Re: Performance difference 32bit/64bit userland

On Tue, Feb 07, 2017 at 10:05:38PM +0200, Gatis Visnevskis wrote: > Well explained! > > In enterprise world, Java applications will benefit from 64-bit addressing. > Another example is Oracle, 32-bit server side is dropped while ago. So it > also make sense to compile all Oracle client linked apps

Re: Performance difference 32bit/64bit userland

On Tue, Feb 07, 2017 at 09:39:21PM +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > Yes, but lots of platforms fully migrate to 64-bit userland these days. Like > PowerPC, SPARC used to be 32-bit userland on a 64-bit kernel. However, Oracle > is shifting Linux for SPARC to 64-bit these days. I think even

Re: Performance difference 32bit/64bit userland

On Wed, Feb 08, 2017 at 11:21:00AM -0200, Breno Leitao wrote: > On 02/07/2017 07:22 PM, Lennart Sorensen wrote: > > ppc64el is different since it is targeting systems where the applications > > are expected to need a lot of ram, and switching the little endian > > improves per

Re: Performance difference 32bit/64bit userland

On Wed, Feb 08, 2017 at 03:08:41PM +0100, Mathieu Malaterre wrote: > I always assumed it was possible to run ppc32 (be) or ppc64 (be) > userlands on a ppc64el system. Is this a restriction at Linux level or > hardware level ? I thought at least KVM virtual machines it was possible to do. Not sure

Re: yaboot problem? OS won't load after install on a Power Mac G5

On Wed, Feb 08, 2017 at 07:06:30PM +0200, ilko Iliev wrote: > Hi Christoph, > > Indeed, these files seem to exist http://i.imgur.com/uAPd5sL.jpg > > As to the question regarding the FS type for /boot I'm not really sure, it's > whatever comes with this setup http://i.imgur.com/fPYDHbI.jpg > but

Re: Firefox 51.0.1-1 on Debian Sid/experimental PowerPC (PPC32): Segmentation fault

On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 10:44:57PM +0200, Konstantinos Margaritis wrote: > As with all new languages it will take time, but eventually it will get > there, with a big IF. The biggest(only?) problem with PowerPC in > general right now is hardware availability not lack of interested > developers. Dev

Re: Firefox 51.0.1-1 on Debian Sid/experimental PowerPC (PPC32): Segmentation fault

On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 04:44:22PM -0500, wrote: > Well there does exist cheaper options, like the $4k T4240QDS-PB, which > is 12 core (24 threads) 1.8Ghz 64 bit powerpc. > > The P5040RDB is $3k for a quad core 64 bit powerpc. > > That's still not hobby level pricing though. Better than the pri

Re: yaboot problem? OS won't load after install on a Power Mac G5

On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 09:57:06PM +0200, ilko Iliev wrote: > Hi Len, > > Thanks for the suggestion but alas that didn't work either, same thing > happens. So you tried this? #1 32.2 kB Apple #2 1.0 MB B K boot untitled #3 1.0 GB f ext2 untitled /boot #4 316 GB f ext4 untitled /

Re: Newbie trying to install Debian PPC into an old 15" PowerBook G4...

On Thu, Mar 02, 2017 at 12:05:20AM -0800, Ant wrote: > According to > https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/powerpc/ch03s05.html.en and > https://wiki.debian.org/PowerPC/FAQ#How_do_I_partition_my_hard_drive.3F > web pages, I can't resize my HDD's current default HFS drive into two > partitions

Re: Newbie trying to install Debian PPC into an old 15" PowerBook G4...

On Thu, Mar 02, 2017 at 07:30:34AM -0800, PhiLLip Pi wrote: > On Thu, Mar 02, 2017 at 10:28:48AM -0500, Lennart Sorensen wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 02, 2017 at 12:05:20AM -0800, Ant wrote: > > > According to > > > https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/powerpc/ch03s

Re: Fwd: Re: Newbie trying to install Debian PPC into an old 15" PowerBook G4...

On Fri, Mar 03, 2017 at 06:54:23AM -0800, PhiLLip Pi wrote: > I downloaded, burned, and booted > http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/precise/release/ubuntu-12.04-desktop-powerpc.iso > > since I didn't have a blank DVD to use for the bigger and newer > http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/t

Re: Fwd: Re: Newbie trying to install Debian PPC into an old 15" PowerBook G4...

On Fri, Mar 03, 2017 at 07:38:47PM -0800, PhiLLip Pi wrote: > On Fri, Mar 03, 2017 at 11:07:23AM -0500, Lennart Sorensen wrote: > > > > I downloaded, burned, and booted > > > http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/precise/release/ubuntu-12.04-desktop-powerpc.iso > > &

Re: Newbie trying to install Debian PPC into an old 15" PowerBook G4...

On Sun, Mar 05, 2017 at 11:37:36PM -0800, PhiLLip Pi wrote: > Hmm, I must be blind. I can't seem to find any X11, XFree86, Xwhatever, > etc. packages for GUI stuff. Also, is this net installer really limited > compared to regular Debian installer for 64-bit non-Mac PCs? Am I > expecting too much

Re: Is it possible to use a 2002 (Titanium) 15" PowerBook G4's wifi with WPA2, PSK, AES, etc.?

On Tue, Mar 07, 2017 at 02:32:55AM -0800, PhiLLip Pi wrote: > I know Mac OS Xes can't, but I wonder if this is the same issue with > Debian/Linux. Do you know which wifi chip it has? As far as I can tell from some searching, it is probably a broadcom 43xx chip. If it is, then there is some hope

Re: Is it possible to use a 2002 (Titanium) 15" PowerBook G4's wifi with WPA2, PSK, AES, etc.?

On Tue, Mar 07, 2017 at 10:46:16AM -0800, PhiLLip Pi wrote: > Here is what I know based on my new Debian PPC v8's installation: > dmesg (full log in http://pastebin.ca/3777025 ): > $ dmesg |grep airport > [ 11.706958] airport 0.15 (Benjamin Herrenschmidt > ) > [ 11.707033] airport: Physical ad

Re: What are the fastest Mozilla's Gecko-based web browsers for PowerBook G4?

On Tue, Mar 07, 2017 at 11:01:04PM -0800, PhiLLip Pi wrote: > In my couple days old Debian Jessie/stable PowerPC on a very old 2002 > 15" Titanium PowerBook G4 with 512 MB of RAM, it came with Firefox v45.7 > ESR but it is very slow and uses too much memories. > > I wonder if there are faster Ge

Re: Problems installing Debian on Powerbooks

On Wed, Mar 08, 2017 at 09:38:36AM +0100, Elimar Riesebieter wrote: > * Nicholas Dal Porto [2017-03-07 15:31 -0800]: > > > Here's a photo of the pertinent section: http://i.imgur.com/hHZyDfg.jpg > > Want you run a raid6 on a Powerbook? Seems to be impossible! The kernel always prints that. Not

Re: Problems installing Debian on Powerbooks

On Wed, Mar 08, 2017 at 01:17:11PM +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > On Tue, Mar 07, 2017 at 03:31:15PM -0800, Nicholas Dal Porto wrote: > > Here's a photo of the pertinent section: http://i.imgur.com/hHZyDfg.jpg > > Various components and scripts load by the installer are crashing. This i

Re: Bug#857172: Please enable SSE2 on amd64 and disable altivec on PPC ports

On Wed, Mar 08, 2017 at 04:06:17PM +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > The firefox package is built with AltiVec enabled and so is mplayer, > for example. So, yes, Altivec is actively used and I would honestly > refrain from disabling it in a performance-sensitive package like > babl. > > Al

Re: Bug#857172: Please enable SSE2 on amd64 and disable altivec on PPC ports

On Wed, Mar 08, 2017 at 08:08:59PM +0100, Riccardo Mottola wrote: > Well, it is very sad we aren't release anymore, IMHO, although a fact. > Yet i think it is wrong raising the bar and excluding many CPUs just because > it makes things easier. > powerpc was (and probably still is) a quite popular d

Re: Problems installing Debian on Powerbooks

On Wed, Mar 08, 2017 at 10:28:57PM -0800, Nicholas Dal Porto wrote: > It was the RAM! Replaced it and it installed without a hitch. However, > Wireless isn't working. Anyone know a fix? Did you enable non-free and install the firmware-linux-nonfree package? Or perhaps a different nonfree firmwar

Re: Problems installing Debian on Powerbooks

On Thu, Mar 09, 2017 at 10:50:44AM -0800, Nicholas Dal Porto wrote: > I have the non-free package installed. > > Here's the output of lspci -vvv: http://pastebin.com/raw/aQSVwyUW > > I also have Network Manager installed. Anything I need to do there or with > any network config files? I think y

Re: debian-installer: virtio support for powerpc cdrom/netboot installs

On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 09:54:01AM +, Jonni O'Gorman wrote: > can you tell me how to unsubscribe from this list... https://lists.debian.org/ -- Len Sorensen

Re: POWER6 not seeing memory above 2Gb

On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 09:07:49PM -0400, Adam Stouffer wrote: > Hello all, I'm new to the list and just installed jessie on my IBM > 8203-E4A box. It's a dual core 4.2Ghz with 16Gb of memory. > > But anyhow like the subject says the kernel is only reporting 2Gb of > available memory. I tried appe

Re: POWER6 not seeing memory above 2Gb

On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 10:14:27AM -0400, Adam Stouffer wrote: > No LPAR or VM, running just "bare metal". I had AIX installed previously > and it recognized 16Gb. > > uname -a > Linux new-host-4 3.16.0-4-powerpc64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.39-1+deb8u2 > (2017-03-07) ppc64 GNU/Linux > > lscpu > Architec

Re: problems with wheezy and xbmc

On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 02:57:02PM +0100, Richard Kuenz wrote: > Hello , > > i have installed Debian Wheezy on my Powermac G5 Quad. > > > please help me to solve one problem i have with graphics. whether i use xbmc > or kodi or mpv for videoplayback, it always comes with rasterised graphics; > n

Re: problems with wheezy and xbmc

On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 04:48:27PM +0100, Richard Kuenz wrote: > Thank you very much, > > i would have installed now > > > vdpau-va-driver > > > > and output changes > > rich@debian:~$ xbmc > libva: VA-API version 0.32.0 > libva: va_getDriverName() returns 0 > libva: Trying to open /usr/lib/

Re: POWER6 not seeing memory above 2Gb

On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 11:45:10AM -0400, Adam Stouffer wrote: > On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 10:21 AM, Lennart Sorensen > wrote > > > > > > > > That ought to be working. I know the p520 I worked with before it > > worked fine. > > > > Which bootload

Re: POWER6 not seeing memory above 2Gb

On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 03:22:46PM -0400, Adam Stouffer wrote: > So I have grub2 booting the same kernel but again the same result. > Only 2Gb available. What was on this machine before? Is it possible that you are in fact running inside an existing LPAR config, which might have limited memory as

Re: 64 bit java?

On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 09:57:25AM -0400, Adam Stouffer wrote: > On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 3:04 AM, Christian Zigotzky > wrote: > > Have you already added [arch=powerpc] to the other deb lines? (not deb-src > > lines) > > > > -- Christian > > Yes, here is my sources.list > > # > > # deb cdrom:[D

Re: debian-installer now available in Ports

On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 08:30:42PM +0300, Risto Suominen wrote: > I still have a few powerpc Macs, both OldWorld and NewWorld. > > The oldest one (6100/66) has no Open Firmware, the next one (7600/132) > has OF 1.x, then comes Beige G3 with OF 2.x, and the first NewWorld > machine Blue&White G3 wi

Re: debian-installer now available in Ports

On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 11:05:10AM -0700, Herminio Hernandez Jr. wrote: > The problem is I do not think yaboot is maintained either. Well it does have the problem of being stuck with an old e2fs lib, which prevents using ext4 and maybe even some ext3 features on /boot. It does appear a bit bette

Re: Talos™ II Secure Workstation Pre-Order

On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 04:46:50PM +0200, Carlos wrote: > AFAIK, the US prices are always without taxes. > Don’t forget the import tax, you have to pay. For Germany 19%, if I’m right. > > You can try, to let send the POWER9 system from a private person to the EU. > But if this fails, you have to

Re: debian-installer: please default to grub-ieee1275 on powerpc instead of yaboot

On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 02:49:53PM +0200, Frank Scheiner wrote: > On 09/21/2017 02:21 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > > [...] > > What we need are people who are willing to extensively test d-i > > images with GRUB on powerpc and ppc64 and report back. > > I can offer to test with all sorts

Re: debian-installer: please default to grub-ieee1275 on powerpc instead of yaboot

On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 06:26:10PM +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > Ok, good to know. What about GPT partition tables? On ppc64el, i.e. POWER8 > and newer, the default labels are all GPT. Any idea which is the earliest > POWER5+ machine which supports GPT or should we just assume MS-DOS >

Re: debian-installer: please default to grub-ieee1275 on powerpc instead of yaboot

On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 10:37:43PM +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > I have one POWER7 machine that has been provided to me by IBM for testing > purposes and to host one of our buildds. I have performed a test installation > of openSUSE Tumbleweed on it. > > Here's the partitioning scheme

Re: debian-installer: please default to grub-ieee1275 on powerpc instead of yaboot

On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 11:49:38AM +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > I was just wondering whether it makes sense for GRUB to use MS-DOS partition > on a Mac, thinking it may be better than Mac partition tables, I was > basically just thinking aloud. If it's not necessary for GRUB to work >

Re: debian-installer: please default to grub-ieee1275 on powerpc instead of yaboot

On Sat, Sep 23, 2017 at 02:25:32PM +0200, Frank Scheiner wrote: > Do we have information about how it looks (e.g. is it Grub by default and > then, where is it installed?) for a POWER8 machine with Debian Stretch > (ppc64le) installed from an installer image? > > If also working for ppc64 and powe

Re: debian-installer: please default to grub-ieee1275 on powerpc instead of yaboot

On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 03:15:15PM +, luigi burdo wrote: > I had in past issue with grub on opensuse, i have a G5 970MP. > > Adrian make a great present to us, making us have again debian working on BE . > > please do not made again it not usable on our hardware choosing grub. I have had iss

Re: debian-installer: please default to grub-ieee1275 on powerpc instead of yaboot

On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 05:19:00PM +0200, Simon Richter wrote: > Quick question: what about directly booting a zImage from OpenFirmware, > is that still an option? Not sure. It makes it hard to pick which kernel to boot though, and hard to pass arguments to the kernel, and since we must use an in

Re: New ppc64 installer image available -- installation test report

On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 10:45:42PM -0700, Rick Thomas wrote: > I gave it a whirl. I used the same procedure as described in my previous > report. > > The differences I noticed were: > > When it got to partitioning I chose (as last time) “guided — use whole disk”. > It produced a partitioning th

Re: New discussion: ppc64 installer -- ext2 /boot partition to keep sabot happy.

On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 08:40:13PM +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > Ok, so I guess the first step would be to patch partman-auto to increase > the size of the bootloader partition for all sub-architectures. > > Question: Does GRUB work on all the PowerPC variants that Yaboot supports? We

Re: New discussion: ppc64 installer -- ext2 /boot partition to keep sabot happy.

On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 04:16:23PM -0400, Milan Kupcevic wrote: > Linux only oldworld Mac machines were using Quik. > > https://packages.debian.org/sid/quik > > Quik was not able to dual boot so if you had MacOS and linux the only > way to dual boot was to have the BootX (Penguin Icon) module ins

Re: Maturity of GRUB on powerpc/ppc64?

On Wed, Oct 04, 2017 at 03:25:20PM +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > On 10/04/2017 03:16 PM, Frank Scheiner wrote: > > Hey Adrian, you are really helpful! :-) > > So are all your tests. Your input is really appreciated, thank you! > > > I will check this out for the Power Macs and try to

Re: Maturity of GRUB on powerpc/ppc64?

On Wed, Oct 04, 2017 at 06:36:33PM +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > Are you sure? The parted manual seems to say otherwise: > > > http://www.hep.by/gnu/parted/set.html > > And I can fix the problem by manually running the parted command: > > set prep 1 on No I am not sure. I kno

Re: floating point types seems to need VSX support ?

On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 10:55:34PM -0400, Dennis Clarke wrote: > WARNING : long and winding but full of examples. > > > This is quite confusing with gcc 7.2.0 on latest ppc64 sid. > > nix_$ uname -a > Linux nix 4.13.0-1-powerpc64 #1 SMP Debian 4.13.4-1 (2017-10-01) ppc64 > GNU/Linux > > nix_$ g

Re: PPC64: gcc currently compiles for power4 by default, causing glibc's sqrtf to fail on e6500

On Tue, Feb 06, 2018 at 03:40:20PM +0100, Bas Vermeulen wrote: > I am trying to run the ppc64 unstable on a Freescale T2080, which uses the > e6500 CPU. Running python (or any other application using sqrt or sqrtf) > will cause an illegal instruction exception, because the sqrtf opcode is > not sup

Re: PPC64: gcc currently compiles for power4 by default, causing glibc's sqrtf to fail on e6500

On Tue, Feb 06, 2018 at 06:58:55PM +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > It would be nice if anyone who cares about the ppc64 could actually > post what kind of hardware they have. We should find a consensus on > where to put the baseline. Well at least the CPUs listed on https://wiki.debian.o

Re: PPC64: gcc currently compiles for power4 by default, causing glibc's sqrtf to fail on e6500

On Fri, Feb 09, 2018 at 11:34:12AM +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > This is something that needs to be discussed. A single user alone shouldn't > warrant such major change in a port. You always have to keep in mind that > changing the default compiler options also has potential impact on t

Re: Spurious lzma decompression error on ppc64

On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 08:15:07AM +0100, Christoph Biedl wrote: > Hello, > > since a few days ago, I get messages like > > | Unpacking libsmartcols1:ppc64 (2.31.1-0.4) over (2.30.2-0.3) ... > | dpkg-deb (subprocess): decompressing archive member: lzma error: compressed > data > | is corrupt >

Re: Removal of POWER4 support, (was: [GIT PULL] Please pull powerpc/linux.git powerpc-4.17-1 tag)

On Sun, Apr 08, 2018 at 09:50:46AM +0200, Mathieu Malaterre wrote: > Hi G5 users, > > Could someone shed some lights on POWER4 removal. I thought G5 were POWER4 ? > > (see below) > ... > - Removal of POWER4 support, which was accidentally broken in 2016 and no one >noticed, and blocked use o

Re: Error trying to update powerpc64 Jessie machine.

On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 01:55:28AM -0700, Rick Thomas wrote: > On Jun 28, 2018, at 8:09 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz > wrote: > > > Yes, as announced by DSA, the powerpc buildds have been shut down: > > Forgive my ignorance, What is “DSA”? Debian Security Advisory I believe. -- Len Sorensen

Re: Arch qualification for buster: call for DSA, Security, toolchain concerns

On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 10:20:50AM +0100, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > in addition, arm64 is usually speculative OoO (Cavium ThunderX V1 > being a notable exception) which means it's vulnerable to spectre and > meltdown attacks, whereas 32-bit ARM is exclusively in-order. if you > want t

Re: Error trying to update powerpc64 Jessie machine.

On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 09:09:50AM -0600, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > No, Debian System Administrators. Oh great, we have overlapping acronyms. :) -- Len Sorensen

Re: Problems with hfsprogs on G5 Power Macs

On Tue, Jan 08, 2019 at 10:40:55AM +0100, Frank Scheiner wrote: > On 1/7/19 22:13, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > > On 1/7/19 10:09 PM, Frank Scheiner wrote: > > > Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. > > > 0x000100034be4 in hfs_swap_HFSBTInternalNode (src=0x7fffd3a8, >

Re: old OpenServers able to use Debian?

On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 07:28:08AM -0500, IT1 Stuart Blake Tener, USNR wrote: > I have some P710 or P720 (they are 4U rack mount) OpenServers from a number > of years ago that I believe are Power5. Is there a current (or older) > version of Debian that works for them? P7xx should be power7 or powe

Re: Some board like RaspBerry with PowerPC

On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 03:20:46PM -0300, Alexandre Bencz wrote: > Hi > Is there any board, like Raspberry, but with PowerPC CPU, that is possible > to install Debian ? If you mean priced like a Raspberry Pi, then certainly not. Probably nothing even close the that small either. -- Len Sorensen

Re: Some board like RaspBerry with PowerPC

On Fri, Mar 22, 2019 at 04:45:26PM +0100, mickb...@posteo.net wrote: > The only PowerPC system I know about, is produced by Acube-systems [1], but > the price is around ten times the Raspberry. And I have no idea whether > debian > is installable or not. > > > [1] http://www.acube-systems.biz We

Re: Updated installation images for Debian Ports 2019-04-09

On Wed, Apr 10, 2019 at 02:48:59PM +0200, Frank Scheiner wrote: > On 4/10/19 08:50, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > > On 4/10/19 4:53 AM, Dennis Clarke wrote: > > > /usr/lib/grub-installer/mkhfs-bootstrap.sh: Permission denied > > > > Frank, I suggest invoking your script with "sh -c", could yo

Re: USB-RS232 with G4 (mac mini)

On Thu, May 23, 2019 at 11:11:38AM +0200, Mathieu Malaterre wrote: > Right I misunderstood that part. I still feel dumb, where do you get a > serial port on any modern laptop these days ? Another usb to serial adapter? -- Len Sorensen

Re: Booting Debian 10 on powernv POWER9 machine

On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 06:49:03PM -0300, Gustavo Romero wrote: > Has anybody tried to install, boot, and test successfully on a POWER9 powernv > machine? > > If so, could I get and advice on which Debian installer (ISO, initrd, and > vmlinuz) I should use please? I have not tried one, but I woul

Re: Booting Debian 10 on powernv POWER9 machine

On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 02:57:12PM -0300, Gustavo Romero wrote: > Sorry, I wrote my note super hastily and forgot to mention that I was > wondering > about BE specifically. Currently I see kernel 4.16 is used by the installer > and > I get a panic regarding a VMX Unavailable Exception on POWER9 p

Re: PPC64: G5 & 4k/64k page size (was: Re: Call for report - G5/PPC970 status)

On Mon, Jan 06, 2020 at 07:18:30PM +0100, Romain Dolbeau wrote: > Applied, recompiled with 64 KiB pages, still crashes. > > The backtrace seems more readable this time (and wasn't overwritten by > something else), bad photo here: > Is it possi

Re: PPC64: G5 & 4k/64k page size (was: Re: Call for report - G5/PPC970 status)

On Mon, Jan 06, 2020 at 08:11:47PM +0100, Romain Dolbeau wrote: > Interesting idea (and I have a 6600 aka NV43 in there, indeed) but I > don't think so, as > a) 'nouveau' works in 4.19 with 64 KiB pages > b) using "module_blacklist=nouveau" doesn't help, I just tried > c) my original 'bisect' was p

Re: 64-bit subtract from vector unsigned int

On Tue, Apr 07, 2020 at 05:51:54AM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > I'm porting a 64-bit algorithm to 32-bit PowerPC (an old PowerMac). > The algorithm is simple when 64-bit is available, but it gets a little > ugly under 32-bit. > > PowerPC has a "Vector Subtract Carryout Unsigned

Re: 64-bit subtract from vector unsigned int

On Tue, Apr 07, 2020 at 03:12:38PM +0200, Romain Dolbeau wrote: > You remember correctly, and also G5 (PowerPC 970) are 64-bits natively > and will happily run a 64 bits kernel (and even userland) in Linux > (including Debian), so this is for G4 (PowerPC 74xx) only (and G5 > running OSX, or NetBSD

Re: iMac G3 support in Sid, Impossible?

On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 05:46:19PM +, Alex McKeever wrote: > I was told that the kernel is why it doesn’t work 100%... that it needs User > Space Modesetting and thus needs an older kernel like 2.6, 3.13 or 4.4.0-187 > to work properly at all with the Rage128. I’d hate to say it but I’ve lost

Re: iMac G3 support in Sid, Impossible?

On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 02:16:21PM +0200, Karl wrote: > > Am 16.04.2020 um 20:12 schrieb Lennart Sorensen > > : > > > > … that is no longer a release architecture (because > > apparently there wasn't enough people to maintain it at a high enough &g

Re: Debian mirrors

On Sat, May 30, 2020 at 11:08:06PM +0200, David VANTYGHEM wrote: > I've got a good bandwith at home. So, I'm making a mirror for Debian > (and other Linux distributions). I'm trying jigdo but I read that it is > not anymore updated and that it's better to use zsync > (https://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/zsyn

Re: Bug#826796: Request for a new: linux-image-powerpc64-4K

On Fri, Jun 05, 2020 at 08:37:02AM +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > I would like to switch the ppc64 kernel back to 4k pages. The majority > of our users are people on G5 Macs anyway, so I don't see a point > in using 64k pages. > > Anyone with a large modern POWER machine is going to run

Re: Bug#826796: Request for a new: linux-image-powerpc64-4K

On Fri, Jun 05, 2020 at 03:08:55PM +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > Is POWER5 still supported by the Linux kernel? I thought IBM removed a > bunch of older machines but kept PowerPC 970 support. 4.17 dropped power4. power5 and up are still supported just fine. -- Len Sorensen

Re: Kernel broken for Apple powerbooks

On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 03:14:10PM +0200, Giuseppe Sacco wrote: > Hello, > since two months I am debugging the kernel boot process on an Apple > powerbook because latest Debian kernels do not boot. I already opened a bug > against debian src:linux package[1]. > Finally, I found the problem and I r

Re: Kernel broken for Apple powerbooks

On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 04:10:10PM +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > Not sure whether it's an actual problem because the majority of users with > a 32-bit kernel will be on Mac hardware, so the number of fixed systems > will certainly outweigh the number of systems which can't be debugged.

Re: AW: debian-ports source packages

On Wed, Sep 02, 2020 at 08:45:33AM +, Budweiser Gregor wrote: > I was not aware of this. We are using the powerpc packages. I assume > those are more generic builds (like i386 used to be). e500 can't execute FPU code from generic powerpc as far as I know. At least not 64 bit FPU code. Of cour

Re: Installation media couldn't be mounted

On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 11:59:32AM -0400, Sam Imberman wrote: > Thanks for your response! > The image is the one available at: > https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/10.0/powerpc/iso-cd/debian-10.0-powerpc-NETINST-1.iso > > When I try to mount /dev/sdb1 manually using `mount /dev/sdb1 /cdrom`

Re: Installation media couldn't be mounted

On Sun, Oct 18, 2020 at 08:37:20AM -0400, Sam Imberman wrote: > /proc/partitions: > > major minor #blocks name > 11 0 1048575sr0 > 8 0 58605120 sda > 8 16 15581184 sdb > 8 17 318524 sdb1 > > Also, I uploaded screenshots of /var/log/syslog upthread, is that what you > mean? H

Re: Debian 11 ppc64be

On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 12:34:49AM +0100, Karl wrote: > will there be a Debian 11 release for PPC64be again or is it Sid? > Because on that site, it’s listed as available: > https://openpower.ic.unicamp.br/minicloud/ I don't recall ppc64 ever being an official released architecture. ppc was but n

Re: Compatible Debian PPC64 B.E for L.E servers

On Sun, Oct 25, 2020 at 03:30:05PM -0300, Alexandre Bencz wrote: > well... > > this is quite interesting, even for use on Power7 servers ... I have several > clients that use Debian on P7 and P6 so, having a compilation that uses > the latest CPU instructions, would be interesting Right, so

Re: Compatible Debian PPC64 B.E for L.E servers

On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 05:04:48PM +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > I had to re-read this several times and just to be clear: You can still > run big-endian code perfectly fine on POWER8 machines and newer (unless > IBM removed support with POWER10). You can, but it seems very few people

Re: Debian 11 ppc64be

On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 07:17:34AM -0400, Dennis Clarke wrote: > Provided you don't mind the power usage you may run Debian sid on an old > Apple Power Mac machine just fine. In fact the Power Mac quad has decent > performance and it is great to have around for doing code test work as > it is big e

Re: Debian Sid PPC64 / IBM pSeries 550 --- Bootloaders don't work after succesful install

On Sun, Nov 01, 2020 at 09:24:08PM +, Deinsti Suski wrote: > Recently me and a friend of mine have been trying to install Debian Sid on > an IBM pSeries 550 server to no avail; we have attempted a variety of > methods such as installing GRUB with everything on an / ext4 partition, > GRUB with a

Re: Debian Sid PPC64 / IBM pSeries 550 --- Bootloaders don't work after succesful install

On Wed, Nov 04, 2020 at 02:48:03PM +, Deinsti Suski wrote: > Hello Len > > 1; Yes, we are using the MBR Partition table > 2; the PreP partition is 8MB and has the Boot flag set to on > 3; Debian is running on bare-metal, no hypervisor involved > 3; Correct, the installer boots with no issues a

Re: Donations

On Fri, Mar 05, 2021 at 12:17:25PM +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > Thanks for the support! > > Since original discussion evolved around the G3 beige model, I would prefer > if the community found a cheap G3 beige model to work on for me. > > Also, the G3 beige tower takes less space as

Re: OT: Huge Right to Repair Win for Consumers

On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 06:53:57AM +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > So, why should laws protect the intellectual property of software companies > but not the IP of hardware companies? Ideally it shouldn't. > What supporters euphemistically call a "right to repair" is in reality an > init

Re: Bug#989645: /usr/sbin/grub-mkconfig: dpkg: error processing package linux-image-powerpc (--configure):

On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 08:03:38AM -0600, Stan Johnson wrote: > Some people find it to be important to install only free software. > > If hfsprogs were truly non-free, then an alternative would need to be > found, since hfsprogs provides required functionality. > > I read the above links, which l

Re: Altivec in baseline for ppc64?

On Fri, Jul 16, 2021 at 01:08:47PM +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > Well, you could have runtime detection like certain multimedia codes and > OpenSSL use but > most packages don't do that. > > Either way, if certain downstreams want better support for certain targets, > they are always

Re: [Pkg-javascript-devel] Bug#991638: nodejs: Please enable build on 32-bit PowerPC (powerpc)

On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 10:23:38PM +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > It should work on the standard 32-bit PowerPC baseline which includes > AltiVec. Other systems such as PowerPC E500 had their own Debian port > anyway (powerpcspe). 32 bit powerpc does not require altivec. e300 runs it f

Re: package containing icu-config

On Thu, Sep 09, 2021 at 05:49:29PM +, Mick Bert wrote: > Trying to compile a software, the configure fails complaining for missing > icu-config. I have already installed icu-devtools and libicu-dev. Which > package should I install? > > Are there a way to query which package contains a particu

Re: "No kernel modules were found" PowerPC Businesscard and Netinstdaily CDs

On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 10:10:02AM +0200, Jeroen Diederen wrote: > Is anyone reading the powerpc list? > > I sent a question about pmu_battery a while ago, I had no response. I don't think the IBM p520 I work with has any battery. :) I know the RX5000 and RX1500 certainly don't which are the pow

Re: Debian 6 PPC 64bit on IBM Power7 - how to multipathing ?

On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 03:18:51PM +0200, Schneck Dennis CIS SDE wrote: > is there a way to get multipath working with Debian 6 ? md multipath works. I don't remember if the installer does that or not. > If I define on both VIOS a VSCSI Device for the harddisk > > I see 2 hardisks /dev/sda and

Re: newest linux-image-3.0.0-1 doesn't recognize HD

On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 10:04:18AM -0300, Gunther Furtado wrote: > With the latest update, kernel doesn't recognize my HD (neither uuid > nor /dev/hdaX). When I boot into it, I get to an initramfs shell and > when I run > > ls /dev/ > > there isn't anything that I could perceive as hd. I've read

Re: Build failure on specific PPC systems

On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 07:30:07PM -0400, James Vega wrote: > Since at least 4.2.4, Racket has been failing to build[0][1] for Debian > on G5-based PowerPC systems[2][3]. At the time, the only other PowerPC > system that was available within Debian to debug on was a G4-based > system[4]. On that

Re: Build failure on specific PPC systems

On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 10:58:04PM -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote: > On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 07:30:07PM -0400, James Vega wrote: > > Since at least 4.2.4, Racket has been failing to build[0][1] for Debian > > on G5-based PowerPC systems[2][3]. At the time, the only other PowerPC

Re: [racket-dev] Build failure on specific PPC systems

On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 09:34:30AM -0600, Matthew Flatt wrote: > Right --- the Racket JIT definitely does not support PPC in 64-bit > mode. > > The Racket PPC JIT is enabled on Linux when `powerpc' is #defined at > build time. Is `powerpc' #defined for the 64-bit build, perhaps in > addition to `p

Re: Bug#638250: Needs to be adapted for libav/0.7

On Sun, Sep 04, 2011 at 08:47:59AM +0200, Reinhard Tartler wrote: > I strongly disagree that this arch specific defect on ppc is in any way > a blocking bug for recompiling moc-ffmpeg-plugin against the new libav > libraries. It only affects (some?) altivec enabled machines and can be > easily avo

Re: Bug#638250: Needs to be adapted for libav/0.7

On Sun, Sep 04, 2011 at 04:13:52PM -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote: > Are there any that don't experience it? > > I just tried running ffmpeg on a power6+ machine under gdb and got: > > Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. > 0x0f6ff37c in ff_fft_calc_altiv

Re: Can an iMac G5 be useful for the project?

On Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 05:07:53PM -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > I held this conversation with David Bremner, who suggested me to bring > the topic here in the list. Please comment if you find this machine > useful in any way: > > I have a spare G5 machine which I'd gladly donate to the project - A

Re: SuperDrive Door?

On Wed, Oct 05, 2011 at 02:43:47PM -0700, David Lowe wrote: > Okeh, i got Squeeze running on my PowerMac G5. My next stumbling block > is optical discs. Specifically, when i go to install some package that is on > the original DVD [say, 'build-essential'] Synaptic tells me to insert the

Re: Yaboot install problem - IBM 911-285

On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 03:24:09PM +0100, Benedikt Wegmann wrote: > a while ago I succeeded in installing Debian 6.0.3 (ppc64) on an IBM > Power740 via the netinstall image. > During the setup process it was necessary to update the yaboot > bootloader and manually change its configuration. > Once i

Re: Yaboot install problem - IBM 911-285

On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 01:58:41PM +, Mark Benson wrote: > I have a new IBM IntelliStation 285 (9111-285) and am trying to install. > Using the latest Debian 6.0.3 DVD or netinstall images. I can setup and > install Debian just fine, but when I hit the yaboot install stage it fails > and rep

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