Re: PowerMac G5 NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200

Hello! On Sun, 2023-04-09 at 08:49 -0600, Stan Johnson wrote: > Please add support in the default Debian kernel for the NVIDIA GeForce > FX 5200 graphics card for PowerMac G5 systems. Please file a bug report against src:linux CC'ing this mailing list or open a pull request with the changes again

Re: Powermac G5 Sid Grub

OK, answering my own question it appears this was just a case of the install media not fully working. > On 25 Jan 2022, at 17:43, Dan Whitehouse wrote: > > Hi, I’m having trouble installing Sid on my G5. > The issue is documented in this YouTube video: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-Ugfq

Re: Powermac G5

On 3/18/20 12:12 PM, Alessandro Pansera wrote: > Hi, i have a big problem with Lubuntu installation on my power PC (Macg5 > late 2005 GeForce 6600). Yaboot works but screen crashes but installer USB > keep blinking. Please help me I recommend using this image: > https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage

Re: Re: Powermac G5

Hello, At yaboot prompt, could you try type install64 instead of install? Thanks, Hao On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 4:30 AM Alessandro Pansera wrote: > Hi, i have a big problem with Lubuntu installation on my power PC (Macg5 > late 2005 GeForce 6600). Yaboot works but screen crashes but installer US

Re: Re: Powermac G5

Hi, i have a big problem with Lubuntu installation on my power PC (Macg5 late 2005 GeForce 6600). Yaboot works but screen crashes but installer USB keep blinking. Please help me

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel 4.17.0-3-powerpc64 but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

This all started because of this thing : https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/drivers/macintosh?id=3e7bed52719de4b5b5fb900869e293eae0bc3f3e Which gets referenced here : https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=199471 I still don't know if it works or

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel 4.17.0-3-powerpc64 but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

Adrian is right. Building a kernel for Debian isn‘t really difficult. I work for a first level Linux support and I can do it too. — Christian Sent from my iPhone > On 12. Oct 2018, at 16:39, Dennis Clarke wrote: > >> On 10/12/2018 10:28 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: >>> On 10/12/18 4:1

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel 4.17.0-3-powerpc64 but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

And, FWIW, we currently have a rather nasty linker bug on 32-bit PowerPC which needs to be tracked down and fixed. It prevents GHC and ffmpeg from being built. > https://buildd.debian.org/status/fetch.php?pkg=ghc&arch=powerpc&ver=8.6.1%2Bdfsg1-1&stamp=1538147985&raw=0 > https://buildd.debian.org/s

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel 4.17.0-3-powerpc64 but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

On 10/12/18 4:39 PM, Dennis Clarke wrote: >> Well, you can't really expect that someone will give you a full course ... > > Sure I can. Not really, no. Free software doesn't mean someone isn't working for free. >>> fakeroot ? >>> >>> That alone is something from the distant past that bothers me.

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel 4.17.0-3-powerpc64 but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

On 10/12/2018 10:28 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: On 10/12/18 4:10 PM, Dennis Clarke wrote: That page speaks of many things but clear instructions are not among them. That whole page speaks in riddles and strange incantations that don't really mean anything. The next full moon is 24th of

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel 4.17.0-3-powerpc64 but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

On 10/12/18 4:10 PM, Dennis Clarke wrote: > That page speaks of many things but clear instructions are not among them. > > That whole page speaks in riddles and strange incantations that don't > really mean anything. The next full moon is 24th of October and I > may be willing to give it a try. Ho

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel 4.17.0-3-powerpc64 but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

On 10/12/2018 04:16 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: On 10/12/18 9:54 AM, Rick Thomas wrote: How about this… You send me your detailed notes from making the kernel; There is extensive documentation on this topic available [1]. Adrian [1] https://kernel-team.pages.debian.net/kernel-han

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel 4.17.0-3-powerpc64 but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

On 10/12/18 9:54 AM, Rick Thomas wrote: > How about this… You send me your detailed notes from making the kernel; There is extensive documentation on this topic available [1]. Adrian > [1] > https://kernel-team.pages.debian.net/kernel-handbook/ch-common-tasks.html#s-common-official -- .''`.

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel 4.17.0-3-powerpc64 but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

Hi Dennis, Glad to hear you got it working! How about this… You send me your detailed notes from making the kernel; I’ll try to follow them and reproduce your results. If I have trouble I’ll ask you for clarification and we’ll incorporate those into the next rev of the notes. I’ll then try

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel 4.17.0-3-powerpc64 but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

On 08/25/2018 04:10 AM, Rick Thomas wrote: On Aug 24, 2018, at 9:26 PM, Dennis Clarke wrote: On 08/24/2018 09:31 PM, Rick Thomas wrote: I just loaded the latest Debian-ports powerpc64 installer ... From the better late than never pile. So I built and installed 4.18.12 twice. Documented wha

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel 4.17.0-3-powerpc64 but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

On 10/03/2018 03:52 AM, Rick Thomas wrote: On Oct 3, 2018, at 12:19 AM, Dennis Clarke wrote: I gather you have the 4-core version. Looks like just dual core. I don't think the IBM 970ppc was ever quad core. Sorry… I said “core” when I should have said “processor”. You have four processo

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel 4.17.0-3-powerpc64 but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

On Oct 3, 2018, at 12:19 AM, Dennis Clarke wrote: >> I gather you have the 4-core version. > > Looks like just dual core. I don't think the IBM 970ppc was ever quad core. Sorry… I said “core” when I should have said “processor”. You have four processors, divided over two sockets of two core

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel 4.17.0-3-powerpc64 but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

On 10/03/2018 02:35 AM, Rick Thomas wrote: Thanks for the reply, Dennis! On Oct 2, 2018, at 7:21 PM, Dennis Clarke wrote: On 09/24/2018 10:18 PM, Rick Thomas wrote: On Sep 21, 2018, at 9:51 AM, Dennis Clarke wrote: On 09/03/2018 04:42 AM, Wolfram Sang wrote: Merely a follow up. I hav

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel 4.17.0-3-powerpc64 but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

Thanks for the reply, Dennis! On Oct 2, 2018, at 7:21 PM, Dennis Clarke wrote: > On 09/24/2018 10:18 PM, Rick Thomas wrote: >> On Sep 21, 2018, at 9:51 AM, Dennis Clarke wrote: >>> On 09/03/2018 04:42 AM, Wolfram Sang wrote: > The bug is “status: NEEDINFO”, so I assume it’s not fixed yet.

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel 4.17.0-3-powerpc64 but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

On 09/24/2018 10:18 PM, Rick Thomas wrote: On Sep 21, 2018, at 9:51 AM, Dennis Clarke wrote: On 09/03/2018 04:42 AM, Wolfram Sang wrote: The bug is “status: NEEDINFO”, so I assume it’s not fixed yet. In the meantime, manually loading the windfarm modules is a tested workaround. Does this wo

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel 4.17.0-3-powerpc64 but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

On Sep 21, 2018, at 9:51 AM, Dennis Clarke wrote: > On 09/03/2018 04:42 AM, Wolfram Sang wrote: >>> The bug is “status: NEEDINFO”, so I assume it’s not fixed yet. In the >>> meantime, manually loading the windfarm modules is a tested workaround. >> Does this workaround work for you, too? >> "

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel 4.17.0-3-powerpc64 but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

On 09/03/2018 04:42 AM, Wolfram Sang wrote: The bug is “status: NEEDINFO”, so I assume it’s not fixed yet. In the meantime, manually loading the windfarm modules is a tested workaround. Does this workaround work for you, too? "However, there is a workaround: In addition to CONFIG_I2C_POWER

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel 4.17.0-3-powerpc64 but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

On 09/04/2018 05:29 PM, Dennis Clarke wrote: > I have a DVI-to-VGA adapter on the back of the test G5 here and that is > not enough. I think yaboot is the problem and GRUB is needed.  However > GRUB doesn't seem to exist for ppc64.  So an old server type monitor is > left attached to the G5 for now

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel 4.17.0-3-powerpc64 but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

On 09/04/2018 05:23 PM, Dennis Clarke wrote: > Building and installing a kernel isn't that difficult but the creation >  of a ".deb" package is a mystery to me. This is actually documented, see: > https://kernel-team.pages.debian.net/kernel-handbook/ch-common-tasks.html#s-common-official -- .'

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel 4.17.0-3-powerpc64 but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

On 09/04/2018 03:53 AM, Michel Dänzer wrote: On 2018-09-03 9:43 p.m., Dennis Clarke wrote: Seems to work fine so long as there is a monitor attached at boot time. If there isn't then the whole system goes into loud windfarm mode and is a warm brick. This is due to yaboot's ofboot.b script han

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel 4.17.0-3-powerpc64 but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

On 09/04/2018 02:42 AM, Rick Thomas wrote: Sadly, I don’t have the expertise to build a patched kernel. If you can point me to a patched kernel .deb file, I’ll be happy to install it and report on the results. Building and installing a kernel isn't that difficult but the creation of a ".de

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel 4.17.0-3-powerpc64 but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

On 2018-09-03 9:43 p.m., Dennis Clarke wrote: > > Seems to work fine so long as there is a monitor attached at boot time. > If there isn't then the whole system goes into loud windfarm mode and is > a warm brick. This is due to yaboot's ofboot.b script hanging if no display connection is detected

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel 4.17.0-3-powerpc64 but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

Sadly, I don’t have the expertise to build a patched kernel. If you can point me to a patched kernel .deb file, I’ll be happy to install it and report on the results. Thanks! Rick On Sep 3, 2018, at 1:42 AM, Wolfram Sang wrote: > >> The bug is “status: NEEDINFO”, so I assume it’s not fixed

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel 4.17.0-3-powerpc64 but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

On 09/03/2018 03:51 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: On 9/3/18 9:43 PM, Dennis Clarke wrote: Seems to work fine so long as there is a monitor attached at boot time. If there isn't then the whole system goes into loud windfarm mode and is a warm brick. Did you test the patch by Wolfram? Ad

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel 4.17.0-3-powerpc64 but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

On 9/3/18 9:43 PM, Dennis Clarke wrote: > Seems to work fine so long as there is a monitor attached at boot time. > If there isn't then the whole system goes into loud windfarm mode and is > a warm brick. Did you test the patch by Wolfram? Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Deb

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel 4.17.0-3-powerpc64 but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

On 09/03/2018 04:42 AM, Wolfram Sang wrote: The bug is “status: NEEDINFO”, so I assume it’s not fixed yet. In the meantime, manually loading the windfarm modules is a tested workaround. Does this workaround work for you, too? "However, there is a workaround: In addition to CONFIG_I2C_POWER

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel 4.17.0-3-powerpc64 but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

> The bug is “status: NEEDINFO”, so I assume it’s not fixed yet. In the > meantime, manually loading the windfarm modules is a tested workaround. Does this workaround work for you, too? "However, there is a workaround: In addition to CONFIG_I2C_POWERMAC=y you need to compile "Device Drivers →

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel 4.17.0-3-powerpc64 but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

On Sep 2, 2018, at 11:08 PM, Mathieu Malaterre wrote: > On Sat, Aug 25, 2018 at 3:41 AM Rick Thomas wrote: >> >> >> I just loaded the latest Debian-ports powerpc64 installer on a PowerMac >> dual-core G5 that I had lying around. >> >> It installed kernel 4.16.0-1-powerpc64 from the CD. Af

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel 4.17.0-3-powerpc64 but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

On Sat, Aug 25, 2018 at 3:41 AM Rick Thomas wrote: > > > I just loaded the latest Debian-ports powerpc64 installer on a PowerMac > dual-core G5 that I had lying around. > > It installed kernel 4.16.0-1-powerpc64 from the CD. After the install > finished, I did an update/upgrade and that install

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel4.17.0-3-powerpc64but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 11:40 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > Well, you have to add the experimental distribution to your sources.list > if you want to be able to install packages from the experimental > distribution :-). > > See: https://people.debian.org/~glaubitz/sources.list.experimenta

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel4.17.0-3-powerpc64but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

On 8/28/18 10:00 PM, Dennis Clarke wrote: > root@nix:~# grep -v "^#" /etc/apt/sources.list > deb http://ftp.ports.debian.org/debian-ports/ unstable main > deb http://ftp.ports.debian.org/debian-ports/ unreleased main > deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ unstable main > > root@nix:~# apt install

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel4.17.0-3-powerpc64but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

On 08/27/2018 09:53 PM, Rick Thomas wrote: I can try just about anything on my G5. It exists strictly for testing, right now. If you can point me to a .deb with the patch that I can install, I’ll be happy to test it. That code seems to be a G4 related item : /* * Creation Date: <2003/

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel 4.17.0-3-powerpc64 but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

> On Aug 27, 2018, at 9:44 PM, Rick Thomas wrote: > > >> On Aug 27, 2018, at 6:54 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz >> wrote: >> >> On 8/25/18 10:54 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: 2) Firefox segfaults when I start it, either from command line or from the system menu. Is this a

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel 4.17.0-3-powerpc64 but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

> On Aug 27, 2018, at 6:54 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz > wrote: > > On 8/25/18 10:54 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: >>> 2) Firefox segfaults when I start it, either from command line or from the >>> system menu. Is this a known bug? Are there any other graphical (i.e., >>> non-tex

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel 4.17.0-3-powerpc64 but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

On 8/25/18 10:54 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: >> 2) Firefox segfaults when I start it, either from command line or from the >> system menu. Is this a known bug? Are there any other graphical (i.e., >> non-text-mode) browsers I can use instead? I can use elinks for most >> things, but

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel4.17.0-3-powerpc64but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

I can try just about anything on my G5. It exists strictly for testing, right now. If you can point me to a .deb with the patch that I can install, I’ll be happy to test it. Rick > On Aug 27, 2018, at 6:41 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz > wrote: > > On 8/28/18 3:36 AM, John Paul Adrian Gla

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel4.17.0-3-powerpc64but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

On 8/28/18 3:36 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > You can try to figure out what the actual change was. So, for example, if you > find out what in the windfarm module configuration has changed, I can open a > merge request for the linux kernel package on salsa.debian.org which is > actually >

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel4.17.0-3-powerpc64but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

On 8/28/18 3:28 AM, Rick Thomas wrote: > Thanks for the explanation. Can I assume that you will be following up on > this? If not, I’ll understand — bandwidth is in short supply for all of us. > Should I file a bug report — if so, to what package? Sadly, I don’t have the > expertise to follo

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel4.17.0-3-powerpc64but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

> On Aug 27, 2018, at 1:34 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz > wrote: > >> >> If it is a bug, it’s a minor one, and it’s easily worked around by the >> addition to /etc/modules. But I’m curious to know what changed? If it is a >> name change, as Adrian suggests, I’m curious to know what chang

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel 4.17.0-3-powerpc64 but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

On 08/27/2018 05:18 AM, Bas Vermeulen wrote: Hi Dennis, Your modules aren't stripped, which is what causes the huge initrd. Try: make INSTALL_MOD_STRIP=1 modules_install instead of make modules_install to fix this. A switch to just the required "dep" modules resulted in a small enough initrd

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel4.17.0-3-powerpc64 but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

On Sun, Aug 26, 2018 at 2:15 PM Linux User #330250 wrote: > > Am 26.08.18 um 14:07 schrieb Frank Scheiner: > > On 08/26/2018 01:35 PM, Linux User #330250 wrote: > >> Am 26.08.18 um 12:48 schrieb John Paul Adrian Glaubitz: > >>> One of the most pressing problems on Debian powerpc/ppc64 is > >>> the

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel 4.17.0-3-powerpc64 but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

Hi Dennis, Your modules aren't stripped, which is what causes the huge initrd. Try: make INSTALL_MOD_STRIP=1 modules_install instead of make modules_install to fix this. Bas Vermeulen

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel4.17.0-3-powerpc64but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

> On Aug 27, 2018, at 10:11 AM, Rick Thomas wrote: > > >> On Aug 26, 2018, at 1:25 AM, Mark G.B. wrote: >> >> Hi Rick and everyone, >> >> It’s a bug (IMHO). Feel free to correct me if I’m wrong, though. >> >> Attached here are two images of the Debian-powerpc64 specific kernel-config >>

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel4.17.0-3-powerpc64but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

On Aug 26, 2018, at 1:25 AM, Mark G.B. wrote: > Hi Rick and everyone, > > It’s a bug (IMHO). Feel free to correct me if I’m wrong, though. > > Attached here are two images of the Debian-powerpc64 specific kernel-config > extracted from the .deb package of the Linux-image package off of >

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel 4.17.0-3-powerpc64 but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

On 08/25/2018 04:10 AM, Rick Thomas wrote: On Aug 24, 2018, at 9:26 PM, Dennis Clarke wrote: On 08/24/2018 09:31 PM, Rick Thomas wrote: I just loaded the latest Debian-ports powerpc64 installer on a PowerMac dual-core G5 that I had lying around. Have a look around for something called "wi

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel 4.17.0-3-powerpc64 but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

Now, the question is: Why? What has changed between 4.16 and 4.17 that makes this necessary? And, is it a bug or a feature? To finally get back to you about this "windfarm" business I can tell you that an out-of-the-box build of the latest stable kernel results in all the expected windfa

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel4.17.0-3-powerpc64 but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

Why would I want to through out working computers and replace them with new ones, just because the new ones happen to be little endian? I have no such desire. I have ppc64 and arm7 boxes laying about for experimental reasons as well as educational reasons. Dennis

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel4.17.0-3-powerpc64 but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

On 08/26/2018 02:15 PM, Linux User #330250 wrote: What is this tool that is missing? A working device-to-ofpath translator. Thanks, but why use ofpath when GRUB2 core.elf can figure that out all by itself without the use of open firmware stuff? Just use the UUID of the partition where the sec

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel4.17.0-3-powerpc64 but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

Hi! On 8/26/18 2:15 PM, Linux User #330250 wrote: > Thanks, but why use ofpath when GRUB2 core.elf can figure that out all > by itself without the use of open firmware stuff? Just use the UUID of > the partition where the second main GRUB2 is installed, and use the > first GRUB2 only as the first

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel4.17.0-3-powerpc64 but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

Am 26.08.18 um 14:07 schrieb Frank Scheiner: > On 08/26/2018 01:35 PM, Linux User #330250 wrote: >> Am 26.08.18 um 12:48 schrieb John Paul Adrian Glaubitz: >>> One of the most pressing problems on Debian powerpc/ppc64 is >>> the deprecation of Yaboot. Yaboot is completely unmaintained these >>> day

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel4.17.0-3-powerpc64 but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

On 08/26/2018 01:35 PM, Linux User #330250 wrote: Am 26.08.18 um 12:48 schrieb John Paul Adrian Glaubitz: One of the most pressing problems on Debian powerpc/ppc64 is the deprecation of Yaboot. Yaboot is completely unmaintained these days and should have been replaced with GRUB long time ago. I

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel4.17.0-3-powerpc64 but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

Am 26.08.18 um 13:38 schrieb Dennis Clarke: > There is a branch of computer hobby game playing which is > more or less similar to the job description of a museum curator. Only of > far less significance. I still have a DEC AlphaSERVER tucked away in the > back of a warehouse and if I were to drag t

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel4.17.0-3-powerpc64 but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

On 08/26/2018 07:08 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: On 8/26/18 1:06 PM, Dennis Clarke wrote: Everyone knows that we are more or less doing retro-computing here ... Thank you for giving it a name.  Retro-computing.  Very cute. Are you being sarcastic? Not at all. Not in the least. I

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel4.17.0-3-powerpc64 but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

Am 26.08.18 um 12:48 schrieb John Paul Adrian Glaubitz: > One of the most pressing problems on Debian powerpc/ppc64 is > the deprecation of Yaboot. Yaboot is completely unmaintained these days and > should > have been replaced with GRUB long time ago. If you install Debian > powerpc/ppc64 on > an

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel4.17.0-3-powerpc64 but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

On 8/26/18 1:06 PM, Dennis Clarke wrote: > >> Everyone knows that we are more or less doing retro-computing here ... > > Thank you for giving it a name.  Retro-computing.  Very cute. Are you being sarcastic? -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glaub...@debian.org `.

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel4.17.0-3-powerpc64 but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

> Everyone knows that we are more or less doing retro-computing here ... Thank you for giving it a name. Retro-computing. Very cute. dc

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel4.17.0-3-powerpc64 but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

On 8/26/18 12:51 PM, Dennis Clarke wrote: > >> Again, too much ranting. If you think all is lost and putting efforts >> in Debian Ports is pointless, you're in the wrong forum. > > Efforts in debian ports isn't pointless. One should make a distinction > between working with a platform with a futu

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel4.17.0-3-powerpc64 but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

Again, too much ranting. If you think all is lost and putting efforts in Debian Ports is pointless, you're in the wrong forum. Efforts in debian ports isn't pointless. One should make a distinction between working with a platform with a future and a platform from the past. Dennis

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel4.17.0-3-powerpc64 but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

On 8/26/18 7:51 AM, Rick Thomas wrote: > The pre 4.x kernel “i2c_powermac” fix came from an old email on this list — I > don’t remember who it was from. It seemed to be common knowledge on the list > at the time — common enough that making the module built-in with the 4.x > powerpc64 kernels wa

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel4.17.0-3-powerpc64 but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

On 8/26/18 10:53 AM, Dennis Clarke wrote: > The real problem is that we are running a dead platform. At the very > least it is being walked up to the hangmans platform. The world seems > to want little endian everywhere and ppc64el on at least POWER8 hardware > is a firm requirement for Debian.  Wh

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel 4.17.0-3-powerpc64 but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

Make sure you build initrd with MODULES=dep and not "all" modules via /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/* or in /etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf as well CONFIG_DEBUG_INFO=n in kernel config. I usually trim down the config to the minimal and then merely throw "make modules_install" after t

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel 4.17.0-3-powerpc64 but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

On Sun, Aug 26, 2018 at 4:35 AM, Dennis Clarke wrote: > On 08/25/2018 06:41 PM, Rick Thomas wrote: > nix# pwd > /boot > nix# ls -lapb > total 533676 > drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Aug 26 01:26 ./ > drwxr-xr-x 23 root root 4096 Oct 22 2017 ../ > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4091837 Mar 20 0

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel4.17.0-3-powerpc64 but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

rbthomas@kmac:~$ cat /proc/cpuinfo processor : 0 cpu : PPC970FX, altivec supported clock : 2000.00MHz revision: 3.0 (pvr 003c 0300) processor : 1 cpu : PPC970FX, altivec supported clock : 2000.00MHz revision: 3.0 (

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel4.17.0-3-powerpc64 but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

Hi Mark! On Aug 25, 2018, at 8:52 PM, Mark G.B. wrote: > Hello Rick and other PMac users, > > What kind of Powermac are you running the 4.17 kernel on? 11,2? 11,2 btw, I > believe is the G5 Quad-core. Even with your reply, I may not come to a > definitive conclusion. I will have to do some r

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel 4.17.0-3-powerpc64 but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

On 08/25/2018 06:41 PM, Rick Thomas wrote: On Aug 25, 2018, at 7:54 AM, Dennis Clarke wrote: The bucket of things I see back on 4.15.0 are : 4.15.0-2-powerpc64@nix# uname -a Linux nix 4.15.0-2-powerpc64 #1 SMP Debian 4.15.11-1 (2018-03-20) ppc64 GNU/Linux 4.15.0-2-powerpc64@nix# lsmod | gre

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel 4.17.0-3-powerpc64 but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

On Aug 25, 2018, at 7:54 AM, Dennis Clarke wrote: > The bucket of things I see back on 4.15.0 are : > > 4.15.0-2-powerpc64@nix# uname -a > Linux nix 4.15.0-2-powerpc64 #1 SMP Debian 4.15.11-1 (2018-03-20) ppc64 > GNU/Linux > 4.15.0-2-powerpc64@nix# lsmod | grep -i "farm" > windfarm_cpufreq_cl

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel 4.17.0-3-powerpc64 but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

On 08/25/2018 04:10 AM, Rick Thomas wrote: On Aug 24, 2018, at 9:26 PM, Dennis Clarke wrote: On 08/24/2018 09:31 PM, Rick Thomas wrote: I just loaded the latest Debian-ports powerpc64 installer on a PowerMac dual-core G5 that I had lying around. It installed kernel 4.16.0-1-powerpc64 from t

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel 4.17.0-3-powerpc64 but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

On Aug 25, 2018, at 1:54 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: >> 2) Firefox segfaults when I start it, either from command line or from the >> system menu. Is this a known bug? Are there any other graphical (i.e., >> non-text-mode) browsers I can use instead? I can use elinks for most >

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel 4.17.0-3-powerpc64 but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

Hi! On mobile, excuse my brevity. > On Aug 25, 2018, at 10:10 AM, Rick Thomas wrote: > > Other things I have observed about this installation: > > 1) I can’t install the “printer-driver-postscript-hp” package, because the > “libsane” package is missing. Is this an oversight that will be fixe

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel 4.17.0-3-powerpc64 but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

On Aug 24, 2018, at 9:26 PM, Dennis Clarke wrote: > On 08/24/2018 09:31 PM, Rick Thomas wrote: >> I just loaded the latest Debian-ports powerpc64 installer on a PowerMac >> dual-core G5 that I had lying around. >> It installed kernel 4.16.0-1-powerpc64 from the CD. After the install >> finis

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel 4.17.0-3-powerpc64 but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

On 08/24/2018 09:31 PM, Rick Thomas wrote: I just loaded the latest Debian-ports powerpc64 installer on a PowerMac dual-core G5 that I had lying around. It installed kernel 4.16.0-1-powerpc64 from the CD. After the install finished, I did an update/upgrade and that installed kernel 4.17.0-3-

Re: PowerMac G5 and KMS

Set up SSH tunneling with X11 forwarding. On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 9:38 AM, Hiroo Ono (小野寛生) < hiroo.ono+free...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thank you. > > Just unconditionally disabling AGP in R300 initialization made > radeonkms to load successfully. > It seems that no tunables for FreeBSD are described

Re: PowerMac G5 and KMS

Thank you. Just unconditionally disabling AGP in R300 initialization made radeonkms to load successfully. It seems that no tunables for FreeBSD are described instead of MODULE_PARM_DESC and module_param_named. So, I have to learn how to add them to the source code. (/usr/src/sys/dev/drm2/os_freebs

Re: PowerMac G5 and KMS

Per the radeon man page *here . *However this option has been removed after 10.2. Under Linux the you set it in yaboot bootloader by using 'radeon.agpmode=-1'. I do not know if this will

Re: PowerMac G5 and KMS

Thank you. I see the point. 2017-03-05 17:20 GMT+09:00 Herminio Hernandez Jr. : > Try to force the Radeon driver into PCI mode. Under Linux doing this stops > the blank screen and locks. Could anyone tell me how to do it? Can it be done from FreeBSD? I googled a little but could not find anything

Re: PowerMac G5 and KMS

On 2017-Mar-4, at 10:50 PM, Joe Nosay wrote: > This will bounce for the ppc list. > As I have stated before: you will need to work with the debian ppc group to > create the proper drivers. > Since there are people who know how to make the Linux system calls, there > should be people that are wi

Re: PowerMac G5 and KMS

Try to force the Radeon driver into PCI mode. Under Linux doing this stops the blank screen and locks. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 4, 2017, at 11:50 PM, Joe Nosay wrote: > > This will bounce for the ppc list. > As I have stated before: you will need to work with the debian ppc group to > cr

Re: PowerMac G5 and KMS

This will bounce for the ppc list. As I have stated before: you will need to work with the debian ppc group to create the proper drivers. Since there are people who know how to make the Linux system calls, there should be people that are willing to work across OS and mailing list lines. Just don't

Re: Powermac G5 7,2 Nvidia GeForce 6800 GT graphics issues

The other reason for using Peter's kernel is the page size. The official kernels use 64 k pages that do not work with nouveau. Risto

Re: Powermac G5 7,2 Nvidia GeForce 6800 GT graphics issues

Hi, On Sat, Mar 26, 2016 at 5:48 PM, Scott Thompson wrote: > l have installed Jessie 8.0.0 on this Powermac G5 7,2 with an Nvidia GeForce > 6800 GT, next I installed Peter Saisanas' 4.5.0-rc2 kernel. Finally I > upgraded to testing. > > > When I boot and ssh into the machine I get this at the end

Re: Powermac G5 - flash

Very necessary on Powerbook G4 - FanControl! http://jurriaandevos.nl/control-ibook-g4-temperature-with-g4fancontrol/ Am Feb 13, 2016 um 1:34 PM schrieb Richard Kuenz : > This here is for Facebook > > > https://68kmla.org/forums/index.php?/topic/23619-flash-version-16-for-powerpc/ > > > >

Re: Powermac G5 - flash

This here is for Facebook https://68kmla.org/forums/index.php?/topic/23619-flash-version-16-for-powerpc/ Am Feb 13, 2016 um 1:33 PM schrieb Richard Kuenz : > > Am Feb 13, 2016 um 1:19 PM schrieb Riccardo Mottola > : > >> Hi, >> >> On 02/12/16 12:52, Richard Kuenz wrote: >>> >>> HTML5

Re: Powermac G5 - flash

Am Feb 13, 2016 um 1:19 PM schrieb Riccardo Mottola : > Hi, > > On 02/12/16 12:52, Richard Kuenz wrote: >> >> HTML5 is very bothering i think because it consumes a lot of energy. > > I found out that too HTML5 playback is almost unusable even on the fastest > 1.6GHz G4 under mac where Graph

Re: Powermac G5 - flash

Hi, On 02/12/16 12:52, Richard Kuenz wrote: HTML5 is very bothering i think because it consumes a lot of energy. I found out that too HTML5 playback is almost unusable even on the fastest 1.6GHz G4 under mac where Graphics is already better than linux (TenFourFox) and also on a dual-core I

Re: Powermac G5 - youtube video - SOLVED

m: csae2...@uibk.ac.at > > To: cl...@clivemenzies.co.uk > > CC: debian-powerpc@lists.debian.org > > Subject: Re: Powermac G5 - youtube video - SOLVED > > > > Only thing is, with these solution you block out "Subtitles" option or " > > captions or CC . this is as f

RE: Powermac G5 - youtube video - SOLVED

Confirmed working on Quad G5 with RadeonHD too . I can see again 1080p youtube video in html5! Luigi > Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2016 16:18:54 +0100 > From: csae2...@uibk.ac.at > To: cl...@clivemenzies.co.uk > CC: debian-powerpc@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: Powermac G5 - youtube

Re: Powermac G5 - flash

On 12/02/16 16:29, Chris Wareham wrote: On 12 February 2016 at 12:15 Clive Menzies wrote: Hi Chris I've got these and grepped apt-cache gstrreamer for mozilla/html but couldn't find anything. Any idea of what may be missing? There seem to be loads of them. clive@Pandora:~$ dpkg -l | grep gstr

Re: Powermac G5 - flash

On 12 February 2016 at 12:15 Clive Menzies wrote: > > Hi Chris > > I've got these and grepped apt-cache gstrreamer for mozilla/html but > couldn't find anything. Any idea of what may be missing? There seem to > be loads of them. > > clive@Pandora:~$ dpkg -l | grep gstreamer > ii gstreamer0.1

Re: Powermac G5 - youtube video - SOLVED

Only thing is, with these solution you block out "Subtitles" option or " captions or CC . this is as far as i know only possible with flash or html5. correct me please if i am wrong thanks rich Clive Menzies schrieb: Thanks Rich I had vlc but not browser-plugin-vlc gecko-mediaplayer isn't

Re: Powermac G5 - youtube video - SOLVED

Thanks Rich I had vlc but not browser-plugin-vlc gecko-mediaplayer isn't in stretch but I installed it from jessie. Still no joy on youtube videos. spinning disc in the middle of the frame as though the stream is trying to download. Same result with html5. However, I disabled html5 according

Re: Powermac G5 - flash

On 12/02/16 09:18, Chris Wareham wrote: Hi Clive, YouTube should just work these days, since it falls back to using a HTML5 player. If it's not doing that automatically then you can go to the following page to check: https://www.youtube.com/html5?gl=GB I think you may need some extra gstreamer

Re: Powermac G5 - flash

HTML5 is very bothering i think because it consumes a lot of energy. you can disable automatic playback of it by going to in firefox type about:config (in statusbar) then click "OK" search for "webm" (again in statusbar) disable automatic playback webm content or so. id try to use

Re: Powermac G5 - flash

On 12/02/16 09:18, Chris Wareham wrote: Hi Clive, YouTube should just work these days, since it falls back to using a HTML5 player. If it's not doing that automatically then you can go to the following page to check: https://www.youtube.com/html5?gl=GB I think you may need some extra gstreamer

Re: Powermac G5 - flash

Hi Clive, YouTube should just work these days, since it falls back to using a HTML5 player. If it's not doing that automatically then you can go to the following page to check: https://www.youtube.com/html5?gl=GB I think you may need some extra gstreamer plugins installed if it show you don't ha

Re: Powermac G5 - flash

Thanks Rich I'll try these. Regards Clive On 11/02/16 22:43, Richard Kuenz wrote: I don't think there is Flash available, neither Skype. You would have to use another solution, i think. On Youtube, normally i use Iceweasel + Greasemonkey Add-on +ViewTube Script http://isebaro.com/viewtube

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