Re: What are the fastest Mozilla's Gecko-based web browsers for PowerBook G4?

2017-03-07 Thread Herminio Hernandez, Jr.
First, flash is dead under PowerPC. It will never work sadly. Besides that I cannot think of another gecko based browser to use. Besides FF I use Midori, but that is WebKit based. On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 12:01 AM, PhiLLip Pi wrote: > In my couple days old Debian Jessie/stable PowerPC on a very ol

What are the fastest Mozilla's Gecko-based web browsers for PowerBook G4?

2017-03-07 Thread PhiLLip Pi
In my couple days old Debian Jessie/stable PowerPC on a very old 2002 15" Titanium PowerBook G4 with 512 MB of RAM, it came with Firefox v45.7 ESR but it is very slow and uses too much memories. I wonder if there are faster Gecko-based web browsers. If they do exist, then they need to still wor

Re: Problems installing Debian on Powerbooks

2017-03-07 Thread Richard Kuenz
this helped me alot installing on powerbook http://mintppc.org/content/installation-mintppc-92 On 08.03.2017 00:31, Nicholas Dal Porto wrote: Here's a photo of the pertinent section: http://i.imgur.com/hHZyDfg.jpg On Mar 7, 2017, at 11:53 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz mailto:glaub...@physik.fu

Re: Problems installing Debian on Powerbooks

2017-03-07 Thread Nicholas Dal Porto
Here's a photo of the pertinent section: http://i.imgur.com/hHZyDfg.jpg > On Mar 7, 2017, at 11:53 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz > wrote: > > From the installer menu, choose "Execute a shell". Then run the "bash" > command to get a proper shell. > > From there, navigate to /var/log and locate

Re: Is it possible to use a 2002 (Titanium) 15" PowerBook G4's wifi with WPA2, PSK, AES, etc.?

2017-03-07 Thread Herminio Hernandez, Jr.
I am not sure Titanium PowerBooks support WPA see *here * On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 12:55 PM, PhiLLip Pi wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 07, 2017 at 02:43:37PM -0500, Lennart Sorensen wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 0

Re: Problems installing Debian on Powerbooks

2017-03-07 Thread Nicholas Dal Porto
How might I retrieve that? Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 7, 2017, at 11:32 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz > wrote: > > Wait! > > I don't think it's an HDD issue. > > Can you try to provide the /var/log/syslog file from the installation process? > > This will include the actual error message

Re: Is it possible to use a 2002 (Titanium) 15" PowerBook G4's wifi with WPA2, PSK, AES, etc.?

2017-03-07 Thread PhiLLip Pi
On Tue, Mar 07, 2017 at 02:43:37PM -0500, Lennart Sorensen wrote: > On Tue, Mar 07, 2017 at 10:46:16AM -0800, PhiLLip Pi wrote: > > Here is what I know based on my new Debian PPC v8's installation: > > dmesg (full log in http://pastebin.ca/3777025 ): > > $ dmesg |grep airport > > [ 11.706958] ai

Re: Problems installing Debian on Powerbooks

2017-03-07 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
From the installer menu, choose "Execute a shell". Then run the "bash" command to get a proper shell. From there, navigate to /var/log and locate the syslog file. You should be able to upload that file using the scp command. Adrian > On Mar 7, 2017, at 8:35 PM, Nicholas Dal Porto wrote: > >

Re: Is it possible to use a 2002 (Titanium) 15" PowerBook G4's wifi with WPA2, PSK, AES, etc.?

2017-03-07 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Tue, Mar 07, 2017 at 10:46:16AM -0800, PhiLLip Pi wrote: > Here is what I know based on my new Debian PPC v8's installation: > dmesg (full log in http://pastebin.ca/3777025 ): > $ dmesg |grep airport > [ 11.706958] airport 0.15 (Benjamin Herrenschmidt > ) > [ 11.707033] airport: Physical ad

Re: Problems installing Debian on Powerbooks

2017-03-07 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Wait! I don't think it's an HDD issue. Can you try to provide the /var/log/syslog file from the installation process? This will include the actual error messages. Adrian > On Mar 7, 2017, at 8:07 PM, Nicholas Dal Porto wrote: > > Alright, now I'm getting a "target installation failed" on the

Re: Problems installing Debian on Powerbooks

2017-03-07 Thread Nicholas Dal Porto
Alright, now I'm getting a "target installation failed" on the "Install base system" phase. I think it's an issue with my HDD - I never tested it before I installed it. Going to swap in a known good one in a bit. > On Mar 7, 2017, at 8:20 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz > wrote: > >> On 03/07/2

Re: Is it possible to use a 2002 (Titanium) 15" PowerBook G4's wifi with WPA2, PSK, AES, etc.?

2017-03-07 Thread PhiLLip Pi
On Tue, Mar 07, 2017 at 11:01:10AM -0500, Lennart Sorensen wrote: > On Tue, Mar 07, 2017 at 02:32:55AM -0800, PhiLLip Pi wrote: > > I know Mac OS Xes can't, but I wonder if this is the same issue with > > Debian/Linux. > > Do you know which wifi chip it has? > > As far as I can tell from some se

Re: Unable to wake up PowerBook G4's display after sleeping (lid & power button)

2017-03-07 Thread PhiLLip Pi
On Tue, Mar 07, 2017 at 02:15:04AM -0800, PhiLLip Pi wrote: > > > > Now, I have Debian PowerPC installed, updated, and running on the very > > > > old 2002 15" PowerBook G4. I noticed after closing (Apple's glowing logo > > > > light goes off, but the old fans still spin) and opening its lid, it >

Re: Problems installing Debian on Powerbooks

2017-03-07 Thread Nicholas Dal Porto
It's a 12" aluminum PowerBook G4 > On Mar 7, 2017, at 7:30 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz > wrote: > >> On 03/07/2017 04:27 PM, Nicholas Dal Porto wrote: >> I've tried almost every PPC Jessie ISOs I could find. I can try Wheezy. > > Wait, why was Luke answering this question as well when I aske

Re: Problems installing Debian on Powerbooks

2017-03-07 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 03/07/2017 04:54 PM, Nicholas Dal Porto wrote: > 1) did you have the original Apple hard drive and if so, how did you format > it? I actually installed it onto an external Firewire drive. I also don't think at all that this is relevant because the firmware issues usually only existed on MacOS

Re: Problems installing Debian on Powerbooks

2017-03-07 Thread Nicholas Dal Porto
May I ask two things: 1) did you have the original Apple hard drive and if so, how did you format it? 2) what operating system did you burn the ISO with and how Thanks! > On Mar 7, 2017, at 7:43 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz > wrote: > >> On 03/07/2017 04:39 PM, Nicholas Dal Porto wrote: >>

Re: Is it possible to use a 2002 (Titanium) 15" PowerBook G4's wifi with WPA2, PSK, AES, etc.?

2017-03-07 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Tue, Mar 07, 2017 at 02:32:55AM -0800, PhiLLip Pi wrote: > I know Mac OS Xes can't, but I wonder if this is the same issue with > Debian/Linux. Do you know which wifi chip it has? As far as I can tell from some searching, it is probably a broadcom 43xx chip. If it is, then there is some hope

Re: Is it possible to use a 2002 (Titanium) 15" PowerBook G4's wifi with WPA2, PSK, AES, etc.?

2017-03-07 Thread Kirill Shilov
Hello, think this is issue of your "regular AirPort Card" maybe you can replace internal wifi to "AirPort Extreme card"? and think this will work for you. also of course you can use another card in the "outer" PCMCIA card slot on the left side of the machine. This will also allow higher transmiss

Re: Problems installing Debian on Powerbooks

2017-03-07 Thread Nicholas Dal Porto
I've tried almost every PPC Jessie ISOs I could find. I can try Wheezy. > On Mar 7, 2017, at 12:23 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz > wrote: > >> On 03/07/2017 08:50 AM, Nicholas Dal Porto wrote: >> I've tried at least 25 different ISO files. > > Which ones did you try? Did you try known good one

Re: Problems installing Debian on Powerbooks

2017-03-07 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 03/07/2017 04:39 PM, Nicholas Dal Porto wrote: > It's a 12" aluminum PowerBook G4 Ok, that should definitely work. I did install Debian successfully on a very similar (or even identical?) PowerBook G4 in the past [1]. Adrian > [1] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=775337 --

Re: Problems installing Debian on Powerbooks

2017-03-07 Thread Nicholas Dal Porto
That might be the ticket. Current the drive is a pull from an old Thinkpad. Is there any way to put the Apple firmware on? > On Mar 7, 2017, at 12:20 AM, Luke wrote: > > I had a problem similar to yours, solved by changing to another HD with Apple > firmware. > > Il 07/mar/2017 09:15 AM, "Nic

Re: Problems installing Debian on Powerbooks

2017-03-07 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 03/07/2017 04:27 PM, Nicholas Dal Porto wrote: > I've tried almost every PPC Jessie ISOs I could find. I can try Wheezy. Wait, why was Luke answering this question as well when I asked you. I was confused for a second seeing this answer again. In any case, it's important that we know the hardw

Re: Xorg fails on ATI after update (mmio aperture)

2017-03-07 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 03/07/2017 01:11 PM, Riccardo Mottola wrote: > How can I know when an update was available? Or, better which intermediate > versions are or have been available between my two kernels versions? You search for the "linux" source package on the snapshots page: > http://snapshot.debian.org/packag

Re: Xorg fails on ATI after update (mmio aperture)

2017-03-07 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: Then you need to provide as many datapoints as possible. Trying to bisect the kernel version which broke the driver is already the right idea. I would start working with snapshot.debian.org to find the Debian kernel version which broke the driver. Then we c

Is it possible to use a 2002 (Titanium) 15" PowerBook G4's wifi with WPA2, PSK, AES, etc.?

2017-03-07 Thread PhiLLip Pi
I know Mac OS Xes can't, but I wonder if this is the same issue with Debian/Linux. Thank you in advance. :) -- Quote of the Week: "The great companies did not know that the line between hunger and anger is a thin line. And money that might have gone to wages went for gas, for guns, for agents

Re: Xorg fails on ATI after update (mmio aperture)

2017-03-07 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, Michel Dänzer wrote: AFAICT Option "Noaccel" completely disables hardware acceleration. Together with Option "shadow_fb", it should operate more or less the same way the fbdev driver does. If you're still seeing a difference in performance between the two drivers, having a more detailed desc

Re: Unable to wake up PowerBook G4's display after closing and reopening its lid.

2017-03-07 Thread PhiLLip Pi
> > > Now, I have Debian PowerPC installed, updated, and running on the very > > > old 2002 15" PowerBook G4. I noticed after closing (Apple's glowing logo > > > light goes off, but the old fans still spin) and opening its lid, it > > > won't wake up. I retried this in both LXDE, XFCE, and the GUI

Re: Problems installing Debian on Powerbooks

2017-03-07 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 03/07/2017 10:46 AM, Luke wrote: > I tried with Wheezy, Squeeze and also Lenny. Then it's most likely not a software issue but a problem with your hardware configuration. I know that installing Debian on Powerbooks worked in the past, except for some very old models which the Linux kernel curre

Re: Problems installing Debian on Powerbooks

2017-03-07 Thread Luke
Il 07/mar/2017 09:23 AM, "John Paul Adrian Glaubitz" < glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de> ha scritto: On 03/07/2017 08:50 AM, Nicholas Dal Porto wrote: > I've tried at least 25 different ISO files. Which ones did you try? Did you try known good ones like Jessie or even Wheezy ISOs? Adrian -- .''`.

Re: Problems installing Debian on Powerbooks

2017-03-07 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 03/07/2017 08:50 AM, Nicholas Dal Porto wrote: > I've tried at least 25 different ISO files. Which ones did you try? Did you try known good ones like Jessie or even Wheezy ISOs? Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glaub...@debian.org `. `' Freie Universit

Re: Problems installing Debian on Powerbooks

2017-03-07 Thread Luke
I had a problem similar to yours, solved by changing to another HD with Apple firmware. Il 07/mar/2017 09:15 AM, "Nicholas Dal Porto" ha scritto: > Hi guys, > > I've spent the last few days attempting to install Debian on some old > Powerbooks I have laying around. They're all invariably failing

Problems installing Debian on Powerbooks

2017-03-07 Thread Nicholas Dal Porto
Hi guys, I've spent the last few days attempting to install Debian on some old Powerbooks I have laying around. They're all invariably failing, and I have no clue why. Some hang on loading the partition formatter, others cannot get past "Install the base system" (debootstrap return value 1). I'