Re: OT: Darwin

2001-09-15 Thread Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra
Ethan Benson wrote: > On Tue, Sep 11, 2001 at 11:42:20PM -0300, Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra wrote: > >>Yes you can, it's not free but it is open source. Anyone can read the code, as >>someone pointed already even the URL. > > no you must agree to give up your freedom by agre

Re: XFree86 update question

2001-09-15 Thread Adam C Powell IV
Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: On Fri, Sep 14, 2001 at 03:02:09PM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote: On Fri, Sep 14, 2001 at 01:34:25PM -0400, Adam C Powell IV wrote: Here's a possible way out: enable ADB keycodes in the new kernel, so the keycodes are selectable via the /proc file. Then put an entry in

Re: XFree86 update question

2001-09-15 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
On Sat, Sep 15, 2001 at 05:38:59PM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote: > On Sat, Sep 15, 2001 at 09:17:11PM -0400, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: > > > > So Tom's gotten ahead of me on merges. It's still generally true. It > > not for 2.2 its not, and hasn't been for a very long time, since > 2.2.17 in actual

Re: XFree86 update question

2001-09-15 Thread Ethan Benson
On Sat, Sep 15, 2001 at 09:17:11PM -0400, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: > > So Tom's gotten ahead of me on merges. It's still generally true. It not for 2.2 its not, and hasn't been for a very long time, since 2.2.17 in actuality. 2.4.10pre6 or so is said to be nearly complete in the powerpc merge

Re: XFree86 update question

2001-09-15 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
On Sat, Sep 15, 2001 at 03:28:37PM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote: > On Sat, Sep 15, 2001 at 03:44:56PM -0400, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: > > > You're not thinking. Pristine source here means -WITH THE DEBIAN KERNEL > > PATCH APPLIED-. Or from BitKeeper directly. If I do this, it will go > > in to Bit

Re: XFree86 update question

2001-09-15 Thread Ethan Benson
On Sat, Sep 15, 2001 at 03:44:56PM -0400, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: > You're not thinking. Pristine source here means -WITH THE DEBIAN KERNEL > PATCH APPLIED-. Or from BitKeeper directly. If I do this, it will go > in to BitKeeper. If you try to use kernel.org kernels, you're shit out > of luck

Re: vi problems, linux keycodes and yaboot questions

2001-09-15 Thread Ethan Benson
On Sat, Sep 15, 2001 at 02:23:09PM -0600, Derrik Pates wrote: > On Sat, 15 Sep 2001, Michael Schmitz wrote: > > > That'll bring you back to default booting MacOS if a) you keep it > > installed and b) your boot-device variable ever gets reset (a hard kernel > > crash often does that for me). OF se

Re: vi problems, linux keycodes and yaboot questions

2001-09-15 Thread Ethan Benson
On Sat, Sep 15, 2001 at 12:50:28PM -0600, Derrik Pates wrote: > > The partition's location doesn't matter. Remember, you don't have to deal yes it does. OF won't boot it by default from default settings if its not first. -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ pgpQhk6aRFkiU.pgp De

Re: vi problems, linux keycodes and yaboot questions

2001-09-15 Thread Ethan Benson
On Sat, Sep 15, 2001 at 08:01:07PM +0200, Roland Wegmann wrote: > /dev/hda1 Apple_partition_map Apple > /dev/hda2 Apple_Driver43 Macintosh > /dev/hda3 Apple_Driver43 Macintosh > /dev/hda4 Apple_Driver_ATA Macintosh > /dev/hda5 Apple_Driver_ATA Macintosh > /dev/hda6 Apple_FWDri

Re: vi problems, linux keycodes and yaboot questions

2001-09-15 Thread Derrik Pates
On Sat, 15 Sep 2001, Michael Schmitz wrote: > That'll bring you back to default booting MacOS if a) you keep it > installed and b) your boot-device variable ever gets reset (a hard kernel > crash often does that for me). OF seems to default to the first 'blessed' > filesystem it can find, that's w

Re: OT: Portability (Re: tuxracer...2)

2001-09-15 Thread Albert D. Cahalan
Michel =?iso-8859- writes: > "Albert D. Cahalan" wrote: >> Michel =?iso-8859- writes: >>> Jens Schmalzing wrote: Michel D\344nzer writes: > Which one would that be? BenH told me the offset text is caused > by the dreaded (un)signed char issue. Precisely that. And therefore,

Re: uname blues

2001-09-15 Thread Laurent de Segur
> From: Matt Brubeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > The issue of 'uname -pm' is separate, and I agree with you there. Matt- You are right. These are two separate issues. - Regarding kernel -powermac appened in pre-compiled kernel images: OK. I think I got it. I point my includes to the header files I

Re: vi problems, linux keycodes and yaboot questions

2001-09-15 Thread Michael Schmitz
> The partition's location doesn't matter. Remember, you don't have to deal > with the broken BIOS that x86's have, and all the ass-backwards > limitations of real mode, so it can be at the beginning or the end (on an > iBook I've been using, the Apple_Bootstrap partition is the last one on > the d

Re: uname -p

2001-09-15 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
On Fri, Sep 14, 2001 at 10:30:38PM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote: > On Fri, Sep 14, 2001 at 10:16:41PM -0700, Laurent de Segur wrote: > > > > I wrote in a previous email to express my surprise about getting a > > '-powerpc' extension at the end of the version returned by the command > > -pmac perhaps

Re: XFree86 update question

2001-09-15 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
On Fri, Sep 14, 2001 at 11:20:16PM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote: > > > Would it be worthwhile to make ADB keycodes be available, and not > > default? Is there ANY reason not to do this? > > yes there is a good reason NOT to do this. people should be able to > use the debian kernel config as a re

Re: vi problems, linux keycodes and yaboot questions

2001-09-15 Thread Derrik Pates
On Sat, 15 Sep 2001, Roland Wegmann wrote: > Now I can't use vi anymore. But I need it to modify "yaboot.conf" etc. When > I type for example "vi sources.list" I got the message "vi: wrapper couldn't > execute /usr/bin/vi nor /bin/elvis-tiny". What's wrong with vi? Do you have nvi installed? If s

Re: vi problems, linux keycodes and yaboot questions

2001-09-15 Thread Michel Dänzer
Roland Wegmann wrote: > Secondly, I want to change my keyboard layout from US to Swiss german (or at > least German). On this maillist I heard a lot about linux keycodes. After my > difficulties with "console common" I may ask you if linux keycodes are > another way to adapt the keyboard? Are ther

vi problems, linux keycodes and yaboot questions

2001-09-15 Thread Roland Wegmann
Hi all, I have dist-upgraded to woody a second time, because the first time was a failure (I used "dpkg-reconfigure console-common" to change the keyboard layout. This way I got an unusable keyboard). This time I re-partitioned the IDE drive and then reinstalled the base system of potato 2.2r3

Re: OT: Darwin

2001-09-15 Thread Mike Fedyk
On Sat, Sep 15, 2001 at 03:44:42AM -0400, Albert D. Cahalan wrote: > David N. Welton writes: > > "Berg, Bj?rn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >> NetBSD has also a not so free sourcecode (I see it as package not > >> only the Kernel). Some parts are not published under GPL (like > >> Linux) but un

Re: Problems with one iMac

2001-09-15 Thread Chris Tillman
> I've problems to boot one iMac grafit G3 400, to instal debian, with the > Debian 2.2rev3 potato cd, also with de Suse 7.1 cd.None of both run in > the iMac, but I,ve install in mi iBook both distributions without > problems, if someone can help me > Thanks fistro@ > 2.2r3 CDs will boot on a

OT: Portability (Re: tuxracer...2)

2001-09-15 Thread Michel Dänzer
"Albert D. Cahalan" wrote: > > Michel =?iso-8859- writes: > > Jens Schmalzing wrote: > >> Michel D\344nzer writes: > > >>> Which one would that be? BenH told me the offset text is caused by > >>> the dreaded (un)signed char issue. > >> > >> Precisely that. And therefore, it wasn't a big deal to

Re: XFree86 update question

2001-09-15 Thread Michel Dänzer
Adam C Powell IV wrote: > > Michel Dänzer wrote: > > >Adam C Powell IV wrote: > > > >>but it's also mouse button 2/3 for many of us, as > >>advice on how to make it so with the new input layer was posted numerous > >>times to this list. Forcing one to either not use alt, or change mouse > >>butt

Problems with one iMac

2001-09-15 Thread fistro@
I've problems to boot one iMac grafit G3 400, to instal debian, with the Debian 2.2rev3 potato cd, also with de Suse 7.1 cd.None of both run in the iMac, but I,ve install in mi iBook both distributions without problems, if someone can help me Thanks fistro@

Re: xfree 4.0.2 font problems

2001-09-15 Thread Ethan Benson
On Sat, Sep 15, 2001 at 07:19:44PM +0930, Dan Kortschak wrote: > I have installed unofficial debs for xfree 4.0.2 from Steve Hanley why? try 4.1.0-5 thats in woody. -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ pgpNo6jQLlgOh.pgp Description: PGP signature

xfree 4.0.2 font problems

2001-09-15 Thread Dan Kortschak
I have installed unofficial debs for xfree 4.0.2 from Steve Hanley (thanks). I have one problem though (I didn't see this with LinuxPPC's X 4.0.0 when I had that running ages ago), maybe someone can help: most fonts are rendered backwards (this is sort of difficult to describe, but the words are w

Re: OT: Darwin

2001-09-15 Thread David N. Welton
"Albert D. Cahalan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> NetBSD has also a not so free sourcecode (I see it as package not > >> only the Kernel). Some parts are not published under GPL (like > >> Linux) but under the BSD License which restricts developers and > >> users. > > That's not correct. The

Re: HFS Plus on Linux ?

2001-09-15 Thread Albert D. Cahalan
Branden Robinson writes: > Yeah, and we all owe you a debt of thanks for that beautiful > ps manpage *you* wrote. You try fighting with that *roff crap. I've seen two separate attempts to "fix" the man page. Both of them were not only ugly, but misleading as well. Spaces and line breaks ended up

Re: OT: Darwin

2001-09-15 Thread Albert D. Cahalan
Leandro=?ISO-8859- writes: > Apple's license on Darwin isn't free, and the goodies that > compensate for Darwin's problems aren't even available -- > they're part of Mac OS X only. Hmmm. On many platforms, Linux supports running executables from a different OS. For example: x86 Xenix, Open

Re: OT: Darwin

2001-09-15 Thread Albert D. Cahalan
David N. Welton writes: > "Berg, Björn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> NetBSD has also a not so free sourcecode (I see it as package not >> only the Kernel). Some parts are not published under GPL (like >> Linux) but under the BSD License which restricts developers and >> users. > > That's not cor

Re: Sharing a Cable Modem

2001-09-15 Thread Albert D. Cahalan
=?iso-8859-1?q?Ric writes: > I want to use my machine to share a cable modem. Gee, so many ways to do this... I'll give you the Linux 2.4.xx way. > eth0 goes to a hub and is all currently set up; > I'm running telent, FTP, Apache etc. so that I > don't need to attach a monitor to the machine. >

Re: XFree86 update question

2001-09-15 Thread Ethan Benson
> Would it be worthwhile to make ADB keycodes be available, and not > default? Is there ANY reason not to do this? yes there is a good reason NOT to do this. people should be able to use the debian kernel config as a reference when compiling thier own kernel from pristine sources, if debian g

Re: tuxracer...2

2001-09-15 Thread Albert D. Cahalan
Michel =?iso-8859- writes: > Jens Schmalzing wrote: >> Michel D\344nzer writes: >>> Which one would that be? BenH told me the offset text is caused by >>> the dreaded (un)signed char issue. >> >> Precisely that. And therefore, it wasn't a big deal to fix. But >> since I made a package for my per

Re: uname -p

2001-09-15 Thread Matt Brubeck
On Fri, 14 Sep 2001, Laurent de Segur wrote: > IMHO, uname is not correctly implemented under Linux (version-wise for > ports and machine/processor-wise in general.) Again, the EXTRAVERSION=powerpc in the kernel-image-* packages has nothing to do with uname implementation or Linux platform ports.

Re: uname -p

2001-09-15 Thread Ethan Benson
On Fri, Sep 14, 2001 at 10:16:41PM -0700, Laurent de Segur wrote: > > I wrote in a previous email to express my surprise about getting a > '-powerpc' extension at the end of the version returned by the command -pmac perhaps? > 'uname -r' with a pre-compiled kernel image, which I think should n

Re: uname -p

2001-09-15 Thread Laurent de Segur
Michel, Beside Ethan's answer and opinion given to your question (which I support totally since I have lots of legacy makefile from SunOS myself), I'll just describe what 'info uname' under Linux will return: '-m' '--machine' Print the machine (hardware) type. which should probably be someth