Re: Test-DFS for PowerPC

2004-06-09 Thread Robert Jordens
Hello! [Wed, 09 Jun 2004] John Goerzen wrote: > Robert and I sync up trees frequently. If you're working on PowerPC > stuff, it makes sense for you to use Robert's tree. (Robert, do please > drop me an e-mail if you notice I haven't synced with you for awhile and > there's stuff to go in.) Sure

Re: Test-DFS for PowerPC

2004-06-09 Thread John Goerzen
On Wed, Jun 09, 2004 at 01:07:01AM +0200, Robert Jordens wrote: > > No, the dfsbuild packages modified to build the powerpc version, (the > > source package of the -rj* versions) ? > > The Source is under Arch: > > dfsbuild--jordens--0.5 > > If

Re: Test-DFS for PowerPC

2004-06-08 Thread Sven Luther
On Wed, Jun 09, 2004 at 01:07:01AM +0200, Robert Jordens wrote: > Hello! > > [Tue, 08 Jun 2004] Sven Luther wrote: > > > should work, right? How is /usr/lib/kernel-image-version generated? > > > > It is contained in the kernel-image, together with the modules and the > > kernel, so you just get t

Re: Test-DFS for PowerPC

2004-06-08 Thread Robert Jordens
Hello! [Tue, 08 Jun 2004] Sven Luther wrote: > > should work, right? How is /usr/lib/kernel-image-version generated? > > It is contained in the kernel-image, together with the modules and the > kernel, so you just get them at the same time. Eventually, you unpack > the kernel-imahe somewhere, and

Re: Test-DFS for PowerPC

2004-06-07 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, Jun 07, 2004 at 07:06:38PM +0200, Robert Jordens wrote: > Hello! > > [Sat, 05 Jun 2004] Sven Luther wrote: > > Robert, could you please add the code to generate the non pmac images > > also ? You need : > > > > 1) access to the vmlinux kernel (i suppose you get it from the > > kernel-

Re: Test-DFS for PowerPC

2004-06-07 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, Jun 07, 2004 at 11:25:01AM -0500, John Goerzen wrote: > On Mon, Jun 07, 2004 at 06:13:56PM +0200, Robert Jordens wrote: > > > > [Mon, 07 Jun 2004] John Goerzen wrote: > > > I should add that I view dfsbuild as a far more useful tool than the > > > custom remastering hack that Knoppix uses.

Re: Test-DFS for PowerPC

2004-06-07 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, Jun 07, 2004 at 10:27:27AM -0500, John Goerzen wrote: > On Mon, Jun 07, 2004 at 05:06:27PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > > reimplementation using the discover database), as the debian-installer > > does. > > Well, the purposes of DFS and of debian-installer are a little > different. > > DFS

Re: Test-DFS for PowerPC

2004-06-07 Thread Robert Jordens
Hello! [Sat, 05 Jun 2004] Sven Luther wrote: > Robert, could you please add the code to generate the non pmac images > also ? You need : > > 1) access to the vmlinux kernel (i suppose you get it from the > kernel-image-2.6.6-powerpc, right ?). > 2) access to the initrd. > 3) access to /us

Re: Test-DFS for PowerPC

2004-06-07 Thread John Goerzen
On Mon, Jun 07, 2004 at 06:13:56PM +0200, Robert Jordens wrote: > > [Mon, 07 Jun 2004] John Goerzen wrote: > > I should add that I view dfsbuild as a far more useful tool than the > > custom remastering hack that Knoppix uses. dfsbuild is scriptable and > > does its entire job without any user in

Re: Test-DFS for PowerPC

2004-06-07 Thread John Goerzen
On Mon, Jun 07, 2004 at 10:58:02AM -0500, John Goerzen wrote: > dfsbuild is already very far along that path, with the sets of packages > (save for the base system) fully configurable, kernels configurable too, > etc. I should add that I view dfsbuild as a far more useful tool than the custom rema

Re: Test-DFS for PowerPC

2004-06-07 Thread John Goerzen
On Mon, Jun 07, 2004 at 05:49:02PM +0200, Robert Jordens wrote: > > DFS kernels also omit things that are not necessary for > > installation/repair work. For instance, sound and video4linux are > > completely disabled. The DFS kernels are here to give people a live, > > working system to use to r

Re: Test-DFS for PowerPC

2004-06-07 Thread Robert Jordens
Hello! [Mon, 07 Jun 2004] John Goerzen wrote: > Yes. I agree! In fact, that's why I started the project. I guess it's > a little confusing to use DFS to refer both to the "standard" DFS ISOs > and to the build system. > > dfsbuild is already very far along that path, with the sets of packages

Re: Test-DFS for PowerPC

2004-06-07 Thread Robert Jordens
Hello! [Mon, 07 Jun 2004] John Goerzen wrote: > DFS explicitly does *not* do hardware autodetection on boot, though it > prints out a message on boot telling the user how to run discover or > hotplug. The reason is that, as a recovery tool, you may not want to > attempt this discovery (and that c

Re: Test-DFS for PowerPC

2004-06-07 Thread John Goerzen
On Mon, Jun 07, 2004 at 05:06:27PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > reimplementation using the discover database), as the debian-installer > does. Well, the purposes of DFS and of debian-installer are a little different. DFS explicitly does *not* do hardware autodetection on boot, though it prints out

Re: Test-DFS for PowerPC

2004-06-07 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, Jun 07, 2004 at 08:14:18AM -0500, John Goerzen wrote: > On Mon, Jun 07, 2004 at 06:40:12AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > > > Bad, bad, bad. You are doing "boot cd:,\boot\yaboot" from OF, right? > > > (its not \install as on regular debian cds). > > > > Yeah, directly copied from your other m

Re: Test-DFS for PowerPC

2004-06-07 Thread John Goerzen
On Mon, Jun 07, 2004 at 06:40:12AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > > Bad, bad, bad. You are doing "boot cd:,\boot\yaboot" from OF, right? > > (its not \install as on regular debian cds). > > Yeah, directly copied from your other mail. I had trouble finding the > back-/ at first, as it seems to be inex

Re: Test-DFS for PowerPC

2004-06-06 Thread Sven Luther
On Sat, Jun 05, 2004 at 09:32:10PM +0200, Robert Jordens wrote: > Hello! > > [Sat, 05 Jun 2004] Sven Luther wrote: > > And finally, i have 0.6.4-rj3, and it refuses to boot on my ibook, > > either by using the c key or by launching yaboot from the OF. IT speaks > > about MAC-PART or something such

Re: Test-DFS for PowerPC

2004-06-06 Thread Robert Jordens
Hello! [Sat, 05 Jun 2004] Sven Luther wrote: > And finally, i have 0.6.4-rj3, and it refuses to boot on my ibook, > either by using the c key or by launching yaboot from the OF. IT speaks > about MAC-PART or something such not finding a filesystem. Bad, bad, bad. You are doing "boot cd:,\boot\yab

Re: Test-DFS for PowerPC

2004-06-05 Thread Robert Jordens
Hello! [Sat, 05 Jun 2004] Sven Luther wrote: > Well, you mean it only refuses to boot when you insert the disk and old > the 'c' key ? Does yaboot show up ? I guess not, is the iso HFS blessed > or some other magic ? It doesnt boot into yaboot with just "c" on my PowerBook5,2 G4 Alu either. I ha

Re: Test-DFS for PowerPC

2004-06-05 Thread Sven Luther
On Sat, Jun 05, 2004 at 10:38:35AM -0700, Brad Boyer wrote: > On Sat, Jun 05, 2004 at 04:36:00PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > > On Sat, Jun 05, 2004 at 10:58:25AM +0200, Robert Jordens wrote: > > > [Sat, 05 Jun 2004] Sven Luther wrote: > > > > Also, i doubt it will work out of the box on old world,

Re: Test-DFS for PowerPC

2004-06-05 Thread Brad Boyer
On Sat, Jun 05, 2004 at 04:36:00PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > On Sat, Jun 05, 2004 at 10:58:25AM +0200, Robert Jordens wrote: > > [Sat, 05 Jun 2004] Sven Luther wrote: > > > Also, i doubt it will work out of the box on old world, Robert, what is > > > the kernel size, and could you include a miboo

Re: Test-DFS for PowerPC

2004-06-05 Thread david howe
fwiw This pismo boots the debian #1 cd with the "c" option. d On Sat, 2004-06-05 at 18:58, Robert Jordens wrote: > Hello! > > [Sat, 05 Jun 2004] david howe wrote: > > So far I can report that the disk fails to boot the following devices > > New World G3 Pismo Powerbook > > New World G3 Imac > >

Re: Test-DFS for PowerPC

2004-06-05 Thread Sven Luther
On Sat, Jun 05, 2004 at 10:58:25AM +0200, Robert Jordens wrote: > Hello! > > [Sat, 05 Jun 2004] david howe wrote: > > So far I can report that the disk fails to boot the following devices > > New World G3 Pismo Powerbook > > New World G3 Imac > > Old World 9600 ppc > > > > The disk appear as a va

Re: Test-DFS for PowerPC

2004-06-05 Thread Robert Jordens
Hello! [Sat, 05 Jun 2004] david howe wrote: > So far I can report that the disk fails to boot the following devices > New World G3 Pismo Powerbook > New World G3 Imac > Old World 9600 ppc > > The disk appear as a valid HFS standard disk on a MacOS desktop however > I can't provide any more info a

Re: Test-DFS for PowerPC

2004-06-05 Thread Sven Luther
On Sat, Jun 05, 2004 at 04:39:23PM +1000, david howe wrote: > I have downloaded the ppc iso today. > > So far I can report that the disk fails to boot the following devices > New World G3 Pismo Powerbook > New World G3 Imac > Old World 9600 ppc > > The disk appear as a valid HFS standard disk on

Re: Test-DFS for PowerPC

2004-06-05 Thread Sven Luther
On Sat, Jun 05, 2004 at 01:23:35AM +0200, Robert Jordens wrote: > Hello! > > John Goerzen and I have made Debian From Scratch (DFS) available for > PowerPC machines. You would do us a big favour if you could test this > first image and give suggestions. I only have my Powerbook G4 Alu > available

Re: Test-DFS for PowerPC

2004-06-05 Thread david howe
I have downloaded the ppc iso today. So far I can report that the disk fails to boot the following devices New World G3 Pismo Powerbook New World G3 Imac Old World 9600 ppc The disk appear as a valid HFS standard disk on a MacOS desktop however I can't provide any more info about the boot failure

Test-DFS for PowerPC

2004-06-04 Thread Robert Jordens
Hello! John Goerzen and I have made Debian From Scratch (DFS) available for PowerPC machines. You would do us a big favour if you could test this first image and give suggestions. I only have my Powerbook G4 Alu available as victim. Primary Location: Tem