Re: new Apple symbols map (exposes kernel buglets?)

2003-08-23 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sat, 23 Aug 2003, Frank Murphy wrote: > On Saturday 23 August 2003 6:25, Michel Dänzer wrote: > > > > Don't (some) international Mac keyboards have specific modifications vs. > > their PC counterparts though? > > I don't think there are that many. There were some Apple keyboards that had > the

Re: can't adjust bright

2003-08-23 Thread Michael Heldebrant
On Fri, 2003-08-22 at 07:35, Manu wrote: > I also have tried with powerprefs, and i have the same problem, so i > don't think the problems is the keyboard layout (only). > > > > El mi? 20-08-2003 a las 07:11, J. Javier Maestro escribió: > > > Although I (suspect you do too :-) have a spanish la

Re: 2.4.21-ben2 issues: RTC, Thermal and RTAS

2003-08-23 Thread J. Javier Maestro
On Aug Sun 24 2003 01:11, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: > On Sun, 24 Aug 2003, J. Javier Maestro wrote: > > > My last issue with the kernel is the Thermal Unit Assistant. I > > set the kernel options CONFIG_TAU and CONFIG_TAU_AVERAGE, but at boot > > time, I can read the message "Thermal Assist Unit no

Re: new Apple symbols map (exposes kernel buglets?)

2003-08-23 Thread Frank Murphy
On Saturday 23 August 2003 8:54, Simon Vallet wrote: > Frank Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Where did you get this keymap? I don't see anything like it in the Debian > > files. But I think the problem is with the type="THREE_LEVEL" stuff. I > > don't think your keymap is done properly. > > d

Re: dma_sound problems on 12" pbook

2003-08-23 Thread Vincent Bernat
OoO En cette nuit nuageuse du dimanche 24 août 2003, vers 00:34, "J. Javier Maestro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> disait: > I am into Firewire now, for my iPod... and I also want to run the modem, > perhaps to send faxes and stuff. Or as a telephone... I have been > searching around for linux programs to d

Re: 2.4.21-ben2 issues: RTC, Thermal and RTAS

2003-08-23 Thread Wolfgang Pfeiffer
On Sun, 24 Aug 2003, J. Javier Maestro wrote: > My last issue with the kernel is the Thermal Unit Assistant. I > set the kernel options CONFIG_TAU and CONFIG_TAU_AVERAGE, but at boot > time, I can read the message "Thermal Assist Unit not available". I was > wondering if any of you running a PBook

Re: dma_sound problems on 12" pbook

2003-08-23 Thread J. Javier Maestro
On Aug Sat 23 2003 23:34, Vincent Bernat wrote: > OoO Lors de la soirée naissante du samedi 23 août 2003, vers 18:55, > "J. Javier Maestro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> disait: > > > BTW, speaking of ALSA... google just told me that the crashes I was > > having when putting the laptop to sleep are because

Address change

2003-08-23 Thread via the vacation program
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Re: dma_sound problems on 12" pbook

2003-08-23 Thread Vincent Bernat
OoO Lors de la soirée naissante du samedi 23 août 2003, vers 18:55, "J. Javier Maestro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> disait: > BTW, speaking of ALSA... google just told me that the crashes I was > having when putting the laptop to sleep are because I am running ALSA! > :-( Any fixes? Any cool scripts to p

Re: new Apple symbols map (exposes kernel buglets?)

2003-08-23 Thread Michael Heironimus
On Sat, Aug 23, 2003 at 08:44:22PM +0200, Frank Murphy wrote: > > My Micro Connectors USB extended keyboard is the same way. Several of > > the keys have Mac-standard labels in normal type and PC-standard labels > > in small print at the top, just like the Option keys on my PowerBook > > have "alt"

Re: new Apple symbols map (exposes kernel buglets?)

2003-08-23 Thread Frank Murphy
On Saturday 23 August 2003 8:14, Michel Dänzer wrote: > I'm curious what those rules will look like though, given the problem > below. ... > I think @ is in different places as well, e.g. it's on G on the Swiss > German keyboard. Yeah. I haven't looked at all the combinations yet. After we've reso

Re: new Apple symbols map (exposes kernel buglets?)

2003-08-23 Thread Simon Vallet
On Sat, 23 Aug 2003 20:29:11 +0200 Frank Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Saturday 23 August 2003 8:08, Simon Vallet wrote: > > what I got here is : > > > > key {type="THREE_LEVEL", [ ampersand, 1, EuroSign ] }; > > (BTW, X doesn't seem very happy with the 'EuroSign' : what is the co

Re: new Apple symbols map (exposes kernel buglets?)

2003-08-23 Thread Frank Murphy
On Saturday 23 August 2003 8:20, Michael Heironimus wrote: > On Sat, Aug 23, 2003 at 06:58:44PM +0200, Simon Vallet wrote: > > > As far as an Apple keyboard that has an Insert key beneath the > > > Delete key, I don't know. Who on this list has an extended keyboard > > > and can share? > > > > I do

Re: new Apple symbols map (exposes kernel buglets?)

2003-08-23 Thread Simon Vallet
[Sorry again, I'll have to learn how to click "Reply all" :) ] On Sat, 23 Aug 2003 20:20:21 +0200 Frank Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Saturday 23 August 2003 7:56, Simon Vallet wrote: > > Michel Dänzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > But you're saying that the Insert key is also Help? D

Re: new Apple symbols map (exposes kernel buglets?)

2003-08-23 Thread Frank Murphy
On Saturday 23 August 2003 8:06, Michel Dänzer wrote: > Ugh, this gets messier the deeper you dig. My motivation is on a sharp > decline again. You seem to have a good understanding though, care to fix > it once and for all? :) We're really close, I think. Someone can deal with ISO_Shift when she

Re: new Apple symbols map (exposes kernel buglets?)

2003-08-23 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Sat, 2003-08-23 at 19:42, Frank Murphy wrote: > On Saturday 23 August 2003 6:25, Michel Dänzer wrote: > > On Sat, 2003-08-23 at 13:49, Frank Murphy wrote: > > > > Long-term, I'd actually like to increase the similarities between PC > > > and Apple keyboards, > > > > macintosh/us could be change

Re: new Apple symbols map (exposes kernel buglets?)

2003-08-23 Thread Frank Murphy
On Saturday 23 August 2003 8:08, Simon Vallet wrote: > what I got here is : > > key {type="THREE_LEVEL", [ ampersand, 1, EuroSign ] }; > (BTW, X doesn't seem very happy with the 'EuroSign' : what is the correct > alias ?) (and this last mapping is arbitrary : I don't have a third symbol > e

Re: new Apple symbols map (exposes kernel buglets?)

2003-08-23 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Sat, 2003-08-23 at 19:56, Simon Vallet wrote: > On 23 Aug 2003 19:27:53 +0200 > Michel Dänzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Just another thought : why bother with the Mode_Switch / Multi-Key ; > > > you could get a perfectly working keyboard with the ISO_Level3_Shift > > > > First time

Re: new Apple symbols map (exposes kernel buglets?)

2003-08-23 Thread Michael Heironimus
On Sat, Aug 23, 2003 at 06:58:44PM +0200, Simon Vallet wrote: > > to increse that convergence. The keycode/key symbol mapping doesn't > > look totally consistient ( = Help), but I blame that on the > > PC-keyboard bias. > > I'm not sure what you meant here, but on my keyboard (Apple extended > II

Re: new Apple symbols map (exposes kernel buglets?)

2003-08-23 Thread Simon Vallet
On 23 Aug 2003 20:06:48 +0200 Michel Dänzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ugh, this gets messier the deeper you dig. My motivation is on a sharp > decline again. You seem to have a good understanding though, care to fix > it once and for all? :) I was thinking I did, but a recent message made me d

Re: new Apple symbols map (exposes kernel buglets?)

2003-08-23 Thread Frank Murphy
On Saturday 23 August 2003 7:56, Simon Vallet wrote: > Michel Dänzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > But you're saying that the Insert key is also Help? Does that mean that > > both are engraved on it, or what is? > > Yes : it says "inser" and "aide" (french keyboard). "inser" is smaller and > at th

Re: new Apple symbols map (exposes kernel buglets?)

2003-08-23 Thread Simon Vallet
On Sat, 23 Aug 2003 19:57:28 +0200 Frank Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does your keyboard actually say "Insert" on the key? If so, we may have to > reconsider what this key should be mapped to. Yes it does : it says "inser" and "aide" (french keyboard) > Mode_switch is used to generate th

Re: new Apple symbols map (exposes kernel buglets?)

2003-08-23 Thread Frank Murphy
On Saturday 23 August 2003 6:58, Simon Vallet wrote: > Frank Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > to increse that convergence. The keycode/key symbol mapping doesn't look > > totally consistient ( = Help), but I blame that on the PC-keyboard > > bias. > > I'm not sure what you meant here, but on m

Re: new Apple symbols map (exposes kernel buglets?)

2003-08-23 Thread Simon Vallet
On 23 Aug 2003 19:27:53 +0200 Michel Dänzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > BTW, you probably mean i.e. (latin abbreviation for 'id est', 'that > is'), not e.g. ('exempli gratia', 'for example'). I did ;-) > But you're saying that the Insert key is also Help? Does that mean that > both are engrave

Re: new Apple symbols map (exposes kernel buglets?)

2003-08-23 Thread Frank Murphy
On Saturday 23 August 2003 7:42, Frank Murphy wrote: > On Saturday 23 August 2003 6:25, Michel Dänzer wrote: > > > > BTW, where do you get the Multi_key definition from? Can't seem to > > > > find it here. > > > > > > What do you mean? Where do I define it (in the apple file)? > > > > No, you don't

Re: new Apple symbols map (exposes kernel buglets?)

2003-08-23 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Sat, 2003-08-23 at 18:58, Simon Vallet wrote: > [Cc'ing to the list] > > On Sat, 23 Aug 2003 13:49:58 +0200 > Frank Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The keycode/key symbol mapping doesn't look totally consistient > > ( = Help), but I blame that on the PC-keyboard bias. :) > > I'm not sur

Re: new Apple symbols map (exposes kernel buglets?)

2003-08-23 Thread Frank Murphy
On Saturday 23 August 2003 6:25, Michel Dänzer wrote: > On Sat, 2003-08-23 at 13:49, Frank Murphy wrote: > > However, I don't want to move the 'extended' or 'laptop' into a > > specific macintosh keymap, like you've done here in us. > > Why, what's the problem with that? macintosh/us is the basis f

2.4.21-ben2 issues: RTC, Thermal and RTAS

2003-08-23 Thread J. Javier Maestro
Hi everyone, I just recompiled the 2.4.21-ben2 kernel several times, trying to get it running. I finally fixed the FB problem I was having at compilation, and when booting, the kernel froze in the middle of the boot, when trying to set the System time. I can track this to the RTC support, since th

Re: new Apple symbols map (exposes kernel buglets?)

2003-08-23 Thread Simon Vallet
[Cc'ing to the list] On Sat, 23 Aug 2003 13:49:58 +0200 Frank Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > to increse that convergence. The keycode/key symbol mapping doesn't look > totally consistient ( = Help), but I blame that on the PC-keyboard bias. > :) I'm not sure what you meant here, but on my

Re: dma_sound problems on 12" pbook

2003-08-23 Thread J. Javier Maestro
On Aug Sat 23 2003 18:19, Thomas Otto wrote: > >>That is expected since dmasound doesn't support recording. You'll have > >>to wait for 2.6 with alsa - see some older threat here. > > > >You mean the sound input on Powerbooks G4 / iBooks will work?? :- > > > >Cl! > > > > digger vermont

Re: new Apple symbols map (exposes kernel buglets?)

2003-08-23 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Sat, 2003-08-23 at 13:49, Frank Murphy wrote: > On Saturday 23 August 2003 1:34, Michel Dänzer wrote: > > On Fri, 2003-08-22 at 09:55, Frank Murphy wrote: > > > [...] the attached patch. Tell me what you think about it, it works with > > I haven't tried it yet, but just looking at it, I have a

Re: dma_sound problems on 12" pbook

2003-08-23 Thread Thomas Otto
That is expected since dmasound doesn't support recording. You'll have to wait for 2.6 with alsa - see some older threat here. You mean the sound input on Powerbooks G4 / iBooks will work?? :- Cl! digger vermont wrote: On the alsa mailing list I've asked if the reason for no record

Re: dma_sound problems on 12" pbook

2003-08-23 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Sat, 2003-08-23 at 13:52, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > On Sat, 23 Aug 2003, Thomas Otto wrote: > > >>When the old process is still arround try finding and killing it via > > >>'fuser /dev/dsp' > > > > > > No, that's not the problem. I double checked that, e.g.: > > > ~$ fuser /dev/dsp > > > ~$ c

Re: dma_sound problems on 12" pbook

2003-08-23 Thread Lee Braiden
On Saturday 23 Aug 2003 1:25 am, J. Javier Maestro wrote: > On Aug Sat 23 2003 01:58, Thomas Otto wrote: > > That is expected since dmasound doesn't support recording. You'll have > > to wait for 2.6 with alsa - see some older threat here. > > You mean the sound input on Powerbooks G4 / iBooks will

Can't access modem with kppp

2003-08-23 Thread Gerald Frick
I installed Woody on a summer 2000 imac about two months ago. Since then I have been trying to get kppp to work. Pon and ppp work fine. I am now running a mixed testing/unstable system with kde3. (Had the same trouble with kde2) dAs far aas I can tell kapp is configured the same as ppp. When

Re: 2.4.21-ben2 crashing on compilation

2003-08-23 Thread J. Javier Maestro
On Aug Sat 23 2003 13:57, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > On Sat, 23 Aug 2003, J. Javier Maestro wrote: > > I just rsync the 2.4.21-ben2 and, when compiling, two things happen: > > > > If I activate the: > > > > CONFIG_FB_CONTROL > > CONFIG_FB_PLATINUM > > CONFIG_FB_VALKYRIE > > > > the compilation

Re: dma_sound problems on 12" pbook

2003-08-23 Thread Pander
Thomas Otto wrote: When the old process is still arround try finding and killing it via 'fuser /dev/dsp' Same thing here, sound worked oke until I updated my kernel a few weeks ago. I'm using GNOME (sometimes KDE) and have no sound server running. Now short sounds are played OK but when XM

Re: new Apple symbols map (exposes kernel buglets?)

2003-08-23 Thread Frank Murphy
> Speaking of bugs, fn+command generates the same keycode as the eject key > in X here, but not in console (showkey shows several keycodes for the > eject key) - maybe related to the keypad equal bug you fixed recently? Actually, what does fn+command/logo say for you with showkey (-k & -s)? It s

Re: 2.4.21-ben2 crashing on compilation

2003-08-23 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
On Sat, 23 Aug 2003, J. Javier Maestro wrote: > I just rsync the 2.4.21-ben2 and, when compiling, two things happen: > > If I activate the: > > CONFIG_FB_CONTROL > CONFIG_FB_PLATINUM > CONFIG_FB_VALKYRIE > > the compilation crashes with: > > ld -T arch/ppc/vmlinux.lds -Ttext 0xc000 -Bstatic

Re: dma_sound problems on 12" pbook

2003-08-23 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
On Sat, 23 Aug 2003, Thomas Otto wrote: > >>When the old process is still arround try finding and killing it via > >>'fuser /dev/dsp' > > > > No, that's not the problem. I double checked that, e.g.: > > ~$ fuser /dev/dsp > > ~$ cat /dev/dsp > > cat: /dev/dsp: No such device or address > > That is

Re: new Apple symbols map (exposes kernel buglets?)

2003-08-23 Thread Frank Murphy
On Saturday 23 August 2003 1:34, Michel Dänzer wrote: > On Fri, 2003-08-22 at 09:55, Frank Murphy wrote: > > This should be interesting to anyone with an Apple laptop with the > > mimized keyboard . It's also mildly interesting to anyone > > with an Apple desktop keyboard (though it only enables