On Mon, Oct 09, 2006 at 10:27:41PM +0200, Denis Barbier wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 09, 2006 at 01:22:03PM +0200, Gabriel Paubert wrote:
[...]
> > I've been unable to match MacOS and have something that works
> > under emacs: ideally I'd like to use both Alt keys as level3
> > (option lv3:alt_switch does
On Mon, Oct 09, 2006 at 01:22:03PM +0200, Gabriel Paubert wrote:
> Well, it works more or less. It does not work as I'd like
> on my old Powerbook since Apple changed the order of the
> keys right of the spacebar a few years ago:
>
> - now the keys are: spacebar, Command(Apple), Enter
> - on the
On Sun, Sep 24, 2006 at 12:17:09AM +0200, Denis Barbier wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 29, 2006 at 01:26:09PM +0200, Gabriel Paubert wrote:
> > Another point, the es layout for Macintosh is actually
> > latin american. Apple makes both es and latin american
> > and they are very different: simply look at th
On Tue, Aug 29, 2006 at 01:26:09PM +0200, Gabriel Paubert wrote:
> Another point, the es layout for Macintosh is actually
> latin american. Apple makes both es and latin american
> and they are very different: simply look at the differences
> between latam and es in the symbols directory.
There i
On 13/09/06, Sylvain Joyeux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Fix that on *your* system or for *your* user account. Some people
> actually _need_ it.
Just *calm down*, my question was specifically "how to fix that *here*". Could
you enlighten me and tell me for *what* it is used ?
Sorry, I didn't me
Hello Denis,
On Sun, Sep 10, 2006 at 09:48:11PM +0200, Denis Barbier wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 10:00:06PM +0200, Helge Kreutzmann wrote:
> > > Next I compare both the keyboard on the console and in X. Since the third
> > > level is (almost) not printed on the keyboard an I never use X (but n
> Well, it's used to type a non breaking space ;)
Well, frankly, I am french and I never type them directly. transforms normal spaces kindly when
needed. I never knew it was specifically handled by some programs, seems like
I'll sleep a less ignorant man tonight ;-)
Thanks for the information.
On Wed, Sep 13, 2006 at 03:26:50PM +0200, Sylvain Joyeux wrote:
> > Fix that on *your* system or for *your* user account. Some people
> > actually _need_ it.
> Just *calm down*, my question was specifically "how to fix that *here*".
> Could
> you enlighten me and tell me for *what* it is used ?
> Fix that on *your* system or for *your* user account. Some people
> actually _need_ it.
Just *calm down*, my question was specifically "how to fix that *here*". Could
you enlighten me and tell me for *what* it is used ?
Sylvain
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On 13/09/06, Sylvain Joyeux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Just for information, I don't know if I'm the only one but I find
the 'nobreakspace' symbol very annoying (it usually shows up when I write
a '{ ' or '[ ' since my right finger stays on the altgr when I press space).
Is it really needed ? Can
Just for information, I don't know if I'm the only one but I find
the 'nobreakspace' symbol very annoying (it usually shows up when I write
a '{ ' or '[ ' since my right finger stays on the altgr when I press space).
Is it really needed ? Can it be disabled without just copying the fr symbol
fi
On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 10:00:06PM +0200, Helge Kreutzmann wrote:
> > Next I compare both the keyboard on the console and in X. Since the third
> > level is (almost) not printed on the keyboard an I never use X (but normal
> > keyboards a lot) I'd like to have the third level as on an ordinary
> >
Hello Denis,
On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 09:35:46PM +0200, Helge Kreutzmann wrote:
> Hello Denis,
> I used xkb-data_0.8-10exp1_all.deb from your tmp directory as described in
now the same with xkb-data_0.8-12exp1_all.deb
> First, after issuing "setxkbmap -print | xkbcomp - :0" I can finally jump
> fr
Hello Denis,
I used xkb-data_0.8-10exp1_all.deb from your tmp directory as described in
your e-mail. First, while everybody in this thread seems to know all the
details about keyboard mapping, I am not so deep into the details. In would
be nice, if some more documentation would be available. The c
On Fri, Sep 01, 2006 at 11:24:38PM +0200, Yannick Roehlly wrote:
> Denis Barbier wrote:
>
> > If you set XkbModel to 'ibook', the small Enter key (keycode 108) becomes
> > ISO_Level3_Shift.
>
> Hi Denis,
>
> With the new xkb stuff, is it possible to tweak separately de keymaps of the
> ibook key
On Thu, Aug 31, 2006 at 10:17:48PM +0200, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote:
[...]
> I did a few tests, hoping to not mess up as much as I did yesterday :)
> The most important for me: I was not able to get the swapped keys (^°
> and <>) back to where they should be.
All your problems should have been fixed
On Thu, Aug 31, 2006 at 01:54:30PM +0200, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote:
> On Thu, 2006-08-31 at 12:28 +0200, Denis Barbier wrote:
> > * xkb-data 0.8-10exp1 has been uploaded into experimental; it contains
> > above changes and also:
> > - debian/patches/macbook_keycodes.diff.diff: Add a new macbook
Hi,
I just tested xkb-data_0.8-10exp1_all.deb from
http://people.debian.org/barbier/tmp/
extracted to ~/XKB and symlinked /usr/share/lib/X11/xkb to it :
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/XKB/usr/share/X11/xkb$ ls -l /usr/share/X11/xkb
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 31 2006-09-03 20:14 /usr/share/X11/xkb ->
/home/sjv/
Denis Barbier wrote:
> If you set XkbModel to 'ibook', the small Enter key (keycode 108) becomes
> ISO_Level3_Shift.
Hi Denis,
With the new xkb stuff, is it possible to tweak separately de keymaps of the
ibook keyboard and the external usb keyboard one?
>> There's also the problem of the lack
On Thu, Aug 31, 2006 at 12:35:31PM +0200, Denis Barbier wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 30, 2006 at 06:22:27PM +0200, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote:
> [...]
> > > * Mac model (ibook, g4, g5, etc)
> >
> > PowerBook G4, [5,8]
> >
> > > * Mac keyboard (USB or not, country variant)
> >
> > internal keyboard, [DE]
>
Le Tue, Aug 29, 2006 at 01:24:02AM +0200, Denis Barbier a écrit :
> But Macintosh keyboards have not been updated, mainly because
> upstream does not have such hardware, and also because people
> seem to want different default options for their special keys.
Hi,
I am also willing to help, but I
On Thu, 2006-08-31 at 12:28 +0200, Denis Barbier wrote:
> * xkb-data 0.8-10exp1 has been uploaded into experimental; it contains
> above changes and also:
> - debian/patches/macbook_keycodes.diff.diff: Add a new macbook model
> to swap and keycodes for recent Mac boxes.
So I should begin
On Thu, 31 Aug 2006, Denis Barbier wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 30, 2006 at 06:55:18PM +0200, Ben Mueller wrote:
> > except KP_Equal. The key on my PowerBook5,2 (15'' with ADB keyboard) emits
> > keycode 157 while keycodes/xfree86 maps to keycode 126. (I would
> > like to file a bug about this, but I do
On Wed, Aug 30, 2006 at 08:23:13PM +0200, Yannick Roehlly wrote:
[...]
> On my ibook, it's a little different: the two apple keys have the same 115
> keycode (but my apple usb keyboard makes the difference between the two 115
> and 116 apple keys.
>
> The fn key gives access to additional keycodes:
On Wed, Aug 30, 2006 at 06:22:27PM +0200, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote:
[...]
> > * Mac model (ibook, g4, g5, etc)
>
> PowerBook G4, [5,8]
>
> > * Mac keyboard (USB or not, country variant)
>
> internal keyboard, [DE]
>
> I made a picture:
> http://www.geocities.com/wolfgangpfeiffer/keyboard.PBook.g
On Wed, Aug 30, 2006 at 06:55:18PM +0200, Ben Mueller wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm very happy that someone is taking care of the macintosh keyboards!
>
> First I switched to
> XkbRules: xorg
> XkbModel: pc105
> XkbLayout: de
> XkbVariant: mac_nodeadkeys
> XkbOptions: lv3:lalt_switch
> which
On Wed, Aug 30, 2006 at 04:05:39PM +0200, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote:
> On Wed, 2006-08-30 at 15:50 +0200, Denis Barbier wrote:
> > Salut,
>
> Sorry for non french readers, the original mail is in french.
Yes, I thought that you would not quote me ;)
And now I hava network problems at home, so I will
OK, I did another test with xkb-data 0.8-9exp1.
On Wed, 30 Aug 2006, Ben Mueller wrote:
> First I switched to
> XkbRules: xorg
> XkbModel: pc105
> XkbLayout: de
> XkbVariant: mac_nodeadkeys
> XkbOptions: lv3:lalt_switch
> which is also provided by xkb-data 0.8-8 in unstable. This
Hi,
Here's another French with an ibook in love with Debian. ;-)
Denis, I tried your xkb-data package with the modifications done to
symbols/macintosh_vndr/fr for the modifiers.
The xorg.conf options are :
Option "XkbRules" "xorg"
Option "XkbModel" "m
On Wed, Aug 30, 2006 at 06:22:27PM +0200, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote:
>
>
> The xkbcomp output when (hopefully) .xmodmap is loaded:
>
> Please note that Geocities does not seem to accept an .xkb extension
> when uploading files to my homepage. So I renamed it to a .txt file:
>
> $ xkbcomp :0 -o s
Hi,
I'm very happy that someone is taking care of the macintosh keyboards!
First I switched to
XkbRules: xorg
XkbModel: pc105
XkbLayout:de
XkbVariant: mac_nodeadkeys
XkbOptions: lv3:lalt_switch
which is also provided by xkb-data 0.8-8 in unstable. This is working well
e
On Wed, Aug 30, 2006 at 06:22:27PM +0200, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote:
> Hi Denis
>
> On Tue, Aug 29, 2006 at 10:48:15PM +0200, Denis Barbier wrote:
> >
> > 5. What informations should be reported?
> >=
> >
>
> And here's the one made with the settings as sh
Hi Denis
On Tue, Aug 29, 2006 at 10:48:15PM +0200, Denis Barbier wrote:
>
> 5. What informations should be reported?
>=
>
> Everything ;)
> Basically I have to make sure that there are no regressions before
> this package can be uploaded into unstable. Th
On Wed, 2006-08-30 at 16:05 +0200, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote:
> keycodes 3764115 65116108
> nameCtrl_L Alt_L Super_L space ISO_Level3_Shift KP_Enter
And as a side note, Super_L can't be binded to shortcuts in gtk (afaik),
so I guess mode_switch was better (but
On Wed, 2006-08-30 at 15:50 +0200, Denis Barbier wrote:
> Salut,
Sorry for non french readers, the original mail is in french.
>
> en lisant tes mails sur debian-powerpc, je me suis rendu compte de quelques
> oublis. Tout d'abord, j'ai merd symbols/macintosh_vndr/fr il faut enlever
> les lignes c
On Tue, 2006-08-29 at 22:48 +0200, Denis Barbier wrote:
> 5. What informations should be reported?
>=
>
> Everything ;)
> Basically I have to make sure that there are no regressions before
> this package can be uploaded into unstable. This means that if a
>
On Tue, Aug 29, 2006 at 11:16:18PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
[...]
> > This option should also work for any Debian-based distribution with
> > X.Org 7.0.
>
> So, folk running sarge will not be able to make this experiment, right ?
IIRC I had problems with X.Org releases prior to 7.0, but I do no
Thanks for this more detailed information.
On Tue, Aug 29, 2006 at 10:48:15PM +0200, Denis Barbier wrote:
> 3. How to install it?
>==
>
> Sid users can install it directly. As it has not been tested at all,
> your X server may hang up or your keyboard may be fully broken, so
On Tue, Aug 29, 2006 at 02:03:33AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
[...]
> Mmm, altough i have only a US keyboard powerbook, i would willingly test this,
> as this is a major problematic point for mac keyboards.
>
> I have two questions though :
>
> 1) how do you detect you have a pmac keyboard, and
Hi,
On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 01:24:02 +0200
Denis Barbier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I just uploaded xkb-data_0.8-8exp1_all.deb into experimental to
> try to fix this mess. Unfortunately I also have no Mac keyboard,
> so I could not test it at all and need your help to find and fix
> bugs. When ev
On Tue, 2006-08-29 at 01:24 +0200, Denis Barbier wrote:
>
> In this version, Macintosh layouts are modified like PC ones,
> 3rd and 4th levels are kept in the 1st group instead of belonging
> to a 2nd group. You may need additional options (see for instance
> /usr/share/X11/xkb/rules/xorg.lst) to
Hi Denis
On Tue, Aug 29, 2006 at 01:24:02AM +0200, Denis Barbier wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> PC keyboards have been redesigned in Xfree86 4.3 to allow loading
> several layouts (for instance us+ru+fr); in xkeyboard-config, all
> previous PC layouts have been dropped and replaced by these new
> layouts
On Tue, Aug 29, 2006 at 01:24:02AM +0200, Denis Barbier wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> PC keyboards have been redesigned in Xfree86 4.3 to allow loading
> several layouts (for instance us+ru+fr); in xkeyboard-config, all
> previous PC layouts have been dropped and replaced by these new
> layouts.
> But Ma
On Tue, Aug 29, 2006 at 01:24:02AM +0200, Denis Barbier wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> PC keyboards have been redesigned in Xfree86 4.3 to allow loading
> several layouts (for instance us+ru+fr); in xkeyboard-config, all
> previous PC layouts have been dropped and replaced by these new
> layouts.
> But Ma
Hi folks,
PC keyboards have been redesigned in Xfree86 4.3 to allow loading
several layouts (for instance us+ru+fr); in xkeyboard-config, all
previous PC layouts have been dropped and replaced by these new
layouts.
But Macintosh keyboards have not been updated, mainly because
upstream does not hav
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