Re: radeon graphic speed regression 2.4 -> 2.6 test7 benh

2003-10-29 Thread Soeren Sonnenburg
On Wed, 2003-10-29 at 23:39, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > > It is not synthetic. It feels really sluggish in the shell compared to > > 2.4... Also I have CONFIG_PREEMPT enabled and now I do wonder that I did > > not yet see a random crash - hmmhhh well except for a try to get > > cryptoloop work

Re: [patch] turn off backlight on 12" pbook

2003-10-29 Thread Benjamin Herrenschmidt
On Wed, 2003-10-29 at 23:20, Michael Schmitz wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 28, 2003 at 03:59:11PM +0100, Guido Guenther wrote: > > > although it can't handle brightness at the moment. Patch is against > > > 2.4.22-ben2. > > A slightly updated version (that additionally turns off the backlight at > > level

Re: radeon graphic speed regression 2.4 -> 2.6 test7 benh

2003-10-29 Thread Benjamin Herrenschmidt
On Thu, 2003-10-30 at 14:04, P Oscar Boykin wrote: > On Thu, Oct 30, 2003 at 09:11:16AM +1100, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > > I doubt that even a working CONFIG_PREEMPT would make any good > > difference. Kernel preemption is just a crappy feature to please > > lame slashdotters > > > > Ben. >

Re: radeon graphic speed regression 2.4 -> 2.6 test7 benh

2003-10-29 Thread P Oscar Boykin
On Thu, Oct 30, 2003 at 09:11:16AM +1100, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > I doubt that even a working CONFIG_PREEMPT would make any good > difference. Kernel preemption is just a crappy feature to please > lame slashdotters > > Ben. Are you joking? I have heard that it is a pretty good feature f

Re: Powerbook G4: Linux does not boot again

2003-10-29 Thread Georg Koss
Hello Luca, On Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 08:31:21PM +0100, Luca Padovani wrote: > > Hi everybody, > > I'm quoting an old thread 'cause a similar thing just happened to me. I > can't boot Debian Linux anymore :-( > It started just after having used MacOSX for a couple of hours. After > that, Linux (ke

Re: 2.6.0-test7 (benh) cpufreq problem?

2003-10-29 Thread Georg Koss
Hi Michel, On Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 09:22:44PM +0100, Mich Lanners wrote: > On 28 Oct, this message from Georg Koss echoed through cyberspace: > > I own an PBG412. >^^ > > > [snip] > > 3.) That plan B video stuff has to be disabled. > > Why do you want to use PlanB on your Power

Re: radeon graphic speed regression 2.4 -> 2.6 test7 benh

2003-10-29 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Wed, 2003-10-29 at 23:30, Soeren Sonnenburg wrote: > On Wed, 2003-10-29 at 18:00, Michel Dänzer wrote: > > On Wed, 2003-10-29 at 09:51, Soeren Sonnenburg wrote: > > > On Wed, 2003-10-29 at 09:43, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > > > > > > > > You may be encountering a different issue ... (2.6 is

Re: radeon graphic speed regression 2.4 -> 2.6 test7 benh

2003-10-29 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Thu, 2003-10-30 at 00:04, Vincent Bernat wrote: > OoO Peu avant le début de l'après-midi du mercredi 29 octobre 2003, > vers 13:46, Michel Dänzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> disait: > > >> > CONFIG_PREEMPT might make a difference, pity it causes crashes and all > >> > around weird behaviour about as so

Re: radeon graphic speed regression 2.4 -> 2.6 test7 benh

2003-10-29 Thread Vincent Bernat
OoO Peu avant le début de l'après-midi du mercredi 29 octobre 2003, vers 13:46, Michel Dänzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> disait: >> > CONFIG_PREEMPT might make a difference, pity it causes crashes and all >> > around weird behaviour about as soon as RAM is fully used. >> >> I use CONFIG_PREEMPT and got

Re: radeon graphic speed regression 2.4 -> 2.6 test7 benh

2003-10-29 Thread Benjamin Herrenschmidt
> It is not synthetic. It feels really sluggish in the shell compared to > 2.4... Also I have CONFIG_PREEMPT enabled and now I do wonder that I did > not yet see a random crash - hmmhhh well except for a try to get > cryptoloop working. That was reliably crashing. > > Should I go for the old rade

Re: radeon graphic speed regression 2.4 -> 2.6 test7 benh

2003-10-29 Thread Benjamin Herrenschmidt
> Maybe I'm a lame slashdotter then. :) In my experience it enhances > interactivity considerably. Hrm... well... _maybe_, though at the expense of overall perfs. Ben.

Re: radeon graphic speed regression 2.4 -> 2.6 test7 benh

2003-10-29 Thread Soeren Sonnenburg
On Wed, 2003-10-29 at 17:56, Michel Dänzer wrote: > On Wed, 2003-10-29 at 17:39, Soeren Sonnenburg wrote: > > On Wed, 2003-10-29 at 17:28, Michel Dänzer wrote: > > > On Wed, 2003-10-29 at 09:51, Soeren Sonnenburg wrote: > > > > On Wed, 2003-10-29 at 09:43, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > > > > >

Re: radeon graphic speed regression 2.4 -> 2.6 test7 benh

2003-10-29 Thread Soeren Sonnenburg
On Wed, 2003-10-29 at 18:00, Michel Dänzer wrote: > On Wed, 2003-10-29 at 09:51, Soeren Sonnenburg wrote: > > On Wed, 2003-10-29 at 09:43, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > > > > > > You may be encountering a different issue ... (2.6 is usually overall > > > faster than 2.4 here, though I haven't ti

Re: radeon graphic speed regression 2.4 -> 2.6 test7 benh

2003-10-29 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Wed, 2003-10-29 at 23:11, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > > Weird. Maybe this (rather synthetic BTW - it doesn't feel slow doing > > 'real' work, does it?) test tickles very bad behaviour in something > > which has changed radically in the 2.6 kernel, the scheduler maybe? > > CONFIG_PREEMPT migh

Re: radeon graphic speed regression 2.4 -> 2.6 test7 benh

2003-10-29 Thread Benjamin Herrenschmidt
> Weird. Maybe this (rather synthetic BTW - it doesn't feel slow doing > 'real' work, does it?) test tickles very bad behaviour in something > which has changed radically in the 2.6 kernel, the scheduler maybe? > CONFIG_PREEMPT might make a difference, pity it causes crashes and all > around weird

Installing Debian on the new Tibook

2003-10-29 Thread Bryan Rowe
I am trying to install Debian on the new 15in TiPowerbook. I found your article on installing on an iBook by Branden Robinson http://people.debian.org/~branden/ibook/ and I followed it to the exactly for doing a dual boot between Linux and OS X. However when I start the install from Open firmwar

Re: radeon graphic speed regression 2.4 -> 2.6 test7 benh

2003-10-29 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Wed, 2003-10-29 at 19:22, Vincent Bernat wrote: > OoO En ce doux début de matinée du mercredi 29 octobre 2003, vers > 08:56, Michel Dänzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> disait: > > > CONFIG_PREEMPT might make a difference, pity it causes crashes and all > > around weird behaviour about as soon as RAM is

Re: 2.6.0-test7 (benh) cpufreq problem?

2003-10-29 Thread Mich Lanners
On 28 Oct, this message from Georg Koss echoed through cyberspace: > I own an PBG412. ^^ Hmmm... > I rsynced 2.6.0-test7 from source.mvista.com and compiled that kernel, > which worked with two minor problems. > [snip] > 3.) That plan B video stuff has to be disabled. Why do you

Powerbook G4: Linux does not boot again

2003-10-29 Thread Luca Padovani
Hi everybody, I'm quoting an old thread 'cause a similar thing just happened to me. I can't boot Debian Linux anymore :-( It started just after having used MacOSX for a couple of hours. After that, Linux (kernel 2.4.21 ben2) doesn't boot, it just prints 15/20 lines during startup and then the mac

Re: radeon graphic speed regression 2.4 -> 2.6 test7 benh

2003-10-29 Thread Vincent Bernat
OoO En ce doux début de matinée du mercredi 29 octobre 2003, vers 08:56, Michel Dänzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> disait: > Weird. Maybe this (rather synthetic BTW - it doesn't feel slow doing > 'real' work, does it?) test tickles very bad behaviour in something > which has changed radically in the 2.6 k

Re: prerequisites for debian-installer image upload

2003-10-29 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 05:25:02PM +, Colin Watson wrote: > On Tue, Oct 28, 2003 at 07:24:26PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: > > debian-powerpc: > > > > My plan is to only have the debian-installer package list i386 and > > powerpc as its architectures at first, and add more architectures later > >

Re: prerequisites for debian-installer image upload

2003-10-29 Thread Joey Hess
Joey Hess wrote: > I'm trying to get an upload of the debian-installer boot images > (everything except CD) into the Debian archive, similar to how the > boot-floppies used to go into the archive. I think that this will be > increasingly important as we begin to stabalize d-i before release, and >

Re: prerequisites for debian-installer image upload

2003-10-29 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Oct 28, 2003 at 07:24:26PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: > debian-powerpc: > > My plan is to only have the debian-installer package list i386 and > powerpc as its architectures at first, and add more architectures later > as they are ready. It should be possible to autobuild the images on at > l

apt-get install mozilla-browser is broken in sid

2003-10-29 Thread Jason E. Stewart
Hey All, I went to upgrade galeon today, and now I'm getting relocation errors: Setting up mozilla-browser (1.5-2) ... Updating mozilla chrome registry...regxpcom: relocation error: /usr/lib/mozilla/components/libnsgif.so: undefined symbol: NS_NewGenericModule__FPCcUiP21nsModuleComponentInfoPFP

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Re: radeon graphic speed regression 2.4 -> 2.6 test7 benh

2003-10-29 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Wed, 2003-10-29 at 09:51, Soeren Sonnenburg wrote: > On Wed, 2003-10-29 at 09:43, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > > > > You may be encountering a different issue ... (2.6 is usually overall > > faster than 2.4 here, though I haven't timed gnome-terminal specifically) > > it is not gnome-termin

Re: radeon graphic speed regression 2.4 -> 2.6 test7 benh

2003-10-29 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Wed, 2003-10-29 at 17:39, Soeren Sonnenburg wrote: > On Wed, 2003-10-29 at 17:28, Michel Dänzer wrote: > > On Wed, 2003-10-29 at 09:51, Soeren Sonnenburg wrote: > > > On Wed, 2003-10-29 at 09:43, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > > > > > > > > You may be encountering a different issue ... (2.6 i

Re: radeon graphic speed regression 2.4 -> 2.6 test7 benh

2003-10-29 Thread Soeren Sonnenburg
On Wed, 2003-10-29 at 17:28, Michel Dänzer wrote: > On Wed, 2003-10-29 at 09:51, Soeren Sonnenburg wrote: > > On Wed, 2003-10-29 at 09:43, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > > > > > > You may be encountering a different issue ... (2.6 is usually overall > > > faster than 2.4 here, > > Same here. S

Re: radeon graphic speed regression 2.4 -> 2.6 test7 benh

2003-10-29 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Wed, 2003-10-29 at 09:51, Soeren Sonnenburg wrote: > On Wed, 2003-10-29 at 09:43, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > > > > You may be encountering a different issue ... (2.6 is usually overall > > faster than 2.4 here, Same here. Soeren, have you verified the difference actually is related to X

Re: PPC waste compilation

2003-10-29 Thread W. Crowshaw
Nevermind. I had to re-write the crappy makefile. Now it compiles perfectly on the PPC. If anyone wants the Makefile to start your own private p2p network on your ppc, let me know. -- wcrowshaw

prerequisites for debian-installer image upload

2003-10-29 Thread Joey Hess
I'm trying to get an upload of the debian-installer boot images (everything except CD) into the Debian archive, similar to how the boot-floppies used to go into the archive. I think that this will be increasingly important as we begin to stabalize d-i before release, and now is not too soon to star

Re: OT - worm problem

2003-10-29 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 08:29:04AM -0500, Joshua Narins wrote: > Isn't there some smart debian person who could figure out where this > is coming from? An awful lot of random infected Windows machines, I strongly suspect. There Is No Cabal. Cheers, -- Colin Watson

RE: OT - worm problem

2003-10-29 Thread Joshua Narins
> Not sure if you're using a POP 3 account but I've been using mailfilter > to delete these from the server prior to download with fetchmail and it > works pretty well. Let me know if you want the rc file off list. Even > if you aren't using POP3, you may be able to adapt it for filtering in >

openfirmware question (firmware 1.2 before 256mb upgrade on iMac CRT)

2003-10-29 Thread Martin-Éric Racine
Greetings, I've figured out that one should press alt-museum-o-f to boot into OpenFirmware. However, I cannot figure out which command would positively confirm whether this 333 MHz iMac CRT has the required firmware upgrade 1.2 needed to access 256mb memory modules. Could anyone enlighten me a

Re: [patch] turn off backlight on 12" pbook

2003-10-29 Thread Michael Schmitz
> On Tue, Oct 28, 2003 at 03:59:11PM +0100, Guido Guenther wrote: > > although it can't handle brightness at the moment. Patch is against > > 2.4.22-ben2. > A slightly updated version (that additionally turns off the backlight at > level == 0) can be found at: > http://honk.physik.uni-konstanz.de/

Re: radeon graphic speed regression 2.4 -> 2.6 test7 benh

2003-10-29 Thread Soeren Sonnenburg
On Wed, 2003-10-29 at 09:43, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > On Wed, 2003-10-29 at 18:03, Soeren Sonnenburg wrote: > > > also the system load was noticably higher in 2.6 (the sysload applet was > > completely filled while it was maybe 1/3 filled in 2.4) > > While the radeon driver can make a diff

Re: 2.6.0-test7 (benh) cpufreq problem?

2003-10-29 Thread Benjamin Herrenschmidt
> It's similar to what I reported a time ago after a MacOSX-upgrade (Panther). > Benjamin Herrenschmidt recommended to upgrade my 2.4.* kernel which > solved the problem, which, as he explained short, was in some context > with cpufreq. No, the problem must be different. The fix that went into

Re: radeon graphic speed regression 2.4 -> 2.6 test7 benh

2003-10-29 Thread Benjamin Herrenschmidt
On Wed, 2003-10-29 at 18:03, Soeren Sonnenburg wrote: > also the system load was noticably higher in 2.6 (the sysload applet was > completely filled while it was maybe 1/3 filled in 2.4) While the radeon driver can make a difference in console (2.6 version isn't accelerated), it has no impact on

radeon graphic speed regression 2.4 -> 2.6 test7 benh

2003-10-29 Thread Soeren Sonnenburg
Hi... As I am now on 2.6.0-test7 using the new radeon driver I realized that the scrolling speed in a multi-gnome-terminal is approx. 8 times slower than with 2.4. to test I used just time find ./ in my home directory and it took real4m29.802s user0m1.230s sys 0m7.830s on 2.4.23 som