On Wed, 24 Oct 2001, Andrew Sharp wrote: > Ethan Benson wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 23, 2001 at 10:22:53PM -0400, Colin Walters wrote: > > > Andrew Sharp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > > > Remember that these computers *come* with MacOS, which you paid for, > > > > and DVDs play fine with that. > > > > and 99.9% of all x86 computers *come* with Windows, which you paid > > for, so why should be we bother with anything at all? </sarcasm> > > Actually, I don't get the joke, but I'm dense like that sometimes. > However, I will relate an unrelated story. I was representing a > company that spent large amounts of money with the best known PC > supplier in this country. Every computer was immediately wiped of > windows upon delivery and Linux installed. In a meeting with the > manufacturer, I broached the unthinkable: I asked them to sell us > computers with no operating system installed on the hard drives. I > explained our situation to them and the answer was, sure, they could > do that, if we signed a letter of intent for $50k/quarter of > business (which we were already doing), and then they would do it > for an additional $50/machine. I said, well, no, I wanted > $150/machine LESS, because we were no longer buying the Windows > license, and Dell^H^H^H^H unnamed manufacturer would no longer have > to go to the expense of installing the software. They treated this > concept as a joke. I responded appropriately. After, the marketing > veep said, 'Dude, you really reamed him. Was that necessary?' I > said 'we still have choices.'
My experiences with the same unnamed manufacturer: http://home.tvd.be/cr26864/DELL_and_MS.html Now they stopped selling workstations with Linux (which were charged higher than the same machine with the more expensive OS), they can no longer use `but you can buy them _with_ Linux preinstalled' as an excuse... Not that it matters, though. Gr{oetje,eeting}s, Geert -- Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that. -- Linus Torvalds