Re: Powerpc (mac-G4) -essentially broken

2002-01-22 Thread benh
>I'm not arguing, and I can see that this is a very valid point of view >(kernel as a hardware abstraction layer, supporting only the facilities >the hardware does, and thus avoiding bloating with creaping featureism). > But the alternative view would be that the kernel's sound interface is >t

Re: Powerpc (mac-G4) -essentially broken

2002-01-22 Thread Nick Bailey
Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: First is that the sounds in KDE are white noise. I've seen posted bug report about dmasound_pmac not honouring byte-reversal requests, and I guess this is it. No. It's not the kernel driver who should do byte swapping. The userland app should do it. Most user

Re: Powerpc (mac-G4) -essentially broken

2002-01-18 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Fri, 2002-01-18 at 15:12, Adam C Powell IV wrote: > Michel Dänzer wrote: > > >On Fri, 2002-01-18 at 03:58, Adam C Powell IV wrote: > > > >>Nick Bailey wrote: > >> > >>>Thridly (out of two 8-): the mouse crashes when exiting KDE. > >>>I've not seen this in a bug report. It's a USB one and wor

Re: Powerpc (mac-G4) -essentially broken

2002-01-18 Thread Adam C Powell IV
Michel Dänzer wrote: On Fri, 2002-01-18 at 03:58, Adam C Powell IV wrote: Nick Bailey wrote: Thridly (out of two 8-): the mouse crashes when exiting KDE. I've not seen this in a bug report. It's a USB one and works fine until you exit KDE. The remapping of F11 and F12 as the two mouse b

Re: Powerpc (mac-G4) -essentially broken

2002-01-18 Thread Liam Bedford
On Fri, Jan 18, 2002 at 10:56:34AM +0100, Michel Dänzer came forth with: > Of course not, doesn't kdm also have an option to restart the X server > though? > add -once to the Xserver invocation. Which, IIRC, for kdm is: /etc/kde2/kdm/Xservers L. -- Liam Bedford | Sometimes, I get to fly so

Re: Powerpc (mac-G4) -essentially broken

2002-01-18 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Thu, 2002-01-17 at 10:46, Nick Bailey wrote: > > >Thridly (out of two 8-): the mouse crashes when exiting KDE. > > >I've not seen this in a bug report. It's a USB one and works > > >fine until you exit KDE. The remapping of F11 and F12 as the > > >two mouse buttons works fine too (just left t

Re: Powerpc (mac-G4) -essentially broken

2002-01-18 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Fri, 2002-01-18 at 03:58, Adam C Powell IV wrote: > Nick Bailey wrote: > > >Thridly (out of two 8-): the mouse crashes when exiting KDE. > >I've not seen this in a bug report. It's a USB one and works > >fine until you exit KDE. The remapping of F11 and F12 as the > >two mouse buttons wor

Re: Powerpc (mac-G4) -essentially broken

2002-01-17 Thread Branden Robinson
On Thu, Jan 17, 2002 at 09:58:41PM -0500, Adam C Powell IV wrote: > There should be a backup, like XF86Config-4.dpkg-bak or something like > that. No such file? If you tell debconf to move the existing config file out of the way, it is backed up in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4.debconf-backup. If you t

Re: Powerpc (mac-G4) -essentially broken

2002-01-17 Thread Adam C Powell IV
Nick Bailey wrote: Thridly (out of two 8-): the mouse crashes when exiting KDE. I've not seen this in a bug report. It's a USB one and works fine until you exit KDE. The remapping of F11 and F12 as the two mouse buttons works fine too (just left the stuff in from Potato). I know there's a

Re: Powerpc (mac-G4) -essentially broken

2002-01-17 Thread Benjamin Herrenschmidt
>The sid package doesn't work for me. I have installed libarts 2.2.2-11 and >starting it gives me the folloging error message: > >[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ artsd -D /dev/sound/dsp1 >Error while initializing the sound driver: >SNDCTL_DSP_SETFMT failed - Invalid argument > >I am using the dmasound_pmac

Re: Powerpc (mac-G4) -essentially broken

2002-01-17 Thread Fabian Jakobs
Am Donnerstag, 17. Januar 2002 11:16 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > >All my apps talk to /dev/dsp, or esd (I'm trying to give it up). It's > > just things like the KDE stuff which use the sound server. Maybe I > > should just disable sound in KDE. Or maybe the problem will disappear > > after a fe

Re: Powerpc (mac-G4) -essentially broken

2002-01-17 Thread benh
>All my apps talk to /dev/dsp, or esd (I'm trying to give it up). It's just >things like the KDE stuff which use the sound server. Maybe I should just >disable sound in KDE. Or maybe the problem will disappear after a few >weeks as >a testing deb changes? Well, maybe. You should still fill a bu

Re: Powerpc (mac-G4) -essentially broken

2002-01-17 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Thu, 2002-01-17 at 10:09, Nick Bailey wrote: > Secondly, the # key has disappeared. Shift-3 just goes beep > (actually "shhh") on the konsole, or produces a £ in > emacs. The keyboard has no # (or delete (as opposed to > backspace), for that matter). Thank you very, very much > Apple

Re: Powerpc (mac-G4) -essentially broken

2002-01-17 Thread Nick Bailey
Thanks for the quick reply, Ben! Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > > > >First is that the sounds in KDE are white noise. I've seen > >posted bug report about dmasound_pmac not honouring > >byte-reversal requests, and I guess this is it. > > No. It's not the kernel driver who should do byte swappin

Re: Powerpc (mac-G4) -essentially broken

2002-01-17 Thread Benjamin Herrenschmidt
> >First is that the sounds in KDE are white noise. I've seen >posted bug report about dmasound_pmac not honouring >byte-reversal requests, and I guess this is it. No. It's not the kernel driver who should do byte swapping. The userland app should do it. Most userland apps appear to be quite brok

Powerpc (mac-G4) -essentially broken

2002-01-17 Thread Nick Bailey
I've got a couple of critical problems with our G4 Macs running Woody which is stopping me unleashing it on a lab-full of final-year engineering students (who would make quite good testers I think). I apt-get dist-upgraded from potato on the machine set aside for testing. First is that the so