.3.2 in the threads it look like this patch was applied to 10.1.1 will that be an issue? 2. I have not done a patc

Re: 3D acceleration for Radeon 9600 Pro chip on PowerBook G4

2014-11-30 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, Herminio Hernandez Jr. wrote: Do I create the patch file from the two existing .diff files I have? Sent from my iPhone each diff, a patch... in case then apply several patches in sequence. You can't merge them by hand. Riccardo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-powerpc-requ...@lists.d

Re: Configure power button to shutdown

2015-01-06 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, JB~ wrote: "you can map the On/off button it has already functions like sleep/awake, but no[t] on older machines [like the G4].. " So he thinks it's not possible; I would add that if it were, by chance, you could trigger this within deep functionality of open firmware or the boot- loaders I

X11 windows redraw problems ATI

2015-03-21 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, I upgraded Debian to current unstable on my iBook. X11 apparently got a bit worse again, whole windows do not redraw correctly but get random content and need to be minimized/reopened to get a refresh, when covered damaged sections contain garbage... Not all apps, e.g. xterm seems to work,

Re: X11 windows redraw problems ATI

2015-03-24 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, Riccardo Mottola wrote: X11 apparently got a bit worse again, whole windows do not redraw correctly but get random content and need to be minimized/reopened to get a refresh, when covered damaged sections contain garbage... Not all apps, e.g. xterm seems to work, but all GNUstep

Re: Mac/PMU Gnome 3 Battery Applet

2015-04-05 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, On 04/05/15 01:15, Bill Chatfield wrote: I have written a battery applet for Gnome 3 that reads the battery status from /proc/pmu. https://github.com/gungwald/mac-battery-applet Currently the install is done with "make install". I don't yet have the knowledge to build a Debian package an

Xorg server

2015-12-22 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, I have seen with regret that debian moved to some X needing systemd and a kernel driver. After my update, I don't get X starting anymore on my iBook with ATI video. Do we need to use the legacy server now? Riccardo

Re: Xorg server

2015-12-22 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, Herminio Hernandez Jr. ha scritto: Are you running Sid? yes, I do. I just installed legacy server and now I have X again. I really dislike certain choices debian and more generally most Linux distros are taking... Riccardo

Re: Xorg server

2015-12-22 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Herminio Hernandez, Jr. ha scritto: what is your video card? I am running Debian Sid on my IBook G4 and just did a dist-upgrade and am not seeing this issue. ATI 3d Rage Mobility L (Mach64 card) Riccardo

Re: Powermac G5 - flash

2016-02-13 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, On 02/12/16 12:52, Richard Kuenz wrote: HTML5 is very bothering i think because it consumes a lot of energy. I found out that too HTML5 playback is almost unusable even on the fastest 1.6GHz G4 under mac where Graphics is already better than linux (TenFourFox) and also on a dual-core I

Re: apm_emu module missing

2024-10-18 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi Ed, Ed Robbins wrote: I believe that the apm_emu module is required for battery indicator/monitoring on certain powerbooks? It seems to be missing on latest kernels (6.3, 6.11). Can it be enabled for our config? Or, is there an alternative way to enable battery indicators? GNUstep battery

Re: apm_emu module missing

2024-10-18 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, Ed Robbins wrote: However if the apm_emu module would be useful for other desktop environments I can submit a patch to add it to the default debian powerpc kernel config as suggested by Adrian? It appears the GNUstep battery monitor does support APM. GNUstep Battery Monitor supports both A

Re: What are the current available browser options for debian-ppc64?

2024-11-19 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: [1]https://github.com/oracle/solaris-userland/tree/master/components/desktop/firefox/patches interesting set... I recognize one: https://github.com/oracle/solaris-userland/blob/master/components/desktop/firefox/patches/firefox-53-sparc-gfx-atomicops.patch

Re: What are the current available browser options for debian-ppc64?

2024-11-19 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, Jan Montag wrote: since I just bought a Powermac G5 (powermac11.2) Dual 2 GHz, I'm running Debian 12 SID on it. I also keep trying to compile or install a current browser. Unfortunately this doesn't work for reasons I don't understand. How has this progressed? The current version of Firefox

Re: Firefox 52esr on PPC32 is outdated

2024-11-14 Thread Riccardo Mottola
2024 15:00, Leo Historias <mailto:leohistoriasanima...@gmail.com>> escreveu: I mean to John. so On Fri, Oct 4, 2024 at 4:20 AM Riccardo Mottola mailto:riccardo.mott...@libero.it>> wrote: Leo Historias wrote: > The port of Firefox 115esr t

Re: Fwd: Firefox 52esr on PPC32 is outdated

2024-12-16 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi #330250 _:) About Firefox I can only say that I feel the same thing as you describe, Adrian, when you say that the current version isn't really usable on a single-core system such as a G4. Even on a Dual-G4 or a Dual-G5, TenFourFox for Mac OS X was very VERY slow... The latest versions of Fir

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