Re: G4 netbooting with two DHCP servers.

2001-10-24 Thread pjordan
> > and enet:0,bootme with default-gateway-ip=my.192.dhcp.server > > What a strange syntax... what does the "bootme" do? For that > matter, what does the "0" do? Okie.. it is kind of a complicated story, but the point is that your dhcp servers network interface must be on the same subnet as you

Trouble copying a large number of files to last ext2 partition

2001-10-24 Thread Laurent de Segur
Hi, I run into this bizarre problem trying to copy a large amount of files to the last partition on my disk. The disk is 10GB and the last partition occupies the last 1GB of the disk (minus a few extra spare sectors.) I did an fschk on the partition and no problem is reported. I've got a compres

Re: G3's, G4's, Altivec, DVD's, iBooks, and TiBooks

2001-10-24 Thread Henrik Edlund
On Wed, 24 Oct 2001, Andrew Sharp wrote: AS> Sounds like you are talking about a lot of choices. Choices are AS> good. In this case, though, we were talking about laptops. We AS> could've gotten laptops from ASUS, for example, w/o the penalty, AS> but those lacked features the lusers wanted

Re: Bug#116780: util-linux: hwclock shouldn't be run

2001-10-24 Thread Ethan Benson
On Wed, Oct 24, 2001 at 11:58:44PM +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote: > On Wed, 2001-10-24 at 09:45, Ethan Benson wrote: > > > you generally have to manually upgrade kernel packages > > Virtual packages like kernel-image-apus might be a good idea? manual upgrade of kernels is intentional, it was decide

Re: G3's, G4's, Altivec, DVD's, iBooks, and TiBooks

2001-10-24 Thread Andrew Sharp
Henrik Edlund wrote: > > On Wed, 24 Oct 2001, Andrew Sharp wrote: > > AS> Actually, I don't get the joke, but I'm dense like that sometimes. > AS> However, I will relate an unrelated story. I was representing a > AS> company that spent large amounts of money with the best known PC > AS> supplier

Re: Bug#116780: util-linux: hwclock shouldn't be run

2001-10-24 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Wed, 2001-10-24 at 09:45, Ethan Benson wrote: > you generally have to manually upgrade kernel packages Virtual packages like kernel-image-apus might be a good idea? -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)/ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer XFree86 and DRI project member / CS student, Fr

Re: G3's, G4's, Altivec, DVD's, iBooks, and TiBooks

2001-10-24 Thread Matt Brubeck
>> Well, I would like to hear such a success report from at least one other >> other person first. Preferably someone who isn't obviously speaking >> on behalf of "mac.com", who probably would have a conflict-of-interest >> in telling me to buy, say, a Dell laptop. ;-) > > @mac.com doesn't imply

Kernel compiling problems...

2001-10-24 Thread Debian User Jean-Baptiste Note
Am i the only one to get those kind of messages whenever i try to compile something kernel-related ? tested with 2.4.10 and 2.4.12, stock kernel and benh patched, happens too at some other point in compilation when doing a simple make module_image ... (ok, i know that's not the debian way, just di

Re: G3's, G4's, Altivec, DVD's, iBooks, and TiBooks

2001-10-24 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Tue, 2001-10-23 at 20:57, Branden Robinson wrote: > On Tue, Oct 23, 2001 at 08:04:54PM +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote: > > On Tue, 2001-10-23 at 17:32, Laurent de Segur wrote: > > > I just got a new iBook 2001 600MHz+COMBO-DVD/CDRW+256MB. It plays DVDs > > > both > > > under macos9 and running debi

Re: G3's, G4's, Altivec, DVD's, iBooks, and TiBooks

2001-10-24 Thread Henrik Edlund
On Wed, 24 Oct 2001, Andrew Sharp wrote: AS> Actually, I don't get the joke, but I'm dense like that sometimes. AS> However, I will relate an unrelated story. I was representing a AS> company that spent large amounts of money with the best known PC AS> supplier in this country. Every computer wa

Re: G3's, G4's, Altivec, DVD's, iBooks, and TiBooks

2001-10-24 Thread Benjamin Herrenschmidt
> A PII/266 with a Rage128(not pro) can sustain 20fps on DVDs under Linux. >There is no good reason a G3/366 can't do the same. And a 500 or 600 should >be able to go all the way. That is just using the hardware colorspace, not >even using iDCT or motion comp. > I have my doubts that Apple is

Re: G3's, G4's, Altivec, DVD's, iBooks, and TiBooks

2001-10-24 Thread Derrik Pates
On Tue, 23 Oct 2001, Ethan Benson wrote: > and 99.9% of all x86 computers *come* with Windows, which you paid > for, so why should be we bother with anything at all? Amen. Preach it, brotha! Give me Linux everywhere! Derrik Pates | Sysadmin, Douglas School |#linuxOS on EFnet [EMAIL

Re: G3's, G4's, Altivec, DVD's, iBooks, and TiBooks

2001-10-24 Thread Josh Huber
Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > It doesn't reduce bandwidth, it *conserves* bandwidth. of course. I meant to say "reduces bandwidth usage". > Consider the difference between "reducing" natural-growth forest and > "conserving" it. indeed. -- Josh Huber

Intro - Design, Engineering, Manufacturing, and more

2001-10-24 Thread Igoework.com Inc.
Please allow us to introduce ourselves, Igoework.com is represented by a group that includes: - Talented engineers(Mechanical and Electrical) - Software solutions(CAD, FEA) - Manufacturing vendors (Castings, Sheet Metal, Plastics, SLA, etc) - Technical placement (Direct placement of tal

Re: G3's, G4's, Altivec, DVD's, iBooks, and TiBooks

2001-10-24 Thread Sven
On Wed, Oct 24, 2001 at 09:54:52PM +0800, Kin Chung wrote: > On Wed, 24 Oct 2001, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > >On Tue, 23 Oct 2001, Andrew Sharp wrote: > > > > > takes to compile a kernel on my 200MHz 604e is long enough to > > > watch an entire movie. On TV. With commercials. > > > >Hmmm... Appl

Re: G3's, G4's, Altivec, DVD's, iBooks, and TiBooks

2001-10-24 Thread Branden Robinson
On Wed, Oct 24, 2001 at 11:08:57AM -0400, Josh Huber wrote: > Right, better for reducing bandwidth as well... What's the point of > sending the message if they're just going to procmail it to /dev/null? It doesn't reduce bandwidth, it *conserves* bandwidth. Consider the difference between "reduc

Re: Bug#116780: util-linux: hwclock shouldn't be run

2001-10-24 Thread Tom Rini
On Wed, Oct 24, 2001 at 08:57:34AM -0500, John Goerzen wrote: > [snip] Perhaps you should > implement a telepathic kernel configuration interface so that > everybody that reads the documentation knows the extra five paragraphs > that appear nowhere? Well, the defconfig which gives you the sugges

Bigger/better RTC stuffs (Was Re: Bug#116780: util-linux: hwclock shouldn't be run)

2001-10-24 Thread Tom Rini
On Tue, Oct 23, 2001 at 11:18:39PM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote: > On Tue, Oct 23, 2001 at 08:33:24PM -0700, Tom Rini wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 23, 2001 at 08:41:45PM -0600, Derrik Pates wrote: > > > > > Has anyone considered patching the kernel config scripts so that it just > > > won't even ASK about

Re: XFree86 4.1.0 r128 driver compilation

2001-10-24 Thread Michael Schmitz
> > The fbdev OTOH is completely unaccelerated. > > The fbdev? I am confused. Is this fbdev the same as the UseFBdev with the > r128 driver? Nope, it's as Michel said: the fbdev driver (X server speak) just dumps pixels to the framebuffer, totally unaccelerated. The UseFBDev option makes the X ser

Re: G3's, G4's, Altivec, DVD's, iBooks, and TiBooks

2001-10-24 Thread Josh Huber
Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, Oct 24, 2001 at 02:30:23AM -0400, Albert D. Cahalan wrote: >> BTW, procmail can filter out duplicate messages. > > So can the sender, by respecting people's god damn mail headers. Right, better for reducing bandwidth as well... What's the p

Re: Bug#116780: util-linux: hwclock shouldn't be run

2001-10-24 Thread Ethan Benson
On Wed, Oct 24, 2001 at 08:57:34AM -0500, John Goerzen wrote: > Ethan Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > you configured it wrong then. > > > > CONFIG_RTC=n > > CONFIG_PPC_RTC=y > > > > that is the correct config. yours is no doubt backwards. > > No, mine has both compiled as a module. w

Re: Bug#116780: util-linux: hwclock shouldn't be run

2001-10-24 Thread Ethan Benson
On Wed, Oct 24, 2001 at 08:54:45AM -0500, John Goerzen wrote: > Ethan Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > you should not change it. this is caused by misconfigured kernels, on > > powerpc the kernel *MUST* be compiled with CONFIG_PPC_RTC and NOT > > CONFIG_RTC, the latter must be disabled, c

Re: Bug#116780: util-linux: hwclock shouldn't be run

2001-10-24 Thread John Goerzen
Ethan Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > you configured it wrong then. > > CONFIG_RTC=n > CONFIG_PPC_RTC=y > > that is the correct config. yours is no doubt backwards. No, mine has both compiled as a module. > the clock program as Dan put it is a kludge that must die, and a > couple users m

Re: G3's, G4's, Altivec, DVD's, iBooks, and TiBooks

2001-10-24 Thread Kin Chung
On Wed, 24 Oct 2001, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: On Tue, 23 Oct 2001, Andrew Sharp wrote: > takes to compile a kernel on my 200MHz 604e is long enough to > watch an entire movie. On TV. With commercials. Hmmm... Apple system with crippled slow memory bus? My LongTrail has the same CPU, but comp

Re: Bug#116780: util-linux: hwclock shouldn't be run

2001-10-24 Thread John Goerzen
Ethan Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > you should not change it. this is caused by misconfigured kernels, on > powerpc the kernel *MUST* be compiled with CONFIG_PPC_RTC and NOT > CONFIG_RTC, the latter must be disabled, completely. And this is documented where? Why is CONFIG_RTC even offere

Re: G3's, G4's, Altivec, DVD's, iBooks, and TiBooks

2001-10-24 Thread Branden Robinson
On Wed, Oct 24, 2001 at 02:30:23AM -0400, Albert D. Cahalan wrote: > BTW, procmail can filter out duplicate messages. So can the sender, by respecting people's god damn mail headers. -- G. Branden Robinson|Somewhere, there is a .sig so funny Debian GNU/Linux

[ANN] yaboot-1.3.5pre1 Please test

2001-10-24 Thread Ethan Benson
This version fixes some problems with large disks and partitions which use XFS or Reiserfs filesystems. Yaboot also now fully supports ext3, even when the filesystem has not been unmounted cleanly and thus requires recovery. Previously yaboot would only be able to read ext3 filesystems which we

Re: XFree86 4.1.0 r128 driver compilation

2001-10-24 Thread Michel Dänzer
"Michael D. Crawford" wrote: > I am not entirely certain that XFree86 uses framebuffer accelleration > if it is available though. Framebuffer devices don't export any acceleration interface to userland yet so there's nothing the fbdev driver could use... -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)/

Re: G3's, G4's, Altivec, DVD's, iBooks, and TiBooks

2001-10-24 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
On Wed, 24 Oct 2001, Andrew Sharp wrote: > Ethan Benson wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 23, 2001 at 10:22:53PM -0400, Colin Walters wrote: > > > Andrew Sharp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > > > Remember that these computers *come* with MacOS, which you paid for, > > > > and DVDs play fine with that. >

Re: XFree86 4.1.0 r128 driver compilation

2001-10-24 Thread Michel Dänzer
David Zhou wrote: > > > The fbdev OTOH is completely unaccelerated. > > The fbdev? I am confused. Is this fbdev the same as the UseFBdev with > the r128 driver? No, I meant to write the fbdev driver. Sorry for the confusion. > Is dri still supported under fbdev or usefbdev? Only with the r128

Re: G3's, G4's, Altivec, DVD's, iBooks, and TiBooks

2001-10-24 Thread Andrew Sharp
Ethan Benson wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 23, 2001 at 10:22:53PM -0400, Colin Walters wrote: > > Andrew Sharp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > Remember that these computers *come* with MacOS, which you paid for, > > > and DVDs play fine with that. > > and 99.9% of all x86 computers *come* with Win

Re: G3's, G4's, Altivec, DVD's, iBooks, and TiBooks

2001-10-24 Thread Andrew Sharp
Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > > On Tue, 23 Oct 2001, Andrew Sharp wrote: > > David Brown wrote: > > > I can see background tasks wanting to run while doing other things in > > > the foreground. Do you ever go read something while the kernel is > > > compiling, why not watch another scene from a mov

Re: G3's, G4's, Altivec, DVD's, iBooks, and TiBooks

2001-10-24 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
On Tue, 23 Oct 2001, Andrew Sharp wrote: > David Brown wrote: > > I can see background tasks wanting to run while doing other things in > > the foreground. Do you ever go read something while the kernel is > > compiling, why not watch another scene from a movie? > > The time it takes to compile a

Re: Bug#116780: util-linux: hwclock shouldn't be run

2001-10-24 Thread Ethan Benson
On Wed, Oct 24, 2001 at 06:19:09AM +0200, Robert Bar wrote: > At 13:16 Uhr -0400 23.10.2001, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: > > (...) > > John, what kernel/machine do you have hwclock causing a hang? I'm not > > sure off the top of my head what the status is in 2.2, but 2.4 has a > > "proper" /dev/r

Re: G3's, G4's, Altivec, DVD's, iBooks, and TiBooks

2001-10-24 Thread Ethan Benson
On Tue, Oct 23, 2001 at 10:22:53PM -0400, Colin Walters wrote: > Andrew Sharp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Remember that these computers *come* with MacOS, which you paid for, > > and DVDs play fine with that. and 99.9% of all x86 computers *come* with Windows, which you paid for, so why sho

Re: Bug#116780: util-linux: hwclock shouldn't be run

2001-10-24 Thread Ethan Benson
On Tue, Oct 23, 2001 at 08:33:24PM -0700, Tom Rini wrote: > On Tue, Oct 23, 2001 at 08:41:45PM -0600, Derrik Pates wrote: > > > Has anyone considered patching the kernel config scripts so that it just > > won't even ASK about the "Enhanced Real-time Clock", since this is 100% > > _wrong_ for Power

Re: G3's, G4's, Altivec, DVD's, iBooks, and TiBooks

2001-10-24 Thread Albert D. Cahalan
G. Branden Robinson writes: > Are there people actively working on this? The mood I was getting was > that G3's weren't work the trouble. I myself don't have much in the way > of PowerPC assembly brains, or video processing mojo. Some basic tips: Sketch out data flow on a piece of paper. This