Re: Firefox 133 test package for ppc64

2025-07-25 Thread Damien Stewart
On 24/7/25 12:21 pm, Cedar Maxwell wrote: I found Luakit (in the repo) works very well. It plays YouTube better on my iBook G4 than Firefox does on my PowerMac G5. Yet it has only been mentioned twice ever in this mailing list. Thanks for the hint. I'd never heard of this Luakit before. I do

Re: Firefox 133 test package for ppc64

2025-07-23 Thread Cedar Maxwell
I found Luakit (in the repo) works very well. It plays YouTube better on my iBook G4 than Firefox does on my PowerMac G5. Yet it has only been mentioned twice ever in this mailing list. Cedar On Tue, 2025-07-22 at 23:33 +1000, Damien Stewart wrote: > On 7/7/25 6:37 am, James Madgwick wrote: > >

Re: Firefox 133 test package for ppc64

2025-07-22 Thread Damien Stewart
On 7/7/25 6:37 am, James Madgwick wrote: For what it's worth, I've just installed 138 and initially a window appeared but I couldn't interact with any menus or do anything. But after removing .mozilla I was able to get it working. Based on this, it seems clearing that directory is required. Th

Re: Firefox 133 test package for ppc64

2025-07-21 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On Mon, 2025-07-21 at 22:04 -0500, Cedar Maxwell wrote: > Is there any update on fixing Firefox for 32-bit PowerPC? No, not yet. Fixing this requires more work. Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer `. `' Physicist `-GPG: 62FF 8A75 84E0 2956 9546 0006 742

Re: Firefox 133 test package for ppc64

2025-07-21 Thread Cedar Maxwell
Is there any update on fixing Firefox for 32-bit PowerPC? On Sun, 2025-07-06 at 21:37 +0100, James Madgwick wrote: > On Mon, 12 May 2025 09:55:50 -0700 > Ken Cunningham wrote: > > > I had never tried firefox 138 with the MATE desktop before, so > > can't > > know if removing the .mozilla directo

Re: Firefox 133 test package for ppc64

2025-07-06 Thread James Madgwick
On Mon, 12 May 2025 09:55:50 -0700 Ken Cunningham wrote: > I had never tried firefox 138 with the MATE desktop before, so can't > know if removing the .mozilla directory was part of the magic or not, > but easy to do. > > I suspect removing the .mozilla directory was not the issue, as it > still

Re: Firefox 133 test package for ppc64

2025-05-17 Thread Damien Stewart
On 15/5/25 3:10 am, Ken Cunningham wrote: > At present, not from an SSD. It has been working OK until these challenges. > > I guess it's about time to repurpose one of my other SSDs to this system. I'll find one of the older, slower ones from the junk box that I took out of another system dur

Re: Firefox 133 test package for ppc64

2025-05-14 Thread Ken Cunningham
> On May 13, 2025, at 11:25 PM, Damien Stewart wrote: > > On 13/5/25 6:08 am, Ken Cunningham wrote: >> It's challenging to debug firefox. >> >> I have 3.5G of RAM, and I added an 8G swapfile, and with that firefox will >> run under gdb but it takes 15-18 minutes for firefox to start. It uses

Re: Firefox 133 test package for ppc64

2025-05-13 Thread Damien Stewart
On 13/5/25 6:08 am, Ken Cunningham wrote: It's challenging to debug firefox. I have 3.5G of RAM, and I added an 8G swapfile, and with that firefox will run under gdb but it takes 15-18 minutes for firefox to start. It uses a lot of swapfile. That's a long time. When I first tested it under g

Re: Firefox 133 test package for ppc64

2025-05-13 Thread Damien Stewart
On 12/5/25 11:18 pm, Ken Cunningham wrote: I can choose the desktop manager on login. There’s a menu of the installed ones to choose from. I’m using lightdm, I recall. Retested last night and found it is there hiding in the top menu. I think I'm just used to the Ubuntu themed lightdm where i

Re: Firefox 133 test package for ppc64

2025-05-13 Thread Damien Stewart
On 12/5/25 11:37 pm, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: You may try to disable GPU acceleration. However, there doesn't seem to be a command line parameter for that. So, the easiest way would be to SSH into your ppc64 machine and run firefox with "firefox -no-remote". For example: $ ssh -X -C deb

Re: Firefox 133 test package for ppc64

2025-05-12 Thread Ken Cunningham
It's challenging to debug firefox. I have 3.5G of RAM, and I added an 8G swapfile, and with that firefox will run under gdb but it takes 15-18 minutes for firefox to start. It uses a lot of swapfile. Then when you start interacting with is (eg ask it to open a website) it does a hard crash and

Re: Firefox 133 test package for ppc64

2025-05-12 Thread Ken Cunningham
It has been working fine up to now, Firefox works fine with MATE, and other progs are not crashing -- but I haven't run the Apple HW test CD on this system in a while, not since I replaced the processors after the last time I changed the power supply about two years ago. I'll see if I can get t

Re: Firefox 133 test package for ppc64

2025-05-12 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Hi, On Mon, 2025-05-12 at 10:02 -0700, Ken Cunningham wrote: > I'll see if I can get it to run under gdb. > > It's a deep, hard crash -- entire system locked up, no way to reboot, > can't log in via SSH, nothing. > > And nothing displayed in the terminal window to indicate what happened. Did yo

Re: Firefox 133 test package for ppc64

2025-05-12 Thread Ken Cunningham
On 2025-05-12, at 9:58 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, 2025-05-12 at 09:55 -0700, Ken Cunningham wrote: Using LXDE, this time I see content in the windows. But as soon as I click on a menu I get a hard desktop lockup, my remote ssh session disconnects, and

Re: Firefox 133 test package for ppc64

2025-05-12 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Hi, On Mon, 2025-05-12 at 09:55 -0700, Ken Cunningham wrote: > > > Using LXDE, this time I see content in the windows. But as soon as > > > I click on a menu I get a hard desktop lockup, my remote ssh session > > > disconnects, and the windfarm fans go to 100%. > > > > > > No messages in the term

Re: Firefox 133 test package for ppc64

2025-05-12 Thread Ken Cunningham
On 2025-05-12, at 9:27 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > On Mon, 2025-05-12 at 08:33 -0700, Ken Cunningham wrote: >> I reinstalled Firefox 138, and removed the “.mozilla” directory, >> and launched it from a terminal. >> >> Using the MATE desktop, it launches and works (slowly). > > As I

Re: Firefox 133 test package for ppc64

2025-05-12 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On Mon, 2025-05-12 at 08:33 -0700, Ken Cunningham wrote: > I reinstalled Firefox 138, and removed the “.mozilla” directory, > and launched it from a terminal. > > Using the MATE desktop, it launches and works (slowly). As I expected. And, yes, Firefox consumes quite some CPU power. > Using LXDE,

Re: Firefox 133 test package for ppc64

2025-05-12 Thread Ken Cunningham
I reinstalled Firefox 138, and removed the “.mozilla” directory, and launched it from a terminal. Using the MATE desktop, it launches and works (slowly). Using LXDE, this time I see content in the windows. But as soon as I click on a menu I get a hard desktop lockup, my remote ssh session disco

Re: Firefox 133 test package for ppc64

2025-05-12 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On Mon, 2025-05-12 at 15:16 +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > Hi Damien, > > On Mon, 2025-05-12 at 23:00 +1000, Damien Stewart wrote: > > I can confirm this on my system. Which is has an R7 250 in it and > > because of that lacks hardware 3d and 2d by the looks of it, so I need > > to re

Re: Firefox 133 test package for ppc64

2025-05-12 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On Mon, 2025-05-12 at 06:18 -0700, Ken Cunningham wrote: > > I expected LXDE to be better but it may be better to test MATE by the > > looks of it. I had installed this and others. Just need to switch to > > it which isn't as easy when you can't chose on login and wrestle with apt. > > :-) > > I

Re: Firefox 133 test package for ppc64

2025-05-12 Thread Ken Cunningham
> On May 12, 2025, at 06:00, Damien Stewart wrote: > > On 12/5/25 10:48 am, Ken Cunningham wrote: >> Some feedback for others who might try this... >> >> I started off by upgrading to firefox 138, which is the current default when >> you install or upgrade firefox, on my DualG5 with 3.5G Ra

Re: Firefox 133 test package for ppc64

2025-05-12 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Hi Damien, On Mon, 2025-05-12 at 23:00 +1000, Damien Stewart wrote: > I can confirm this on my system. Which is has an R7 250 in it and > because of that lacks hardware 3d and 2d by the looks of it, so I need > to rely on fbdev. Firefox works a lot better by not crashing on startup. > It opens

Re: Firefox 133 test package for ppc64

2025-05-12 Thread Damien Stewart
On 12/5/25 10:48 am, Ken Cunningham wrote: Some feedback for others who might try this... I started off by upgrading to firefox 138, which is the current default when you install or upgrade firefox, on my DualG5 with 3.5G Ram. It opened, but there was no content in the windows, and none of the

Re: Firefox 133 test package for ppc64

2025-05-12 Thread Ed Robbins
Hello, On Sat, 10 May 2025 at 21:47, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > > Hello, > > On Sat, 2025-05-10 at 19:46 +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > > Hello, > > > > On Sat, 2025-05-10 at 19:25 +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > > > Local changes are: > > > > > > firefox (133.0.3-1+p

Re: Firefox 133 test package for ppc64

2025-05-11 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Hello Kevin, On Sun, 2025-05-11 at 23:38 -0700, Ken Cunningham wrote: > It's definitely a major step forward for PowerPC browsers... I just > wanted to put forth a few things people might try if they have any > trouble getting going. > > Perhaps others will have a much simpler experience and not

Re: Firefox 133 test package for ppc64

2025-05-11 Thread Ken Cunningham
It's definitely a major step forward for PowerPC browsers... I just wanted to put forth a few things people might try if they have any trouble getting going. Perhaps others will have a much simpler experience and not see any hiccups -- there are a lot of variations in machines, video cards, vide

Re: Firefox 133 test package for ppc64

2025-05-11 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Hello Kevin, On Sun, 2025-05-11 at 17:48 -0700, Ken Cunningham wrote: > Some feedback for others who might try this... > > I started off by upgrading to firefox 138, which is the current default > when you install or upgrade firefox, on my DualG5 with 3.5G Ram. > > It opened, but there was no co

Re: Firefox 133 test package for ppc64

2025-05-11 Thread Ken Cunningham
Some feedback for others who might try this... I started off by upgrading to firefox 138, which is the current default when you install or upgrade firefox, on my DualG5 with 3.5G Ram. It opened, but there was no content in the windows, and none of the firefox menus would respond after a long ti

Re: Firefox 133 test package for ppc64

2025-05-11 Thread Damien Stewart
On 11/5/25 6:46 am, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: Success:https://people.debian.org/~glaubitz/firefox-ppc64.png Package uploaded to unreleased. Will be installable in a few hours. Looks great! Thanks for the build. I'll be installing it soon. Would missing out on WASM cause much of a slowd

Re: Firefox 133 test package for ppc64

2025-05-11 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On Sat, 2025-05-10 at 18:01 -0300, Leo Historias wrote: > I wonder if we get a Firefox for PPC32 if node.js gets > ported for PPC32? Rust did so why not node.js? Because Rust and NodeJS are completely independent projects. NodeJS is mainly driven by Google and they're usually not interested in su

Re: Firefox 133 test package for ppc64

2025-05-10 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Hello, On Sat, 2025-05-10 at 22:46 +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > Success: https://people.debian.org/~glaubitz/firefox-ppc64.png > > Package uploaded to unreleased. Will be installable in a few hours. Package is available now: http://ftp.ports.debian.org/debian-ports/pool-ppc64/main/

Re: Firefox 133 test package for ppc64

2025-05-10 Thread Jeroen Diederen
Excellent work Adrian. Regards, Jeroen John Paul Adrian Glaubitz schreef op 2025-05-11 03:46: Hello, On Sat, 2025-05-10 at 19:46 +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: Hello, On Sat, 2025-05-10 at 19:25 +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > Local changes are: > > firefox (133.0.3-1+ppc6

Re: Firefox 133 test package for ppc64

2025-05-10 Thread Ken Cunningham
that is very very good. nice catch, spotting that wasm fix. thank you. k > On May 10, 2025, at 13:47, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz > wrote: > > Hello, > >> On Sat, 2025-05-10 at 19:46 +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: >> Hello, >> >>> On Sat, 2025-05-10 at 19:25 +0200, John Paul Adrian

Re: Firefox 133 test package for ppc64

2025-05-10 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Hello, On Sat, 2025-05-10 at 19:46 +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > Hello, > > On Sat, 2025-05-10 at 19:25 +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > > Local changes are: > > > > firefox (133.0.3-1+ppc64.1) unreleased; urgency=medium > > > > * Build with --without-wasm-sandboxed-libra

Re: Firefox 133 test package for ppc64

2025-05-10 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Hello, On Sat, 2025-05-10 at 19:25 +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > Local changes are: > > firefox (133.0.3-1+ppc64.1) unreleased; urgency=medium > > * Build with --without-wasm-sandboxed-libraries > > -- John Paul Adrian Glaubitz Sat, 10 May > 2025 04:47:37 -0700 That still cra

Re: Firefox 133 test package for ppc64

2025-05-10 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Hello, On Sat, 2025-05-10 at 11:37 +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > please try the following package: > > https://people.debian.org/~glaubitz/firefox-ppc64/firefox_133.0.3-1+ppc64_ppc64.deb > > Local changes are: > > firefox (133.0.3-1+ppc64) unreleased; urgency=medium > > * Force b

Re: Firefox 133 test package for ppc64

2025-05-10 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Hello, On Sat, 2025-05-10 at 13:33 +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > This version still crashes for me with the following backtrace: > > #0 0x7fff8ad96d5c in ?? () from /lib/powerpc64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 > --Type for more, q to quit, c to continue without paging-- > [Current thread

Re: Firefox 133 test package for ppc64

2025-05-10 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Hello, On Sat, 2025-05-10 at 11:37 +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > firefox (133.0.3-1+ppc64) unreleased; urgency=medium > > * Force building with gcc and g++ > * Apply selected patches from Solaris: > - Bug1716707.patch > - Bug1888396.patch > - firefox-53-sparc-gfx-atomi

Re: Firefox 52esr on PPC32 is outdated

2024-12-16 Thread Joe Nosay
Build from source and edit the file to work on RISC based systems. Don't expect others to solve that problem. On Monday, December 16, 2024, Leo Historias wrote: > Speaking about it,The only reason why there's no firefox on PowerPC 32 > bits is because of the lack of node.js,this is the reason wh

Re: Firefox 52esr on PPC32 is outdated

2024-12-16 Thread Leo Historias
Speaking about it,The only reason why there's no firefox on PowerPC 32 bits is because of the lack of node.js,this is the reason why Firefox works on i386,even on non-sse2 processors unlike the official version. For example in windows,The last version of Firefox on non-sse2 processors, even on 7

Re: Firefox 52esr on PPC32 is outdated

2024-12-16 Thread Ken Cunningham
On 2024-12-16, at 12:38 PM, Herr Montag wrote: > Hi, > > Am 2024-12-16 21:17, schrieb Riccardo Mottola: > >> TenFourFox was is somehwat usable actually, of course not general browsing >> anymore, but specific friendly sites... > > I actually try SeaLion [^1] on my PowerMacG511,2 (2 Ghz, 12 G

Re: Firefox 52esr on PPC32 is outdated

2024-11-28 Thread Leo Historias
Thanks for the update. Still,I wanna hear if there's any progress on Firefox PPC32 port,specifically the Node.js port for 32 bit PowerPC.That dependency of Firefox has been ported to i386/32 bits,and this made Firefox work. However,that's not currently ported to PPC32,right?

Re: Firefox 52esr on PPC32 is outdated

2024-11-28 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On Thu, 2024-11-28 at 14:52 -0300, Leo Historias wrote: > Any news yet? Not quite sure what you would like to hear? As I already explain, getting a current version of Firefox to both build and work on 32-bit PowerPC is anything but trivial and while it's generally possible, it's very low on my p

Re: Firefox 52esr on PPC32 is outdated

2024-11-14 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Hi Ricardo, On Thu, 2024-11-14 at 11:25 +0100, Riccardo Mottola wrote: > I don't know which kind of news you expect? did you do anything? Agreed. > On my side, ArcticFox, I was able to find out by bisecting (that means > about one week of compilation attempts on my PowerBook). > Built-in ICU br

Re: Firefox 52esr on PPC32 is outdated

2024-11-14 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, I don't know which kind of news you expect? did you do anything? On my side, ArcticFox, I was able to find out by bisecting (that means about one week of compilation attempts on my PowerBook). Built-in ICU broke and build needs to use system ICU. I have now working build again... so a dece

Re: Firefox 52esr on PPC32 is outdated

2024-11-02 Thread Leo Historias
Any news on this? Em qui., 31 de out. de 2024 15:00, Leo Historias < leohistoriasanima...@gmail.com> escreveu: > I mean to John. so > > On Fri, Oct 4, 2024 at 4:20 AM Riccardo Mottola < > riccardo.mott...@libero.it> wrote: > >> Leo Historias wrote: >> > The port of Firefox 115esr to PPC32,spe

Re: Firefox 52esr on PPC32 is outdated

2024-09-20 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Hi, On Sun, 2024-09-15 at 17:45 +0100, Ed Robbins wrote: > On Sun, 15 Sep 2024, 17:23 Leo Historias, > wrote: > > What? You didn't finish due to lack of "manpower"? > > As far as I understand Adrian does almost all of the debian powerpc > maintenance > (with some help here and there, not from m

Re: Firefox 52esr on PPC32 is outdated

2024-09-17 Thread David VANTYGHEM
There's https://basilisk-browser.org/download.shtml too. Le 15/09/2024 à 18:31, Riccardo Mottola a écrit : Hi, Leo Historias wrote: They should update firefox to the latest one considering it is outdated and 52esr is out of support. 115ESR or 128esr is more updated than 52esr. because Moz

Re: Firefox 52esr on PPC32 is outdated

2024-09-17 Thread Leo Historias
Ah, I see. So you guys won't port the dependencies right now due to manpower. And you explained it well. So that's why you guys won't bring Firefox 115esr to powerpc yet until you bring node.js,which became a requirement 1 year ago. And thanks for clarifying I'm not too young,i will contribute la

Re: Firefox 52esr on PPC32 is outdated

2024-09-15 Thread Ed Robbins
On Sun, 15 Sep 2024, 17:23 Leo Historias, wrote: > What? You didn't finish due to lack of "manpower"? > As far as I understand Adrian does almost all of the debian powerpc maintenance (with some help here and there, not from me I'm afraid). Without him there would be no ppc or ppc64 debian: As fa

Re: Firefox 52esr on PPC32 is outdated

2024-09-15 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, Leo Historias wrote: They should update firefox to the latest one considering it is outdated and 52esr is out of support. 115ESR or 128esr is more updated than 52esr. because Mozilla makes things unbuildable and unportable nowadays. Even if you could get it to run it would be full of en

Re: Firefox 52esr on PPC32 is outdated

2024-09-15 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, Leo Historias wrote: What? You didn't finish due to lack of "manpower"? And we need cross transpile? Okay, i could do it for you if only i had the skills necessary and I'm not too young (but being too young isn't neccesary for the reason not to do it,right? I'm 17,almost turning 18 next ye

Re: Firefox 52esr on PPC32 is outdated

2024-09-15 Thread Leo Historias
What? You didn't finish due to lack of "manpower"? And we need cross transpile? Okay, i could do it for you if only i had the skills necessary and I'm not too young (but being too young isn't neccesary for the reason not to do it,right? I'm 17,almost turning 18 next year!) Any alternatives in case

Re: Firefox 52esr on PPC32 is outdated

2024-09-15 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On Sun, 2024-09-15 at 13:04 -0300, Leo Historias wrote: > Thanks for your explanation,but  why Node.JS? Because Firefox upstream decided they want to transpile Javascript files during the build process instead of the development process. > Why don't we have it on ppc32? Because it's not been ful

Re: Firefox 52esr on PPC32 is outdated

2024-09-15 Thread Leo Historias
Thanks for your explanation,but why Node.JS? Why don't we have it on ppc32? One alternative is to build either Firefox using nodejsc or use a version of Firefox that requires rust but not Node.JS Em dom., 15 de set. de 2024 12:54, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz < glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de> escreve

Re: Firefox 52esr on PPC32 is outdated

2024-09-15 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Hello Leo, On Sun, 2024-09-15 at 12:40 -0300, Leo Historias wrote: > Still, we already have rust in the PPC32 repositories so why not compile > Firefox with that Rust? Ironically, even i386 has Firefox 115ESR and it > doesn't require sse2 at all unlike the official Firefox download page at > Mozil

Re: Firefox 52esr on PPC32 is outdated

2024-09-15 Thread Leo Historias
Ok, thanks for the update. Still, we already have rust in the PPC32 repositories so why not compile Firefox with that Rust? Ironically, even i386 has Firefox 115ESR and it doesn't require sse2 at all unlike the official Firefox download page at Mozilla. Em dom., 15 de set. de 2024 12:32, John Pau

Re: Firefox 52esr on PPC32 is outdated

2024-09-15 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Hello Leo, On Sun, 2024-09-15 at 12:29 -0300, Leo Historias wrote: > They should update firefox to the latest one considering it is outdated > and 52esr is out of support. 115ESR or 128esr is more updated than 52esr. getting a current version of Firefox to work on 32-bit PowerPC is anything but t

Re: Firefox segfaults when I start it

2018-08-27 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 08/27/2018 11:09 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: On 8/28/18 5:08 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: Guess not. Explanation here: https://lists.debian.org/debian-sparc/2017/12/msg00060.html Oh, FWIW, you need to install the version from experimental. # apt install firefox -t=experi

Re: Firefox segfaults when I start it

2018-08-27 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 8/28/18 5:08 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: >> Guess not. > > Explanation here: https://lists.debian.org/debian-sparc/2017/12/msg00060.html Oh, FWIW, you need to install the version from experimental. # apt install firefox -t=experimental Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz :

Re: Firefox segfaults when I start it

2018-08-27 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 8/28/18 4:35 AM, Dennis Clarke wrote: > root@nix:~# apt-get install firefox > Reading package lists... Done > Building dependency tree > Reading state information... Done > Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have > requested an impossible situation or if you are using t

Re: Firefox segfaults when I start it

2018-08-27 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 08/27/2018 09:54 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: On 8/25/18 10:54 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: 2) Firefox segfaults when I start it, either from command line or from the system menu. Is this a known bug? Are there any other graphical (i.e., non-text-mode) browsers I can use

Re: Firefox-esr and qupzilla crash/exit under Debian 9 ppc64

2017-09-30 Thread Gabriel Paubert
On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 02:15:42PM +0200, Gabriel Paubert wrote: > On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 01:36:19PM +0200, Mathieu Malaterre wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 12:40 PM, Gabriel Paubert wrote: > > > On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 12:10:20PM +0200, Christian Zigotzky wrote: > > >> On 29 September 2017 a

Re: Firefox-esr and qupzilla crash/exit under Debian 9 ppc64

2017-09-29 Thread Gabriel Paubert
On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 01:36:19PM +0200, Mathieu Malaterre wrote: > On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 12:40 PM, Gabriel Paubert wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 12:10:20PM +0200, Christian Zigotzky wrote: > >> On 29 September 2017 at 11:42AM, Gabriel Paubert wrote: > >> > Hi Christian, > >> > > >> >

Re: Firefox-esr and qupzilla crash/exit under Debian 9 ppc64

2017-09-29 Thread Mathieu Malaterre
On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 12:40 PM, Gabriel Paubert wrote: > On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 12:10:20PM +0200, Christian Zigotzky wrote: >> On 29 September 2017 at 11:42AM, Gabriel Paubert wrote: >> > Hi Christian, >> > >> > The right mouse button, i.e., the one that pops up a menu. >> > >> I understand

Re: Firefox-esr and qupzilla crash/exit under Debian 9 ppc64

2017-09-29 Thread Gabriel Paubert
On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 12:10:20PM +0200, Christian Zigotzky wrote: > On 29 September 2017 at 11:42AM, Gabriel Paubert wrote: > > Hi Christian, > > > > The right mouse button, i.e., the one that pops up a menu. > > > I understand. Yes, you're right. There is a problem. I can open the menu but

Re: Firefox-esr and qupzilla crash/exit under Debian 9 ppc64

2017-09-29 Thread Christian Zigotzky
On 29 September 2017 at 11:42AM, Gabriel Paubert wrote: Hi Christian, The right mouse button, i.e., the one that pops up a menu. I understand. Yes, you're right. There is a problem. I can open the menu but selecting a menu point doesn't work. Thanks for the hint. -- Christian

Re: Firefox-esr and qupzilla crash/exit under Debian 9 ppc64

2017-09-29 Thread Gabriel Paubert
Hi Christian, On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 11:23:30AM +0200, Christian Zigotzky wrote: > Hi Gabriel, > > Could you please exactly describe where the button is? I don't know which > button do you mean. The right mouse button, i.e., the one that pops up a menu. > > Just for info. The A-EON P

Re: Firefox-esr and qupzilla crash/exit under Debian 9 ppc64

2017-09-29 Thread Christian Zigotzky
Hi Gabriel, Could you please exactly describe where the button is? I don't know which button do you mean. Just for info. The A-EON PowerPC machines use their own customized Linux kernels and they don't need Grub, Yaboot or something like that for booting. The firmwares boot the Linux kernels

Re: Firefox-esr and qupzilla crash/exit under Debian 9 ppc64

2017-09-29 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 09/29/2017 10:59 AM, Christian Zigotzky wrote: It's the same bug report. :-) Your first link is also correct. FWIW, please avoid posting messages like "I have the same problem, too", it just causes unnecessary noise. You should only post to bug reports when you have additional information av

Re: Firefox-esr and qupzilla crash/exit under Debian 9 ppc64

2017-09-29 Thread Gabriel Paubert
On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 10:06:08AM +0200, Christian Zigotzky wrote: > Hi All, > > I have Debian Sid PowerPC (PPC32) on my A-EON AmigaOne X1000 Nemo (P.A. Semi > PA6T). I have the same problems with Firefox ESR. > > Adrian, could you try to get in touch with the Firefox maintainer? I think > you c

Re: Firefox-esr and qupzilla crash/exit under Debian 9 ppc64

2017-09-29 Thread Christian Zigotzky
Hi All, I have just subscribed to the bug report. [1] @All Please subscribe to this bug report. Thanks, Christian [1] https://bug98304.bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1269654 On 29 September 2017 at 10:06AM, Christian Zigotzky wrote: Hi All, I have Debian Sid PowerPC (PPC32) on my A-E

Re: Firefox-esr and qupzilla crash/exit under Debian 9 ppc64

2017-09-29 Thread Christian Zigotzky
Adrian, It's the same bug report. :-) Your first link is also correct. Cheers, Christian On 29 September 2017 at 00:04AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: On 09/28/2017 11:59 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: [1] https://bug98304.bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1269654 That link is

Re: Firefox-esr and qupzilla crash/exit under Debian 9 ppc64

2017-09-29 Thread Christian Zigotzky
Hi All, I have Debian Sid PowerPC (PPC32) on my A-EON AmigaOne X1000 Nemo (P.A. Semi PA6T). I have the same problems with Firefox ESR. Adrian, could you try to get in touch with the Firefox maintainer? I think you can better discuss with him about the problems. Thanks, Christian On 28.09.2

Re: Firefox-esr and qupzilla crash/exit under Debian 9 ppc64

2017-09-28 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 09/28/2017 11:59 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: >> [1] https://bug98304.bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1269654 That link is bogus, sorry. Should be: > https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1269654 -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glaub...@deb

Re: Firefox-esr and qupzilla crash/exit under Debian 9 ppc64

2017-09-28 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Hi Sinan! On 09/28/2017 09:22 PM, Sinan Gürkan wrote: > I am running Debian 9 ppc64 with Mate Desktop on A-Eon Cyrus X5000 (Freescale > P5020) > > Both Firefox-ESR and Qupzilla exits or crashes while browsing. You most likely ran into this upstream bug [1] which affects big-endian systems. As f

Re: Firefox 51.0.1-1 on Debian Sid/experimental PowerPC (PPC32): Segmentation fault

2017-02-15 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 04:44:22PM -0500, wrote: > Well there does exist cheaper options, like the $4k T4240QDS-PB, which > is 12 core (24 threads) 1.8Ghz 64 bit powerpc. > > The P5040RDB is $3k for a quad core 64 bit powerpc. > > That's still not hobby level pricing though. Better than the pri

Re: Firefox 51.0.1-1 on Debian Sid/experimental PowerPC (PPC32): Segmentation fault

2017-02-13 Thread luigi burdo
Da: Lennart Sorensen Inviato: lunedì 13 febbraio 2017 22.44 A: Konstantinos Margaritis Cc: debian-powerpc@lists.debian.org Oggetto: Re: Firefox 51.0.1-1 on Debian Sid/experimental PowerPC (PPC32): Segmentation fault On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 10:44:57PM +0200, Konstantinos Margaritis wrote: >

Re: Firefox 51.0.1-1 on Debian Sid/experimental PowerPC (PPC32): Segmentation fault

2017-02-13 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 10:44:57PM +0200, Konstantinos Margaritis wrote: > As with all new languages it will take time, but eventually it will get > there, with a big IF. The biggest(only?) problem with PowerPC in > general right now is hardware availability not lack of interested > developers. Dev

Re: Firefox 51.0.1-1 on Debian Sid/experimental PowerPC (PPC32): Segmentation fault

2017-02-13 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 02/13/2017 09:44 PM, Konstantinos Margaritis wrote: > I'm not a compiler developer, but I've done my share of compiler > bootstrapping/bug reporting/bug fixing. Same here. I'm just more involved with gcc on targets like SH, sparc64 and m68k. >

Re: Firefox 51.0.1-1 on Debian Sid/experimental PowerPC (PPC32): Segmentation fault

2017-02-13 Thread Konstantinos Margaritis
Στις 13-02-2017, ημέρα Δευ, και ώρα 21:00 +0100, ο/η John Paul Adrian Glaubitz έγραψε: > I don't know whether you have already dealt with the internals of > compilers in the past, but I can tell you that it isn't a matter of > just "fixing" it. For it to work, someone actually has to maintain > the

Re: Firefox 51.0.1-1 on Debian Sid/experimental PowerPC (PPC32): Segmentation fault

2017-02-13 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 02/13/2017 08:26 PM, Konstantinos Margaritis wrote: >> Yes. Everyone who is basing their work on Firefox will have to move >> to a different >> codebase from version 53 on or fork Firefox and continue without >> Rust. > > Or, fix Rust for powerpc? I don't know whether you have already dealt wi

Re: Firefox 51.0.1-1 on Debian Sid/experimental PowerPC (PPC32): Segmentation fault

2017-02-13 Thread Konstantinos Margaritis
Στις 13-02-2017, ημέρα Δευ, και ώρα 20:20 +0100, ο/η John Paul Adrian Glaubitz έγραψε: > Yes. Everyone who is basing their work on Firefox will have to move > to a different > codebase from version 53 on or fork Firefox and continue without > Rust. Or, fix Rust for powerpc? My 2c. Konstantinos

Re: Firefox 51.0.1-1 on Debian Sid/experimental PowerPC (PPC32): Segmentation fault

2017-02-13 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 02/13/2017 01:25 PM, Herminio Hernandez, Jr. wrote: > This does not surprise me. It is a really sad case. Even the developer of the > TenFourFox port of FF knows that he will have to cease being code compatible. Yes. Everyone who is basing their work on Firefox will have to move to a different

Re: Firefox 51.0.1-1 on Debian Sid/experimental PowerPC (PPC32): Segmentation fault

2017-02-13 Thread Herminio Hernandez, Jr.
AM, luigi burdo wrote: > It means all are killing us in all fronts. > > [image: ☹] > > > Luigi > > > -- > *Da:* John Paul Adrian Glaubitz > *Inviato:* lunedì 13 febbraio 2017 11.49 > *A:* debian-powerpc@lists.debian.org > *Ogget

Re: Firefox 51.0.1-1 on Debian Sid/experimental PowerPC (PPC32): Segmentation fault

2017-02-13 Thread luigi burdo
It means all are killing us in all fronts. [☹] Luigi Da: John Paul Adrian Glaubitz Inviato: lunedì 13 febbraio 2017 11.49 A: debian-powerpc@lists.debian.org Oggetto: Re: Firefox 51.0.1-1 on Debian Sid/experimental PowerPC (PPC32): Segmentation fault Hi! On

Re: Firefox 51.0.1-1 on Debian Sid/experimental PowerPC (PPC32): Segmentation fault

2017-02-13 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Hi! On 02/06/2017 10:39 PM, Christian Zigotzky wrote: > I installed Firefox 51.0.1-1 with 'apt-get install -t experimental firefox' > on Debian Sid/experimental PowerPC (PPC32) today. Just as a warning in advance: Mozilla upstream has decided to make the Rust programming language mandatory for Fi

Re: Firefox 51.0.1-1 on Debian Sid/experimental PowerPC (PPC32): Segmentation fault

2017-02-12 Thread Herminio Hernandez Jr.
Running debug now with the symbols. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 12, 2017, at 8:50 AM, Christian Zigotzky > wrote: > > Hi Herminio, > > If you want to backtrace Firefox, then you need the debug version of Firefox. > Please add the following repositories to your /etc/apt/sources.list: > > d

Re: Firefox 51.0.1-1 on Debian Sid/experimental PowerPC (PPC32): Segmentation fault

2017-02-12 Thread Herminio Hernandez Jr.
Will do. Anything to help. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 12, 2017, at 8:50 AM, Christian Zigotzky > wrote: > > Hi Herminio, > > If you want to backtrace Firefox, then you need the debug version of Firefox. > Please add the following repositories to your /etc/apt/sources.list: > > deb http:/

Re: Firefox 51.0.1-1 on Debian Sid/experimental PowerPC (PPC32): Segmentation fault

2017-02-12 Thread Christian Zigotzky
Hi Herminio, If you want to backtrace Firefox, then you need the debug version of Firefox. Please add the following repositories to your /etc/apt/sources.list: deb http://debug.mirrors.debian.org/debian-debug/ unstable-debug main deb http://debug.mirrors.debian.org/debian-debug/ experimental-

Re: Firefox 51.0.1-1 on Debian Sid/experimental PowerPC (PPC32): Segmentation fault

2017-02-12 Thread Herminio Hernandez Jr.
You are right. I will install them and run again. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 12, 2017, at 2:18 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz > wrote: > >> On 02/12/2017 08:37 AM, Herminio Hernandez, Jr. wrote: >> I ran firefox 51 on my iBook G4 running Sid. I was able to get a backtrace. >> I am posting i

Re: Firefox 51.0.1-1 on Debian Sid/experimental PowerPC (PPC32): Segmentation fault

2017-02-12 Thread luigi burdo
the strange it is working without issue if i dont count the strange webm 0x0x24 resolution in video (no video) on fedora and ubuntu mate 16.10. and on mate i was using the debian sid build. luigi Inviato da iPad > Il giorno 12 feb 2017, alle ore 10:19, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz > ha scritto:

Re: Firefox 51.0.1-1 on Debian Sid/experimental PowerPC (PPC32): Segmentation fault

2017-02-12 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 02/12/2017 08:37 AM, Herminio Hernandez, Jr. wrote: > I ran firefox 51 on my iBook G4 running Sid. I was able to get a backtrace. I > am posting it here. This backtrace is not usable, it doesn't contains any symbols: Thread 1 "firefox.real" received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. 0x1ae2d

Re: Firefox 51.0.1-1 on Debian Sid/experimental PowerPC (PPC32): Segmentation fault

2017-02-12 Thread Christian Zigotzky
Thank you! :-) -- Christian Sent from my iPhone > On 12 Feb 2017, at 08:37, Herminio Hernandez, Jr. > wrote: > > I ran firefox 51 on my iBook G4 running Sid. I was able to get a backtrace. I > am posting it here. > > Herminio > >> On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 12:49 AM, Christian Zigotzky >> wr

Re: Firefox 51.0.1-1 on Debian Sid/experimental PowerPC (PPC32): Segmentation fault

2017-02-11 Thread Herminio Hernandez, Jr.
I ran firefox 51 on my iBook G4 running Sid. I was able to get a backtrace. I am posting it here. Herminio On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 12:49 AM, Christian Zigotzky wrote: > Could someone also test Firefox 51.0.1-1? My gdb closes after the command > 'run'. > > -- Christian > > Sent from my iPhone > >

Re: Firefox 51.0.1-1 on Debian Sid/experimental PowerPC (PPC32): Segmentation fault

2017-02-07 Thread Michel Dänzer
On 07/02/17 08:04 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > On 02/07/2017 12:02 AM, Christian Zigotzky wrote: >> (gdb) run >> >> Starting program: /usr/lib/firefox/./firefox >> warning: Could not load shared library symbols for linux-vdso32.so.1. >> Do you need "set solib-search-path" or "set sysroot"

Re: Firefox 51.0.1-1 on Debian Sid/experimental PowerPC (PPC32): Segmentation fault

2017-02-06 Thread Christian Zigotzky
Could someone also test Firefox 51.0.1-1? My gdb closes after the command 'run'. -- Christian Sent from my iPhone > On 7 Feb 2017, at 00:09, Christian Zigotzky wrote: > > Unfortunately, gdb has closed after the command 'run'. It's not possible to > get a backtrace. > >> On 07 February 2017 a

Re: Firefox 51.0.1-1 on Debian Sid/experimental PowerPC (PPC32): Segmentation fault

2017-02-06 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 02/07/2017 06:16 AM, Herminio Hernandez Jr. wrote: > Isn't there a logging feature that will capture it? You don't get the backtrace from these logs. You need gdb for that. -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glaub...@debian.org `. `' Freie Universitaet Berlin -

Re: Firefox 51.0.1-1 on Debian Sid/experimental PowerPC (PPC32): Segmentation fault

2017-02-06 Thread Herminio Hernandez Jr.
Isn't there a logging feature that will capture it? Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 6, 2017, at 4:09 PM, Christian Zigotzky wrote: > > Unfortunately, gdb has closed after the command 'run'. It's not possible to > get a backtrace. > >> On 07 February 2017 at 12:04 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wr

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