On 3 Dec, this message from Gaudenz Steinlin echoed through cyberspace:
>> How about the one attached below? It's for my swiss-french keyboard,
>> but I suppose most of the things you're looking for are identical.
>
> Physically swiss french and swiss german keyboards are identical. The
> keymap
Am Don, den 04.12.2003 schrieb nico dreher um 16:35:
> Thanks for your help!
>
> 1.
> I edited XF86Config-4 and .xmodmaprc as suggested.
>
> 2.
> But @ still won't work. Instead I get:
> Alt-Gr = ç.
> I get no #, |, [, ], {, }, etc. but ¶, µ,
I have no problems with these keys. Are you using
Thanks for your help!
1.
I edited XF86Config-4 and .xmodmaprc as suggested.
2.
But @ still won't work. Instead I get:
Alt-Gr = ç.
I get no #, |, [, ], {, }, etc. but ¶, µ,
My XF86Config-4 looks like this:
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Generic Keyboard"
Driver
Am Mit, den 03.12.2003 schrieb Mich Lanners um 21:26:
> Hi,
>
> On 2 Dec, this message from nico dreher echoed through cyberspace:
> > I am looking for an ALT- and CTRL- configuration on a Swiss German
> > qwertz keyboard (PowerBook G3 Lombard).
> >
> > I tried the sample .Xmodmap from
> > ht
Hi,
On 2 Dec, this message from nico dreher echoed through cyberspace:
> I am looking for an ALT- and CTRL- configuration on a Swiss German
> qwertz keyboard (PowerBook G3 Lombard).
>
> I tried the sample .Xmodmap from
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc/2003/debian-powerpc-200308/
> ms
Hello list,
I am looking for an ALT- and CTRL- configuration on a Swiss German qwertz keyboard (PowerBook G3 Lombard).
I tried the sample .Xmodmap from
http://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc/2003/debian-powerpc-200308/msg00182.html (see quoted below).
However I am looking for an .Xmodmap that be
> I was concerned about the keys that differ on an Apple keyboard,
> compared to a PC keyboard. Like control, option, apple, vs. control,
> windows, alt, altgt and the other 2 keys. Maybe these can be redefined
> after including the main rules/xfree86 file.
Yes, they can. The number of keys that
On Tue, Aug 26, Frank Murphy wrote:
> On Monday 25 August 2003 8:59, Olaf Hering wrote:
> > The non us and de maps need review, but should almost match what MacOS
> > does.
>
> So I looked at the extensive diffs you sent, and I have a couple of
> questions.
> The first is about the changes you
On Monday 25 August 2003 8:59, Olaf Hering wrote:
> The non us and de maps need review, but should almost match what MacOS
> does.
So I looked at the extensive diffs you sent, and I have a couple of questions.
The first is about the changes you made to the macintosh keycodes file. I
like the new
On Mon, 2003-08-25 at 22:44, Frank Murphy wrote:
>
> My point for having an apple file is that I'd like the macintosh symbol maps
> to be based on the default symbols. That way, when changes like the
> ISO_Shift_Level/Mode_switch and alt_is_meta happen, the Apple keyboards stay
> current.
And
On Monday 25 August 2003 2:55, Michel Dänzer wrote:
> (How) does this work with layouts other than us? And how do you get
> laptop with nodeadkeys?
It doesn't. Sorry about that. I went to quickly and was seduced by the idea of
the variant. :) I've attached a patch that does it more like you had,
On Mon, Aug 25, Michel Dänzer wrote:
> On Mon, 2003-08-25 at 11:06, Frank Murphy wrote:
> >
> > --- rules/xfree86.dpkg-dist 2003-02-26 09:39:56.0 +0100
> > +++ rules/xfree86 2003-08-24 11:54:28.0 +0200
> > @@ -56,6 +56,7 @@
> >pc105nodeadkeys =
On Mon, 2003-08-25 at 11:06, Frank Murphy wrote:
>
> --- rules/xfree86.dpkg-dist 2003-02-26 09:39:56.0 +0100
> +++ rules/xfree86 2003-08-24 11:54:28.0 +0200
> @@ -56,6 +56,7 @@
>pc105nodeadkeys = en_US(pc105%_v)+%l%(v)
>microsoftnode
On Monday 25 August 2003 9:57, Andreas Wüst wrote:
> But hey, thank you very much!! I've now lost a bit track, testing all
> the new laptop keymap versions and its patches. But from my point of
> view, this seems to lead to the right solution.
I've attached a patch here that should apply to the De
Hi Frank
On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 15:27, Frank Murphy wrote:
> On Tuesday 19 August 2003 12:52, Andreas Wüst wrote:
> > On Sat, 2003-08-16 at 19:19, Frank Murphy wrote:
> > > On Saturday 16 August 2003 1:23, Andreas Wüst wrote:
> > > > Well, it kind of worked. I could reach the third group via fn+al
On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 15:23, Frank Murphy wrote:
> On Thursday 21 August 2003 12:40, Michel Dänzer wrote:
> > On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 11:44, Frank Murphy wrote:
> > > On Wednesday 20 August 2003 5:33, Michel Dänzer wrote:
> > > > I can get the fourth level with Mode_switch-Shift-key (as opposed to
>
On Tuesday 19 August 2003 12:52, Andreas Wüst wrote:
> On Sat, 2003-08-16 at 19:19, Frank Murphy wrote:
> > On Saturday 16 August 2003 1:23, Andreas Wüst wrote:
> > > Well, it kind of worked. I could reach the third group via fn+alt (the
> > > left one, I don't remember the right one), but, hmm, no
On Thursday 21 August 2003 12:40, Michel Dänzer wrote:
> On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 11:44, Frank Murphy wrote:
> > On Wednesday 20 August 2003 5:33, Michel Dänzer wrote:
> > > I can get the fourth level with Mode_switch-Shift-key (as opposed to
> > > Shift-Mode_switch-key, which becomes Multi_key-key),
On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 11:44, Frank Murphy wrote:
> On Wednesday 20 August 2003 5:33, Michel Dänzer wrote:
> > I can get the fourth level with Mode_switch-Shift-key (as opposed to
> > Shift-Mode_switch-key, which becomes Multi_key-key),
>
> OK, I got it. It's a bit wierd to get to Mutli_key, but i
On Wednesday 20 August 2003 5:33, Michel Dänzer wrote:
> I can get the fourth level with Mode_switch-Shift-key (as opposed to
> Shift-Mode_switch-key, which becomes Multi_key-key),
OK, I got it. It's a bit wierd to get to Mutli_key, but it works OK as a
default. I'll probably add another variati
On Wed, 2003-08-20 at 13:31, Frank Murphy wrote:
>
> The problem is that Mode_switch and Multi_key can't be assigned to the same
> keycode or keysym with only a level-shift to separate them. The third- and
> fourth-levels are useless because Mode_switch must be pressed before they can
> be used
On Wednesday 20 August 2003 11:17, Emmanuel Eckard wrote:
> On Wednesday 20 August 2003 11:07, David M. Cooke wrote:
> > On Tue, Aug 19, 2003 at 10:33:17PM +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote:
> > > On Tue, 2003-08-19 at 22:22, Frank Murphy wrote:
> > > > It seems that we need a new key for Multi_key as wel
On Wed, 2003-08-20 at 11:07, David M. Cooke wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 19, 2003 at 10:33:17PM +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote:
> > On Tue, 2003-08-19 at 22:22, Frank Murphy wrote:
> > >
> > > It seems that we need a new key for Multi_key as well. Any ideas?
> >
> > I proposed earlier what I've been using fo
On Wednesday 20 August 2003 11:07, David M. Cooke wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 19, 2003 at 10:33:17PM +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote:
> > On Tue, 2003-08-19 at 22:22, Frank Murphy wrote:
> > > It seems that we need a new key for Multi_key as well. Any ideas?
> >
> > I proposed earlier what I've been using for
On Tue, Aug 19, 2003 at 10:33:17PM +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote:
> On Tue, 2003-08-19 at 22:22, Frank Murphy wrote:
> >
> > It seems that we need a new key for Multi_key as well. Any ideas?
>
> I proposed earlier what I've been using for a while:
>
> 108 0xff7e (Mode_switch)0xff20
On Tue, 2003-08-19 at 22:22, Frank Murphy wrote:
>
> It seems that we need a new key for Multi_key as well. Any ideas?
I proposed earlier what I've been using for a while:
108 0xff7e (Mode_switch)0xff20 (Multi_key)
Or does anybody _really_ need that stupid enter key? :)
--
Ea
On Tuesday 19 August 2003 1:32, Michel Dänzer wrote:
> On Tue, 2003-08-19 at 00:52, Andreas Wüst wrote:
> > fn+alt+6:
> >
> > KeyPress event, serial 28, synthetic NO, window 0x181,
> > root 0x2d, subw 0x182, time 386835101, (53,50), root:(539,353),
> > state 0x0, keycode 113 (keysym
On Tue, 2003-08-19 at 00:52, Andreas Wüst wrote:
>
> fn+alt+6:
>
> KeyPress event, serial 28, synthetic NO, window 0x181,
> root 0x2d, subw 0x182, time 386835101, (53,50), root:(539,353),
> state 0x0, keycode 113 (keysym 0xff7e, Mode_switch), same_screen
> YES,
> XLookupString
Hi Frank
On Sat, 2003-08-16 at 19:19, Frank Murphy wrote:
> On Saturday 16 August 2003 1:23, Andreas Wüst wrote:
> > Well, it kind of worked. I could reach the third group via fn+alt (the
> > left one, I don't remember the right one), but, hmm, not all symbols
> > worked. For example, I could get
On Saturday 16 August 2003 1:23, Andreas Wüst wrote:
> Well, it kind of worked. I could reach the third group via fn+alt (the
> left one, I don't remember the right one), but, hmm, not all symbols
> worked. For example, I could get [ (fn+alt+5), but I couldn't get ]
> (fn+alt+6). { and } was imposs
Hi Frank
Ok, I am finally back! And thanks again for your answer!
On Wed, 2003-08-13 at 09:49, Frank Murphy wrote:
> > > Option "XkbSymbols" "de_CH+group(switch)"
> >
> > Ahh, well, I did (and YES, I did deactivate my .Xmodmap first), but,
> > uhhm, this has to be the so called make-fun-at
> > Ah, right. Because Mac OS only uses the Alt key to generate 'odd'
> > characters, but we use it for more. It sucks that Apple wired the iBooks
> > so that the Alt_R key is a pain to get to. The Enter key on my iBook is
> > in a good place (between the spacebar and right alt key)...
>
> Indeed.
On Thu, 2003-08-14 at 17:43, Frank Murphy wrote:
> > > Don't you think it would be the best to produce the same characters with
> > > the same key combinations as in OS X by default (eg. for swiss keyboards
> > > that ALT-G = @, ALT-8 = {, ALT-6 = ],...) ?
> >
> > What about apps which use these co
On Thu, 2003-08-14 at 21:01, Rogério Brito wrote:
> On Aug 14 2003, Michel Dänzer wrote:
> > I use Delete (xmodmapped it to Shift+Backspace) for deleting mail, so
> > it's important to me. :) Dunno about the majority of people though.
>
> And how do you do that? The same way I posted some time ago
On Aug 14 2003, Michel Dänzer wrote:
> I use Delete (xmodmapped it to Shift+Backspace) for deleting mail, so
> it's important to me. :) Dunno about the majority of people though.
And how do you do that? The same way I posted some time ago? Does it
work for all clients (like, xterm/rxvt)?
[]s, Ro
> > Don't you think it would be the best to produce the same characters with
> > the same key combinations as in OS X by default (eg. for swiss keyboards
> > that ALT-G = @, ALT-8 = {, ALT-6 = ],...) ?
>
> What about apps which use these combos for something else? I agree that
> -G should yield @,
On Thu, 2003-08-14 at 13:58, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote:
> Michel Dänzer wrote:
> > On Wed, 2003-08-13 at 17:47, Frank Murphy wrote:
> >
> Yeah, the fn-thing isn't so convienient. Do you have another idea for
> getting these? Or if they're even necessary? I know that Alt_R is often
> used
> > What exactly do you mean by that? Same as in Mac OS? It has very
> > different requirements for modifiers, doesn't it?
>
> Don't you think it would be the best to produce the same characters with
> the same key combinations as in OS X by default (eg. for swiss keyboards
> that ALT-G = @, ALT-8
Michel Dänzer wrote:
On Wed, 2003-08-13 at 17:47, Frank Murphy wrote:
Yeah, the fn-thing isn't so convienient. Do you have another idea for
getting these? Or if they're even necessary? I know that Alt_R is often
used for AltGr on European keyboards, but are the others used in a
standard way?
On Wed, 2003-08-13 at 17:47, Frank Murphy wrote:
> > > Yeah, the fn-thing isn't so convienient. Do you have another idea for
> > > getting these? Or if they're even necessary? I know that Alt_R is often
> > > used for AltGr on European keyboards, but are the others used in a
> > > standard way?
> >
On Thursday 14 August 2003 11:37, Michel Dänzer wrote:
> On Wed, 2003-08-13 at 17:47, Frank Murphy wrote:
> > > > Yeah, the fn-thing isn't so convienient. Do you have another idea for
> > > > getting these? Or if they're even necessary? I know that Alt_R is
> > > > often used for AltGr on European
> > Yeah, the fn-thing isn't so convienient. Do you have another idea for
> > getting these? Or if they're even necessary? I know that Alt_R is often
> > used for AltGr on European keyboards, but are the others used in a
> > standard way?
>
> Can't think of much else except UAE wanting right ctrl
Hi !
I'm currently twicking my keyboard mapping file; the computer is an iBook and
the layout is Swiss French, so I take it we're quite close to your keyboard.
I found my file actually allows me to get the "tilde", the "at", and to change
consoles, things that I couldn't do with the regular fi
On Wed, 2003-08-13 at 12:48, Frank Murphy wrote:
> > Most importantly, the shift and command keys are duplicate, so the right
> > shift, command and alt keys are missing. (I know that they're sort of
> > available with fn, but I doubt that most people consider that a viable
> > solution for often-u
> Most importantly, the shift and command keys are duplicate, so the right
> shift, command and alt keys are missing. (I know that they're sort of
> available with fn, but I doubt that most people consider that a viable
> solution for often-used symbols)
Yeah, the fn-thing isn't so convienient. D
On Wed, 2003-08-13 at 10:56, Frank Murphy wrote:
> On Wednesday 13 August 2003 10:32, Michel Dänzer wrote:
> > On Tue, 2003-08-12 at 00:34, Andreas Wüst wrote:
> > > I wonder if there's really a need for a laptop variant. What is the
> > > difference between a normal and a laptop keyboard apart fro
On Wednesday 13 August 2003 10:32, Michel Dänzer wrote:
> On Tue, 2003-08-12 at 00:34, Andreas Wüst wrote:
> > I wonder if there's really a need for a laptop variant. What is the
> > difference between a normal and a laptop keyboard apart from the lacking
> > keypad?
>
> Other lacking keys and dupl
On Tue, 2003-08-12 at 00:34, Andreas Wüst wrote:
>
> I wonder if there's really a need for a laptop variant. What is the
> difference between a normal and a laptop keyboard apart from the lacking
> keypad?
Other lacking keys and duplicate keys, for example.
--
Earthling Michel Dänzer \ Deb
> > Option "XkbSymbols" "de_CH+group(switch)"
>
> Ahh, well, I did (and YES, I did deactivate my .Xmodmap first), but,
> uhhm, this has to be the so called make-fun-at-your-co-workers-option,
> no? ;)
>
> But serious, the effect was quite interesting. No keys except the number
> keys were w
Hi Frank
Thanks a lot for your help!
On Tue, 2003-08-12 at 10:28, Frank Murphy wrote:
> > Aha, I see. But, hmm, this doesn't seem to be a laptop specific problem,
> > no? I have to be honest, I don't understand the Mode_switch problem
> > anyway. When using the stock settings, i.e.
> >
> >
> Aha, I see. But, hmm, this doesn't seem to be a laptop specific problem,
> no? I have to be honest, I don't understand the Mode_switch problem
> anyway. When using the stock settings, i.e.
>
> Option "XkbRules" "xfree86"
> Option "XkbModel" "macintosh"
Hi Andreas
On Mon, 2003-08-11 at 19:33, Andreas Tobler wrote:
> Michel Dänzer wrote:
> > On Sun, 2003-08-10 at 14:20, Andreas Wüst wrote:
> >
> >>I just ask myself why the Mode_switch key is not working out of the box
> >>(well, of course I know why, because it is not mapped to any key, but
> >>
Hi Michel
On Mon, 2003-08-11 at 18:43, Michel Dänzer wrote:
> On Sun, 2003-08-10 at 14:20, Andreas Wüst wrote:
> >
> > I just ask myself why the Mode_switch key is not working out of the box
> > (well, of course I know why, because it is not mapped to any key, but
> > why is this so)??
>
> Beca
Michel Dänzer wrote:
On Sun, 2003-08-10 at 14:20, Andreas Wüst wrote:
I just ask myself why the Mode_switch key is not working out of the box
(well, of course I know why, because it is not mapped to any key, but
why is this so)??
Because nobody has bothered yet to fix the keymaps / create va
On Sun, 2003-08-10 at 14:20, Andreas Wüst wrote:
>
> I just ask myself why the Mode_switch key is not working out of the box
> (well, of course I know why, because it is not mapped to any key, but
> why is this so)??
Because nobody has bothered yet to fix the keymaps / create variants
better suit
Hi
On Fri, 2003-08-08 at 19:14, Andreas Wüst wrote:
> Hi Markus
>
> Thanks a lot for your fast answer!!
>
> On Fri, 2003-08-08 at 14:43, Markus Frauenfelder wrote:
>
> > Hello
> >
> > Andreas Wüst hat mal (am Fri, Aug 08, 2003 at 02:22:37PM +0200) gesagt:
> > > I would be very thankful if so
Hi Markus
Thanks a lot for your fast answer!!
On Fri, 2003-08-08 at 14:43, Markus Frauenfelder wrote:
> Hello
>
> Andreas Wüst hat mal (am Fri, Aug 08, 2003 at 02:22:37PM +0200) gesagt:
> > I would be very thankful if someone could post his XF86Config-4
> > regarding swiss german keyboards, an
Hello
Andreas Wüst hat mal (am Fri, Aug 08, 2003 at 02:22:37PM +0200) gesagt:
> I would be very thankful if someone could post his XF86Config-4
> regarding swiss german keyboards, and hint about other modifications.
I guess you are looking for this:
Option "XkbRules" "xfree
Hi
Thanks to a stupidity of mine I had to reinstall on my TiBook I.
Unfortunately, I hadn't had the chance to backup my config files before,
so I lost everything. Since it's a long time ago, I forgot how I
configured my keyboard for use with the x window system, i.e. to be able
to reach the at, ha
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